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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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June 11, 2015 - 8:07am

#6801

Oxford 88

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Cumberland County Blues...

Owl's Head- You churned two memories directly related to the Mighty Cumberland County Civic Center, Portland's music mecca. Saw many great shows, including the Heads in 83 and Hamstrung in 86. I saw the Stop Making Sense show three times within a week (Springfield, Portland, Cape Cod) and while the show had just a little variation with the set list, these are the best concerts I ever saw. Musicianship, energy, choreography (a word not often used in discussions about live Dead). This was the show to end all shows (no wonder they never toured again). The movie and soundtrack are still in heavy rotation. The Hamstrung Blues was part of a strange night at the old barn. The first set was pretty fun. We had seen the shows in Hampton and beside the Box breakout, that run was really weak. Right up front for the first set, the playing was energetic (in relative terms-I was always quite critical about the shows I saw) with Jerry providing good energy. The Hamstrung Blues split the set up with people scratching their heads, trying to figure out if they had heard it before. Second set was very run of the mill... Portland shows were always great with the Old Port rocking and laid back security inside. Would love a 9/17/82 release. I appreciate the Maine loving on 30 trips.
June 11, 2015 - 8:06am

#6802

pghas1

Joined:
August 29, 2011

Brent...

My years were 87-94 so I was and still am a huge Brent fan - thought that his high range vocals with snarl fit perfectly. In terms of his playing, he really worked tremendously well with Jerry and pushed him to new heights during that renaissance period. He knew where his spaces were and how to get in and out of them. Because of the nature of the two instruments, Garcia really needed a keyboard player he could work with and Brent was the guy. My personal opinion, touching also on the Garcia interview, is that he was both devastated and furious at Brent's death. To the point where it wasnt too long after that that he lapsed back into serious drug use and never really recovered. And man, even if you weren't crazy about Brent at the time, how could you not love him once Vince Welnick joined the band? Now that was a pick made with the "we've got 4 weeks until tour and he has a high register voice" decision, because I never felt like his style meshed with what they were doing.
June 11, 2015 - 8:03am

#6803

boblopes

Joined:
January 13, 2009

Sneakpeak & re: Talking Heads

Three of my favorite TH tunes are "No Compassion", "Warning Signs" & "Crosseyed and Painless". Got a better appreciation for Cities after I saw Phish cover it at Lemonwheel... When they added Bernie Worrell and that intensive persussion section, they definitely stepped up their game. Saw David Byrne at Avalon (Now HOB) probably 10 years ago and it was a good show... I could not resist, I created a playlist of what I had from the archive that's being released on 30 Trips. I'm listening to it in chronicle order and was pleasantly surprised by Pigpen doing "It's a man's man's man's world" channeling Janice without her dynamic range (of course). People are in for a treat!!! Almost want to stop listening so I will get totally blown away by the stuff I never heard... Come on Dave, unless you're redoing the seaside chats with less wind, release another chat!!! Or at least a sneakpeak at the box... EDIT: fixing bad grammar...
June 11, 2015 - 8:02am

#6804

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
September 10, 2009

More Brent"(and Weir)

I thought he was ok the first few years, soundwise; though his songs were definitely late 70's "light rock" However, I cannot listen to his ad-libs on Little Red Rooster, just plain vulgar and ugly. On the other hand, Weir's songs after Terrapin got really clunky both lyrically and musically. It's hard to believe the same songwriting team that wrote a piece as melodic as Weather Report Suite(not to mention the whole Ace LP), came up with Feel Like a Stranger and Picasso Moon.
June 11, 2015 - 7:50am

#6805

stoltzfus

Joined:
January 13, 2010

Brent

Keepers: just a little light, pocky, a bunch of others the one I wish had never been brought out (keep it in the family): I will take you home. Way too personal of a song. in any case Brent's awesome. a little showboaty sometimes, but still awesome. listen to 9/24/83's Uncle John's Band. Brent's keys are so freakin' beautiful.
June 11, 2015 - 7:43am

#6806

owlshead

Joined:
January 18, 2014

Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues

Anyone? Listening to "Shakedown Stream" from yesterday... doing 1986... the only year for this baby... Brent - he was my keyboard guy when I went to shows: 84-89. And I thought he was fine... Now, at 50+ -- and I can listen to so...... so.... much, that I would never have imagined back when I was a kid. So now, Keith and Donna are my faves.... But yes, Donna sometimes swallowed the mike (as an old friend use to say) and I am another one that is not a big fan of the Pig raps... oh well. But, I love the Beatles too, and I don't love everything... so my 2 cents Speaking of back in the day, any Talking Head fans on this board? I remember that a number of my Dead friends (as well as myself) where into them... in the 80s. Was watching Stop Making Sense last night on youtube... When I saw that movie in 1984, me and a couple other guys I was with were dozed, but my big take (or high-insight at the time, and it still holds) was rhythm and percussion, I was fascinated by it from the movie, and it still informs my acoustic guitar playing to this day! As well as Jer and Bobby -- Jerry had some pretty good rhythm chops too :)
June 11, 2015 - 7:36am

#6807

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Blow Away

Blow Away is my destructive Brent Anthem. Great tune live. Also glad I didn't notice that.
June 11, 2015 - 7:10am

#6808

Mar-T

Joined:
January 24, 2011

Ornette and Brent

Ornette Coleman, free jazz sax legend and Dead collaborator died this morning. Remarkably courageous and powerful player... RIP, man.On the Brent front, I wasn't a fan when I was in my 20's. In fact, "I will take you home" was dubbed "I will take a piss" or "I will get a beer." Great chance to take a breather. Not until he died did I really begin to fully appreciate his contributions. Like Oxford, I am particularly thrilled by his use of the B3 and Leslie. He channeled more authentic blues energy than anyone in the band. Listen to some of those Walking Blues or Never Trust a Woman from 90 and check out his stunning organ and scat solos. The dude had chops. He rocked best to Pocky Way and Blow Away, IMO, not to mention Gimme Some Lovin and Hey Jude. Hell, now that I have two kids of my own, even I Will Take You Home has a place in my heart!
June 11, 2015 - 6:51am

#6809

Oxford 88

Joined:
April 28, 2012

Gone South Overnight

Ooowee, the Brent bashing has reached new lows overnight. My live experiences with the Dead spanned the Brent era. I am not a diehard advocate for Brent's tunes, although that Hey Pocky Way opener at Shoreline 87 blew me away. As a back-up singer, Brent took a few years to hit his stride, but I liked the smoky fills on a number of songs. Jerry loved singing back-up, but he sure needed help for a good stretch of the 80's. In terms of the playing and his "sounds", after he got away from the Schroeder toy piano sound and started working the B-3 with the Leslie, I thought it was outstanding. I liked the semi-soulful, pseudo Allman sound this brought to the mix. Hell, I even liked the cat scratch fills on Loser (haters may want to skip this on 10/21/83-it was incredible live and for me it has held up to multiple listenings). We are a funny bunch- grumbling about too many Lovelight raps from Pig, the off key caterwauling Donna on many tunes and the block chords that Keith resorted to at the end. I listen to it all- yes, I absolutely prefer the strongest eras and the best shows within each. I did not purchase either of the '90 boxes because I knew I wouldn't give them the time they deserve. I am not sure there is a need to tear anyone apart in these forums, whether a band member or current poster. We have the ability to simply move away from what we don't like and allow others their space to enjoy. Even within the world of licorice there are many different textures and tastes.
June 11, 2015 - 6:46am

#6810

Chris Grand

Joined:
August 20, 2012

minas

that's a bit harsh, but i agree that the 70's songs sounded better in the 70's. i will say this about brent...i caught a "go ahead" show in new orleans in the late 80's (billy & brent plus some other players), where brent was the bandleader, and it was FANTASTIC something about being the man in the band brought out a side of him rarely seen with the dead. gone were the michael-mcdonald-warbling and the occasional histrionics, and in its place was well played rock/blues/R&B so take that for what its worth...

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Latvala willing

Nice touch, rrot.

Psychedlic Reading List

Some suggestions for some interesting reading: The Psychedelic Renaissance, Dr. Ben Sassa; LSD My Problem Child, Albert Hofmann; many articles on EROWID.org.

Genesis...Dylan...etc

Wanted to jump into the Dylan conversation. I came to the Dead partially via Dylan and the late 87 performances so I have him to thank for this in a way. I think there's a little bit to like about all of his albums...even the Christian ones. Street Legal has always been a favorite of mine. Where Are You Tonight should be dusted off for live shows. It could easily go into doomsday mode like Highway 61 did live. The new bootleg volume sounds intriguing, but with boxzilla coming there's no way two of those will fit into the budget. Too bad. I think Blonde on Blonde is right there with BOTT as my favorite. Time Out of Mind belongs in there too. So much good stuff from him since 97. As far as Carpet Crawlers and the mention of the lamb...Peter Gabriel can still pull it off I think. The real question mark is Phil Collins deciding he can drum again for a whole show. I'd travel to see that show though. Too bad nobody seems to be pushing for it anymore. I think a new Gabriel album will come before any kind of classic Genesis reunion. And by the time the cycle for a new album is over...will anyone feel like doing the lamb? I get a Phil Lesh vibe from most of Genesis, no large scale touring. Got the shipping address email...hoping this thing shows up by the middle of October. Haven't streamed a whole lot yet, but I may start again soon. The 73 show is spectacular.

addl reading

In addition to the ones mentioned, I got a kick out of these two: - Brotherhood of Eternal Love: From Flower Power to Hippie Mafia: The Story of the LSD Counterculture - Orange Sunshine: The Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Its Quest to Spread Peace, Love, and Acid to the World Acid dreams was good, but a heady read, the first two are light and informative. I will have to check out the fungal accompaniment.

thanks Charlie3

I got a computer virus 3-4 years ago and lost the bookmark to erowid.org. Never thought about asking anyone here if they knew of it. Thanks Thanks!!! Will be looking but my memory seams to remember they had a pdf. ebook called the Brotherhood of the Universal Church (Brotherhood of Universal Love)or something like that written by a head.

Blonde on Blonde

I was waiting for someone to mention Blonde on Blonde, my favorite Dylan album. I picked up the 3 LP vinyl set from Mofi, mastered at 45rpm, and I really love it. It's always a sign of a special day, usually weekends, when the Mofi Blonde on Blonde comes out. I am also a big fan of Street Legal, but I am confused why it is being mentioned a a gospel album. It is my understanding Slow Train was the first gospel album. Maybe someone more astute could clarify if I am wrong. I am also a huge fan of Time Out of Mind, especially this time of year. It is a wonderful early Fall album. I was really hoping for a Mofi vinyl/SACD remaster of TOOM, but I am not sure that will happen as I am hearing different things about how far Mofi is going into Dylan's catalog. I'd also like to throw Desire and New Morning into the discussion, as I really love the sound of both of those albums.

Addl reading

Those three are on my list of books to check out. I recently finished reading Electric Kool Aid Acid test, which was as good as I remembered, and I then read Hells Angels by Hunter Thompson which was cool because it kind of overlapped with some of the incidents and people in Electric Kool Aid Acid Test. Also looking at getting Lysergic by Krystle Cole - the whole William Leonard Pickard story is pretty mind boggling. Terribly unjust that people are locked up for psychedelic exploration.

Erowid

You are welcome Gary. That site has a ton of great information. I like to look at the PDF library of blotter designs from the DEA. Its like a trip down memory lane.

group mind again

Jim: too funny, I think those are the books I have been trying to find again for several years. The ESP gestalt may need revisiting.

Forgot to mention...

I saw Dylan in '95 at Johnny Mercer Theater in Savannah, and he and his band were excellent. I wish I could say the same for later Dylan shows I've seen, although he had a pretty great band then, as well, including Larry Campbell.

Dylan

Have always thought Dylan was an incredible writer but have never been a huge fan as a performance artist. I guess I am missing out, so I will be buying some of these recommendations. You had better be right! J/K

group mind Charlie3

It is wierd because I have Electric Kool-Aid and Hell's Angels in my queue. Also, what is it called, My Life with Cody, maybe? Kool-Aid will be a revisit from a long time and space ago.

Got the....

Last chance to make address corrections to my 30 Trips order e-mail, in other words 30 Trips will be shipping SOON!!!! You have until October 2nd, 11:59 to make any changes. I'm going to assume that since October 2nd is a Friday TPTB may start shipping Monday, October 5th. I haven't listened to one note or read 1 sentence from the free stream So I SAY BRING IT ON!!!! Countdown to resume tomorrow!!!!! At least we have movement which shows progress. HAPPY WEDNESDAY DEADLAND!!!!

Genesis

If there were ever a reunion, which there won't be with Phil Collins (he says he physically cannot drum anymore and is officially retired), I wouldn't pick the Lamb in its entirety for the set list. I would go with a best of Gabriel era Genesis - Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England, and the Lamb. There's really no reason they shouldn't do it without Phil. I wouldn't miss him - throw in Bruford and or Chester Thompson. It still probably wouldn't happen though - if I read between the lines correctly on their most recent documentary with all 5 of them, Hackett HATES Gabriel. And why do it all with Hackett.

Favorite Dylan Albums

In no particular order: Pat Garret & Billy the Kid Street Legal - maybe my favorite Planet Waves John Wesley Harding Time out of Mind Highway 61 Bringing It all Back Home I could name 10 others at least. They're all good and unique. I'm less into the new stuff but I like Love and Theft too.Its amazing the vibe Dylan is able to create throughout an album (any album really), that's so different from his other stuff.

thanks rrot

did not know about Progeny. Man this site is also a great educational tool!

Re: Genesis

Phil's back issues have prevented him from doing anything further. He says he's interested in sitting back and only taking the drummer role. The real culprit in delaying a Genesis reunion is Peter Gabriel. He works notoriously slow and sort of half-assed says he's interested but on his own timeframe and the others can't work like that. Steve Hackett says he'd do it only if Gabriel is involved. There's not neccesarily bad blood between Tony Banks and Gabriel (and Hackett!) but their personalities clash and they have a very difficult time working together. Any true Genesis fan will tell you Tony Banks is the heart and soul of the band and the one most interested in keeping it alive. It's a complicated mess. I've a feeling it will never get sorted out. We have a brilliant back catalog to keep us company at least.

matchewy!

Desire and New Morning are my two personal faves!! They see the most play of all my Dylan albums. As such, Another Self-Portrait (Bootleg Series Volume 10) is a bonafide treasure chest. But I'll echo the praise for Blood On the Tracks & Time Out of Mind. Live At the Gaslight 1962 is another choice vault release. And Basement Tapes, OF COURSE. The only issue I've had post-TOoM is the high percentage of "genre" songs -- traditional folk/country/rockabilly/bluesy structures with Dylan lyrics draped on them -- as opposed to original melodies, a la "You're a Big Girl Now," "Lovesick," etc. But I confess I still haven't heard his last album...and I'll certainly cut him some slack after five decades of iconic songwriting. It's still good music, and amazing he's still as engaged & prolific as he is at age who-knows-what. Of the times I've seen him between 86-07, the Time Out of Mind tour was head & tails above any other--Bob was the lead guitarist all night! (By contrast, he never left the piano stool last time I saw him.) The Dead tour in '87 was pretty heart-cheering stuff, too, however history may assess it.

Bob

In my opinion Bob Dylan is the most important artist from 1960 to today. I would say of all time but I feel that Robert Johnson held the title pre 1960. Now this is a bold statement so I will not leave you without reason. If you google Bob Dylan Newport Folk Festival 1964 you can watch a nice clean cut boy play a very nice clean cut performance of tambourine man. You will notice a man in his mid-50's tapping his foot in the background. This proves that not only did young folks enjoy Bob but so did their parents. Now fast forward one year later and watch Bob's performance at the 1965 NFF. You will see Bob in a leather jacket raging through a stellar performance of Maggie's Farm. Electric guitar in hand singing how he ain't gonna work on that damn farm no more. On this day Bob Dylan changed the face of music forever. He paved the way for everyone to follow and the revolution began. His words are the fabric of our culture. It's no surprise why Jerry loved Bob's music so much. In fact I think anybody who is anybody in music realizes how important Bob is because all the greats play his music.

Re: MilesM - Broad Shoulders

No doubt Bob had broad shoulders and moved everything forward; a powerful figure at a pivotal time. McNally's book On Highway 61: Music, Race and the Evolution of Cultural Freedom shows a great historical perspective better than I can through a post. Its not a quick read, but its a good book and does cover the topics you mention in great detail.

The Stream......

I've really been digging the stream. Playing it at work every day. I hope it stays up after Boxzilla is delivered. What was that line in Ghostbusters about "The Stream"?

update?

Hey Hey I just got an e-mail asking me if my address is OK and that OCT 2nd is the last day to contact them for any correction...so could the mammoth monster of a box set be shipping soon???????????????

"I forgot to mention something very important..."

"Don't cross the streams."

Dylan...the man!

my favorite Dylan albums are Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks, and Desire. He is the greatest American songwriter, in the world?...IMO anyways!

@ Gary Farseer

Visions of Cody

Country (?) artists

I have always been a big fan, but let's keep in mind that Dickey Betts hated the term. I do include the "Southern" bands in my list: Poco, Marshall Tucker, Charlie Daniels, Commander Cody, Souther Hillman & Furay, ABB, Grinderswitch, Elvin Bishop, The Byrds, Cowboy, The Jayhawks, Flying Burrito Bros., Leftover Salmon, Kingfish, Mudcrutch, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Ozark Mt. Daredevils, Outlaws, Henry Paul, NRPS. And Wilco's first album, A.M. Rock on

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Re: GenesisAs someone who saw the 'Lamb' tour at the Phila., Pa. Civic Center in 1975, I urge, prod, goad anyone interested in this album to see the Genesis tribute band 'the Musical Box'. The performance I saw in Atlantic City, N.J. in 2005 is as close as any of us will get to the real thing. They have the bands' blessing and were given the slide show that plays behind the band as they perform the music. If I get the chance, I would go and see them perform the 'Selling England…' show (I was fortunate enough to see this tour twice) to see how accurate their performance is. I would jump through hoops to see the 'Foxtrot' show since I never saw this tour. Re: Bob Dylan According to Wikipedia, 6 Bob Dylan singles are released in 1965 (Muleskinner you might have more accurate dates?): 1. The Times They Are A-Changin' (3/8/65) (You have received your warning!) 2. Subterranean Homesick Blues (3/8/65)? 3. Maggie's Farm (6/?/65) 4. Like A Rolling Stone (7/20/65) 5. Positively 4th St. (7/29/65) (only available on Greatest Hits - the 1st to do this?) 6. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? (12/21/65) Common thread? Not one of these singles extoll the virtues of love nor lament the loss of it either. Unless I'm mistaken, Bob Dylan was the first musician/band to get on the radio consistently, while not singing about 'Love'. He wrote his own lyrics, he composed his own music (and yes, he stole liberally from folk and blues, who the hell doesn't?), he was young, he was defiant, and most of all he was confrontational while hiding in plain sight. In one year Bob Dylan single-handedly killed Tin Pan Alley and the Brill Building (sorry Carole King) and popular music would never be the same.

@Saintstephen71

An 'E72 box went onto ebay this morning. It says good condition and there is a picture.425 USD. Check it out. I have my ebay account set up to give me new Dead listings every morning. Rock on

Important Artist

MMiles: I'll go with Bob for 1960 forward, if we have to have just one. And we are talking music. If by Robert Johnson, you mean the man himself, I think you are wrong. If you mean 'Robert Johnson' as a stand-in for dozens of blues musicians who arose in the 1910-1930s from Texas to the Delta to the Carolinas, you have an argument. But for the pre-1960s it loses to: Louis Armstrong. JiminMD--you are right to recommend McNally's book On Highway 61 for historical perspective, and interesting opinion. Another book, that uses Robert Johnson as a way to look at the development of the blues, and its revivial in the '60s, is Escaping the Delta by Elijiah Wald. Finally, Ted Gioia's Delta Blues is informative, though is not the all-inclusive survey it is marketed as. McNally's and Gioia's books are easier reads, Wald's more deeply insightful.

streamin' drums

I really like the streaming format, had some fun clicking through each show and listening just to the drums sections. It's neat to hear the change in sound over the years. I agree on the band 'The Musical Box'. I believe they're touring again with the Selling England and Foxtrot albums. Just to hear 'Supper's Ready' is worth the price of admission. cheers, Mark

hbob1995

You have heard of Cowboy. I am too young, well in my 50's and climbing. But I only heard of Cowboy recently. Documentary - Song of the South - they discuss Cowboy some and the Hour Glass. The guys from Hour Glass mention opening for Grateful Dead at the Filmore (I think). They say the blew the doors off. I am sure they did well. There has been a discussion among heads for years about the Moutain Jam tease Jerry does in 1968 or so? I think I heard it maybe on the 1968 Valentine's Road Trip. The discussion was always that the Allman Brothers got that more solidified jam from Jerry's musings. However, if/when Hour Glass (with Duane and Greg) opened for Grateful Dead, it would make sense that Jerry heard Duane teasing/working out that riff. Discussion? As far as Cowboy, just went and heard them a couple of weeks back. Did not know there story until the following article. Small joint, place packed. I sat outside and listened for a while. http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/09/scott_boyer_talks_cow… edit: I cannot remember, I am sure some here do, where the Mountain Jam riff was lifted from???

Dave Strang

I remember you championing the Music Box a few weeks back. If they get in my neck of the woods I will be there! Never thought about Bob being the chief killer of Tin Pan Alley but you are correct. I mean he (and of course the Beatles as a group) launched the singer/songwriter era. Is that correct? Wasn't Neal Diamond the last great Tin Pan Alley writer before he broke out on his own???

wharf rat

Sampling Boxzilla since the stream has been available and I am VERY impressed! About a show a day and mixing up the years and today was 1971. Wow! The whole show is so diverse yet so together. The boys are very tight. That Wharf Rat was too good to be true. Love this band.

thanks boo469

Visions of Cody...have you read, looks like it might be a tough read, small print. Makes my ADHD head hurt...

Morning Sun

Morning Sun you might have me there. Louis Armstrong was a giant indeed. Always been a fan.

The Mountain.

As far as I am aware the Mountain jam has its basis in Donovan Leitch's song "The Mountain". Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Simon

I believe that is correct. Thanks Should have known you would know!!!

@Matchewy

I didn't mean to lump Street Legal in with the gospel albums. I was just addressing it alongside them as it was mentioned earlier in the Dylan discussion. I think it's certainly a nice intro to that period. I've always got a gospel feel from some of those songs, a subtle fire and brimstone style preacher delivery and all that.

Neil

I had no idea Neil Diamond wrote at Tin Pan Alley but you are correct. Just read about it. This conversation is getting really interesting.

99 USBs left

There should be about 99 USB versions on this 30 Trips Around the Sun left.

Fungus follow up for Gary

Stay with McKenna..... No one has done more to further the understanding of this interplanetary wisdom teacher called magic mushrooms.... Check out his other works.... Food of the gods and the mushroom growers guide..... Great resource...

Terence McKenna

And yes.... You are right.... He came up with timewave zero theory.... But the events that led up to that down in the amazon on a quest for the philosophers stone is just a flat out wild story.... Must read.....several references to the grateful dead and what they were doing at the time.... 1971-72......

There is a Mountain

Just saw Steve Earle and the Dukes perform this at Lockn,,, it was very nice. Also had the pleasure of hearing Furthur doing the riff in Alligator at Red Rocks. It's a great riff

@GaryFarseer

Actually, Chuck Berry and to a lesser degree Buddy Holly were two of the first to write their own songs, but you wouldn't say they were singer/songwriters. I think Chuck Berry was discounted because he was black even though he wrote some of the greatest rock & roll songs of all time, and we all know what happened to Buddy Holly. And yes, Neil Diamond was one of the last to go out on his own. Even Lou Reed worked for a songwriting house pre-Velvet Underground. While the Beatles wrote their own lyrics and music they still sang about the glory and pitfalls of love. Bob Dylan was the first to write and sing outside of the 'love' box (no jokes guys, that one's way too easy). Imagine being 16 or 18 years old and hearing "You gotta lotta nerve, to say you are my friend" coming out of your transistor radio in 1965. NOBODY had done ANYTHING like that before. Even if you hated it, you stopped to listen because it was unchartered territory. Dylan was the first to show the possibility of a 2 1/2 -3 minute pop song. After 1965 there was no turning back.

dave strang and Dylan comment

You ask to imagine being 16/18 in 65 and hearing dylan. I was only 9, and yeah, Bob had it. Remember the power of the times they are a changin. I remember singing How Many Roads in church. Bob broke thru in ways others didn't. You would hear him on AM stations after Frank Sinatra, before Mr Sandman. Where you never hear the Dead on those type stations. Back when AM was all there was and it played top 40. Are there any stations like that today,, everything is pigeon-holed. Don't know if this Dylan been thrown in yet, but,,,, but his last album Shadows in the Night was great. You need to listen all the way thru and not pick and choose, but what a mood piece.

Posatively 4th Street

That song got a hold of me too, from the first listen. I stopped what I was doing. A powerful song.., I rewound it and listened to it again. I completely agree with that comment. I bet there's not a person on this board that didn't personalize the meaning of that one. Good stuff all.

Gospel

I think Dylan's album Street Legal got lumped in with the gospel ones because it evokes that sense of impending change that soon after erupted into full-blown born-again kook. I don't think any of those songs mentions Jesus explicitly but they sound evangelical somehow. The "Changing of the Guard" was coming. He ended most shows in late 1978 with that song. And yes, do seek out the bootlegs where he sermonizes and only sings the new gospel songs (starting with the Fox Warfield SF shows on 11/1/79). He soon after began to weave in some of the old hits but at first he fancied himself a real fire-and-brimstone preacher. I'm glad he moved on before too long. That act would have grown old fast. Still, it's fascinating to re-visit it.

I'll give it to you

if you have DaP 2 I'll give you a physical copy of DP 1. for a copy of the pick. the case is in need of a new front and disc 1 looks a little rough disc 2 looks good. I can send you a copy of the 2 discs(I bought this set on eBay) so you can can have a clean copy along with the physical. please message me

individual shows and more for sale

guys im selling individual shows from the 30 trips set for those heads wo cant afford or dont want all shows. all shows available except 66 67 69 70 71 72 and 73. shows 55us dollars each inc shipping from oz... email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com with requests...first come first served...also taking offers for book the single and the scroll...

keep or cancel

That's foolish to break up the set like that...I don't think you should do it...but do you have the set? when cd-r came out I tried buying an album burning it then selling the original cd but somehow it just didn't feel right I like having the real thing even though in theory there's probably not a difference between the real thing and the burned copy but in the mind there is...I think the set is shipping soon...although not one person mentioned that fact it may be...I was contacted by the dead if my address was correct for this order but no one else mentioned for some reason there's a disucussion on Dylan tonight...far as calling Dylan a kook for the gospel tour then your talking about something you don't understand...outside of anybody I don't recall better written gospel songs written by a songwriter...take any song from slow train and they're either prophetic, genius or just plain great...I won't tell you why but it's not preachy...I think by "Saved" it's getting boring but still those same songs worked a lot better in his live show than on the album...solid rock is close to good as any gospel song I heard outside of amazing grace and songs of that elk....I believe in you and when he returns are chilling!

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