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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Now I'm stressing.... :)
    So yesterday I was stuck in the computer glitch, and wasn't sure I had an actual order. I called Dead.Net (after a few calls where they couldn't tell me anything), and I was told my original order was "canceled" and I should go ahead and place a new order. I placed a new order and it went through like clockwork. Then last night, after I went to sleep, I received an email from an Edward Watson, that most orders did not go through and I should go ahead and place an order (since their issues were fixed). I saw that email this morning, but since I already placed a good order I didn't think much of it. Just an hour ago, in some online forums people are saying that orders they placed orders while the systems were "stuck" actually went through. I get curious, since I really don't want two $700.00 boxes, and I call Dead.net. I talk to a very nice woman, who seems to confirm that I actually do have two good orders and if I didn't call, I would end up getting two boxes. She gives me the order number for the order I never got a confirmation on (the one that was stuck in process for hours before I "gave up"). It seems to be a good order, so I tell her to go ahead and cancel that order, and make sure I only get one box. She puts me on hold and goes and talks to her supervisor, and then she cancels the order I successfully placed online, for which I got a confirmation email; leaving the one order I never got a confirmation email on (since it was never confirmed and was placed while they were having system issues). I tell her why did you cancel my "good" order, and leave the one order I have no confidence is a good order? She tells me that her supervisor said it didn't matter which order she canceled. So now with boxes selling quickly according to what I was told by the woman on the phone, I supposedly have a good order, but no confirmation that said order is a good order. Why did she cancel the one order I knew was a good order? So I am stressing that somehow they may have a list of all these orders that were supposedly in cancel mode yesterday, that somehow are now "good", like the order she left intact for me, and these orders may get canceled as well (since it was the order I tried to place when the systems went FUBAR). I am actually stressed that in the end I get no box, a box I really want. I was told I would get a confirmation email regarding the order she left in place, but it wasn't a priority right now to get them out. UGH... So I really hope I get a box, or I will be very upset at this entire process. Fingers crossed.
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    I agree on all your points. And yes to help generate over 5 mil in sales they could have produced a better video. I'm sure the follow up videos will be informative, fun & above all clear. Perhaps Mr. Norman can work his magic & remaster the current DL promo clip?
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    I took the plunge this morning? Yourself? If so, I think we will both need extensive tutoring on how to appreciate the many many discs of the Brent era shows; not to mention the last few. If not for subscription, or this comprehensive box, I would be hard pressed to purchase a show from 78-95 a la carte. There are too many dics in this baby for there not to be lots of great music etched inside. I will be ready to dive in. At some point, I will have to come up for air. God willing, with a smile on my face. Sam T
  • WharfratWhitey
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    "but the music is special to me and takes me places." Ditto WH5150. Let's drink to that!
  • WH5150
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    It is a bummer but.......
    The cost is a bummer...... a bummer that while 7 CDs more than Europe '72 it is way more pricey....... a true bummer....... had to really think about it instead of it being an immediate purchase. Though in the end, bit the bullet. took some happy hour drinks to make me do it though. I am bummed it was so pricey and there is a bit of gouging going on. but the music is special to me and takes me places. Do I think that was taken advantage of? yes I do. Do I think I will get my money worth out if it? I guess....... but a bummer they took advantage of our love of the music. Peace Roger PS re-tape the video. Its terrible. Unwatchable. WITF! would any company worth its weight in SPAM post that crappy video. Nope. Its not complicated, if it is too windy tape it indoors. Does this really need spelled out? Apparently
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    The number of available boxes are going up! Maybe they found more?
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    I've watched a lot of talk about mp3/flac/cd/hd cd/vinyl. What I see as a few points. I have a top notch stereo (Conrad Johnson tube preamp, threshold statis amp with Magneplanner MG3 speakers), it does sound great. When I bought it the salesman had several words of advice, first you audio collection had to be worth 4 times your system or you pissed money away. Two if all you listened to was FM radio, don't buy this system. Third you will ONLY hear this quality if you sit quiet in the right spot. If your doing the dishes, cleaning the house working in the yard you will NEVER hear what the system is reproducing. I don't sit in front of my stereo much anymore, in fact its been stored for quite awhile since the speakers need a fair amount of room to work right. Most of my listening is in the car, on my computer speakers or some wireless shit I have in the garage and backyard. They all sound fine and you will NEVER hear the difference in source material in this listening environment. I have some nice computer speakers (Bose Companion 5), they attach via a usb port and sound incredible for 400 bucks. The junk in garage and backyard sound great while working on cars or floating in pool or weeding backyard. The car system is the "best" stock Toyota Avalon system, sounds good enough. I also have cheap computer speakers scatter around the house and have a cheap laptop I use as a jukebox to stream the music off my hard drive of my desktop. So on Saturday night when me and the wife are getting ready to go to dinner, I hook laptop to bathroom computer speakers and let fly. Echo in bathroom, think you'll hear the difference in flac/mp3? I don't. Certainly you can hear difference in mp3 levels, most of my music is 320 levels, audiobooks are 128. I have found with audiobooks if people rip at a 64 rate there is a ringing sound. Music I will not even take for free if its under 128. 128 sounds fine on cheap wireless speakers in pool while hanging with friends. Size considerations,,, mp3 320 is a lot smaller that wav or flac. May not matter to some, (some commented about eating up GB's), well I have 500,000 songs, by over 6,000 artist and almost fill a 5 TERRA BYTE drive. So even if flac sounded better while cutting the grass :-) I can't fit a half a million songs on a reasonable amount of space. And don't forget, you need TWICE the space so you can backup collection. I have a 5TB drive for backups that I only attach to machine while backing up, then it's unplugged to protect it. Plus I have copies stored outside the house. It has taken 15 years to get to this point so I am WELL backed up. Also too I'm gonna be 60 in January and even though I swear I got great hearing (still the only person who can hear a toilet running in the house!!:-) I still gotta believe I have some high end loss. So you really need to ask yourself how and where do I listen to music. And really what do I listen to. I don't think Andy Williams needs a 30,000 dollar system to listen to on, nice though his voice is! The Dead definitely can utilize a great sound system, full range and large sound stage. MP3's are very convenient, I know Neil Young is going around complaining about them, but you also know that man gotta be half deaf from standing in front of crazy horse and sonic youth :-) So I'll stick with my 320 level mp3 and be able to carry 50,000 songs on vacation in a player the size of bic lighter or hell, your cell phone. PS - there are differences in mp3 players, the iPhone doesn't sound as good as the Samsung, for a player I use a Cowan Iaudio, have the same one for years now. My buddy uses his Samsung galaxy phone and blue tooths it into his car, sounded fine that last time I was out with him.
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    Wow, I just tried watching David's video. I usually enjoy those and find his enthusiasm infectious. The first thing he says is how he can't control the wind and some folks don't like it in the videos. Well, I watched two minutes and it was so annoying, I decided it wasn't worth it. I am sure he had interesting comments to make, but it was like listening to a phone conversation that keeps cutting out. I am sure that he is right in that the area he likes to shoot these is inherently windy and he can't stop the wind. But perhaps it might make sense to shoot it somewhere slightly less scenic but a lot quieter. Oh well. I've just been skimming some of these posts. Seems like the usual reaction to a big box. I haven't noticed any comments about the video. Have people watched it? Does the wind/sound issue get less annoying? Hey, this is coming off negatively and other than being disappointed about the video, I think this is a cool release. For all those folks who wanted better representation in the latter years, here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is. For all those who wanted some really early stuff, you should be happy too. For all those who like the late '60s - '77 era, there's more of that! For all those who think music should be free, man, well you're out of luck. lol
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    I agree with your first sentence. Wholeheartedly. Didn't what I wrote seem to communicate even the TINIEST bit of sarcasm? Or was it the word 'fucking' that offended you? Not that I really care, just wondering. Your political affiliations are showing... I'd apologize but my apologies would not, in fact, be genuine. Cool boxed set, and completely apolitical too! Almost anyway. Still want to get 2-9-73 Maples and hear JG stepping all over Wavy Gravy's 'not political' announcement at the start of the second set.
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    Hey Cosmicneil-THE OFFER I CANT REFUSE
    I am inerested in your offer pm me
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Apparently the crack equipment crew hard at work hasn't made everything just exactly perfect yet. Yesterday my order status went from "Backordered" (mid-October shipping) to "in process" to "Backordered" (October 31 shipping). Figuring out the ship date is becoming a little like trying to guess the setlist... Well, my mother always told me patience is a virtue, but... it's getting hard to disagree with lowspark75.
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it'll probably go mid-month I think 10/31 was just a default date but you have to assume it's going soon based on that e-mail last week to update your address...I have a funny feeling it'll ship on Friday...it's based on nothing though.
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That makes for a 45 Day interest free loan of $6.5 Million. Must be nice! I sort of feel like a patsy.
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What 5 shows are you most looking forward to? Mine: 1. 11/10/67 Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA 2. 3/18/71 Fox Theatre - St. Louis, MO 3.11/14/73 San Diego Sports Arena - San Diego, CA 4. 10/3/76 Cobo Hall - Detroit, MI 5. 6/24/85 River Bend Music Center - Cincinnati, OH The 2nd set for 6/24/85 looks very interesting with a full 'That's It For The Other One' ('Cryptical' included). So a question for my much well informed fellow Heads: When was the last previous time GD performed this (w/ 'Cryptical')? And did they ever perform it again (w/ 'Cryptical') after 6/24/85? Of course JG has to be included.
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As others have stated DaP5 11/17/73 is a great show with well "Norman-ized" audio. Honorable mention: DP19 10/19/73 Oklahoma City, OK RT4.3 11/21/73 Denver, CO (4 days after DaP5) The following shows are incomplete, but still great listening: DP14 11/30/73 & 12/2/73 both Boston, MA DP28 2/26/73 Lincoln, NE & 2/28/73 Salt Lake City, UT I asked in an earlier post if you'd be willing to re-purchase incomplete shows if now complete (returned reels etc.), these were some of the shows I was thinking of.
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Cryptical was played 6/16/85 at the Greek, first time since 12/15/71 at the Hill Aud. In Ann Arbor, MI. They only played it 3 more times after 6/24 - on 6/30/85 at Merriweather Post and 7/13/85 in Ventura CA (at both of these they only played the part that precedes The Other One), and 9/3/85 in Kansas City MO where they played both sections. I can't really answer which I'm most looking forward to because I've been going through the streams in chronological order and am into the 85 show already. I will need to listen again to let it all sink it but I remember being especially blown away by the 68,69 and 70 shows. There haven't been any duds. The first set of 76 is fairly standard, but the second set is unbelievable. Although there are lots of highlights on the 79 show (Phil's entry on The Other One, the Dancing->Franklin's), I've always preferred the following night of the two-nighter in Cape Cod. I was surprised at how good the 84 show was, major fun. The 71 thru 74 shows were not surprising, they were predictably top-drawer jaw dropping. The 75 show is, as you would expect, unique. It has a looser feel to it than the Great American, with prime Phil everywhere. Love the early Help-Slip, and it's interesting how they sandwiched out the Franklin's. The 77 show is very solid, but relative to other 77 we already have, it's not at the very top of the heap. I love the early 80's stuff and don't mind the patches. There are Scarlet-Fires on both the 82 and 83 shows and they're very different. For those that have never fallen in love with Brent's playing I'm hoping that some will after really listening to these. He was a really brilliant player, and they were fabulously lucky to have him.
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Thanks wjonjd - so 1985 was it as far as complete TIFTOO. Too bad as I really enjoyed the 'Crypticals'. Some great jams could come out of the 2nd one. You have me salivating anew with your descriptions of the other shows. As expected '68-'76 will probably be worth the price of admission alone. While I didn't expect a top shelf '77 (5/7-5/9), another '77 is always welcome. '79 was #6 on my list as I think Brent really gave "new life" to the band as much as I liked Keith.
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I predict it will be Springfield MA 1973
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Why, yes. I will have some. Thank you, Mister Lemieux.
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You need to check your math my friend. Even if they sold all 6500 boxes, and the 1000 USBs, which they have not yet done, that comes to $5,250,000 and not $6.5 million Rock on
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What 5 titles are you listening to while awaiting the BOX DROP? GD can be included. 1. Gary Clark Jr. - Blak And Blu. Great guitar work-outs mixed with mid-60's R&B/Soul 2. Richard Thompson - Still Deluxe. If you should purchase this do yourself a favor and get the deluxe 2 CD version with 5 additional songs. These aren't alternate/demo/live versions of songs already on the album, but 5 fully realized outtakes that should have/could have been on the main album. 3. Los Lobos - Good Morning Aztlan (or 'Kiko') I'm looking forward to the new album. It seems like you can never go wrong with these guys. 4. Genesis - Live at the Philadelphia Spectrum 9/18/07. A friend sent me a soundboard(?). Not being much of a post-Gabriel listener, I was pleasantly surprised at the mix of old and new material. 5. GD - DP33 10/9 & 10/76. 2 afternoon concerts opening for the Who. 'Nuff said.
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So I finally have figured it out. All of you are marketing Bots designed to bleed me of every last dime. I will stop listening to you from this date forward. BTW, I just picked up the 73 Winterland also, for $108.99. This must be the last one because now the cheapest new version is $273. I had been eyeing it for a while but after posts on here I figured I better grab it. But after this, "No more Soup for You"! Oh yeah, what were the other 73DP?
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And even it was $6.5 million sold, 1% interest for 45 days comes to about $7150 dollars.Are you really going to complain about that while Rhino works out all of the kinks? I mean c'mon. That's peanuts to a big corporation Rock on
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Hi Gary - See my post to Lowspark75 post #59. There's also DP1 12/19/73 Tampa, Fl.
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1. Heartless Bastards - ArrowErika Wennerstrom's Austin-based garage band extraordinaire. 2. The Word - Soul Food Sacred Steel by NMAS, Robert Randolph and John Medeski 3. Rhiannon Giddens - Tomorrow is My Turn From Carolina Chocolate Drops, covering lots of great tunes. Great voice. 4. Ryan Bingham - Mescalito Great songwriting and a voice beyond his years. 5. Africa Express - Terry Riley's "In C" Malian musicians with Brian Eno and a couple other western musicians doing their version of Terry Riley's legendary piece. If you like Bombino, Tinariwen and Ali Farka Toure, check this out.
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Great stuff UV1! Must have been great to be there. Thanks for sharing!
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Yeah we were charged long ago...and we can listen to it but i'm listening off of my computer not a stereo system with an amp machine...I kind of got off the dead for awhile so I won't anticiapate the box too much...now we have a dave's pick from a pretty good year 1973...for me the whole pocket of 1969-1973 was just flawless you would never disappoint me with a show from that period...then if it's too good I might get the dreaded fare thee well tour...to be honest I hate to get it but i'm intrigued by the Phish guitar player...I heard some of it on you tube and thought the dead people will do better with the mix then anybody on youtube can...of course it'll cost me 200$ something to really think about...I definitely won't order until it's been released.
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That sounds fantastic! I am a huge fan of everyone mentioned in the description, so I will definitely hunt that down. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Here – as I await another 80 CDs of music from the Lost Boyz and wonder how to rearrange my shelves to show off Boxzilla – is a left-field question out of thin air… Bear with me: would be interested to hear your views. I have a moderately large collection of music (almost 2000 CDs plus a whole bunch of vinyl and some virtual stuff). I've never been a taper or tape exchanger but I have pretty much all GD official releases. My first Dead show was in '70: I'm a Euro-Deadhead so I caught 'em in '70, '72 (a lot), '74, '80, '81 and '90. As a whole my music collection is pretty wide-ranging and contains all the good shit from Early Mediaeval through Bach and Mozart to Smithways folk, the jazz and blues greats and rock'n'roll, right up to good "newer" artists such as Wilco, Ryan Adams, Mercury Rev, War On Drugs, The National etc….with a lot of Motown, country, "Americana"… You know what I mean…it's not rubbish. No Abba. So here's my question: I'm in my sixties now. My wife and music? Meh. My teenage daughter? She has a good grounding - loves the Beatles, Stones, Bach and Beach Boys she was brought up on - but now listens to that horseshit and rap that teenagers listen to. So what am I going to do with this fabulous and lovingly compiled collection when I'm dust? I mean, hey, I may live another twenty or thirty years (although looking at the world sometimes I hope I won't) but the way I smoke and drink there's a fair chance I'll go Jerry's way. I don't ever want to think of this lifetime of music being dispersed to the four winds. What to do? Any ideas?
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Write up a will, or a living will, and will your music collection to a person or persons or an organization, such as a library or school or a broadcaster that will benefit (but not financially) with your collection.
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Nice Seinfeld reference. I have thus far been unable to control my grateful dead purchasing impulse, but good luck to you. And I'm sure you mean AFTER picking up DaP16, right? Also, as I gather you are a Seinfeld fan, have you checked out Curb Your Enthusiasm? Larry David is the man.
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I've done some thinking along these lines as well. I'm a lawyer, so, might be predictable that I would recommend that you put something in your estate plan about it. That also means taking some time (in your case and mine, a LOT of time) to catalog what you have to make it easier for the person who has to deal with it after you're gone. Include a "notes" field (in addition to a "category" field if you like). I have some signed CDs (and first editions of books), so I would put that note in there. A friend passed away a few years ago, and his widow sold his extensive CD collection to a (bay area) local music store, but that might not always be a viable option, and the price might come to be minimal as fewer folks want physical product. Maybe there will come to be marketplaces for this stuff in bulk, though shipping 2000 CDs would be expensive. Maybe put them on an external hard drive in .wav files? Just some ideas . . .
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Yep. Down to earth advice, as I would have expected from a born cross-eyed fellow deadhead. Thanks. But who, which etc? Maybe Wavy Gravy and Seva could take care of them all...but Wavy's probably got a sell-by date similar to my own...and death don't have no mercy. Holy shit who to trust?
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Yep grabbed the DaP16. Had to, can't wait to spin it. I now have at least 1 year of new things to listen to, even if I make 2 shows a weekend. What a darn predicament. As far as Curb Your Enthusiam, I have seen a few episodes. Just got in on the Amazon Prime sale 2 weeks ago, and plan to start streaming some of the shows. I mean, that, and the free 2 day shipping is a dream come true for money saving.
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Thanks, Mr Frampton. I do indeed have a coupla 2T external discs waiting for the day I have the time - or seven dwarfs - to rip 'em all! As for the music store option, fuhgeddaboutit: I recently did a triage and took a shitload of reject CDs to a store here in Paris (where I live) to sell them on. They took about five per cent of them for something like one euro each and sent me back home with the rest. They want Rhianna or One Dimension or Johnny fucking Hallyday or some goddam French rappers. No taste here. Name me one Frenchman who listens to Gillian Welch (as I am doing as we speak). Now, if I can only rip 'em all before that catch-colt draws the coffin cart, someone - or some worthy cause - is going to get a really nice gift in a small package!
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Paul, I am a "Euro-deadhead" as you, and I ask myself exactly the same issues as you.I own almost all official productions of the Grateful Dead, and many other music (jazz, rock, African music, French music, classical music ...). Often I wonder what all this will become when I am no longer on this Earth. What will become of Europe '72 box, with the book of the box in the last pages which my name is in the "special thanks to"? Today I do not know anyone around me who would be interested in this collection patiently and lovingly grown over the years.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I have the 1st 'The Word' and have really enjoyed it. Ryan Bingham and Rhiannon Giddens w/wo CCD have been on my purchase list but I haven't bought either so far. I'll look into 'Heartless Bastards' and 'Africa Express' will be on my purchase list now as well since anything with Eno is, at the very least interesting. I've always found the best way to hear of new or unknown music is to ask others vs. radio or other media.
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I feel a lot better about the $700 loan they take out from me. I'm just getting bitter as I sit and wait.
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I am no expert, but I too believe the 10/2 physical address double check bodes well for shipping this week. I believe as others discussed several weeks back, that a huge bulk shipment is what they are after; to help keep shipping charges down. I believe after 10/2 they started printing shipping labels in bulk and are affixing them right now. I think pallets of boxes should start going out the door soon. I know one thing, I do not know much...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm in my 50's with 4000+ CDs and more box sets than most people have single CDs. I'm keeping an eye out for any nieces or nephews or any family member who shows the same music obsession as I do. If not I'll request it be sold and the proceeds be donated to Habitat For Humanity or any other worthy cause.
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You raise a very good question Paul; we have very a similar scenario and I too wonder where my vinyl/cassette (almost exclusively live recordings)/CD/digital collection will all go. Seems a shame to think it'll wind up in a dumpster. A library interested in expanding its volumes is what I always come back to, yet before too much longer it's conceivable none of my collection will be easily played. And then there's the subjectivity of my collecting...i.e. my tastes are not everybody's so why should it be kept together after I'm gone? Probably the best thing to do is digitize what you think you will listen to over the next many years and start selling the physical collection. Might as well recoup some of your financial investment. Presumably your time (listening) investment has long since been amortized by your ongoing enjoyment.
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I couldn't agree more about the best way to learn about new music and broaden one's listening horizons. Hope others chime in here with what they are currently listening to. Oh and I liked your HFH suggestion for what to do with a large collection...
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I'm fortunate to be very close with all my family members and know if no one wants the collection they'll do as I ask. They contributed roughly 5% to my collection as Xmas and birthday gifts. Ideally I would like it to stay in the family but all good things come to an end.
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If all things must fall, why build the pyramids at all?
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This afternoon it was the 7 Walkers disc from 2010 in my car. As I was reading this thread it was Johnny Halladay's Noir C'est Noir and other fun music from Johnny via youtube.com. This morning driving to work it was classical music via Philadelphia's Temple University WRTI as I usually do. Yesterday afternoon it was GD 5/3/72 Olympia Theater Paris - a part of the E '72 box. At work I am subjected to the hard rock sounds of Disturbed, via my work parter's hard rock/metal/punk tastes.
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thanks for the advice...the 50th anniversary has definitely tore me a new one. So now with the Winterland box and the 50th box, that is 4 complete shows in a row! I have to learn how to be a little more selective, but I am keeping purchases below my goal of an average of $15/disk.
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It's a tough dilemma. I'm an estate-planning/probate attorney, so I guess I come at this from a slightly different angle. Fortunately, my 12-year-old son is gradually becoming a pretty cool kid. He likes the Dead (a lot) and he absolutely adores the Who (we're going to see them together on their last tour soonish, if Roger Daultrey survives. So I think he'll get my stuff. Born Cross-Eyed had a great idea, except that my experiences with public libraries are that, too often, the stuff isn't taken very good care of, and ends up being gradually destroyed. I might recommend picking a favorite charity, one that is near and dear to your heart, and either auctioning the stuff online (Ebay or such) with the proceeds going to that charity, or just giving it to the charity and allowing them to do the auctioning. Either way, if you don't have anyone close that you think will cherish it the way you do, at least whoever is paying $$$ for it online is probably just like one of us. They want it, they're willing to spend good $$$ for it, and they'll most likely cherish it and take just as good care of it as you did. I look at it as "paying it forward", but all the while obtaining some $$$ for your loved ones or for your favorite charitable organization. Just don't let a person who won't love it like you do just sit on it and let it collect dust.
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I wonder/worry about my "collection", in the end you're dead sooooo. I have a buddy who collects and restores Cadillacs, we always joke 5 minutes after we're dead our family will be loading our stuff in the dumpster. My kid likes a lot of music, so it might be in good hands. I do point out to him certain thing not to sell cheap (like Europe 72). I have a goodly amount of vinyl (about 12' of LP's) about 300 45's (mostly top 40 from Early 70's), about 600 old 78 RPM records from mom. My LP's go back to my childhood lp's, faux Chimpmunks doing Beatles songs and other kid type things. I have several "picture" disc that may be worth something. I have an original Leonard Nimoy album, "the two side of Leonard Nimoy" (on the "Dot" label). I have about 14 "banker" boxes filled with cd's. But the most work has gone into my hard drive collection, I've spent years on that bad boy. I got about 500,000 songs/6000 artist on it. All in order & labeled. I keep this very backedup and have several offsite backups. I work on this almost everyday, correcting track syntax or adding new stuff. I worry my son who likes the collection will not keep it up to date and backedup and when the hard drive goes bad (which it will), bang it will be gone. That thought irks me a little since I have so much time invested into it. But like I said, I'll be dead, sooooo
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Dave's Picks 16 sounds great to me..I'd be game for just about anything as I broaden my horizons, but I would say that setlist seems tough to beat. Speaking of '73, I'm in the same boat as boblopes, no bonus disc in '73 but in '77, which I have in May '77...haha, I guess that's an OK problem to have but I would have liked some new music and as I'm seeing, '73 has alot to digest. I have not done any streaming or even considered it for 30 Trips; when just about everything is new to me, no reason to jump the gun there. Currently listening to 5/4/72..I've slowed way past where I wanted to be on the Euro '72 box, but still enjoying it while taking those sidetrips, so it's not worth rushing. This Dark Star seems to have some weird rhythmic vibe that has gotten in my head, probably my favorite since the 4/8 one so far. As far as listening to currently, in a global sense, I took everyone's great advice here and been checking out some of the other 'country rock' acts while reading through that book, Are You Ready for the Country. Spent the most time with Sweetheart of the Rodeo (great reissue edition by the way, well done) and the Flying Burrito Brothers first album. Also listening to Houndmouth today, we are seeing them tomorrow night in a little bar / club. I'm not super familiar with them yet, but I have liked the vibe I've heard (Sedona is the 'popular' tune). I'll second the praise for the Rhiannon Giddens album (and the CCD in general). I love her voice, not to mention the diversity of the selection on the album...from Sister Rosetta to Geeshie Wiley to Odetta to Dolly, while giving her own vibe, that's pretty impressive. Been checking in on the Dylan tour and heard a snippet of the new Sinatra / Ray Charles cover on Youtube (really liked it), but haven't looked into any boots yet.
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Teach your daughter how to sell on-line for when your dead...hell she can get 1,500 for the 30 year box set...hundreds for most of your box sets...regular cds once you open them are worth pennies for the most part...independent CDs are worth more because of supply and demand laws...but keep buying grateful dead box sets as your contributing to your daughter's future...i'd get off rap ASAP that could destroy her life in more ways than one...buy her beach boys box set if she'll burn her rap records in the yard.
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If any of my Deadhead friends with a touch of gray need my contact information to bequeath their lovingly curated collection to me upon their passing, feel free to PM me. LOL! Ashes, ashes; all fall down.
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> i'd get off rap ASAP that could destroy her life in more ways > than one... I love me some hiphop. I'll take it over most of the bands that gets lumped into the jamband genre. Different strokes, I guess.
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Talking to a GD person--subject got around to the "big box". GD person checked his/her emails and said it looks like next week is shipping target. We'll see. Hopefully so.
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Paul, I thought Gillian Welch was a french rapper???? Damn, I better toss my tix to see her and Dave's Machine next month!
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Dave,those crypticals got a....little wobbly the summer of 85. Not sure we needed anymore of that, unless they were gonna rehearse that beotch!
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OK guys - a few of you know but I have a pretty serious eye op to pay for coming soon - so I'm trying to shift the remaining shows asap. EACH of the following now ONLY $45US per show inc shipping from oz (sent day i get box): Email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com ShowS available still are 68 76 77 78 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 88 90 92 93 94 95 Also taking offers on scroll, single and book from box as a set or per item
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There's a guy under the moniker WaysandMeans that I think wants to buy some from ya.Send him a PMHe's chatting it up over on the 16 thread. ;)
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Yep, it's a question without a good answer. Once you're gone, your stuff eventually dissipates whether your heir(s) care about keeping the collection together or not. If the first generation keeps it, the next won't. Or if they do, the one after that won't. So why worry about it? I say enjoy it while you can and let your loved ones know if something has particular value. My wife knows the box sets are out of print and sought after on eBay. She would probably sell them and give the dough to the Southern Poverty Law Center, my charity of choice. And now for 30 unheard (by me) shows, soon to arrive on my porch. This box probably has good resale value. That is, if you keep it all together like this: 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 Yee-haw!
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