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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6651
    JimInMD
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    Yes, Ann Coulter likes the Dead. She and Tucker Carlson probably swoosh and twirled together at shows. I'm not convinced they drank the kool aid (or perhaps they had a few drops too many). You've probably heard of the Wharf Rats, meet the Fox Rats..
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    Isn't Ann Coulter a Deadhead? Thought she mentioned that years ago...
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    floridabobaloo: I get what your saying and I am sure you are a good neighbor. The news has become a Left-Right Rant-Fest. When you stop for a moment on Fox or MSNBC you know within seconds which channel it is. Pure Partisan-Rant Volume 2. Oddly enough, however, with vaccines in the news, if you were to turn your back to the television and put on either Fox MSNBC or whatever channel, well, you would not know which channel it is. Interesting. Scary too. I guess that tells you who rules over you: Big Pharma and their advertising dollars.
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    I did not catch the reported story. What makes me laugh is that the situation amused folks. There are lots of people branded many different ways that like this band.It's really funny to me. When I was in my 20's, I was an artist type liberal. I think it's natural as you age to have things morph in your perception and hence your reality. Now at 55 I am more conservative, but again I think that's to be understood. At the same time, from the late 60's til today, I've witnessed great change in the platforms of our 2 party system. So now blue seems red and red seems blue etc. At the development of networks designed to attract you to their programming, I knew that was a game changer. When I grew up, the news was reported, not made up by the networks. The news was reporting on events without subjective rant. So that's another huge change. At the end of the day, Grateful Dead music appeals to people, and a wide range of people too. Much more in commen than divides. Please don't forget we are all in this together right? If your brother, neighbor, or even a stranger needed your help, would you refuse them because of the perceived differences, or would you assist them because of our common humanity? Just my take is all friends. But if you're in Florida with a flat tire, and a big redneck looking dude with PITB screaming out of his pickup offers help, it could be me!
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    Looking back at my shows, they are split almost exactly 50-50. I saw Brent one time more then I saw Keith. (I missed Pigpen by 3 weeks, unfortunately for me and for him!) I loved Keith & Donna very much. This is where I got on the bus and I have always felt that when you got on has a lot to do with your feelings. After all, once you attended a show would you have continued to go if you were not happy with what you saw? Once Brent came on board I was very happy with the new energy & vitality he brought to the band. After all, as much as I loved Keith, it would be hard to argue that he was not slipping near the end, for a variety of reasons. He was always a very laid back dude and was never assertive. After all, it was Donna who told Jerry that Keith was going to be the Dead's new keyboard player! Keith put his head down on the table and did not even speak to Jerry until his audition a few days later for Jerry & Billy. They knew immediately he was THE guy. It was sad to see how he devolved, but when he & Donna left the band, it was by mutual agreement of all the band members. It was not a dismissal, it was an agreement. Donna now says that it was for the best of all involved. As others have pointed out here, look at any video of the Brent years and you will see the connection between him & Jerry. They were locked in and Brent really did bring out the best of what Jerry had to offer on any given night. I think the death of Brent really affected Jerry in a very negative way. Not to diss Vince, but he was not any kind of Brent! I love all 30 years of the Dead, warts and all. What other band can show you so many different faces? They are all good and on any given day I will reach for a release from any year and will find some really great music to brighten my day. Rock on
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    Turn On Your Lovelight - 4.5.71 Pigpen and Bobby let it shine
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    I found this discussion very interesting and felt compelled to give my 2 cents. One of the things I love about our community is that there are as many different opinions as they are types of deadheads. That's what makes these debates so great. With that said, I admit to being very surprised at any discussion re: Brent vs. Keith. The subject 70's vs. 80's is a different discussion to me since they were very different stages in their careers. Honestly I love each era for it's own uniqueness and what their personalities and ages brought to it at that point in time. I love Keith and the 70's shows. His piano playing throughout the years into 76/77 most times was nothing short of magical. I did, however, always want him to take a more active role in his lead playing instead of just adding to what Jer and the rest were doing. That never happened and Keith never forced the issue. Also, while the piano was his thing, his playing on other keys never came into its own. As Keith slipped away, Brent was fresh air. I thought right from the start his vocals were clean and on the mark and his playing was very complimentary given the position he was in of catching up to what the band had been doing for 14years at that point. As the years went on both got better, but that is the story of any new member in a band. It takes time to work in. I disagree with the assessment of cheesy keys sounds also. Yes several were cheesey (the sound on Alabama was the one that always bothered me most) but that was also a sign of the times. Keys were making huge strides but also had a lot of growing pains in the 80's. Brent was a product of his time. As the 80's went on he refined his sounds and obviously the B3 and his Rhodes/piano sounds became critical (again to me) components of the music. I believe the SBD's in the 80's more than any other decade show what a technically proficient, dedicated, and soulful keyboard player the dead had. Most importantly, Brent was a musician (singer and player) who was right in the pocket(save for a few bad shows in the later years that I will always forgive when taking into account his complete body of work). He challenged the band and especially Jerry (as someone pointed out the looks that those two shared sometimes on stage gave me huge smiles). Many many of those jams were completely driven by Brent and his raspy high harmonies (especially with Jerry) would always give me chills. Yes there were several songs that Donna sounded sweet on (Looks Like Rain, They Love Each Other, Row Jimmy) but there's also a difference how woman's backing vocals sound vs. a man's. In some ways you can't compare. Let's not forget also that Brent did both and as a keys player and singer I know that many times it is very difficult to do both well and at the same time. He rarely missed a beat. In the end it was all great and thank god there were several people along the way who had the foresight to record all these shows so that we would have a chance to look back and debate. Peace to all!
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    lmao so, if it's on Fox, it's ok? something wrong with that way of thinking, but one mans' pain is another man's pleasure? Fox had something good to say about the dead? no way, must be the money being made that attracted them to the topic, sure wasn't the lifestyle or the music.
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    That was hilarious! I think you might be slowly turning him on to the Dead. These things take time in some cases. But he is through the looking glass now and has actually purchased some GD music. The studio versions are a gateway drug for a lot of people into a much larger world of music. Before they know it they start wondering what Estimated Prophet or Scarlet Begonias sounded like in concert and then BAM! the Dead have you and once that happens you are on the bus for life. Ha!
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    ...but can he pass the acid test....
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 15:18

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A much improved sound over previous soundboard sources that I have heard over the years!One HOT Stranger!
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 16:13

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I'm ordained thru the Universal Life Church,so if ya can't get to the Pope just drop me a line! ;) And Happy Birthday to Hundred Year Hall! 20 years today!

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 19:12

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Before San Fran. Came into full bloom Greenwich Village was the scene. This doc was brilliant in its history and showing the folk music bloom that lead to the 60 s proper. I loved this movie and will revisit it I think a time or two. Amazing footage of a really important musical era. As a folkie today, I love when homage is paid like this.If you get a chance, view it. Great film EDIT. I did chuckle because not one mention was made of The Kingston Trio! Yeah I know they where the "establishment" folkies, but they sold a boatload of records.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 17:38

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He really built something nice out there. Thanks for the good read.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 18:29

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God that was Fantastic! My wife was laughing cause I knew nealy all the players and songs! Do you remember how great this stuff was on an AM radio going down the street in summer in like a GTO?We're so lucky to have heard this when it was fresh. In today's music world it's a completely different game. Sight read a Chart? Hahaha how many can still do that? Loving these features on Flix. Ginger Baker and I are set for morning coffee........
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Submitted by kevjones on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 22:53

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Hey everyone. Totally going out on limb here, but check out the 'I Fought The Law' from 1993 show. It's totally rippin'. Can't wait for this set!!!
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 23:25

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An excellent documentary, and if you don't watch it, GINGER WILL BEAT YOU!
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sat, 09/26/2015 - 23:43

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I've watched them all. Muscle Shoals was definitely a favorite. The Other One was good. The Ginger Baker one was interesting, mostly to learn more about him. I do still need to watch the Keith Richards doc. I am a whore for Rockumentaries.
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 00:44

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Can anyone help ?My order status says October 31 - here we read Mid-October ? So what will happen ? Anyone knows ? BTW : I love the 91 show - can?t resist to listen to the downloads , well the needle shoves into the brain peace
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 04:16

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Currently, if you order the USB edition, "add to cart" on that page, the next page will have a description of the item in the 1st left column read: USB product estimated to ship between Oct 9 - Oct 31, 2015 applied Credit Card Payment Only (in red lettering). There is a 2nd column, "action", a 3rd with quantity and a 4th column with "Availability" that reads: Ships on Oct-31-2015. I don't really know, but I await the shipping notice email anytime after October 9th. I would be very happy if the shipping notice email would appear in my my mailbox on October 9th and the physical box set would arrive at my house in the 3rd week of October.
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:07

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I am far from the PTB, but I believe Oct. 31 is a "place-holder", or worst-case-scenario, meant to be the end of the line. Computers don't like things like "mid-October" or "October 15th-ish". 10-31 fits in computer world. I think (read: hope!) we'll get our stuff before Halloween...
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:08

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That's all, folks!
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:14

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thanx for your thouhts , so we all just sit and wait....sometimes we all just sit.... don`t know why but it`s a unique feeling , like waiting for christmas.....hey , Santa , don`t forget me over here
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Submitted by owlshead on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:21

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thanks for the 9/25/91 and 9/26/91 suggestion - next to never go beyond 89/90 happy Sunday, Pope is in philly, out to stack some firewood and hoping the Birds don't start the season 0-3 -- though, sure there are a number of NFL fans that would be ok with that ;)
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:26

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As Tom Petty said, "The waiting is the hardest part!"
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:28

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Double-post? Yeah...
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 05:55

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Guys, I have to say - Dave Lemieux absolutely got it right when he said the '90 - '95 shows weren't just "good shows for those years" but great shows overall. I have not been streaming anything except the 80s and 90s, and I am totally impressed with these Vince shows. If someone never heard the Dead before, and these were their first listen, I don't think they'd have any complaints. Vince is very nicely mixed, better than Brent has been since mid-80s (too loud from '87 - '90), and his vocals blend in with the rest of the band so smoothly; Jerry is playing well and singing well enough (I have to give him some leeway for age - everybody's singing voice ages, except maybe Ace Frehley - for some mysterious reason he sounds just like he did in 1978 - probably because he comes from Outer Space); Bobby is solid as ever and I actually have an easier time hearing him in the mix than in a lot of the '70s shows; and Bill and Mickey sound just fine (I prefer the acoustics of their drum sounds from the '70s, but hey, equipment and amplification has changed). I would say the hi-lights are Vince and Jerry. Sooo nice to hear Jerry play well in any year or band, and Vince sounds well integrated in the band - his chops are good, his timing is good, and his discretion is excellent (i.e. when to play and when NOT to play). Highly recommend these shows as a starting point in your 30 Trips endeavor.
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Submitted by uv1 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 06:17

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I love reading so many comments praising the 90's shows. Especially from those who admittedly were skeptical of 90's Grateful Dead. As someone who only started listening to the Dead in late 1990 (after Brent had passed), and only saw handful of shows in 1991 and 1993, this is the Dead as I first witnessed them. And yes, they were still good. There was definitely some magic still left in them as a band. For what it's worth, I'm also a fan of the Road Trips series, and the Cal Expo '93 set (including the bonus disc) is one that gets a lot of play from me. A LOT! I think part of what makes it work so much is that the rest of the band had to step up a little to fill in the gaps left by Jerry's decline. Sure, the best shows were still the one's where Jerry was playing his best, but then wasn't that the case in all eras? I also think that the number of folks coming out and saying, "Hey, I really like this show from '95, and I usually don't listen to '90s Dead" is one of the reasons Dave wanted to put out this career-spanning, 30-years box set It sort of puts their music from all era's in context. By making the set available as "all-or-none," Dave and the Big Box also asks some of us to step outside our comfort zone and explore eras of the bands playing that we might otherwise avoid. On that note, I'd say they've succeeded already! Well done, Dave!
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Submitted by Mr. Jack Straw on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 06:26

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Given that '85 is probably my favorite 80s year after '89 (maybe '81), I was somewhat surprised that 6/24 is my least favorite show in the box. I can't help but hope that the reason they didn't select one of the next few shows is that we're going to get a mini-set of 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1 in the future. edit- ok, I probably like the '82 show the least, but that's more to do with the SQ than the actual show. edit2- I was also wondering about 5/16/81. It's a hot show, no doubt, but the fact that they used an audience patch for such a significant portion of the show (easily the largest patch they've used to date), cannot bode well for other potential releases from this year. There's other candidates from May or Fall that could have challenged 5/16 had they been complete. I'm guessing there are issues with other shows too.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 06:34

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Ever notice Jerry doesn't pluck away on the main Samson theme in '76 versions? He some fills and soloing while everyone else carries the melody. Not jazzed about these versions, prefer '77 and forward.
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Submitted by zxtttxz on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 07:15

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Thanks uv1! I'm the same as you - first show was October '90. I read all the comments on here and I start to wonder sometimes..."Gosh, didn't I have a good time at those shows I went to? Wasn't the music good?" And listening to the '95 show (the only '90's show in the box I've listened to so far) I'm reminded that yes, they were still good, fun enjoyable shows. I remember the description of Cal Expo '93 (the show I went to - May 27) in the current, at that time, "Unbroken Chain" as an "epic" show. All three of the Shoreline June '95 shows were excellent. I remember standing on the lawn and watching the people in the seated section looking like fields of wheat waving together in the wind to Ramble On Rose. Excellent! Thanks Jerry! And I'm not even going to mention the awesome Standing on the Moon at those June Shoreline shows. Thanks again Jerry!

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 07:58

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Whoa this guy is a charmer eh? Had no idea he is or was this F ed Up.I mean I knew a great deal about him, but this was an eye opener! Oh well everybody can't be a nice guy eh? Happy Sunday.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 08:37

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Saw it last year. Was also surprised how screwed up he is, but also how musically schooled he is. I knew he was a great drummer, but to hear him talk about it, there is clearly nothing unplanned when playing live. He scoffs at Moon, which says a lot about his approach to music. I don't think he appreciates Moon's talent and uniqueness. Nobody else in rock n roll is a lead drummer, and it"s almost impossible to replicate Moon, because his drumming was an extension of his explosive disposition. Few drummers' personalities are mirrored in their style to the great extent that Moon's is. It's the element that drove The Who's live sound. Everyone else was a passenger on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Listening to I Need A Miracle from the Closing of Winter land. Fantastic. Perfect. The best. And it's good too... On to Playing in the Band. Love this mix, I can hear everyone, and Phil especially sounds good. I get a chuckle when people put down Keith in '78 - he plays as well as ever on pretty much everything I've heard, including this Playing. It is true that his talents are not showcased in the later years, but I maintain that's a product of the music's style, not any personal limitations.
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Submitted by ckcoffman on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 08:52

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Wow, you guys are making my decision not to stream harder and harder! I decided just before the delay in shipping was announced to go on a GD fast, in order to drool even more heavily than usual when I got Boxilla in my mitts, but the plan got pretty hard to follow-through on when the shipping-later-than-Sept announcement came through. I've of course cheated--listened to the 9/11/73 DStar several times this week--but am generally trying to give some of the rest of the music collection some exercise so that my aural tastebuds are primed & even hungrier than usual for the GOGD. Deep into Cecil Taylor at the moment, and Los Lobos are entertaining me a good bit, too. I have to second that emotion w/r/t the kindness of '90s Dead getting some love. I was too young to experience Pig, TC (seen him since), Donna (seen her since), or Keith with the band, and I just missed catching Brent. I don't usually reach first for 1990s GD (I'm generally a 69/70 and 73/74 kind of listener), but sometimes nothing will do but Vince-era. It's all good, depending on mood and timing, and I hope we all get a few surprises out of this box. Anyway, happy anniversary of every show the GD ever played on 9/27 (here's looking at YOU Stanley Theater!). Out of curiosity: I'm planning to listen to the Box chronologically, but, with a job, a spouse, and 3 kids, I don't get enough uninterrupted headphone-time to expect that this won't take me several months (took me about 6 months to get through the E72 materials). So my crisis is that I am not sure what I'll do when DaP 16 (and 17, and maybe 18) arrives. Do I stop my Boxilla experience to groove on Dave's latest fave, or do I wait and wait until I've finished out the Box experience to listen to the next tasty treat from DL? Anyone else have a plan to accommodate this earth-shattering problem? It'll be a hard choice either way. As Oscar Wilde said, I can resist anything except temptation. I know ... it's all good, and I wish these were the biggest problems we all had everyday! FWIW, my half-year-long excursion through E72 was not hitch-free. I got to the penultimate disc of the box and found it skipped. In spite of the long time since order shipment, Dr. Rhino sent me a replacement within a week. Whatever complaints there are about TPtB on other people's parts, I have to give them some cred & mucho gratitude for coming through when I needed it! And, I don't recall who said it first, but the upcoming Dylan bootleg series release shows you how well treated we 'heads are. $600 for 18 CDs? No thanks, even for this Dylan freak. I'll go for the 6-CD version, probably, in the end, but can't help feeling cheated even there. I have everything the man's released, on vinyl and CD, but when I compare his catalogue to what we're getting from Rhino, I feel disappointed (as a BD fan) and grateful (as a GD fan). Now if only Dylan would step out on stage for some of the Dead & Co shows ....
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Submitted by mjzeee on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 09:10

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My advice to ckcoffman (and others) is to first rip the discs in the box to iTunes or your other favorite software. That's a quick way to find out whether any discs are defective. You can then listen at your leisure. I haven't yet listened to any of the streamed concerts. Recently listened to Dave's Picks 15 - wonderful stuff. Since there's a fade between discs from Rhythm Devils to Not Fade Away, I used software (in my case, Amadeus Pro) to edit the two together, so I now have a seamless performance from Estimated Prophet through to Sugar Magnolia.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 11:22

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Moonie was the best in my book. Love his approach. Unparalleled in RockGinger considers himself as Jazz. I see that and his choices are spectacular too. But himself as a person? Summer's Eve comes to mind!
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 12:05

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lol, right you are Florida. I felt a little bad for him throughout the movie; but then toward the end, his son said he blew him off, and that Ginger had already blown the millions he received from the Cream reunion shows. Talk about blowing a second chance - that's not just down-on-your-luckedness, that's bonafide Summer's Eve! I do love that late 60s tube amplification stage sound of Cream and others, especially with the Who and the Marshall Stack configuration. It's crazy to think now, how short a span all of those late '60s bands existed on stage. The scene was pretty much changed for good within 10 years.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 12:27

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Tube amps! Love um. I once owned a Mesa Boogie Mk 3 Simulclass that had the most rich warm melt your soul sound I ever heard. Loved that box. Had to be played LOUD just had to be haha.Sold it along with most of my road gear, but picked up a little Orange solid state amp, and for $239. It's a screaming lil monster. Very nice tone at any volume. The days of huge Marshalls are pretty much over. Such a pain to move them around. Plus these new Little boxes make great sound. One thing I learned that amazed me is Jimmy Page and his fav recording amp. It was a little amp as well! He miked it up perfectly. Distance is Depth! Page learned a lot from the ole 50s engineers. I read Ginger has pretty bad COPD now too. It showed with the chain smoking in the movie. Very sad story blowing through 5 million bucks and being dirt poor cause you can't withhold your compulsiveness. What's the line about a fool and his money?
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Submitted by One Man on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 13:51

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Loved the E72 Dark Star blow-by-blow, 6-tus. Now, who wants to host a web repository (blog form or whatever) for this kind of thing? I'll contribute a review of every song version officially released on CD -- including 30 Trips, eventually. All of the others are done already, they just need a loving home and the chance to interact with other reviews. PM me!
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 14:52

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...and regarding Ginger Baker. You know full well that any of us would just as quickly blow through $5 million if we got our hands on it and there was $5 million worth of previously unreleased Dead recordings to be purchased.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 15:02

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Personally, there are drummers who I like better than either of those guys. I think Michael Shrieve was possibly better than either. Phil Collins, Stuart Copeland and Levon Helm are a few more of my favorites.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 15:49

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Man Im pretty tight with the cabbage. If I had that kinda war chest I doubt seriously you'd see me blow it. But you never know.I agree Mr Copeland is a top notch skin man.
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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 16:13

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Thanks for the tip regarding 1981 new years eve,I have just finished listening,what a fantastic show. I also enjoyed finding the first set with Joan playing,shame that the quality is not soundboard standard. There is always room for another G D box set,but are there enough full shows left in the vault? So far I have only listened to the single from the 30 trips download,still hoping to avoid listening to any full shows until I get the physical CDs,me thinks the box is less than 12" square,otherwise we could have had a 12" record rather than a 7" single. Look forward to seeing the Lunar eclipse in a few hours here in the UK.
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Submitted by Oswald55 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 17:00

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Is there a verdict on how the USB version will treat the concerts vs the physical version? Obviously, USB doesn't have the CD-length limitation, so the concerts can theoretically run uninterrupted. For example, the '73 show's Jam necessitated a track re-order, and '78 splits the jam @ Drums/NFA. So I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside). Anyone know? Thanks!
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Submitted by Moses Quasar on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 18:08

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Sitting here, having some 6.9% Octoberfests and listening to 3/25/72. Great show, I love the Academy of Music run. Should have been a box set. What do u think? Ive said this before, I'll say it again: JimInMD is a stand up fuckin guy!.....and I say that with the utmost respect!.....he knows!!!!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 19:14

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....or in tonight's case, a brand new full eclipse, harvest, blood red, supermoon! Go outside, look up, and Get Some!!!....awesome....
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Submitted by Ziffle on Sun, 09/27/2015 - 20:28

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Oswald55 asked, "I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside)." I sent a similar question to customer service and David L. several weeks ago (when I ordered the USB version). I was told that the engineers delivered two completely separate masters, one for the CD, one for the USB. My question had to do with audio quality (is the USB just a FLAC of the CDs), and the helpful answer was, no, the USB is distinct. I did not ask about track sequencing; hopefully they will give us everything is the correct order, but it doesn't much matter in the end. We can resequence those files on a playing copy with no loss of sound quality. Similar can be done with the CDs, but only by resequencing and then burning to a new CD (otherwise the HDCD decoding will be lost). I mentioned somewhere else that the Spring TOO download version runs in performance order without fades, so far as I know, but not having heard the CDs, no idea if they are different.
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Submitted by Alain on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 00:22

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I am one of those who prefer to wait for the box, and so I have not listened to digital files (except China> Rider of 10/27/1990, which I love). I'm so impatient! (Excuse my English, I'm French).
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 05:12

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Nice drummer discussion, compliments of Mr. Baker, I believe. I love all those mentioned.. I am partial to the multi-limb schizophrenia of Bill Bruford as well. I recently took a youtube spin of his work and bands and was completely absorbed as about an hour disappeared from space and time.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 05:18

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Overcast and raining.. I didn't even know it was going on. Coincidentally, however, I spent my predawn hours listening to the Dark Star > Morning Dew from Dave's 13, almost a year since my first spin. Up way too early drinking some kona, great music to plan out my week. What a powerful performance.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 07:53

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Hi JiminMD here in fla. we were robbed because of the weather from seeing the eclipse. The Moon was Obscured by Clouds.............But I did Find a bunch of songs which dealt with the Moon. Sisters of the Moon by Fleetwood was a cool remembrance. Of course we were Standing on the Moon with the Dead, then Walking on the Moon with the Police, etc. There are a lot of songs dealing with the Moon! Mankind has been thinking about that glistening glob of celestial cheese a long time. Starting off the week in Winterland 73, 11-11 to be precise. From there the course is wide open. All the Best to you Kind Folk
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 06:59

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The best drummer I have ever seen live is Joe Russo......end of story.
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Submitted by matchewy on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 09:08

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I am very fond of a couple drummers mentioned in this thread, but I am really glad to see Michael Shrieve and Bill Bruford mentioned. I am a drummer, and when I was a teenager, I regularly watched live footage of Shrieve like it was porn. I was fortunate to catch King Crimson twice in '95 on the Thrak tour, and the interplay between Bruford and Pat Mastelotto was nothing short of wizardry. Bruford is a trickster, and he is not only obsessively precise, but well versed in the art of ridiculously obtuse time-signatures. Do yourself a favor and check out the Deja Vrooom DVD, most of which is on YouTube. However, with the DVD, I believe you can choose your viewing perspective. Moon is mentioned, probably my favorite drummer. It is really his energy and total chaos that hits me somewhere deep. Ginger: I actually started playing because of Ginger. I was 12 and begging for a left handed electric axe when my Dad played me "Do What You Like" from the Blind Faith LP. That was a defining moment, and I decided to play drums in that moment. I was a huge Ginger fan, and I still appreciate him. But, what appealed to my early teen brain (loud showmanship style drumming-double bass solos and what not) never lost its appeal, but my taste matured. I still dig Baker's work with Cream and Blind Faith, but hearing him (and Clapton and Bruce) on that live recording a few years ago, well, that is one of the most boring recordings I have ever heard. Other drummers who inspired me through the years, Stephen Perkins (Jane's Addiction)-I saw Jane's a couple times in my early drumming years before they broke up, and Perkins was a huge inspiration; Matt Cameron (Soundgarden and subsequently Pearl Jam)-Crazy rhythms and ghost beats, unique time signatures, excellent precision; Jaimoe and Butch Trucks (ABB)-possibly the "easiest" drum duo to watch play, just fluid and groovin', two-drummer shufflin'; Jim Keltner and Jim Gordon- just listen to "Mad Dogs and Englishmen", just about any Delaney and Bonnie LP, and Derek and the Dominoes; Tony Allen (Fela Kuti and the Afrika 70)-just sick!; and there are so many more. I always find musician comparing conversations fascinating, and how easily we start to blur the line between our preferences and individual tastes and fact with statements like "best", greatest ever", and so on. These musicians all have their own very distinct musical voices, and they are almost impossible to compare. I love these conversations and hearing who everyone loves and why.
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Mon, 09/28/2015 - 09:37

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Charlie Watts. He's never mentioned in "greatest drummer" conversations. He should be.
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