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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
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dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

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shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

1973 San Diego....MISSING DISC ONE!!!!

I had been waiting for the legendary 1973 San Diego show, going in order of the box set. I get in my car this morning to put in disc one and go for a cruise but, low and behold, DISC 1 IS MISSING!!! I'm so upset. I spent $750 for a box set with a missing disc. I contacted customer service who forwarded my complaint to the appropriate person. I'm told that I might not get a response back until next week. Are you freakin' kidding me??? Over a week to hear back? Signed, DEPRESSED AS HELL

Miracle Scroll

Much to my surprise, I scored a Miracle in NY. Any idea how many of these were issued? This box is insanely good...

Re: Film

I'm certainly glad they have more film.. I just wish they had more footage of the show. Two songs? At this point I am thankful for what we have.. I believe the scuttlebutt regarding the filming of the festival itself involves a camera and production crew that got into the kool aid, whether on purpose or by accident. Bet that put more than a couple people in a situation they were not prepared for...

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Now that we've got all the facts aired (again), I want to say that this pick was really the furthest thing from a travesty. There really are not any tracks out of order at all. What we got in DP4 was essentially the complete second electric sets from the late shows on both the 13th and the 14th, missing only the AWBYG encore from the 13th. The only deviations from this both-second-sets format are quite minor and reasonable: we got one extra (you might say bonus) song, Casey Jones, from the opening electric set on the 14th, intro'd by Zacherle. Laudable. The only other deviation is that the material from the 14th, while it is complete and in proper running order, is interrupted by the material from the 13th. That, IMO, was also eminently sensible: how else to get all this stuff onto three discs without glaring breaks in the jam segments? [I did weep (a little) that a disc break had to come between Dark Star and TIFTOO, because that is one of my absolute favorite segues in the band's performance history -- just synapse searing stuff; the audience silence and reaction mirrors my own slack-jawed admiration as those last gentle notes and a cymbal wash open a perfect instant where nothing can happen, no applause, no whoops or cheers from the crowd, just a microsecond of awe and... into Cryptical at which point the attendees can't hold back their glee any longer -- but given the limitations of CDs I don't think there was another valid option. I have long since edited the tracks together for seamless playback of the entire 13th second set.] DP4 is a fantastic release. We could only wish for more of the material that was played on both nights (a virtual impossibility given the state of thinking on what disc buyers would accept at the time of the release, for reasons pointed out below).

RE: funding project

Thanks for the link to donate to Kevin's new PC. Kevin has been doing great work for over 15 years in bringing lost GD video to circulation and freely sharing it with anyone that wanted it. He is a great resource and lavishes time on syncing the best source audio in circulation and the bits of video that circulate for the shows, often with crappy original audio. Mr. Tobin is one of the behind the scene faces that brings the past to life with his work that inspires and entertains us all. I'm proud to help him get a new workstation, so he can continue his personal quest in sharing rare GD video to the deadhead community. Check out his past work here. http://db.etree.org/ktvids

#1882

I haven't had the time to dig into the new box yet, but wanted to state my digits #1882 Ticket: 5/27/93 Pass: 3/22/95

DP 4

The release itself is one my favorites, a classic and a true giant. I don't think comments indicated the release was a travesty.. to the contrary, that it is so good it deserved full show treatment. The use of the word travesty was as much a play on the word itself and that it has come up on these threads a good bit over the last six months. I guess I am a completest and love the acoustic portions that have been released. My comments were more that I wish the whole shows (acoustic and electric, early and late - whatever exists) were released. There was also a good big of dialogue about the history of Dicks Picks, one disc vs. two vs. three, etc. that is pertinent. I wouldn't consider this a negative comment, or at least it wasn't meant as such. Hope that helps clarify.. Dicks 4 is special as were the shows themselves.

#243

Ticket stub: 10/27/91Backstage pass: 6/9/93 red velvet lining Everything is all there as far as cds and goodies. Scroll had some damage at the top of it. Not sure what happened here. It looks like someone had issues with rolling up the scroll. Like they had to force it or something. Must have got in a hurry. So far, I love I love this box. I held out on listening to the entire shows while waiting for delivery. The highlights so far for me have been the 4/15/70, 10/21/83, 10/26/89, 3/18/71, and 11/10/67 shows. I still have quite a bit left to dive into. Things are lookin good in deadhead land. Here in a couple weeks we'll have DaP16 from 3/28/73. Can't wait!!

Multitracks

I'm with Judysparty on this. Are the multitracks from this box 11/10/67 and 10/26/89? I've seen 10/26/89 noted, but the only other one that makes sense to me is 11/10/67?

Re: wurm

Yep, you have that right only two are sourced from multi-tracks; 11/10/67 and 10/26/89.

No ">" in the set

I've started ripping the discs to iTunes. So far, there are no ">" on the track listings, indicating that one song goes seamlessly into the next. I use those markings to join tracks, so that adds a lot of extra work. Would have been nice if they showed the ">"!

No ">" in the set

It is on the back cover of the CD sleeve.

@JimInMD

I think we agree completely there. Misinterpretation (one of my specialties!) does happen sometimes. Couldn't resist adding my own 2 cents to the only slightly-stale DP4 discussion.

No ">" in the set

Kayak Guy: I'm looking at 10/30/68. Per Deadlists, tracks 3 - 7 (Dark Star, St. Stephen, The Eleven, Caution, Feedback) flow seamlessly. No ">" on back cover. Maybe I'll see some as I continue ripping. OK, I see ">" for the 1969 set. So maybe they just missed 68.

USB Sticks Shipping Yet?

Heard a comment regarding the receipt of a USB "30 Trips" stick. Anybody know if these are being shipped? Anybody get one yet?

1968

Not a knock on the 1968 selection but it reminds me of Dick's Pick's Vol 2. Did the cats down at Rhino run out of the multi CD sleeves? I'm sure there were many meatier choices that they could have used for that year.

No ">" in the set

Good catch, corrected mine, but I think you meant 10/20/68

hallstallion

If your missing disc situation isn't getting resolved, lemme know so I can make sure someone's on the case. Thanks and sorry for the problem.

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Figure I throw this out,,, both these shows are available as a soundboard from Charlie Miller on the archive and you don't have that break between dark star -> That's it for the Other One.

Re: 1968

I waited with great anticipation to see what was coming from '68. I'm a little bummed to find out there is one CD devoted to '68, one of the very best years of the Grateful Dead in my opinion. I want my '68 boxed set. ;-)

1968

Yeah it does seem kinda blazed that a one disc show is what they chose to represent such an awesome year in the box, though the quality is certainly there it just seems really short. I second the 68 boxset, maybe some of those august shows!

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

...and the 50th Anniversary edition of DeadBase wants me to know that there is really no such thing as "the second electric set" on either the 13th or the 14th. There were late and early shows, but, per DeadBase, those late shows had only 1 electric set each. This is what happens when I open my mouth...

rrot Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

No I think that you were right in the first place & DeadBase is mistaken. On 2/13 there was an early and a late, but it looks like for the late show, the Dead played an electric set, an acoustic set, and a second electric set, if you look at the internet archive (I didn't go to 2/13, I went the next night, but just the kiddie show at 8, 'cause I was just a kid).

10/20/68

After reading several comments about this show, I agree that a longer show should have been selected. Yet, I am very happy with what was selected. About a month ago I listened to Live/Dead and this '68 show reminds me of that album very much. I now call this 10/20/68 show, "Proto - LIVE / DEAD" Maybe we will get treated to more, and longer, music from 1968.

ziffle!

Wha-??? You attended one of the 2/14 shows??? No wonder you're so vested in this! (The hits just keep on comin' on these boards...just waiting for a 4/25/69 or Big Rock Pow Wow attendee to chime in....) I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a single night. But I'd thought he was proven wrong with the emergence of some additional tapes in recent years (?)

1968

I'd love to see a 1968 boxset, theres plenty of multi night stands for them to choose from. And with Bear recording I'm sure the quality is top notch.

Actually,

Maybe I previously misrepresented what DeadBase is saying. To be scrupulous, they have put a note for each of these late shows, which says, on 2/14: "This is all one set" presumably referring to the acoustic AND electric material together. I guess the meaning of that might be: the band didn't leave the stage and take a break at all during the late show??? On 2/13 late show, the note even says, "China Cat through Lovelight is all one set. Monkey and The Engineer through Katie Mae are acoustic." I have not listened to the archive material. Can anyone comment whether there is obviously set breaks within the material? What I know of the "first electric set" on 2/14 suggests a *very* short "set" indeed. Maybe they did play these whole late shows without any breaks, electric to acoustic and back to electric?? Maybe that comports with Bear's recollection as well.

6/24/85

What an awesome and zany show this is, and excellent recording. I really love the groove they fall into during He's Gone > Smokestack > Cryptical. There's a quality to '85 Healy mixes that I really dig. He truly becomes the 7th member of the band. 3/20/92, the one show from the box I attended is a bit of a revelation of sorts. At the time, I thought it was a really good show, but compared them to the Richfield shows I attended the previous September in '91 as feeling like a considerably more laid back approach. Hearing it now, I've completely changed my view of this show, and it's even better than I remembered. I also checked out the '89 Miami show, and wow...way too awesome to comment on now. This should have been a stand alone release. Essential.

2/14/70

>>>>I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back >>>>and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time >>>>for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric >>>>sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a >>>>single night. Quick note - the 2/14/70 show seems to be 1hr 15 min 1st set electric, followed by a hour of acoustic, followed by 90 minutes of second set electric. There is an introduction before first set. There is a second intro before acoustic (by Zacherle) where from his comments I take it to be after midnight, since he mentions good morning and Sunday, the 2/14 show was a Saturday,,, so maybe Bear is wrong. Hell I can't remember yesterday half the time, so unless Bear is quoting from written notes.... :-)

6/24/85

"The lucky winner of the raffle... get's to hold the rhythm section hostage...." Great show!!

High Praise

Mitheral - Though was not what you meant, I'd say comparing the 1968 show in this box to Dick's Picks 2 is high praise - that is a nearly perfect release IMO. One disc of perfection, with a top Dark Star. Tonight I'm finally getting to said 68 show (taking my sweet time, in chrono order). Can't wait! I think what this 30 Trips box tells us, among other things, is: Hey folks, we have lots and lots of great stuff still in the vault!

Hey Dennis Wilmot - Bear mixed up his dates

Memory is tricky, but a trip to archive.org plus memory, plus the Google Village Voice archive answers the question. Bear mixed up a series of shows at the Fillmore and the Capitol Port Chester (and probably elsewhere) that were advertised as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead featuring the New Riders of the Purple Sage" - but those started in the late spring (5/15 Fillmore, I think). Some of these winter 1970 shows (e.g. 2/13 Fillmore, March Capitol) had a late show with a short electric set, a short acoustic set, and another electric set with more extended music (e.g. Dark Star/Cryptical etc. that's on DP4).

Dick's 4--2/13 and 2/14

What is on Dick's 4 is explained well in the Deadlists' writeups on this series of shows, including early and late shows. The Dark Star on DiP 4 is from 2/13 late show and transitions into TIFTOO. There is no cut or rearrangement. The 2/14 early show had a Dark Star>St. Stephen, not included on DiP 4.

5/15/70 NRPS - 9/17/70

5/15/70 was the first time the N.R.P.S. appeared in N.Y.C. I was at the early show as a long haired hippy punk of 16. The first time I remember seeing them as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead" was my next and third Dead show, 9/17/70. By the way a reviewer in Dead-Base 50 seems to have one of the nights for the February 71 Capitol Theater Dead shows mixed up. But then maybe its me who's mixed up. I like Mr. Ziffles take on the rearranging of song order during the February 71 shows. The gears are already shifting from the fall of 1970. Keep em guessing. Onward through the fog, Vote Oat.

2/13, 2/14/1970

I am beginning to think, much like Cornell, these shows might have either (a) not happened at all or (b) occurred on the same stage in Hollywood where they staged the moon landing a little more than six months earlier.

2/13 late enough for both Dark Stars to be 2/14?

what time did the late show start?

Apollo The Fake

Where do you think they got the idea for Standing On The Moon, huh?

Deadbolt Delivery

Is that my Deadbolt UPS attempted to deliver today, note on door 2nd attempt tomorrow.Could it be? Did the Boxzilla need signature for delivery? Anyone?

Surprised at the less than

enthusiastic comments for the '77 show in this box. I enjoyed it very much (well, at least the 2nd set from what I've heard so far). Only 2 days after the 4/23 Springfield show that was my "sleeper" pick for '77 (near and dear to my heart), I do hear some of those interesting (what I believe to be) Polymoog sounds most evident on the Playin' (such as on the 4/23 Slipknot!), that makes this an interesting pick. I would have chose 4/23, or (thanks Claney) 5/4 for the amazing Playin'>Comes A Time sequence, but feel this is a solid pick nonetheless. Perhaps with the wealth of Spring '77 shows already released, we've become a little spoiled?

69flyer

Thought they would arrive on Halloween(Built To Last release) note on door has me wondering if The Lightning Bolts are being shipped.

Spoiled? Perish the thought.

Spoiled? Perish the thought. I look forward to this 77 show. Only on 68 right now. Phil. God. Trying to do this in sequence. Lindley will be all the sweeter.

Anyone else here

guilty of the crime of burning one-disk "compilations" or "highlights" of shows? For example, this is what I did for 4/23/77 Springfield: Loser Scarlet> Fire Estimated Bertha The Music Never Stopped Help> Slip> Franklin's The above fits on one disc, and is an oh, so sweet disc, if I say so myself. I do this all the time, so sue me ;)

Still no box!

Has anyone else from Georgia had any luck with getting the box yet? Is anyone else starting to get irate about the wait? Marye - can you help with this at all?

I'm still without in Georgia too!

Very frustrating

SE Blues

I wonder whats up? Seems strange.. My guess is partial shipment was made to their warehouse and they are waiting on the rest. Either that or they caught the box cutter bandit but only after he slashed a few of the product, so they are waiting for them to be replaced. But who knows.. it does seem like something's up though. Probably not much you can do but wait.

Challenge

Burn that one disc as described below for 4/23, and tell me it isn't the best one disc of GD you've ever heard ;) This, or course, invites your own one-disc submissions (must be from same show) for our listening pleasure...

Challenge

I load mixed discs for the car. I am beginning to load flash drives though.. love the USB plug in that comes on the newer vehicles.

lundyw1 & novembereleven

Check your PM's.You've probably already tried,but if not.... :)

Jim

Mixed discs? You're blowing my mind, and going way beyond the scope of my premise. Multiple selections from different shows on one disc? You're stretching the boundaries there, my friend, and making a quantum leap before it's time ;) OK, I've done that too, but not often...

Not quite mixed discs..

but mixed flash drives, yes. For discs, I am doing what you are doing, condensing a three disc show to two discs or one disc. Something portable. I just got a new truck about six months ago that has a USB port that the stereo reads.. so I have one of those in that has about 15 shows. The problem is, it doesn't read ALAC's and I gave up on MP3's long ago.. so I have to go back in time to get any mp3s at all. or I can just plug my phone in.

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