30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 25, 2015 - 8:24am

#961

wjonjd

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30 Trips mixing and mastering

i was informed by PM from someone who got info directly from an email from the powers that be that the mixing and mastering was done at 24/192. So that would be one modification to my description below. I don't think that would have much impact on the time involved. The rest of the description would still hold. Everything analog would have been digitized to 24/192. Everything digital would have been uponverted to 24/192, mixing and mastering processes performed on the files. Then for the CD's, a set of files would be converted to 16/44.1 with noise shaped dithering and hdcd encoded, and another set of files would be downconverted to 24/96. I think the likeliest reason for the delay (i have no idea but it would be nice to actually find out) might be that it was contracted for overseas manufacture, what they got was incorrect somehow (poor quality, missing files, mislabeled files, who knows) and that the lenghth of time to have them redone and shipped stateside again was high. That's my guess. I wonder if we will ever really know. I very much hope you guys get your music before the Christmas holidays :):)
November 25, 2015 - 8:10am

#962

purpleerik69

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hard to tell which trip is best....

but the one i really dig is....87 ! though it`s not the " epic " with " the usual suspects " - no DS , no Other one , no Scarlet - but the vibe , the feeling , the singing , the playing , you can almost see the audience dance and cheer....so that 87 is truly epic !
November 25, 2015 - 6:16am

#963

batzye

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USB WAV vs. FLAC

I believe wjonjd is correct, I left out the FLAC conversion. The exercise in math, however, did take my mind off this incredibly bad situation....
November 24, 2015 - 11:35pm

#964

jrf68@hotmail.com

Joined:
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Pappy's Thanksgiving

Feel like I won the lottery....Talk about an embarrassment of riches....just scored 2 bottles of 12 year old Pappy Van Winkle Special Reserve "Lot B" & 1 bottle of 10 year old, Old Rip Van Winkle. Pairs very well with 30 Trips.... This Thanksgiving I give thanks to being a very lucky man....in more ways than one. :) Happy Thanksgiving everybody. P.S.-I work for a small liquor store so I actually got it for what it is supposed to sell for,not the bullsheet prices most see it for.Now that I think about it,it resembles secondary market prices like DEAD stuff.Crazy P.S.S.-It's also officially ski season here.Whaaahoo!
November 24, 2015 - 11:32pm

#965

prafter

Joined:
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Go To Rhino Records, On Westwood Boulevard

An Internet Interlude for those of you with a sense of humor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKo8eW9HDSE WARNING: Offensive photo accompanies this 1 minute slice of weirdness
November 24, 2015 - 10:39pm

#966

wave-that-flag

Joined:
October 7, 2015

Bolt Bummer

I get this isn't an Altamont type debacle, but for those who dropped the bucks for a product that apparently hasn't been made yet, this isn't feeling like a Woodstock-type love-in either. I was thinking of buying a bolt. I'm a non-CD guy who loves streaming GD music. Kinda the ideal customer for this, but I'm thinking no way now. Am glad refunds are being given to those tired of waiting. On the upside, this did free up some cash to purchase an unopened'73 Winterland Box Set from Amazon at original pricing. So I got that going for me. Let me know when you're ready to download 30 Trips or somehow get this figured out down the road. For now, the 4 CD set is sounding fine to me. Till we meet again 30 Trips. No bolt for me for now. Always loved Rhino, so I'm surprised. Used to shop for years at the (now closed) Westwood Boulevard Rhino shop. Always a little sad when driving by still. Oh well.
November 24, 2015 - 9:33pm

#967

Vguy72

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Whew!!....

....and with Cornell '81, I have completed my thirtieth trip around the sun. It's like having a buffet of sonic selections with which to sate your appetite. Mmmm....mmmm.... ....all sound spectacular except Manor Downs '82 and Zenith '90. Texas has too much high end, and France sounds a little muddy. Other than that. Impeccable....I maybe would have added a small light on the underside of the lid that came one when the box is opened. That would be cool.... And to those who ordered the bolt. I would hang tight, and wait. Easy for me to say, that that little piece of tech may be a hot commodity in the future.
November 24, 2015 - 7:11pm

#968

Dennis

Joined:
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driving people out....

... I used to say, "I put The Residents on when I wanted people to go home". OK, my wife would leave too :-)
November 24, 2015 - 7:03pm

#969

wjonjd

Joined:
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RE: Here's the problem with the USB order

I saw the posts by batzye and sfrank115 and wanted to respond as well as I could. I did some actual conversions on GD files ripped from CD and then did some math to determine approximately what the size of the files would be that were coming on the USB. I'll explain how I came up with my numbers, but first wanted to point out that although batzye's numbers are approximately accurate, he is assuming that the 24/96 files they will put on the USBs are WAV's. I think that is highly unlikely. I believe they will use FLAC's as they are musically identical and because that is the format that dead.net/rhino have always used to provide hi-res files in the past as downloads. His numbers are also slightly high because I believe that there is between 73 and 74 hours of music, not the 77 he used. I could be mistaken about that, but it wouldn't matter as I didn't use time to do the calculations, just the number of bytes. I took one disc of live GD music in 24/96 WAV format and called it "A-W24" which was 2.53GB. This converted as FLAC (using highest compression level) was 1.46GB "A-F24", and as 320kbs mp3 was 184MB "A-MP3". I used these ratios in combination with the actual size of 30Trips (including the 45rpm tracks) to determine what the sizes would be for 30Trips. I used the actual number of bytes rather than the rounded Gigabyte figures to get as accurate a number as possible. 30Trips-W24 = 141.9GB (24-bit WAV) 30Trips-F24 = 81.9GB (24-bit FLAC) 30Trips-MP3 = 10.1GB (320kbs MP3) So, if they used the FLACS and MP3s it would be approximately 92GB. Even if I'm off by quite a bit due to variations - like let's say I happened to pick a disc of music that happens to FLAC compress much more than most for some reason, it would still easily fit on a 128GB USB stick. As far as the mastering processes that sfrank115 refers, I don't have any inside knowledge, but I do know that almost all digital mastering is done in either 24-bit fixed, or 32-bit floating specs, and at either 96khz or 192khz. Since the files are being provided in 24/96, my guess is that these are the specs they used during the mastering process. All of the shows that came from analog tape would have been digitized to 24/96 for mixing (if multitrack) and mastering. Shows that were recorded to digital in anything below 24/96 would likely have been upconverted to 24/96 so that the hundreds or even thousands of digital manipulations that can take place during mastering don't add noticeable quantization noise, which happens much more readily at 16-bits than 24-bits. The initial upconversion is a simple and quick process, and wouldn't add any noticeable timeframe to USB stick delivery. I don't believe that the music for Boxzilla was mastered at 16-bits - that would be highly unusual because even though the quantization noise level of digital music at 16-bits is still basically inaudible, the quantization noise added each time you do one of the hundreds or thousands of digital manipulations typical during mastering of the files can create noise that IS audible. This is one of several reasons why 24-bits is critical for mastering, even though I and many believe that when you convert the final product down to 16-bits, the final 24-bit files and the 16-bit files will sound the same to human ears. In any case, I believe that all the mastering and mixing was already done in order to complete the production of Boxzilla. I do not believe any further mastering of any kind would be required as they would already have the exact 24/96 files that they will be providing on the USB sticks. Therefore, I do not believe that any mastering or mixing issues, or anything having to do with any further work on the files beyond what they already did for the physical box, would have any bearing on the reasons for the delay in the USB stick. In fact, I think that AFTER they finished creating the exact files that will be used for USB stick, they needed to do a little extra work to create the CD files for Boxzilla including converting the files to 16/44.1. Disclaimer - I could be wrong about anything and everything above. I don't think so, though. :) Edit: I just noticed that they do actually state above that the files that will be provided on the USB stick will be in FLAC format, not WAV, at 24/96, so the 128GB size of the USB sticks is not a problem. Edit2: Once the USB sticks arrive, could someone post the actual total size of the combined FLAC files and combined MP3 files please?
November 24, 2015 - 6:32pm

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dallanW

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

1973 San Diego....MISSING DISC ONE!!!!

I had been waiting for the legendary 1973 San Diego show, going in order of the box set. I get in my car this morning to put in disc one and go for a cruise but, low and behold, DISC 1 IS MISSING!!! I'm so upset. I spent $750 for a box set with a missing disc. I contacted customer service who forwarded my complaint to the appropriate person. I'm told that I might not get a response back until next week. Are you freakin' kidding me??? Over a week to hear back? Signed, DEPRESSED AS HELL

Miracle Scroll

Much to my surprise, I scored a Miracle in NY. Any idea how many of these were issued? This box is insanely good...

Re: Film

I'm certainly glad they have more film.. I just wish they had more footage of the show. Two songs? At this point I am thankful for what we have.. I believe the scuttlebutt regarding the filming of the festival itself involves a camera and production crew that got into the kool aid, whether on purpose or by accident. Bet that put more than a couple people in a situation they were not prepared for...

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Now that we've got all the facts aired (again), I want to say that this pick was really the furthest thing from a travesty. There really are not any tracks out of order at all. What we got in DP4 was essentially the complete second electric sets from the late shows on both the 13th and the 14th, missing only the AWBYG encore from the 13th. The only deviations from this both-second-sets format are quite minor and reasonable: we got one extra (you might say bonus) song, Casey Jones, from the opening electric set on the 14th, intro'd by Zacherle. Laudable. The only other deviation is that the material from the 14th, while it is complete and in proper running order, is interrupted by the material from the 13th. That, IMO, was also eminently sensible: how else to get all this stuff onto three discs without glaring breaks in the jam segments? [I did weep (a little) that a disc break had to come between Dark Star and TIFTOO, because that is one of my absolute favorite segues in the band's performance history -- just synapse searing stuff; the audience silence and reaction mirrors my own slack-jawed admiration as those last gentle notes and a cymbal wash open a perfect instant where nothing can happen, no applause, no whoops or cheers from the crowd, just a microsecond of awe and... into Cryptical at which point the attendees can't hold back their glee any longer -- but given the limitations of CDs I don't think there was another valid option. I have long since edited the tracks together for seamless playback of the entire 13th second set.] DP4 is a fantastic release. We could only wish for more of the material that was played on both nights (a virtual impossibility given the state of thinking on what disc buyers would accept at the time of the release, for reasons pointed out below).

RE: funding project

Thanks for the link to donate to Kevin's new PC. Kevin has been doing great work for over 15 years in bringing lost GD video to circulation and freely sharing it with anyone that wanted it. He is a great resource and lavishes time on syncing the best source audio in circulation and the bits of video that circulate for the shows, often with crappy original audio. Mr. Tobin is one of the behind the scene faces that brings the past to life with his work that inspires and entertains us all. I'm proud to help him get a new workstation, so he can continue his personal quest in sharing rare GD video to the deadhead community. Check out his past work here. http://db.etree.org/ktvids

#1882

I haven't had the time to dig into the new box yet, but wanted to state my digits #1882 Ticket: 5/27/93 Pass: 3/22/95

DP 4

The release itself is one my favorites, a classic and a true giant. I don't think comments indicated the release was a travesty.. to the contrary, that it is so good it deserved full show treatment. The use of the word travesty was as much a play on the word itself and that it has come up on these threads a good bit over the last six months. I guess I am a completest and love the acoustic portions that have been released. My comments were more that I wish the whole shows (acoustic and electric, early and late - whatever exists) were released. There was also a good big of dialogue about the history of Dicks Picks, one disc vs. two vs. three, etc. that is pertinent. I wouldn't consider this a negative comment, or at least it wasn't meant as such. Hope that helps clarify.. Dicks 4 is special as were the shows themselves.

#243

Ticket stub: 10/27/91Backstage pass: 6/9/93 red velvet lining Everything is all there as far as cds and goodies. Scroll had some damage at the top of it. Not sure what happened here. It looks like someone had issues with rolling up the scroll. Like they had to force it or something. Must have got in a hurry. So far, I love I love this box. I held out on listening to the entire shows while waiting for delivery. The highlights so far for me have been the 4/15/70, 10/21/83, 10/26/89, 3/18/71, and 11/10/67 shows. I still have quite a bit left to dive into. Things are lookin good in deadhead land. Here in a couple weeks we'll have DaP16 from 3/28/73. Can't wait!!

Multitracks

I'm with Judysparty on this. Are the multitracks from this box 11/10/67 and 10/26/89? I've seen 10/26/89 noted, but the only other one that makes sense to me is 11/10/67?

Re: wurm

Yep, you have that right only two are sourced from multi-tracks; 11/10/67 and 10/26/89.

No ">" in the set

I've started ripping the discs to iTunes. So far, there are no ">" on the track listings, indicating that one song goes seamlessly into the next. I use those markings to join tracks, so that adds a lot of extra work. Would have been nice if they showed the ">"!

No ">" in the set

It is on the back cover of the CD sleeve.

@JimInMD

I think we agree completely there. Misinterpretation (one of my specialties!) does happen sometimes. Couldn't resist adding my own 2 cents to the only slightly-stale DP4 discussion.

No ">" in the set

Kayak Guy: I'm looking at 10/30/68. Per Deadlists, tracks 3 - 7 (Dark Star, St. Stephen, The Eleven, Caution, Feedback) flow seamlessly. No ">" on back cover. Maybe I'll see some as I continue ripping. OK, I see ">" for the 1969 set. So maybe they just missed 68.

USB Sticks Shipping Yet?

Heard a comment regarding the receipt of a USB "30 Trips" stick. Anybody know if these are being shipped? Anybody get one yet?

1968

Not a knock on the 1968 selection but it reminds me of Dick's Pick's Vol 2. Did the cats down at Rhino run out of the multi CD sleeves? I'm sure there were many meatier choices that they could have used for that year.

No ">" in the set

Good catch, corrected mine, but I think you meant 10/20/68

hallstallion

If your missing disc situation isn't getting resolved, lemme know so I can make sure someone's on the case. Thanks and sorry for the problem.

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Figure I throw this out,,, both these shows are available as a soundboard from Charlie Miller on the archive and you don't have that break between dark star -> That's it for the Other One.

Re: 1968

I waited with great anticipation to see what was coming from '68. I'm a little bummed to find out there is one CD devoted to '68, one of the very best years of the Grateful Dead in my opinion. I want my '68 boxed set. ;-)

1968

Yeah it does seem kinda blazed that a one disc show is what they chose to represent such an awesome year in the box, though the quality is certainly there it just seems really short. I second the 68 boxset, maybe some of those august shows!

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

...and the 50th Anniversary edition of DeadBase wants me to know that there is really no such thing as "the second electric set" on either the 13th or the 14th. There were late and early shows, but, per DeadBase, those late shows had only 1 electric set each. This is what happens when I open my mouth...

rrot Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

No I think that you were right in the first place & DeadBase is mistaken. On 2/13 there was an early and a late, but it looks like for the late show, the Dead played an electric set, an acoustic set, and a second electric set, if you look at the internet archive (I didn't go to 2/13, I went the next night, but just the kiddie show at 8, 'cause I was just a kid).

10/20/68

After reading several comments about this show, I agree that a longer show should have been selected. Yet, I am very happy with what was selected. About a month ago I listened to Live/Dead and this '68 show reminds me of that album very much. I now call this 10/20/68 show, "Proto - LIVE / DEAD" Maybe we will get treated to more, and longer, music from 1968.

ziffle!

Wha-??? You attended one of the 2/14 shows??? No wonder you're so vested in this! (The hits just keep on comin' on these boards...just waiting for a 4/25/69 or Big Rock Pow Wow attendee to chime in....) I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a single night. But I'd thought he was proven wrong with the emergence of some additional tapes in recent years (?)

1968

I'd love to see a 1968 boxset, theres plenty of multi night stands for them to choose from. And with Bear recording I'm sure the quality is top notch.

Actually,

Maybe I previously misrepresented what DeadBase is saying. To be scrupulous, they have put a note for each of these late shows, which says, on 2/14: "This is all one set" presumably referring to the acoustic AND electric material together. I guess the meaning of that might be: the band didn't leave the stage and take a break at all during the late show??? On 2/13 late show, the note even says, "China Cat through Lovelight is all one set. Monkey and The Engineer through Katie Mae are acoustic." I have not listened to the archive material. Can anyone comment whether there is obviously set breaks within the material? What I know of the "first electric set" on 2/14 suggests a *very* short "set" indeed. Maybe they did play these whole late shows without any breaks, electric to acoustic and back to electric?? Maybe that comports with Bear's recollection as well.

6/24/85

What an awesome and zany show this is, and excellent recording. I really love the groove they fall into during He's Gone > Smokestack > Cryptical. There's a quality to '85 Healy mixes that I really dig. He truly becomes the 7th member of the band. 3/20/92, the one show from the box I attended is a bit of a revelation of sorts. At the time, I thought it was a really good show, but compared them to the Richfield shows I attended the previous September in '91 as feeling like a considerably more laid back approach. Hearing it now, I've completely changed my view of this show, and it's even better than I remembered. I also checked out the '89 Miami show, and wow...way too awesome to comment on now. This should have been a stand alone release. Essential.

2/14/70

>>>>I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back >>>>and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time >>>>for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric >>>>sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a >>>>single night. Quick note - the 2/14/70 show seems to be 1hr 15 min 1st set electric, followed by a hour of acoustic, followed by 90 minutes of second set electric. There is an introduction before first set. There is a second intro before acoustic (by Zacherle) where from his comments I take it to be after midnight, since he mentions good morning and Sunday, the 2/14 show was a Saturday,,, so maybe Bear is wrong. Hell I can't remember yesterday half the time, so unless Bear is quoting from written notes.... :-)

6/24/85

"The lucky winner of the raffle... get's to hold the rhythm section hostage...." Great show!!

High Praise

Mitheral - Though was not what you meant, I'd say comparing the 1968 show in this box to Dick's Picks 2 is high praise - that is a nearly perfect release IMO. One disc of perfection, with a top Dark Star. Tonight I'm finally getting to said 68 show (taking my sweet time, in chrono order). Can't wait! I think what this 30 Trips box tells us, among other things, is: Hey folks, we have lots and lots of great stuff still in the vault!

Hey Dennis Wilmot - Bear mixed up his dates

Memory is tricky, but a trip to archive.org plus memory, plus the Google Village Voice archive answers the question. Bear mixed up a series of shows at the Fillmore and the Capitol Port Chester (and probably elsewhere) that were advertised as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead featuring the New Riders of the Purple Sage" - but those started in the late spring (5/15 Fillmore, I think). Some of these winter 1970 shows (e.g. 2/13 Fillmore, March Capitol) had a late show with a short electric set, a short acoustic set, and another electric set with more extended music (e.g. Dark Star/Cryptical etc. that's on DP4).

Dick's 4--2/13 and 2/14

What is on Dick's 4 is explained well in the Deadlists' writeups on this series of shows, including early and late shows. The Dark Star on DiP 4 is from 2/13 late show and transitions into TIFTOO. There is no cut or rearrangement. The 2/14 early show had a Dark Star>St. Stephen, not included on DiP 4.

5/15/70 NRPS - 9/17/70

5/15/70 was the first time the N.R.P.S. appeared in N.Y.C. I was at the early show as a long haired hippy punk of 16. The first time I remember seeing them as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead" was my next and third Dead show, 9/17/70. By the way a reviewer in Dead-Base 50 seems to have one of the nights for the February 71 Capitol Theater Dead shows mixed up. But then maybe its me who's mixed up. I like Mr. Ziffles take on the rearranging of song order during the February 71 shows. The gears are already shifting from the fall of 1970. Keep em guessing. Onward through the fog, Vote Oat.

2/13, 2/14/1970

I am beginning to think, much like Cornell, these shows might have either (a) not happened at all or (b) occurred on the same stage in Hollywood where they staged the moon landing a little more than six months earlier.

2/13 late enough for both Dark Stars to be 2/14?

what time did the late show start?

Apollo The Fake

Where do you think they got the idea for Standing On The Moon, huh?

Deadbolt Delivery

Is that my Deadbolt UPS attempted to deliver today, note on door 2nd attempt tomorrow.Could it be? Did the Boxzilla need signature for delivery? Anyone?

Surprised at the less than

enthusiastic comments for the '77 show in this box. I enjoyed it very much (well, at least the 2nd set from what I've heard so far). Only 2 days after the 4/23 Springfield show that was my "sleeper" pick for '77 (near and dear to my heart), I do hear some of those interesting (what I believe to be) Polymoog sounds most evident on the Playin' (such as on the 4/23 Slipknot!), that makes this an interesting pick. I would have chose 4/23, or (thanks Claney) 5/4 for the amazing Playin'>Comes A Time sequence, but feel this is a solid pick nonetheless. Perhaps with the wealth of Spring '77 shows already released, we've become a little spoiled?

69flyer

Thought they would arrive on Halloween(Built To Last release) note on door has me wondering if The Lightning Bolts are being shipped.

Spoiled? Perish the thought.

Spoiled? Perish the thought. I look forward to this 77 show. Only on 68 right now. Phil. God. Trying to do this in sequence. Lindley will be all the sweeter.

Anyone else here

guilty of the crime of burning one-disk "compilations" or "highlights" of shows? For example, this is what I did for 4/23/77 Springfield: Loser Scarlet> Fire Estimated Bertha The Music Never Stopped Help> Slip> Franklin's The above fits on one disc, and is an oh, so sweet disc, if I say so myself. I do this all the time, so sue me ;)

Still no box!

Has anyone else from Georgia had any luck with getting the box yet? Is anyone else starting to get irate about the wait? Marye - can you help with this at all?

I'm still without in Georgia too!

Very frustrating

SE Blues

I wonder whats up? Seems strange.. My guess is partial shipment was made to their warehouse and they are waiting on the rest. Either that or they caught the box cutter bandit but only after he slashed a few of the product, so they are waiting for them to be replaced. But who knows.. it does seem like something's up though. Probably not much you can do but wait.

Challenge

Burn that one disc as described below for 4/23, and tell me it isn't the best one disc of GD you've ever heard ;) This, or course, invites your own one-disc submissions (must be from same show) for our listening pleasure...

Challenge

I load mixed discs for the car. I am beginning to load flash drives though.. love the USB plug in that comes on the newer vehicles.

lundyw1 & novembereleven

Check your PM's.You've probably already tried,but if not.... :)

Jim

Mixed discs? You're blowing my mind, and going way beyond the scope of my premise. Multiple selections from different shows on one disc? You're stretching the boundaries there, my friend, and making a quantum leap before it's time ;) OK, I've done that too, but not often...

Not quite mixed discs..

but mixed flash drives, yes. For discs, I am doing what you are doing, condensing a three disc show to two discs or one disc. Something portable. I just got a new truck about six months ago that has a USB port that the stereo reads.. so I have one of those in that has about 15 shows. The problem is, it doesn't read ALAC's and I gave up on MP3's long ago.. so I have to go back in time to get any mp3s at all. or I can just plug my phone in.

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