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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • cheyler196
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    Can anyone tell me why DVD-A is not the preferred format? One disc, one complete show, smaller space needed to store boxed sets, all you have to do is run your dvd player into a receiver and that's it.
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    Bush bad - Obama much much worse. Now keep your filthy unwelcome politics to yourself, we come here to escape the reality that a bunch of incompetent voters traded away our right to maintain our own health care system.
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    can't wait to get this box and listen to it in chronological order, choosing era-appropriate drugs for each show - lots of psychedelics for the 60s, maybe some grass and ludes for the early to mid-70s, followed by some blow for the late 70s stuff, graduating to crack for the 80s, and finishing up with ecstasy and other synthetics for the 90s. bring it on!
  • cheyler196
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    Ah well, that's the way I understood it anyway. If I'm wrong about something I don't mind finding out about it.
  • Edwin
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    No, it makes you a 9.2857143 e-07'er! given that there's more than 7 billion people, most of whom won't get it.
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    You should really check out these two links. The first is a youtube video put by xiph audio engineers, the second is a long article that you should check out in its entirety when you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Also, I should preface my remarks by pointing out that this has nothing to do with mp3 or any other lossy file format. It is referring to lossless, whether compressed lossless(like flac) or uncompressed lossless (like wav). mp3's are clearly inferior - the question being addressed is whether standard 16/44.1 is inferior to 24/96 or 24/192. If you think the answer is yes, you should really check out both links. Although within the video this is mentioned, it is not emphasized, even though I think it is the most important point. What he shows on the video is that, as long as only frequencies below 22,050hz are being sampled (band limited at 22,050hz), then an audio wave of any complexity sampled at 44,100 times per second yields a series of discrete samples where ONE AND ONLY ONE curve (the sound wave) passes through each point. You can draw a different curve through all the points, but it can proven that ANY deviation from the original would mathematically compel the original to include frequencies ABOVE 22,050hz. Since we know that we excluded all those frequencies, only the original (source) curve is correct. The job of the analog to digital converter is to recreate this original curve. Unless you are an infant or a bat, you don't, and will never, be able to hear or detect frequencies of 22,050hz or higher anyway. The video does a good job of explaining what 16-bits means. Most people don't know. The different - the ONLY difference between audio sampled at 16, 24, or even 1, bit(s) is the level of noise (exactly equivalent to tape hiss) that is produced by the digitizing process. In other words, it affects the dynamic range of softest to loudest sounds that can be encoded. 16-bits (especially dithered) has a wider dynamic range than exists on any of your music recordings. I have seen people wishing for higher than 16-bit files of recordings made prior to the early '80s. Well, reel-to-reel has a MAXIMUM dynamic range that is equivalent to about 13 bits. Casettes have a maximum of about 7, but were usually in the range of 4-6 bit equivalent in dynamic range. You can never get what was never in the recording to begin with. Even the most perfect reel-to-reel of, say, Dark Side Of The Moon, can NEVER be improved by adding more than 16-bits, because the ORIGINAL RECORDING never had more than 13-bits of dynamic range. Modern digital recordings, even though they are professionally created with 24 or even 32 bits, still don't utilize more than 16-bits of dynamic range. One key thing to keep in mind is that the audio situation is NOTHING like the video situation - using terms like high-def or high-res to compare what is happening with audio with what is happening with video is a complete misunderstanding - they shouldn't be using the same terminology and here is why. In video, high def gives more information to your eye. The more pixels, the higher the resolution, the better the image - the better the OUTPUT of the system sending information to your eyes. That is NOT true in audio, but it's a little complicated why. In hi-def AUDIO, there ARE more samples (creating larger files), HOWEVER, your EAR is never given any additional information because the digital to analog converter recreates the EXACT sound wave that was used to create it. In effect, 16/44.1 is LOSSLESS. This is only true if the sampling rate is at least twice the highest sound frequency being digitized. But, that's not a problem, since you CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING at above 20khz. So, the OUTPUT that the digital to analog converter creates, the SOUND WAVE that is created is EXACTLY THE SAME as if the converter was given 92khz sampled file. The only difference between a 44.1kz file and a 92khz file is the the 92khz file can properly encode all frequence in the range from 0 to 48khz, and the 44.1khz file can only properly (losslessly) encode frequencies from 0 to 22khz. Who cares? The range from 22khz to 48khz is INAUDIBLE TO YOU AND ALWAYS WILL BE - COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IN EVERY WAY UNDETECTABLE BY YOU. If you think otherwise, you should contact a university science department immediately as they may want look into using you as a secret weapon or somehow or other. In any case, check out both links. Or don't, because it is perfectly fine enjoying what you think you are hearing also (that's not sarcastic, seriously.)
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    We've all heard about various bands that were true originals and 'opened the door' for others to walk through...NYDolls, Pistols, GD and others. The Dead held the door open for decades and no one walked through. A couple stumbled through but fell on their faces. Nothing else like them to this date. All the other bands that claim to have been inspired or influenced are, really, just crap (for lack of a better word). My opinion, if you haven't guessed, is that it's all contrived quasi-hippie bullshit.
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    It's hard to generalize about mp3s. They are not created equal. I would challenge anyone to hear the difference between a well converted 320kbs mp3 and a CD quality FLAC. These listening tests have been done over and over and it appears that a vanishingly small number of people can tell the difference with any statistical significance. Of course, that assumes a playback system that can represent the resolution. In a car, iPod, boom box, etc., all bets are off. I listen to 320kbs mp3s (or AACs) most of the time through my Grace Design/McIntosh/Avalon system and it sounds amazing. Lower than 256kbs and it sounds like dog doo. Even 256kbs mp3s are a bit dodgy. As far as the analogy goes, it's not a good one. Nyquist proved that decades ago. You only need two samples per frequency interval to perfectly reproduce the waveform. Not adequately, but perfectly. Higher resolution buys you nothing and if you go up too high, you can end up with intermodulation distortion in the audio band. 60khz is about perfect, but of course, we have a jump from 48khz to 88.2. As an audio engineer, I'm usually doing 88.2 these days. But 44.1khz honestly sounds really good with the right converters. Of course, I would never condone reconstituted FLACs, WAVs, etc., from mp3s being passed along by traders as full resolution.
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    Damn right.
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    The best way I've heard it described is to think of a photo in the newspaper. It's all made up of dots (or used to be anyway). Looking at it from arm's length it looks pretty good. Look closer and closer and you can see the dots that make up the picture. With mp3, you can 'hear the dots' much more easily than you can with flac. There are many different types of files, some lossy and some not. Starting at the bottom and working upward, each has more information than the last. That's about it. There's just less information included which is why mp3s are so much smaller than flac. I don't get the mp3 thing, unless it's something that can't be procured any other way...and they're a huge liability for traders. I'd rather burn up GBs at a faster rate than get ANYTHING in mp3. They are the bane of all existence, although still not approaching the level of George Fucking Bush.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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95 is excellent, recommend that next. Best Foolish Heart, Jerry's vocals solid. I guess these aren't HDCD? 1970 is incredible, check out Candyman. HDCD or not, the audio quality is superb on the 60s and 70s shows.
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Space I'm putting together a best of early Brent, but don't know much other than Dead Set and Nassau. Can you PM me some absolute dessert island performances of the big ones? I'd be happy to do the same for 70s if interested. On my list I have so far: Feel Like a Stranger DaP 8 Jack Straw / Franklin's Tower Nassau Playing / UJB also Nassau Iko/Blow Away/Standing Crimson. WHite & I was there Hell in a Bucket Dozing Throwing Stones DP 27 Greatest Story Dead Set Short list, I'm looking to expand. If you know better ones I'm all ears if you have time. Thanks
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Don't really mind waiting on the box to get here because at this point after reading some of the problems people have had I will be very satisfied if my box is in good (undamaged) condition when it arrives. No box cutter cuts, no scratched or broken or missing discs, no loose panels. What a nightmare. You'd expect more quality control on a box this expensive. I feel bad for those who have experienced damaged boxes on arrival, and I hope Rhino is able to make everyone's order 100%.
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An admirable venture. Wasn't DP27 from '92 though? That would be post Brent... right? Am I missing what your compilation was supposed to be all about? There's probably some tasty nuggs on DP5. Oakland '79. And the '79 Trip has some good Brent. Easy To Love You, for one.
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Definitely agree with DP5, especially that Second set Uncle John's > Estimated > (Brent has an awesome B-3 presence at the start of the jam segment) > Caution jam (!); also the double encore is great too, with good Brent licks: Shakedown > Uncle John's reprise. Absolutely NOT to be overlooked though is the '79 show from Big Boxzilla, the second set start Dancin'> Franklin's is All-Time - that transition is phenomenal! There are also some Monster shows from Nassau, Philly and Buffalo in late Oct/early Nov with some great Brent... Happy Friday in Deadland to All! Sixtus
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You should watch Brents last show, and in my opinion include The Weight from this one. His last lyrics sung are downright cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI51n6d0R8k You can skip the Picasso Moon, but Jerball really nails it. ***Does anyone know who Voodoonola is*** That guy is the vault for GD video online
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Opened the link for KeithFan and clicked to where I thought the encore should start. Took me right to the beginning of the lyric, She said, "I got to go but my friends can stick around." Chilling.
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I am listening to '79 from Boxilla right now, and I just came to that unbelievable transition that you mentioned! No coincidences are there! AWESOME! Rock on
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Great project Keithfan. Lowspark and Sixtus are right - DP5 is an awesome release (not least because it is one of the rare early Brent releases from a reel instead of a cassette master). Also - the Bobby Sands He's Gone from DP13 (1981) is my favorite version of that tune, from any era. No early Brent compilation would be complete without it :) EDIT - just for you Bolo! : Can't wait to get to the Cape Cod 79 show in the Box. But I'm sticking to my Chrono-Guns so far. I have that on an old CDR but haven't heard it in years, so it will be almost like a new show to me. But yeah, I remember that Dancin. Whoo boy.
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I have so far listened to the last 20 shows except 79. The shows recorded by Dan Healey and John Cutter seem a bit flat on the whole. I've listened to them on several cd players and when I play them on the cd player in my toyota or my old bose wave they really sound poor. In our other car or on my stereo they sound ok. There are some do sound good to ok like 89, 91,92,85 93 or 84. The two(78-77) that I've played recorded by betty sound excellent every where. I understand why Dave has stayed away from this period.
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And onto 1973. 1972 is good, but not um, remarkable... I mean, I like 1972 but after you've heard E72 Trunk, and the E72 2-cd set, and a few others... well.... you've heard 1972. Don't get me wrong. Fantastic set, long set, lots of songs.. but to me each show in 1972 is a record studio recording and I have trouble distinguishing them all after a while. My favorite is 5/26/1972... and as far as the song changes, I prefer 5/26 over this september one just for nostalgia i guess. But it's all the same. Just that this one has no Pigpen. I also prefer the 1971 GSET to the 1972 GSET. I love the pump song remnants in the 1971 version. Well, finishing second run through disc 3... then it's on to 1973.
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Healys live sound was head in shoulders above John Cutlers in my opinion, Cutlers sound was sometimes ridiculously low. Healy could make a stadium sound decent. Never saw a live show before Healy but its obvious Betty had the best ears for the rooms she was in. Kidd and Bear were no slouches either. I have also read that during a show, many people were at the board working together. Patches are needed sometimes because the soundboard operator had multiple duties (stage runs because of Parish or Ramrod needing something etc) as well as running sound. Oh shit the tape ran out......whoops. Translation of a live room to tape is tough, but I think Betty got it pretty right when I hear a bettyboard and then look at a pic of the room. Kidd Candelario has said a lot about his practice of taping the band in those years, which illuminates how they thought of it: "I wasn't taping for the sake of taping, but only so that the band could listen to the tapes later on. I was either working with Keith or Phil's bass. Sometimes if I wasn't doing anything, I could listen to the taping, and this allowed me to hear problems that were happening, like a blown speaker or something wrong with someone's pickup. So lots of times I'd have to run back and fix something, which meant the tape might run out while I was away from it. This accounts for many of the cuts and missing music out there. But then there's always the problem of when to change the tape..." an article here: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/07/bear-at-board.html
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Who Are We? Went to see Tedeschi Trucks Band Wednesday Night. IMO, they may be the best touring music unit on the planet now. Go see them. Wore my 1987 Ventura County T-shirt to the show. Show was made up of some old timers (casual - I mean folks into their 80's), old timers (sportsters with their blazers, the folks who worshipped money too much when they were young and now realize they missed a lot of action), old and young hippies and freaks. As I am walking in I spot 1 guy and 2 girls all dreaded out. The guy was probably 19 and the girls maybe 16 and 18. We smile and waive as I am walking in. The guy is giving the traditional dead finger wave. So I go back and talk for a minute. They are looking for that miracle and selling some home made jewelry. So I am feeling groovy and kind, so I go to the ticket booth. Find out 3 tickets for the balcony were $36 (total not apiece). So I go back to them and tell them if interested I will buy them 3 balcony tickets. They turned me down. Said that have an after party to go to. Huh? They were not interested. Just do not understand. You look the part, asking for the miracle; but then you reject the offer. Now to be fair, they never heard the ticket price. They also stated they did not want 1 person to have to buy all 3 tickets. As I walked away I said 3 times - the tickets are cheap, cheap. Oh well. Missed a blazing show. TTB had Cedell Davis and Brethren open. Mr. Davis is one of the last of the old timer blues guys born in 1927. The Brethren came out and played a couple of down and dirty blues songs, very intense. Then they wheel Mr. Davis out in a wheel chair with full suit and tie on. He was incredible. It was so fun to see an old blues guy get his turn. The crowd was very appreciative. Gave him multiple standing ovations. You could see it was moving to him. Thank you Susan and Derek for bringing him along. He even went to his merch table and signed autographs and shook hands. Shook his hand and said thanks so much! I love how music has retrenched. Love that TTB was in a 2,000 seat concert hall. It was awesome that the Brethren were in the halls having a beer talking to folks in between sets. So much better than a stadium or even an arena. I would say the average age of the crowd was close to 60, wow. Went and saw Yes in this same hall 2 years ago and the average age was closer to 70. Truly the wheelchair and crutches crowd. Hope I can still make it when I am that old. Awesome Awesome night. European and Australian heads TTB is heading your way. Go see them. Support Live Music! Fortunately Susan and Derek are well grounded. They know how to party and keep it all in check. Being around Derek's Uncle and Greg Allman, they have warned of the pitfalls of the lifestyle. So since they appear well grounded, they should have a long time making music for us. Susan was phenomenal, Derek was of course Derek. I now understand why he left the Allman Brothers to focus on his band. Salute Derek Salute! Oh yeah, got to spend time talking to Derek's dad (Butch Trucks brother). Passed a message on to please tell Butch and Greg to not retire ABB until their 50th in 4 years. He said he would pass it on. Very nice guy. I snuck into the hall around 2 pm. I spoke with him the first time then as he was just finishing lunch and was setting up TBB merch table. Great family vibe. Wierd, the sound engineers were doing sound check, but the band was not there. Sound check using live tapes of the band to measure the hall's accoustic response. Very interesting to see that. Got to speak with the FOH engineer for a few minutes after the show. Should have taped, what was I thinking. Oh yeah, had a young head ask me about the shows in Ventura. He had gone to Santa Clara. He was probably 21. Gave him my number, told him to call sometime. Show review link: http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/10/tedeschi_trucks_band_…
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No UPS choice date and no dead net ship (still says backordered). Ordered within three hours of announcement on 2 Jun (3+17 to be exact) so it can't be shipped in order of order dates. Just send an update that it will ship in a week, two weeks , a month or even next year. Communicate please
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....i do get your point. Having seen - well estimated - 300 plus shows since 1982 ( everything from Crosby, Stills, Nash to Pink Floyd , Deep Purple, Neil Young , Warren Haynes , even Moe ) i still travel up to 400 miles to see a gig i like to see. My lady does come with me whenever she wants to but not so does my son - i had tix for Santana open air this summer , he had nothing better to do but he just said" i don`t feel like ". You are right , Derek Trucks is a magician of his own , catched the TTB live some two years ago in Munich , they smoked and had lots of good vibes......and still i hope for Phil or/and Bobby to cross the ocean once again. Btw, todays listening was 92 - beautiful DS - very fine piano , very athmospheric , have to relisten agin....
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72 is a very diverse year with many different sounding incarnations. The fall of 72 is perhaps the absolute apex of this great band. They are firing on all cylinders and just killing it night after night. Some of my all time favorite shows are from the fall of 72. Dick's picks 11,23 and 36 are insanely good. Dave's 11 is otherworldly, The Hofheinz PITB, I could go on and on. It's my favorite tour. Contrast that with the insanely dialed in band that took Europe by storm and put down one of the best runs any group has ever had or ever will have. Totally different sounding band with PIG still layin it down and providing organ and harmonica. ANY show from the fall of 72 has my immediate attention! HA. I didn't get the box but I would love to hear the 72 show from it one day.
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I ordered the USB. No word yet. When I got the ‘delay’ email in September, I figured, well OK I waited this long, what’s the difference. But I got charged the $700 and now have no surety when it will get shipped. Getting charged with no transparency as to why/when is what bugs me. The people on the phone are nice, but by what they say they think the streaming link should keep me satisfied. I’m not set up for streaming on my main system. That may sound odd for someone who ordered the USB, but that’s the way it is. So a bit of a downer for something that I was on the fence about ordering anyway…. On a better note, the best Donna harmonizing I know is UJB 5-19-77. Done really well.
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The discussion here got me to wondering, so I went through Boxzilla and here is how the credits for recording breakdown: Rex Jackson = 1 - '71 Kidd Candelario = 2 - '73, '74 John Cutler = 3 = '89, '94, '95 Betty Cantor-Jackson = 3 - '75, '77, '78 Bear = 4 - '66, '69, '70, '72 Dan Healy = 16 - '67, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '90, '91, '92, '93 The '68 show is credited to the Grateful Dead Thems the facts so make of them what you will Rock on
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A couple small nits from the 1st third of the big box, a couple small errors in the lists/notes. For, 1966 they claim Minglewood as a GD song when it is most definitely a cover, be it Noah Lewis or Cannon's Jug Stompers/Traditional. For 1969, they list Disc 2 as track 2. St. Stephen > 3. The Eleven Jam. It's clearly the full Eleven. The lyrics actually start on track 2, then there is a jam at the start of track 3, and then more Eleven lyrics in that track, before going into Lovelight. For 1975, no attribution to Matt Kelly on harmonica on Music Never Stopped and BIODTL and he can clearly be heard. Just some small stuff, but errors for certain. No detraction from the enjoyment to be sure, but claiming a cover as yours and not crediting another musician who played on the tracks are certainly mistakes of a sort.
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FWIW, I also got charged the full amount well before the Box shipped. I got the delay email, then in September got charged anyway, with no real notification of when it would ship. A couple days before it arrived I did get a 'your order has shipped' email from GD site. Don't know if this matches other people who got the box or not, but just wanted to let you know this charged/no idea when shipping thing happened to people who got the box as well. It was probably 3 weeks or so from the charge to the arrival.
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Waiting for the stick, I feel your pain with lack of communication. On the other hand, when I check my order on the site, it still says backordered expected ship date 10/31/15. So maybe they think that is sufficient in the communication department, only they undermined themselves by getting a lot of boxes out to people earlier than what I understand the check order info had on the site for the boxes. Halloween is only 8 days away now. But if Dave's 16 arrives before the stick, I would consider that a rather large fail on the part of friends here. PATIENCE, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue. ~Ambrose Bierce (1842 - ?)
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Going back a few topics because I just woke up.. I also listened to the '79 from boxzilla last night at work.. that's the "'79 Trip" i was referring to when addressing keithfan's playlist. Reading it again, I realize it might have been interpreted as the '79 Road Trip.. which I've never heard. I did, however, forget to put the third disc of the '79 show on my phone, so I only got to hear 2/3 of that show last night... D'oh!
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Interesting about your son. I guess in some way there are so many entertainment avenues today that music is not as popular as it was 25-50 years ago. Might be they look at it as too much work, not enough reward. I do not know. I do know that music "seems" to have brought people together in the past and "seems" to drive people apart today. Part of the incredible niching out of artists and radio, etc. I think I saw a headline over at Jambase that Phil has already played at the Crossroads. So hope he is up and progressing. Go Phil!
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1. 1978 - 5/14, Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI2. 1991 - 9/10, Madison Square Garden, NY, NY 3. 1972 - 9/24, Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT 4. 1970 - 4/15, Winterland, San Francisco, CA 5. 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX 6. 1979 - 10/27, Cape Cod Coliseum, South Yarmouth, MA 7. 1967 - 11/10, Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA 8. 1966 - 7/3, Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA on deck: 1976 - 10/3, Cobo Arena, Detroit, MI 1981 - 5/16, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 1971 - 3/18, Fox Theater, St. Louis, MO 1974 - 9/18, Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France
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Sounds non-confrontational enough.. The rule being best or most favorite show from the box in descending order? How long do you think it will take before we agree on the definitive order?
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The reason that some of us don't have our boxes yet nor an email that they have been shipped, or even been manufactured yet is that those of you who already have boxes are performing the quality control. All typos, missing discs, etc should be fixed on our box sets. Thanks for your work.
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"When it comes to product testing, our customers come first!"
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Ahhh...4/15/70!!! Like a breath of fresh air. The Good Ole Grateful Dead my friends.
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I saw a lot of responses to my post this morning about putting together an early Brent era compilation. Work had me by the scruff today, so I'm just getting a chance to read them. I really appreciate the feedback, thank you. I'll let you know how it goes this weekend. WharfWhitney - yeah, Candyman sounds really really nice. I've been raving about it - one of the unexpected surprises of Boxzilla. Peace KeithFan
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Somebody lamented that there was only 1 disc from 1968 -- its an awesome show, but I understand the sentiment for one of your favorite years. Am loving the 4/25/77 show, but its only 2 discs (although action packed)! There should be at least 5 discs for 1977 lol. Wish they had gone twice around the sun that year . . .
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Hot, intense, exhilarating and not nearly lasting long enough. Pretty much like my first couple years in college.
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Sorry for the double post, Fruedian slip I guess!
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It was Spring of 1993 and I was 19, sitting far from home in a campground outside Atlanta, GA. We had travelled from home (Chicago) to our first road trip Dead shows and were killing time with the other Heads in the campground. From someone's speakers came an unknown bootleg with Jerry running blistering solos, filled with delicious wah pedal across Sugar Magnolia. It was like nothing I had ever heard and lit up my mind. It was incredible and so unlike their current sound and yet so clearly Jerry and the Dead. I remember the guitar climbing and climbing, so early and primitive but so badass and jamming. All I could think of was electric mountain music. Almost 23 years later, I remember that song and that moment and out of so many years of tape and CD collecting I haven't run across anything quite like it...until this morning. On the way to work, working my way through the 1971 show, here comes Sugar Mags and Jerry and that scorching wah pedal. I smiled for hours after that. I don't know how to else to describe it as finding something special I had lost long ago. So a big thank you to DL and the Rhino team and most of all to the band, for giving me those bookend moments 23 years apart. That alone was worth the money. As for Brent - it's not early but Minglewood on Road Trips 4.2 (April Fool's Day) is as up front and in your face jamming organ as I have heard. He was in his prime at that point. Also, try to pick up the Hunter Seamons matrix of 2/27/1981 from Chicago. Not only is the sound amazing but Brent fills and accents the band so well throughout the whole show. He brings a sublime sound to Scarlet-->Fire that makes it one of my favorite shows ever. Just wanted to share something that made my day. Hope you all get the same soon.
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At least that's what I used to call it. You're right, Drshakedown, the volume was ridiculously low those last couple years. I don't think it was too bad on the floor but if you were on the sides or any balcony or upper level forget it. Other people's conversations could be heard clearly; that's something that should not happen at a concert. I still remember seeing tons of people standing or dancing with their hands cupped behind their ears to hear better. And there were several shows with loud crowd chants of, "Turn it up! Turn it up!" Sorry for the negative post, it's just something I hadn't thought about for a long time. In an effort to be more positive: Here's to Dan Healy and the great work he did.
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Great story, Sawyer. I love hearing stories about that moment of discovery. And very cool you were able to experience it twice, 23 years apart.I've been glad to see a couple folks out there mention the '71 show. It's been my favorite so far (skipping around). I wouldn't call it the best, necessarily, but it exceeded my expectations and surprised me a bit.
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...listening to '71. Thats a really good Cumberland! Great stuff so far. I wonder if this show and 4/15/70 are from the Mountain Girl tapes? Thoughts?
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Am I missing something in the box? I got: The CD's, book & 45...
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The Scroll is in the secret compartment at the bottom of the box, just (carefully) flip down the bottom flaps on the bottom of the box. The scroll is in between the jelly-roll of confederate hundred dollar bills and what appears to be an ill-placed bottle of Visine. Its already become the place I hide shit from my gf. Very cool box.
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No shit! Awesome I just found it thanks!
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....Jim! Has your bus made it to Detroit yet? 'Cause Cobo is a-waiting brother!....
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You ain't kidding... That 76' Cobo show has an awfully nice vibe to it... Absolutely beautiful.I love the fact that this box has something for whatever mood I'm in. I also like having the streaming option still open even though I now have the discs. The streaming is great for when I feel like jumping around on a moments notice...
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,,,,,in the old days there was just music ( on vinyl , casette or radio ) and TV , my friends and me met to listen to music and talk about it , eventually we drove to gigs. Some of us fell apart , some stayed on the bus. I had the luck to have a lady who understands my kind of trip, even likes most of my music. Our boy likes " my " music too , he got loads of old songs including many Dead tunes on his ipod but still he doesn`t like the effort to drive to a gig. So it seems that you are right , has to do something with availability. What makes me laugh is his comment when he saw Boxzilla first " Wow cool, what an effort they made"and the he asked me "aren`t that the songs you all know ? "He seems to be right - it`s me who is a bit crazy after all these years, a yes , i dream on for Phil and Bob to play a summer tour of Europe in 2016.....
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if you are in area stop by and check out the shops. Lots of cool stuff going on today. keithfan2112 check out Keith on organ, a rare treat and sort of Weird. 10.23.73 - Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower -> Jam -> I Know You Rider (Keith not on organ, but very nice)
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"LoveJerry ... I guess these aren't HDCD?" Yes, these are HDCD.
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Grab a magnifying glass and check out the newspaper article reprint inside the Copps Coliseum '92 show to find out... (there's no shame in being a wacko, is there? ....just askin'.)
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uhhmm , quite difficult , first i have to put on my reading classes as the size is not made for " older still long haired post 69 hippies in a coat of well behaving " like me.....
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Evidently, you get some kind of gold record with your name engraved. I'll let you know when it arrives.
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Good news. Just received the following email last night:"Dear Mags72, We have sent out a replacement box set today, via UPS. You should receive your delivery by Monday, October 26. I am very sorry for the delay and thank you for your patience. If you have any questions, please let me know. Sincerely, Dr. Rhino (on behalf of Dead.net)" Hopefully that means the other folks waiting are getting their boxes soon as well. Not sure what they mean by replacement box, as that would imply a previous box had been sent and got lost in the mail. But whatever, I'm just stoked to get anything at this point.
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@ Mags72 - I am happy that you're finally getting your 30 Trips CD box. You gotta check out your scroll. I'm just guessing that you're gonna get a "MIRACLE" scroll. You send that winning scroll into the Warner Music Group c/o "Dr. Rhino" aka Mark Pinkus, and .... EVENTUALLY, SOMETIME you will get a gold record award. Lucky you!
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