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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #181
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by Thin on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 17:43

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2/22/69 Dark Star: @ 10:05 ...that moment your toes curl and you realize getting this box, despite the marital risk it poses has a higher payoff than you imagined. The Fillmore West Box from a week later has many such moments - this show really fits right in with that box, not surprisingly. They were just on - no wonder they decided to bust out the 16 track a week later and record a live album I intercepted the UPS guy the garage before he got to the kitchen door - phew! - tragedy narrowly averted. No one knows anything... mwahaha... .
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Submitted by Stegner on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 17:50

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Mine: 10/3/1976 Detroit, Michigan Scarlet sounds awesome -- can't wait for Wheel > Good Lovin > COMES A TIME > Dancin > NFA > Dancin > Around Eventually will listen consecutively from 66 to 95, but going to jerry pick to start out
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:04

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! ...and,no...patience has never been a virtue. The scene from A Christmas Story where the dad is in the basement cursing the hot water heater I think.... that's where I'm at...
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Submitted by wjonjd on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 17:56

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Has anyone been able to give you any info yet? Dead.net? Rhino? UPS?
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Submitted by saintstephen1971 on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 17:57

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PM me i know how to work out wherre your box is
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:05

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No e-mail,no UPS tracking,nothing.Like I mentioned before,I got a bogus delivery confirmation from DHL International. I NEVER get shit from DHL. Not to mention I went to pick it up and there was nothin' there. Given the 0% communication & quality control complaints,count me in on the nervous side of the fence.
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:07

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Where do you live? If your out of the U.S. I can tell you how to track it.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:21

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A little joke for me but,shit,Alaska even got theirs!;) Just joshin' Alaska. ;)
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:15

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Sorry man. U.S. is being delivered by UPS. International is DHL. I'd guess you'd get yours no later than Wed of this week. My order status is still back ordered on dead.net, but it has shipped through DHL. My shipping notice and a friend of mine who lives in the same area says exactly the same thing, yet his is estimated Fri and mine is estimated Mon the 18th.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:19

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fingers crossed.....
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:29

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Just so you know, I have not received any shipping info from anyone either. Just happened to read about UK heads getting emails from DHL about extra charges. So I went to the DHL website and ended up finding my shipment and a DHL waybill number. Otherwise I'd still not know anything.
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:50

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don't have 3 drinks on an empty stomach regardless of how goo da time you're having or how good you feel at the time. Pause, have something to eat fool.
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:58

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though I cut my finger while cutting the chicken helping the wife make dinner (honey, go snd relaz, I'll make dinner she says) OK dear, I'll be on the couch, listening to mucis...
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Submitted by direwulf on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:11

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Only desire is that the cd boxes where a little more robust without the need for the sliding. Oh well first world problems so no complaints! Backstage pass: 06-18-93 Soldier Field which is extraordinarily plain in design for a dead backstage pass, not the prettiest thing to look at but her daddy loves her! Ticket: 10-30-91 Oakland Coliseum Bring on the Dave's Subscriptions for 2016!
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:21

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According to Chastason listing a quote from Jeff Tiedrich there is some confusion regarding 'TIFTOO' and 'Caution' but it would seem likely they are from 11/10. 30 Trips time for 'TIFTOO' is 12:12 - Archive has it at 11:22, add some background/crowd noise and it works. The same could be said for 'Caution' - 30 Trips has it at 24:28, Archive lists it as 22:18 add extended musical notes/background noise and it too works. The one mystery is 'New Potato Caboose'. It's not listed on Archive for 11/10 but it is listed for 11/11 at 11:03. 30 Trips lists it as 11:29 so I think it's possible this was taken from the 11/11 show. Also Archive lists 'Feedback' as being played on the 11/10 show but it's not included on the release. However 'Caution' minus 'Feedback was played on 11/11 so who knows? In any case the 11/10/67 show is killer! Listen to this compared to the '66 show and the band's musical growth is nothing less than astounding.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:13

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Can someone tell me how to get a hold of Dr. Rhino or Marye. I'm missing disc 2 from the '75 show
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Submitted by ckcoffman on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:17

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1891 has landed in Massachusetts. The scene: the doorbell rings in the middle of dinner. I drop my vegan fajita and spill my Anchor Steam while jumping up from the table (no real worries--it was almost empty!). Neither my wife nor my UPS guy are complaining about the GD package, because she bought herself a huge box with a really heavy Dutch bike in it that got delivered at the same time. Perfect. Now the children are in bed, and the box is out: outside cardboard packaging has clearly been tampered with from bottom side. Thankfully all seems to be in order inside: no damage, all CDs & schwag are in place, etc. Red. not blue, interior. Ticket for 27 May 1993 and pass for 24 February 1995. Now if I can only get Peabody and Sherman to lend me that time machine ... Spinning disc 1 of '66, and it goes pretty darn well with the wine I'm having. Awesome sound (to my shredded eardrums via my mid-range set & Beyerdynamic DT 990s), and of course a great performance. I really hope those of you having trouble with this box get it all sorted out soon. I'll see you at Dead & Co.!
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Submitted by abrazen on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:23

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Got my box today in DSM, IA! Listing while I check all the disks for issues. I had issues with the first 90's box with wrong discs so I am checking all the discs closely this time. Sounds amazing so far! My box is blue inside and I got: 3/23/95 Charlotte pass 12/8/94 Oakland ticket All in all great box set so far and even better listening.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:41

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Like DaveStrang said...I Would love to know the best way for contacting Dr. Rhino. Have some major problems with the box. Amy H. at dead.net was great but would like to contact Dr. Rhino myself. Anybody got Dr. Rhino's e-mail address?
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Submitted by MidwayKid on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:34

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Since I did not get a Miracle Scroll. Which I would have been very happy to get. There are only two ways of getting one now. Keep buying sealed boxes on ebay hoping to get one. A lot of gamble in that play. Or hope someone puts a Miracle Scroll up for auction on ebay in time for the whatever the deadline is to send it in. I would like to see that happen. Can not even imagine how that would turn out. Would be interesting.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 20:08

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Wyoming, I can only laugh with you. How does Alaska receive a box before Seattle? Hell, the damn plane probably stopped here to refuel! Guess I'll pop in DP 30 and listen to it that pedal steel, sigh.
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 20:33

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I agree, that '67 show is a rocker. It's like Phil is channeling Jack Bruce. Part of Alligator from this show sounds like an edit used in the version from Anthem of the Sun.
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Submitted by Moses Quasar on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 20:52

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People are selling individual shows on ebay and the box is going for 12-1300 dollars!...Holy cow!!!
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 20:55

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The liner notes are interesting though: "Much like 1983, 1984 is often considered one of the lesser years in Grateful Dead History. There were a lot of lesser nights, but there were also some really good ones." -David Lemieux I agree, this 1984 show is a really good one. But couple that statement with the fact that many of the 80's recordings are of lesser quality sound-wise, and we begin to understand why Dave's Picks have been so 70's-centric. Just something to keep in mind.
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Submitted by David Duryea on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 20:56

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http://thegratefuldead.wikia.com/wiki/Anthem_Of_The_Sun Although the chaos of the final product makes it difficult to tell where many of the live excerpts used in the creation of Anthem Of The Sun actually ended up, significant fragments of "Alligator" (e.g. the post-vocals "jam section") known to hail from a show at San Francisco's Carousel Ballroom on 2/14/68. Also the "Alligator" vocal reprise is taken from 11/10/67 at the Shine Exposition Center. Similarly, the skeletal framework of "Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)" dates from the Los Angeles Shrine Auditorium show on 11/10/67 and at the Carousel Ballroom on March 31st 1968. Extended excerpts from two shows at Kings Beach Bowl in Lake Tahoe, CA on 2/23-24/68 that provided music for the album (most notably the car horn heard at the end of "Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)") were later released on the live archival recording Dick's Picks Volume 22. A further show from this period further reveals portions used for the album such as the verse(s) section of "The Other One" portion of "That's It For The Other One" as well as the first half of the "New Potato Caboose" jam (after the vocals) were used on Anthem Of The Sun, hailing from 3/17/68, was released as the Grateful Dead Download Series Volume 6.
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Submitted by Alain on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 21:47

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Hello David, I sent you two PM.
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Submitted by rdevil on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 21:51

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St. Louie, '71 at the Fabulous Fox Theater. Streamed this one weeks ago and couldn't wait to hear it on the big stereo. It sounds mighty fine. Yeah, Mamma killed a chicken, thought it was a duck, Put him on the table with his feet stickin' up --I'm guessing this about when Dantian cut himself-- Ain't it crazy, ain't it crazy Ain't it crazy one day to keep on rubbin that thing Half way through the '75 show which sounds great as well. I originally planned to listen in chronological order but I'm going by feel now. Up next? Whatever strikes my fancy!
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Submitted by rdevil on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 22:01

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The wife was pretty impressed even though this purchase was a hard sell with her originally. Hopefully that will bode well for future boxes. My box seems pretty sturdy despite the reports of some others. One of the full moons on the top is already rubbed off but that's small potatoes (as Hyman Roth would say). I'm disappointed with the slip sleeves. We paid $700+...Dave's Picks style digipacks should have been a no brainer. Still, these sleeves seem better than the sandpaper sleeves from the Road Trips series. The book is nice but seems awfully flimsy, like it will come loose from the binding at any time. For that reason I'll look at it sparingly. The two shows I've listened to sound REALLY great, and that's what really matters.
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Submitted by skeebe on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 22:52

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Well, after going through the rest I now have 2 disks that are very cracked. I have only burned the first show so far so I am definitely going to attempt to burn all of them before I contact customer service in case there happen to be some more bad disks in the lot. Getting replacement disks should be pretty standard I would think. I have not had to get something replaced in the past. Probably much easier to get handled than the folks who have broken box lids and whatnot. Anyone else ever had to get a disk replaced by Rhino?
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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 10/12/2015 - 22:53

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Finished sucking in first 15 shows, no problems (nothing obvious anyway). Will need to run thru idtagit and verify all labeling up to snuff. Will do a little editing on the segways between disc so it doesn't repeat a little from last disc when next disc starts.
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Submitted by mojobrojo on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 02:51

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I'm enjoying living vicariously through others who have already received their CD Boxes. Sorry to hear all the logistical and shipping damage stories though. I knew there was gonna be a slight delay with the USB version but I'm pretty sure we've moved beyond "slight delay" already and have moved on to "serious delay". I can't be bothered with listening to garbage MP3s being streamed over the InterWebs-- I need the actual, FULL-FLAVOR Audio I paid so dearly for! Where's my $700 USB Lightning Bolt?!?!?
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Submitted by One Man on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 02:59

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I don't see where any complete boxes have sold on eBay. Have they? I'll bet the market will bear only a relatively small markup, not 2x face value like most resellers are asking. Rhino seems to have predicted the demand pretty well this time.
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Submitted by boblopes on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 03:16

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Had one for one of the Dick's Picks series and had one in the May77 boxset. Both times replacements were shipped promptly and without incident. Customer service rep should be able to handle without issue...
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 03:23

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I've seen one set sell for $1100 U.S. Not double but not bad for only just shipped. And there are several more listed at various prices.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 05:41

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Thanks for the email address - I'm finishing checking the rest of the set before contacting the good Dr.
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Submitted by ppennock on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 05:51

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Boxilla has crossed the border and is on a DHL truck en route to my house in the Greater Toronto Area. $117 in duties / taxes. Should arrive today. Hmmmmmmmmm... sick day tomorrow to take in the box-y goodness and watch the Jays put down the Rangers??
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 06:41

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The box is a huge disappointment. My 4 year old loves it though. It is not in the same league as the 90's boxes, not even close. Everything is cheap except the tunes on those discs that are shoved in cardboard. No over the top touches what so ever. If your on the fence whether or not to buy this on the second hand market, dont. I try to stay positive with my comments, but this was a huge ball drop on Rhino/Deads part. I am glad my 4 year old gets to hide shit in the secret compartment. PS Doesnt a scroll have something besides paper and a shoelace? Isn't a scroll supposed to be semi-grand? 700 bucks............really. Shame on this production.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:32

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Thanks AMG for providing all the disc metadata for ripping. It would have been one hell of a chore to input all the data manually.
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Submitted by Mr. Jack Straw on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:41

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The book is really nice; not Europe '72 or 1st Spring '90 nice, but it's better than the little paperback we got from Spring '90 TOO. My wooden box arrived intact, seems sturdy, theres no missing panels or peeling artwork. I realize that there are many people who weren't so lucky, and I am sorry for you guys. It seems like it's the nicest box yet if you received an "error-free" set. I like how everything is easy-access (like the Europe trunk and May '77). If you want a show, just open the lid and grab it. If you want to flip through the book, just drop the panel. For the Hamptons, Winterland, and Spring '90 sets, you have to unpack everything if you want a show. That said, I agree that the cardboard cases are a bit flimsy, and would have liked the Spring '90 treatment for those. Given everything, it makes me realize how big a steal 22 multi-tracked Europe '72 show with a hardcover book and a steamer trunk was. $450 for that set. Meanwhile, we've paid $150 for 5 May 77 shows, $200 and $240 for 6 and 8 Spring '90 shows (at least they were multi-tracked), and $700 for 30 shows. Wow. Doing the math, the price per disc: Europe '72: $6.16 Fillmore West 1969: $7.28 (since everyone got the bonus disc!) 30 Trips Around The Sun: $8.75 Spring 1990 (TOO): $10.43 May '77: $10.71 Winterland '73: $11.11 Winterland '77: $11.11 Spring '90: $11.11 Formerly the Warlocks: $11.66
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Submitted by WarEagleRK on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:35

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Got it on Friday, went well with seeing Warren Haynes in concert that night. Thankfully everything seems to be in great shape. I've listened to the first 10 years. My inserts were the pass for Philly 3/17/95 and the ticket for Oakland 12/8/94. My box number from my scroll was 3816. I thought they did a great job with the packaging and keeping it secure. I will keep the CD's and likely put everything else out on ebay in a couple of weeks. If anyone is interested in just the box, vinyl, scroll, book and ticket/pass send me a message. Maybe we can work something out.
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Submitted by RV3 on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:42

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So far quite disappointed with the 1980s shows included here....the 1982 show setlist looked great on paper, but it is just not recorded well. There is a tape hiss throughout, and it sounds boxy. The 10/21/83 show again looked great as far as setlist on paper, but the sound is almost unlistenable....there is a nauseating "kick-drum" sound throughout the whole show. Dave's recording choices here are suspect at best, there are better recorded shows out there from 1982 & 1983, hell RT 4/6/82 & Dicks Picks #6 10/15/83 sound much better than these two shows....the 1981 show here doesn't have half the 2nd set included as a soundboard show...its an echoey distant audience recording. Dave doesn't like the 1980s, this has been obvious with his 15 of 16 choices for DAVE PICKS from 1970 to 1978.....but did he put some of the worse recorded shows form the early 1980s in the box on purpose!?!?
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Submitted by Mr. Jack Straw on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:53

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Wow. Someone complains for 4 years about the lack of 1980s releases. He is warned repeatedly; "the tapes don't sound that great...we're missing pieces...the cassettes aren't as good as reels". He screams conspiracy and bias. He maintains the Archivist hates the 1980s, which makes sense, as Dave must have seen his first show in the 80s, hated it, and never went to another show. He gets 10 shows from his favorite decade. Surprise! Some of the cassettes sound shitty and some shows require large audience patches. The normal, human response would be: "Oh, wow. I feel sheepish. I was so abrasive and rude for years! You know what? I should have listened to you people. Dave wasn't lying; there are some serious problems with 80s shows in the Vault. I'm really sorry for cursing, whining, and denigrating DL2 publicly for the last several years." Instead, this clown claims that Dave purposely searched the Vault for poor shows (for reasons unknown, but certainly vindictive and cruel). You know what you call such a person? Sad, lonely, and a troll.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 07:54

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I'm pretty sure Dave has a love for the 80's. I've heard him speak about it convincingly and with passion for years on Today in GD history. Besides.. I am not hearing the same complaint for Augusta, Miami and others which are '80's shows. Perhaps it has more to do with the condition of the cassette masters in the vault and problems with getting the re-mix exactly perfect as anything else. They had similar problems with the Dicks Alpine Valley '82 show and the '84 Shakedown on So Many Roads.
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Submitted by Mr. Jack Straw on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 08:08

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That sounds too reasonable. There MUST be a more diabolical reason. Sound quality issues have plagued every single release from 1981-1986, with the possible exception of DP 13. Either 80s tapes do have subpar sound and Dave is trying to find the best-sounding ones with decent performances, or he's PURPOSELY selecting shitty-sounding shows and leaving the pristine 80s tapes on the shelf. What do you think makes more sense?
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Submitted by AndLeaveItOn on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 08:08

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My Minneapolis delivery was Monday 10/12. -#2088 (no miracle) -blue felt -no missing CDs The only thing that wasn't just exactly perfect was the horizontal crack along the entire front of the wood case when I pulled it out of the box. Obviously UPS's doing and not Rhino. Otherwise everything looks great. I plan on listening in order, and got through a chunk of 7/3/66 on the way in to work today.
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Submitted by bliss on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 08:17

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on it's way to beautiful BC on Wednesday, but not before I cough up an additional $108. it'll have to wait for the Jays game to finish though. They haven't been this far in the playoffs since Jerry and the boys were still ripping it up.
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