30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 12, 2015 - 1:01pm

#1261

outpost

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Why The USB

As I've stated in previous posts, I have every official release, on CD and over 1,000 GD shows in flac, and when 30 trips was announced, I could've got the box, but the USB looked cool, and was in High Res. files (I upload all my CD's to Apple Lossless anyway), so that's why I went for it. I'm not gonna cancel it, but I believe we should get something more than an old backstage pass, for our troubles (even Amazon would treat you better than this !). I just subscribe to Dave's Picks 2016, so a deal there is out, but how about a USB of some classy '60's shows 2/21/69, 11/11/67 etc. Maybe then we will have something to smile about ! Until then, we have put up with endless comments about good the fu%^& box is ! Whoever it is at Rhino or Dead.net Customer Service, who is making the decision to NOT tell people what's going on, wants a kick in the nuts.Maybe they're trying to figure out how to make a $50 USB look like it's worth $700. Even if they dropped the price to $500, but still couldn't say when it would ship, would you buy it ? It's two months overdue, let's hope it doesn't become three.
November 12, 2015 - 12:58pm

#1262

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

Taper Section friend web and GD cultural implications

I think you're right, it probably had an affect, and not just on the tapers, but on the entire community. Sounds like a fine dissertation research topic to me. Let the scholarship begin!
November 12, 2015 - 12:40pm

#1263

mustin321

Joined:
August 12, 2011

GDM paying for their own tapes

They WILL actually pay to get their tapes back but its nowhere near the price that is usually requested. Dave always says they won't in his webchats, etc..but thats not exactly true. I forget where I read this...I'll try to find it after work...
November 12, 2015 - 12:01pm

#1264

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

@Charlie, @Gary

@Charlie, Yes, that was a very interesting article. Is that the one called "What's become of the Betty's?" I don't recall, but it was very informative specifically about the missing Betty Boards. I think many of us are hoping they've come to an agreement with that one hold-out owner, and are keeping it quiet to surprise us (that would be nice, wouldn't it?)! @Gary, thanks - I'm inclined to go with your memory, muddy or not, about 1987. I was never a taper at shows, but we usually got pretty crispy tapes from one of a few different folks (especially you Joel, if you're there!) shortly after the shows we went to, and we had friends that got some great sounding tapes. I was collecting tapes by 81, and when I didn't have a large collection at first, folks were very generous at sharing their favorite low-gen shows. God Bless them all!
November 12, 2015 - 11:55am

#1265

wjonjd

Joined:
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@Rbumkin - I do hope you find some of the '80's ones better.

Sorry about your experience with the '83 show. I hope you like the ones that come after better, really. Others here have already extolled the virtues of the '84, 87, 88, and 89 shows in particular. I'm very glad that I like what I hear in that show. The Music Never Stopped has plenty of energy (Phil is all over the place.) Jerry has plenty of creative licks everywhere (to my ears) in this show. The Cumberland is fantastic, and the Ramble on Rose smokes. In the second set, the Scarlet Fire is an excellent one, Playing goes interesting places, the Space is unique and goes places, etc. I wasn't familiar with this one before the box (I don't think), so I didn't look at reviews before listening to it (at least, I don't remember doing so), but it's nice to know that I'm not entirely alone: From Deadbase (John W. Scott): "A show that opens with Music Never Stopped, sigh. And they never lose their stride. Cumberland! A little fast, but hot hot hot, hot. Cassidy builds and builds, gaining tempo with intensity. Jerry pours out the notes at a breakneck pace. I keep expecting them to stumble at this pace, the jam is incredible.... the Scarlet was wonderful, one of the best versions that I have ever heard live. It was LONG ... and well jammed..." It goes on about the rest of the show in much the same manner. From the Taping Compendium, which includes MANY negative review for shows throughout 1983; this one was reviewed by Jeff Silberman, one of their most frequent reviewers: "Highlights: The Entire Show "... This show is most excellent, Deadbase ranks it one of the best of that year. The first-set song selection is top-notch from a raging "Music Never Stopped" opener to the smoking "Promised Land" closer. All the songs in between were well played, too. The second set features a dynamite "Scarlet">"Fire," the transition between which is exquisite. "Uncle John's Band" begins the second set proper and leads to a long and wonderful Playing. After the Drums, the highlight is the fine "Truckin'" Reviewers are just one person's subjective opinion, and my own are frequently different than in reviews I read. But, it's nice to know that I'm not entirely imagining things when that Cumberland rocked me out. Jerry is VERY present, and very emotional belting out the last parts of Rample On Rose. I could go on. I think that it is true that the recording is very dry and sterile - it doesn't have the hiss of the '82 show, but there is still a virtually complete lack of audience and a lack of anything to provide a 3D image; it's very clear, but is flat, two-dimensional. I think that can detract from the show, unless you automatically adjust your brain, so to speak, in the same way we used to for some iffy cassette recordings back in the day where you got to where you could automatically adjust without realizing you were doing it, and it was almost like you were at the show.
November 12, 2015 - 10:58am

#1266

Charlie3

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May 8, 1977 Cornell

I read a fairly detailed article in Relix recently that explained the May 8 Cornell tapes and a number of other Betty boards were purchased by third parties when the contents of the storage unit in which they were located were auctioned off in the mid '80s. That was apparently when a sizeable volume of the Betty boards began to circulate. The article states that the tapes are still in the possession of the third parties, who legally own the physical tapes but do not own the rights to the music and therefore can not legally release it commercially. The Dead justifiably don't want to pay to get their own music back and the third parties don't want to give the tapes back for free. If true, seems unlikely that there will be an official release of May 8, '77 Cornell.
November 12, 2015 - 10:57am

#1267

Gary Farseer

Joined:
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wjonjd

My memory is 1987. At times I was in the taper's section and got to know some of the folks. My memory seems to indicate that Betty swept through in late summer or fall 1987. However, I would not trust my memory 100%. Hope that helps clarify or muddle the situation. Some where around this time we also received the 3/25/66 Trooper's Hall tape. That was wild to get that. I know since we gravitated to taping very quickly, we spent inordinate amount of time in hotels making tapes. Would sometimes have the master of the night's show going and listening and trying to come down, while having another 4-10 decks going making other masters and making tapes everyone was bringing in to get each other copies. Man that was some fun times!
November 12, 2015 - 10:43am

#1268

rbmunkin

Joined:
February 24, 2009

1983

If the 1983 show is the best of that year, wow what a sad year! I forced myself to listen to the whole thing, but I suppose I'll never bother again. Even Jerry at his best in this show is lazy and repetitive. And Bob, his phony vocals make me ill. At this point, I could vote this as the worst Dead show I've heard. So far my feelings about the lame '80's are being born out.
November 12, 2015 - 7:54am

#1269

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

Tape trading/recording history

If you have or get the Taping Compendiums, volumes 2 and 3 each have great very lengthy articles in the early sections before the reviews start about tape trading, taping (including detailed and arcane information about equipment and the technology), and soundboards. I just noticed that they say the Cornell Betty tape started making the rounds in 1987. I don't know which is right, 1985 or 1987 - maybe someone can clarify this. Anyway, the compendiums are a lot of fun - lots of great information and reviews of every tape known about to the authors at the time they wrote them.
November 12, 2015 - 7:40am

#1270

wjonjd

Joined:
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Cornell - Nicholas Meriwether

Here's a great article that covers a little Cornell history by N. Meriwether: https://rockhall.com/story-of-rock/features/all-featured/7745_grateful-…

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Re: Re: box pix @ chastason

Actually, these pictures - ESPECIALLY the side views - are great, because now I can notice how cheaply the box was made. Look closely and you'll see a thin layer of wood veneer over a heavyweight cardboard. Your pictures really bring out the colors much more better in the artwork. I am positively impressed with your photography. Rating: A, not an A+ or an A-

'67

Wow on '67. I had cassettes of 11/10 and 11/11 from the early '70s, but having this so clean and remastered just amazes me. On to '68.....

Box Artwork wallpaper? What do you say?!?

I, for one, wouldn't mind if they were to post some wallpaper-sized, high-res versions of the gorgeous artwork adorning the Box Set. Nope, I wouldn't mind that one bit.

@keithfan

I have been trying very hard to stick to my chronological order of listening to these shows. (I did play '80 as a pallet cleanser after '66-'69.. I'm not perfect!) It's taken all I have to not skip to the '77 show, being my favorite year... and knowing that's also my favorite part of my favorite year. So your posts about it aren't helping. But I am glad to hear that I will really be in for a treat. Box photos: They seem to indicate your box got to Forrest Park completely unscathed. I don't even see any of the tiny flaws like mine has.

Child-proof box

It just occurred to me that I need to be focussing on where to put this box before I pick up my 3 year old son for the weekend today. Few delicate things are safe from a toddler, and the paint job on this monster just beckons to a kid.. looking like a toy box and all.

1967

A massacre ! The second concert of 30 Trips Around The Sun is a real killing. From the first title, Viola Lee Blues, I was on the knees. A force, a cohesion, a jam to break everything. A The Other One, nervous and full of energy. A really enjoyable Alligator. An inventive and unbridled Caution (part of which has also been taken on Anthem of the Sun). And all the rest… This concert of November 10, 1967 is amazing maturity. We frankly have trouble recognizing the 1966 group, the Dead evolved supersonic manner. Garcia is much more present than in 1966. If I had one day explain to someone what is an acid trip, I just tell him to listen Anthem of the Sun and this show.

Nice pics, very clear shots

I just bought an empty 30 Trips box,, now I need 30 GD releases that will fit in there. All the Road Trips, To Terrapin, 4.18.70 and 11.18.72 will fit nicely. Hopefully the 2 stash spots can come in use.. And I already know what 45 I am putting in the empty spot.. My newly acquired Sugar Magnolia/ Mr Charlie is going in there!! Sunshine Daydream !! Cover art on cd cases is ok. My vote would have been to do a Hundred Year Hall cover art theme. Always one of my favorites. Phil in the middle with his glasses Lol Bring on the Fillmore West 1970 Box - April 9 ! April 10 !! April 11 !!! April 12 !!!! And add *4.3.70 - Cincinnati as the bonus disc !!!!!

SimonRob

Great to see the box has arrived. Hope you have as much fun with it as I am. Cheers to a long great weekend for you!

Alain

I may try to spin your E72 show this weekend. Really want to hear it. Overloaded with tons of new dead. Man and a lot of it is virgin territory. How exciting indeed! Glad yours and others from around the world are getting theirs. Amazing!

@lowspark

I sent you a PM

Wow..

I agree, Alain, this Viola Lee Blues from 1967 is tremendous. I thought the version from 1966 was awesome, but this one is even better. Will be listening to these shows a few more times before moving on.

Group Mind

Everyone put forth positive vibes...let's help these folks get their 30 Trips. I mean it is time for everybody to be Dancin a ring around the Sun!

Dr Rhino Contact

Can someone give me the email or phone for Dr. Rhino? Disc one from the 94 show showed up with a nice crack in it, and Disc one from the 66 show scratched all up, looks like someone played some hockey with it. Contacted customer service but have not heard back from them yet, was suppose to get an email. Check those discs people, unfortunately not all the sets are Just Exactly Perfect

The Dr...

drrhino@rhino.com

@skeebe - 1972 Trip audio issue

Yes, mine has that same high-pitched whine around 4:00 into "Jack Straw" on the 9-24-72 show.

Feeling Fortunate

Another hour or so.. and I start my weekend which includes digging into this box. I hear you G. Farseer.. I would be jonsin' to get my grubby paws on the box too, if mine were stuck in postal limbo. May all (or lots) of the people that haven't gotten their boxes get them today. Perhaps they need to bring in Santa to deliver all remaining by dawn tomorrow.

Gary

Gary, Thank you for your post. My first concert was that of May 4, 1972. It was my first contact with the Dead. I wish you good listening! You tell me what you think.

Running Order of the USB

Just been listening to a friend's copy of 30 Trips, and noticed that songs have been moved around (presumably to fit on discs), and it made me wonder if the USB will have the sets in their correct order ?The question may've been asked already, but a can't be arsed to look through all the posts.

1972 audio issue

Thanks Tom H for the confirmation. I also just had a thought and checked the audio stream on the site here and it is present there too. At least it isn't just me. It only lasts about a minute so no big deal. I was getting ready to add it to my Dr. Rhino shit be messed up list.

the boxset

Just curious I just re-boxed the set after putting the discs in jewel cases, keeping the cases safe, and not worrying about which disc I pull. anybody else did this? also everybody else is talking about the show holders; mine looks black not the traditional stealie blue

1994 was the last great Help on the Way.Slipknot!.Franklins

But there were so many, which are your favorites For a complete list see http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2015/10/complete-help-on-way-histor… I prefer the earliest ones Era 1, 1975-1977, The Crown Jewels 1. 6/17/1975 Winterland Help On The Way (no lyrics) > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower; Only Instrumental Help; Closes Set 1 2. 8/13/1975 Great American Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower (Gold Standard); Early Bootleg Make Believe Ballroom; opens Show 3. 9/28/1975 Golden Gate Park Help On The Way > Slipknot!; Dirst Incomplete (One Set Show); Franklin's played later 4. 6/3/1976 Portland Help On The Way [5:01] > Slipknot! [13:04] > Franklin's Tower [11:04]; Set 2 5. 6/4/1976 Portland Help On The Way [4:26] > Slipknot! [10:59] > Franklin's Tower [11:38]; Set 1 a. 6/9/1976 Boston Standalone Franklin's Encore (My First Show); only standalone Franklin's encore in Grateful Dead history 6. 6/10/1976 Boston Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [7:28] > Franklin's Tower [10:24]; Set 2 7. 6/14/1976 Beacon Help On The Way [5:19] > Slipknot! [11:59] > Franklin's Tower [6:17#]; Set 2 8. 6/17/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:24] > Slipknot! [8:35] > Franklin's Tower [10:18#]; Set 2 9. 6/19/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:34] > Slipknot! [7:18] > Franklin's Tower [9:34] > (1) The Music Never Stopped [5:10] ; Opens Show Early FM Tape 10. 6/21/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:06] > Slipknot! [9:13] > Franklin's Tower [11:09]; Set 2 11. 6/24/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:10] > Slipknot! [9:50] > Franklin's Tower [9:42] > Samson And Delilah [5:55] ; Set 2 12. 6/27/1976 Chicago Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Magnolia; Set 2 13. 7/12/1976 Orpheum Help On The Way [4:32] > Slipknot! [7:44] > Franklin's Tower [14:11] ; Set 2 14. 8/4/1976 Jersey City Help On The Way [6:20] > Slipknot! [10:21] > Franklin's Tower [11:57] > Dancing In The Street [14#:01] > The Wheel [5:57] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] ; Set 2 15. 9/23/1976 Duke Help On The Way [#5:21] > Slipknot! [9:28] > Franklin's Tower [11:38] > Looks Like Rain [7:05] ; Set 2 16. 9/24/1976 William & Mary Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [5:51] > Drums [5:36] > Slipknot! [5:24] > Franklin's Tower [8:05] > The Music Never Stopped [5:49] > Stella Blue [7:29] ; Set 2 17. 9/27/1976 Rochester Help On The Way [4:54] > Slipknot! [7:33] > Drums [5:50] > The Other One [9:55] > Wharf Rat [10:39] > Slipknot! [2:21] > Franklin's Tower [17:32] > Around And Around [7:01]; Set 2, First Split; LONGEST EARLY FRANKLINS 18. 10/1/1976 Indianapolis Help On The Way [4:07] > Slipknot! [12:52] > Franklin's Tower [10:18]; Set 2 19. 10/9/1976 Oakland Help On The Way [5:14] > Slipknot! [5:32] > Drums [3:51] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] > Slipknot! [6:36] > Franklin's Tower [12:#25] > One More Saturday Night [4:31]; Set 2 20. 12/31/1976 Cow Palace Help On The Way [4:20] > Slipknot! [12:02] > Drums [0:50] > Not Fade Away [10:38] > Morning Dew [14:38]; Set 2 second Incomplete 21. 2/26/1977 San Bernardino Help On The Way [4:55] > Slipknot! [8:05] > Franklin's Tower [13:20] ; Set 2 22. 4/23/1977 Springfield Help On The Way [4:25] > Slipknot! [8:53] > Franklin's Tower [10:24] > Around And Around [6:49] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [8:49] > Not Fade Away [11:14]; Set 2 23. 4/29/1977 Palladium Help On The Way [4:43] > Slipknot! [8:39] > Franklin's Tower [15:50]; Opens Show 24. 5/9/1977 Buffalo Help On The Way [4:41] > Slipknot! [7:37] > Franklin's Tower [12:57]; opens Show 25. 5/22/1977 Pembroke Pines Help On The Way [4:58] > Slipknot! [6:44] > Franklin's Tower [15:12]; set 2, Dick's Picks 3 verison 26. 6/9/1977 Winterland Help On The Way [4:21] > Slipknot! [9:42] > Franklin's Tower [17:10]; set 2; 27. 10/11/1977 Norman Help On The Way [5:03] > Slipknot! [4:52] > Franklin's Tower [15:02]; opens show, goes on unexpected 6 year hiatus

I'm betting...

I'd bet we see another 30 trips sooner rather than later. Does the vault contain another show from all 30 years? I'd guess we've got stuff they could at least audience patch like they did with this one to get us another 30 shows. Hell, they made a few million off shows that wouldn't have been otherwise releasable in other formats. I don't see them waiting another 10 years or more for another box like this. Instead they can be clearing some stuff from the vaults while hanging onto the better stuff they have other plans for and bring in millions. That being said, what is disc rot? I haven't checked my whole box yet, doing that this weekend. I have bought thousands of CDs and stored thousands of burned CDs over the years and have never came across one that was bad or went bad over the years. What is this disc rot all about and what causes it?

some shows are worth revisiting...already

I have already found myself coming back to 2 shows ...many times: 1972.09.24 Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT 1979.10.27 Cape Cod Coliseum - South Yarmouth, MA For me it is not so much the set list or current members - they just sound great at these particular shows. I haven't really touched the 80's or 90's yet either so this list may grow.

Disc rot...

Best to just Google it, OE 800. You'll find lots of pictures. Some of my old CDs from back in the late 80s show some signs of disc rot. My old Europe 72 double disc has it in a few places and won't play. I have an old Bob Dylan bootleg, and if I look at it in the right light, It's hard to explain, but It looks like something was spilled inside the CD. Not sure if that's the beginning signs of disc rot too, but it won't play either. edit: I've noticed some of that "something spilled inside" effect in some newer CDs (at least 1 in 30 Trips), and they played..although they sometimes get a suspicious activity mark from EAC. It's really bad on the Dylan boot I have and that CD use to play just fine.

Disc Rot Cont…

Sounds like there may be a fungus among us that develops over time. I checked some of my 80’s disc’s and luckily no rot. Is it contagious?

Conspiracy!

Has anyone in GA or FL received their box? Why do the gods hate us? I thought for sure Mr. UPS would darken my doorway and thump my front porch with some precious cargo today but all I hear are crickets out there. What is a red-blooded southerner to do? At least I have some fresh (to me) Miles Davis to keep me company. But still...

1967

I'm listening that for the other one past morning dew andgood morning little school girlWhat can I say, this is the REAL, REAL, GRATEFUL DEAD!!! To me. Dr.rhino answered today to my mail. They will send a new case.... Whiteout dics They are really a good company,.. Not cable,electric, mobile phones...Lol Peace and rock on

Conspiracy!

I am pretty sure by now.. everyone has gotten their box except one man. No, seriously.. I feel your pain.. I do love a good conspiracy, but often there is a less fun, but rational answer. ..there is something wrong with getting this out all at once. It could be staffing, clearing out half a warehouse within a few days creates its own logistical problems. It also could be simpler. Perhaps there were production problems and the supplier could commit to half the inventory by x date and the rest by y date. But who knows.. what I do know is something doesn't make sense. Could also be the boxcutter bandit struck again and they caught it before mailing and rejected those. But something is weird and I do feel bad about those who don't have their box and me having mine. So without offending people from GA, FL and clearly WY, something is not exactly perfect and getting fixed. Only speculating.. but the reply jrf gave from Cust Serv tells me there is something we just don't know. Either that or there are 10 employees at the warehouse and they have reached their 40 hour limit and no boxes for anyone in GA, FL and WY. Or perhaps Vladimir Putin did in fact cut a couple thousand boxes with a soviet made boxcutter. We will never know for sure. What else could it be?.. but one man and jrf.. I think its worth the wait. _________ One edit: my bro, Luis! Great to see you.

Recent Topics

@ Alain - the 11/10/67 show and 'Anthem' would be a good place for anybody to start as far as understanding the GD and what they were about. @ Keithfan & Lowspark75 - that '77 show is as near perfect as we're ever going to hear as far as live GD. Everyone, including Keith can be distinctly heard in the mix. All around fantastic mastering job with the '77 show.

Contagion

Maybe one of my cd's caught disc rot from a DAT. Probably should have stuck with 8-tracks. Is there a cure though- where's Jonas Salk when we need him.

get well Phil!!

Just got the following email from TXR: 10/24 & 10/25 Phil & Friends Show Cancellation A Message from Phil: Dear Friends, I am sorry to let you know that I will need to cancel the October 24th and 25th Phil & Friends shows with Chris Robinson. I was diagnosed with bladder cancer in early October, and have spent the last few weeks at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale doing tests and eventually surgery to remove the tumors. I am very fortunate to have the pathology reports show that the tumors are all non aggressive, and that there is no indication that they have spread. So thanks to my local doctor Cliff Sewell, and the incredible team at the Mayo Clinic, all is well and I can return to normal activities in two weeks from my surgery. Unfortunately, that means I will have to cancel the PLF shows scheduled for Oct 24/25. We will reschedule these shows as soon as we can, but in the meantime, keep a lookout for a free Grate Room show before I leave for the East Coast shows. I also plan to pop in and jam in the bar before we leave, so I hope to see you there at Terrapin. Love Will See You Through.... -Phil PS Ticket refund info will be posted soon

To Save Our Bottoms

I realized that yes, the bottom of Boxzilla, while a really cool tree ring with an even cooler 'bolt, is also made out of a tough cardboard. To save from wear and tear, I put one of those little felt covered sticky circles on the bottom of the box near each corner. It sits atop stickies, thus saving its bottom. Just thought I'd share in the interests of others' bottoms. Sixtus EDIT: be well Phil

Tix and Passes

As requested, I asked whether the tix and backstage passes here are originals or reproductions. They are originals. Thank you.

Disc rot...

The type of disk rot my 2nd CD of 4/25/77 has looks like when a wet print gets smudged. The back of the CD is fine, but when you look at the silver side there's like a translucent "thumb print" on the inside of the outer edge of the clear plastic CD and won't play the last track. It's a 1/2 inch "wave shape from the outer edge of milky unplayable CD.

dear doctor...

no, not our friend dr. rhino. you see, i think i might have a problem. having grooved on the excellent '66 item from the magic box i've developed a taste for much more. naturally, the extraordinary, crisp and brilliant 2/25/66 ivar theater had to be next, but i'm by no means sated. i can see a week or two at least of inhabiting '66. if this is gonna be true of every year 'til '79, i'm gonna have serious issues. i have way more content to explore in those later years, and with 2000+ at least hours, what's a man to do? will i ever get to savour the brent years, let alone reach vince?

Thanks for the update

Thanks for the update Fishcane - I, and I'm sure everyone on this site send Phil our best wishes as well as a speedy recovery. I WISH AND HOPE FOR ALL THE BEST FOR YOU PHIL!

healing beams...

from me to phil, strive boldly dear friend...

Love to Phil

Send positive energy and love, and a box of rain, to ease the pain

Thank you MaryE!

Thanks for taking the time to clarify this for us!

2013 & 2014 30 Days Of Dead

I know this is unrelated especially in light of the news with Phil, but can anybody tell me if the 30 Days Of Dead for 2013 & 2014 is still available? I have 2010, 2011, and 2012 but missed out on 2013 and 2014 (I had medical issues going on). Any info is appreciated.

Phil - and 94,95

Prayers and thoughts out to Phil and his family! Please get well soon!! Finished 94 and 95. I really enjoyed the 94 show. Great set list, and the opening Help-Slip-Frank hits the spot, followed by Althea, cowboy tunes, Dylan, So Many Roads, etc. However, whereas the '93 show showed that Jerry could still be firing on all cylinders all night (love that show), in this '94 show it seems to me that although he is giving it all he's got, he just can't physically do everything he wants to do. I think it's one reason he pours so much into the ballads where he can reach emotional heights without as much reliance on consistently inspired guitar playing. The rest of the band makes the extra effort to provide some of the intensity that used start with Jerry. Love having this show though, and the sound is wonderful. In the '95 show, the issues with Jerry's level of playing continue what was seen in the '94 show. That said, I still very much enjoyed the show, and frankly, the second set is really really good (we can live with one Samba in the box, can't we?). The Drums-Space sequence is one of my favorites in the box, and the post drums section (just Johanna, Sugar Mag, and the encore) is very well played. In Sugar Magnolia, you can hear that Jerry is still more than capable of coming up with creative licks, and I enjoyed this version a lot. Overall, the '94 and '95 shows were better than expected they would be, and the '93 show was WAY better than I thought it would be (a truly great show.)

@Dave and 30 Days

You can still download both 2013 and 2014 Days from here I believe: http://www.endlessboundaries.com/free-download-30-days-of-dead-2014/

"You kids...

...quit poodling on my lawn!" - Mr. Richards {{{Phil}}}

Get well Phil

Big Love comin' at'cha

The Box has found it's way home.

Beautiful.Red velvet #1811 Ticket 1993-05-27 Cal Expo Pass 1995-02-24 Oakland Coliseum ...& one large serving of humble pie w/ a hint of crow. Thanks Doc. Get well Phil Fingers crossed for Georgia,Florida,Montana and any others pulling their hair out right now.

Tix and passes

Thanks for getting the clarification, marye. And since I'm the one who cast doubt in the first place, lemme just say: awesome! Thanks, TPTB!

Bottoms Up

That's a good idea, Sixtus_

Tix

Makes sense the tix are originals or they would have reprinted shows from the box.

Boxzilla

So, needless concerns aside, I want to let TPTB know: they really got it right with this box. The thing that I'm happiest about is that it gives equal weight to every phase of the band's career. I'm a Deadhead who likes all periods just about equally. I love garage band Dead just as much as primal, the Vince years just as much as the Keith years (or, at least, almost). I've even been known to defend '95 at times (the SLC stand is a prime example of why). I've long since resigned myself to this view not being shared by most, and so it hasn't surprised me that most releases have concentrated on the '70s. I can't even really criticize the exclusively-prime-years turn the Dave's Picks series took last year. That's what most fans want. But that's precisely what makes it nice that 30 Trips gives '66, '82, and '95 just as much love as '69, '72, and '77. You have to go back to So Many Roads to find another Dead release that did that. And So Many Roads completely changed the way I looked at the band. Anyway, count me happy that this box does what it does.

Thanks wjonjd!

I was able to download 30 Days Of Dead for 2014 but the link for 2013 gives you the 2014 songs again. I left a message on the site to that affect. Hopefuly they'll correct it so I can download the 2013 songs as well. Thanks again.

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