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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #181
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:37

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95 is excellent, recommend that next. Best Foolish Heart, Jerry's vocals solid. I guess these aren't HDCD? 1970 is incredible, check out Candyman. HDCD or not, the audio quality is superb on the 60s and 70s shows.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 05:10

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Space I'm putting together a best of early Brent, but don't know much other than Dead Set and Nassau. Can you PM me some absolute dessert island performances of the big ones? I'd be happy to do the same for 70s if interested. On my list I have so far: Feel Like a Stranger DaP 8 Jack Straw / Franklin's Tower Nassau Playing / UJB also Nassau Iko/Blow Away/Standing Crimson. WHite & I was there Hell in a Bucket Dozing Throwing Stones DP 27 Greatest Story Dead Set Short list, I'm looking to expand. If you know better ones I'm all ears if you have time. Thanks
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Submitted by efter on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:04

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Don't really mind waiting on the box to get here because at this point after reading some of the problems people have had I will be very satisfied if my box is in good (undamaged) condition when it arrives. No box cutter cuts, no scratched or broken or missing discs, no loose panels. What a nightmare. You'd expect more quality control on a box this expensive. I feel bad for those who have experienced damaged boxes on arrival, and I hope Rhino is able to make everyone's order 100%.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:12

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An admirable venture. Wasn't DP27 from '92 though? That would be post Brent... right? Am I missing what your compilation was supposed to be all about? There's probably some tasty nuggs on DP5. Oakland '79. And the '79 Trip has some good Brent. Easy To Love You, for one.
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:34

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Definitely agree with DP5, especially that Second set Uncle John's > Estimated > (Brent has an awesome B-3 presence at the start of the jam segment) > Caution jam (!); also the double encore is great too, with good Brent licks: Shakedown > Uncle John's reprise. Absolutely NOT to be overlooked though is the '79 show from Big Boxzilla, the second set start Dancin'> Franklin's is All-Time - that transition is phenomenal! There are also some Monster shows from Nassau, Philly and Buffalo in late Oct/early Nov with some great Brent... Happy Friday in Deadland to All! Sixtus
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 07:11

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You should watch Brents last show, and in my opinion include The Weight from this one. His last lyrics sung are downright cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI51n6d0R8k You can skip the Picasso Moon, but Jerball really nails it. ***Does anyone know who Voodoonola is*** That guy is the vault for GD video online
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 07:42

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Opened the link for KeithFan and clicked to where I thought the encore should start. Took me right to the beginning of the lyric, She said, "I got to go but my friends can stick around." Chilling.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 08:04

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I am listening to '79 from Boxilla right now, and I just came to that unbelievable transition that you mentioned! No coincidences are there! AWESOME! Rock on
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Submitted by claney on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 08:15

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Great project Keithfan. Lowspark and Sixtus are right - DP5 is an awesome release (not least because it is one of the rare early Brent releases from a reel instead of a cassette master). Also - the Bobby Sands He's Gone from DP13 (1981) is my favorite version of that tune, from any era. No early Brent compilation would be complete without it :) EDIT - just for you Bolo! : Can't wait to get to the Cape Cod 79 show in the Box. But I'm sticking to my Chrono-Guns so far. I have that on an old CDR but haven't heard it in years, so it will be almost like a new show to me. But yeah, I remember that Dancin. Whoo boy.
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Submitted by rodrigodiaz on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 08:25

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I have so far listened to the last 20 shows except 79. The shows recorded by Dan Healey and John Cutter seem a bit flat on the whole. I've listened to them on several cd players and when I play them on the cd player in my toyota or my old bose wave they really sound poor. In our other car or on my stereo they sound ok. There are some do sound good to ok like 89, 91,92,85 93 or 84. The two(78-77) that I've played recorded by betty sound excellent every where. I understand why Dave has stayed away from this period.
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Submitted by brianhahne on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 08:53

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And onto 1973. 1972 is good, but not um, remarkable... I mean, I like 1972 but after you've heard E72 Trunk, and the E72 2-cd set, and a few others... well.... you've heard 1972. Don't get me wrong. Fantastic set, long set, lots of songs.. but to me each show in 1972 is a record studio recording and I have trouble distinguishing them all after a while. My favorite is 5/26/1972... and as far as the song changes, I prefer 5/26 over this september one just for nostalgia i guess. But it's all the same. Just that this one has no Pigpen. I also prefer the 1971 GSET to the 1972 GSET. I love the pump song remnants in the 1971 version. Well, finishing second run through disc 3... then it's on to 1973.
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:45

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Healys live sound was head in shoulders above John Cutlers in my opinion, Cutlers sound was sometimes ridiculously low. Healy could make a stadium sound decent. Never saw a live show before Healy but its obvious Betty had the best ears for the rooms she was in. Kidd and Bear were no slouches either. I have also read that during a show, many people were at the board working together. Patches are needed sometimes because the soundboard operator had multiple duties (stage runs because of Parish or Ramrod needing something etc) as well as running sound. Oh shit the tape ran out......whoops. Translation of a live room to tape is tough, but I think Betty got it pretty right when I hear a bettyboard and then look at a pic of the room. Kidd Candelario has said a lot about his practice of taping the band in those years, which illuminates how they thought of it: "I wasn't taping for the sake of taping, but only so that the band could listen to the tapes later on. I was either working with Keith or Phil's bass. Sometimes if I wasn't doing anything, I could listen to the taping, and this allowed me to hear problems that were happening, like a blown speaker or something wrong with someone's pickup. So lots of times I'd have to run back and fix something, which meant the tape might run out while I was away from it. This accounts for many of the cuts and missing music out there. But then there's always the problem of when to change the tape..." an article here: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/07/bear-at-board.html
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:47

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Who Are We? Went to see Tedeschi Trucks Band Wednesday Night. IMO, they may be the best touring music unit on the planet now. Go see them. Wore my 1987 Ventura County T-shirt to the show. Show was made up of some old timers (casual - I mean folks into their 80's), old timers (sportsters with their blazers, the folks who worshipped money too much when they were young and now realize they missed a lot of action), old and young hippies and freaks. As I am walking in I spot 1 guy and 2 girls all dreaded out. The guy was probably 19 and the girls maybe 16 and 18. We smile and waive as I am walking in. The guy is giving the traditional dead finger wave. So I go back and talk for a minute. They are looking for that miracle and selling some home made jewelry. So I am feeling groovy and kind, so I go to the ticket booth. Find out 3 tickets for the balcony were $36 (total not apiece). So I go back to them and tell them if interested I will buy them 3 balcony tickets. They turned me down. Said that have an after party to go to. Huh? They were not interested. Just do not understand. You look the part, asking for the miracle; but then you reject the offer. Now to be fair, they never heard the ticket price. They also stated they did not want 1 person to have to buy all 3 tickets. As I walked away I said 3 times - the tickets are cheap, cheap. Oh well. Missed a blazing show. TTB had Cedell Davis and Brethren open. Mr. Davis is one of the last of the old timer blues guys born in 1927. The Brethren came out and played a couple of down and dirty blues songs, very intense. Then they wheel Mr. Davis out in a wheel chair with full suit and tie on. He was incredible. It was so fun to see an old blues guy get his turn. The crowd was very appreciative. Gave him multiple standing ovations. You could see it was moving to him. Thank you Susan and Derek for bringing him along. He even went to his merch table and signed autographs and shook hands. Shook his hand and said thanks so much! I love how music has retrenched. Love that TTB was in a 2,000 seat concert hall. It was awesome that the Brethren were in the halls having a beer talking to folks in between sets. So much better than a stadium or even an arena. I would say the average age of the crowd was close to 60, wow. Went and saw Yes in this same hall 2 years ago and the average age was closer to 70. Truly the wheelchair and crutches crowd. Hope I can still make it when I am that old. Awesome Awesome night. European and Australian heads TTB is heading your way. Go see them. Support Live Music! Fortunately Susan and Derek are well grounded. They know how to party and keep it all in check. Being around Derek's Uncle and Greg Allman, they have warned of the pitfalls of the lifestyle. So since they appear well grounded, they should have a long time making music for us. Susan was phenomenal, Derek was of course Derek. I now understand why he left the Allman Brothers to focus on his band. Salute Derek Salute! Oh yeah, got to spend time talking to Derek's dad (Butch Trucks brother). Passed a message on to please tell Butch and Greg to not retire ABB until their 50th in 4 years. He said he would pass it on. Very nice guy. I snuck into the hall around 2 pm. I spoke with him the first time then as he was just finishing lunch and was setting up TBB merch table. Great family vibe. Wierd, the sound engineers were doing sound check, but the band was not there. Sound check using live tapes of the band to measure the hall's accoustic response. Very interesting to see that. Got to speak with the FOH engineer for a few minutes after the show. Should have taped, what was I thinking. Oh yeah, had a young head ask me about the shows in Ventura. He had gone to Santa Clara. He was probably 21. Gave him my number, told him to call sometime. Show review link: http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/10/tedeschi_trucks_band_…
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Submitted by drpryan on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:50

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No UPS choice date and no dead net ship (still says backordered). Ordered within three hours of announcement on 2 Jun (3+17 to be exact) so it can't be shipped in order of order dates. Just send an update that it will ship in a week, two weeks , a month or even next year. Communicate please
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:04

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....i do get your point. Having seen - well estimated - 300 plus shows since 1982 ( everything from Crosby, Stills, Nash to Pink Floyd , Deep Purple, Neil Young , Warren Haynes , even Moe ) i still travel up to 400 miles to see a gig i like to see. My lady does come with me whenever she wants to but not so does my son - i had tix for Santana open air this summer , he had nothing better to do but he just said" i don`t feel like ". You are right , Derek Trucks is a magician of his own , catched the TTB live some two years ago in Munich , they smoked and had lots of good vibes......and still i hope for Phil or/and Bobby to cross the ocean once again. Btw, todays listening was 92 - beautiful DS - very fine piano , very athmospheric , have to relisten agin....
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Submitted by Ridin that Train on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:30

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72 is a very diverse year with many different sounding incarnations. The fall of 72 is perhaps the absolute apex of this great band. They are firing on all cylinders and just killing it night after night. Some of my all time favorite shows are from the fall of 72. Dick's picks 11,23 and 36 are insanely good. Dave's 11 is otherworldly, The Hofheinz PITB, I could go on and on. It's my favorite tour. Contrast that with the insanely dialed in band that took Europe by storm and put down one of the best runs any group has ever had or ever will have. Totally different sounding band with PIG still layin it down and providing organ and harmonica. ANY show from the fall of 72 has my immediate attention! HA. I didn't get the box but I would love to hear the 72 show from it one day.
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Submitted by caution21470 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:48

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I ordered the USB. No word yet. When I got the ‘delay’ email in September, I figured, well OK I waited this long, what’s the difference. But I got charged the $700 and now have no surety when it will get shipped. Getting charged with no transparency as to why/when is what bugs me. The people on the phone are nice, but by what they say they think the streaming link should keep me satisfied. I’m not set up for streaming on my main system. That may sound odd for someone who ordered the USB, but that’s the way it is. So a bit of a downer for something that I was on the fence about ordering anyway…. On a better note, the best Donna harmonizing I know is UJB 5-19-77. Done really well.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:12

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The discussion here got me to wondering, so I went through Boxzilla and here is how the credits for recording breakdown: Rex Jackson = 1 - '71 Kidd Candelario = 2 - '73, '74 John Cutler = 3 = '89, '94, '95 Betty Cantor-Jackson = 3 - '75, '77, '78 Bear = 4 - '66, '69, '70, '72 Dan Healy = 16 - '67, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '90, '91, '92, '93 The '68 show is credited to the Grateful Dead Thems the facts so make of them what you will Rock on
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Submitted by Jason Wilder on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:26

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A couple small nits from the 1st third of the big box, a couple small errors in the lists/notes. For, 1966 they claim Minglewood as a GD song when it is most definitely a cover, be it Noah Lewis or Cannon's Jug Stompers/Traditional. For 1969, they list Disc 2 as track 2. St. Stephen > 3. The Eleven Jam. It's clearly the full Eleven. The lyrics actually start on track 2, then there is a jam at the start of track 3, and then more Eleven lyrics in that track, before going into Lovelight. For 1975, no attribution to Matt Kelly on harmonica on Music Never Stopped and BIODTL and he can clearly be heard. Just some small stuff, but errors for certain. No detraction from the enjoyment to be sure, but claiming a cover as yours and not crediting another musician who played on the tracks are certainly mistakes of a sort.
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Submitted by Jason Wilder on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:26

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FWIW, I also got charged the full amount well before the Box shipped. I got the delay email, then in September got charged anyway, with no real notification of when it would ship. A couple days before it arrived I did get a 'your order has shipped' email from GD site. Don't know if this matches other people who got the box or not, but just wanted to let you know this charged/no idea when shipping thing happened to people who got the box as well. It was probably 3 weeks or so from the charge to the arrival.
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Submitted by kuffdaddy67 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 12:29

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Waiting for the stick, I feel your pain with lack of communication. On the other hand, when I check my order on the site, it still says backordered expected ship date 10/31/15. So maybe they think that is sufficient in the communication department, only they undermined themselves by getting a lot of boxes out to people earlier than what I understand the check order info had on the site for the boxes. Halloween is only 8 days away now. But if Dave's 16 arrives before the stick, I would consider that a rather large fail on the part of friends here. PATIENCE, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue. ~Ambrose Bierce (1842 - ?)
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 12:40

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Going back a few topics because I just woke up.. I also listened to the '79 from boxzilla last night at work.. that's the "'79 Trip" i was referring to when addressing keithfan's playlist. Reading it again, I realize it might have been interpreted as the '79 Road Trip.. which I've never heard. I did, however, forget to put the third disc of the '79 show on my phone, so I only got to hear 2/3 of that show last night... D'oh!
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 13:31

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Interesting about your son. I guess in some way there are so many entertainment avenues today that music is not as popular as it was 25-50 years ago. Might be they look at it as too much work, not enough reward. I do not know. I do know that music "seems" to have brought people together in the past and "seems" to drive people apart today. Part of the incredible niching out of artists and radio, etc. I think I saw a headline over at Jambase that Phil has already played at the Crossroads. So hope he is up and progressing. Go Phil!
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Submitted by the420bandito on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 14:13

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1. 1978 - 5/14, Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI2. 1991 - 9/10, Madison Square Garden, NY, NY 3. 1972 - 9/24, Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT 4. 1970 - 4/15, Winterland, San Francisco, CA 5. 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX 6. 1979 - 10/27, Cape Cod Coliseum, South Yarmouth, MA 7. 1967 - 11/10, Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA 8. 1966 - 7/3, Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA on deck: 1976 - 10/3, Cobo Arena, Detroit, MI 1981 - 5/16, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 1971 - 3/18, Fox Theater, St. Louis, MO 1974 - 9/18, Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 15:05

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Sounds non-confrontational enough.. The rule being best or most favorite show from the box in descending order? How long do you think it will take before we agree on the definitive order?
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 15:48

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The reason that some of us don't have our boxes yet nor an email that they have been shipped, or even been manufactured yet is that those of you who already have boxes are performing the quality control. All typos, missing discs, etc should be fixed on our box sets. Thanks for your work.
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Submitted by Guss West on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 16:15

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"When it comes to product testing, our customers come first!"
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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 16:47

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Ahhh...4/15/70!!! Like a breath of fresh air. The Good Ole Grateful Dead my friends.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 17:10

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I saw a lot of responses to my post this morning about putting together an early Brent era compilation. Work had me by the scruff today, so I'm just getting a chance to read them. I really appreciate the feedback, thank you. I'll let you know how it goes this weekend. WharfWhitney - yeah, Candyman sounds really really nice. I've been raving about it - one of the unexpected surprises of Boxzilla. Peace KeithFan
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Submitted by Stegner on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 18:04

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Somebody lamented that there was only 1 disc from 1968 -- its an awesome show, but I understand the sentiment for one of your favorite years. Am loving the 4/25/77 show, but its only 2 discs (although action packed)! There should be at least 5 discs for 1977 lol. Wish they had gone twice around the sun that year . . .
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 18:07

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Hot, intense, exhilarating and not nearly lasting long enough. Pretty much like my first couple years in college.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 18:14

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Sorry for the double post, Fruedian slip I guess!
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Submitted by sawyerfamilyaz on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 19:31

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It was Spring of 1993 and I was 19, sitting far from home in a campground outside Atlanta, GA. We had travelled from home (Chicago) to our first road trip Dead shows and were killing time with the other Heads in the campground. From someone's speakers came an unknown bootleg with Jerry running blistering solos, filled with delicious wah pedal across Sugar Magnolia. It was like nothing I had ever heard and lit up my mind. It was incredible and so unlike their current sound and yet so clearly Jerry and the Dead. I remember the guitar climbing and climbing, so early and primitive but so badass and jamming. All I could think of was electric mountain music. Almost 23 years later, I remember that song and that moment and out of so many years of tape and CD collecting I haven't run across anything quite like it...until this morning. On the way to work, working my way through the 1971 show, here comes Sugar Mags and Jerry and that scorching wah pedal. I smiled for hours after that. I don't know how to else to describe it as finding something special I had lost long ago. So a big thank you to DL and the Rhino team and most of all to the band, for giving me those bookend moments 23 years apart. That alone was worth the money. As for Brent - it's not early but Minglewood on Road Trips 4.2 (April Fool's Day) is as up front and in your face jamming organ as I have heard. He was in his prime at that point. Also, try to pick up the Hunter Seamons matrix of 2/27/1981 from Chicago. Not only is the sound amazing but Brent fills and accents the band so well throughout the whole show. He brings a sublime sound to Scarlet-->Fire that makes it one of my favorite shows ever. Just wanted to share something that made my day. Hope you all get the same soon.
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Submitted by rdevil on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 19:53

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At least that's what I used to call it. You're right, Drshakedown, the volume was ridiculously low those last couple years. I don't think it was too bad on the floor but if you were on the sides or any balcony or upper level forget it. Other people's conversations could be heard clearly; that's something that should not happen at a concert. I still remember seeing tons of people standing or dancing with their hands cupped behind their ears to hear better. And there were several shows with loud crowd chants of, "Turn it up! Turn it up!" Sorry for the negative post, it's just something I hadn't thought about for a long time. In an effort to be more positive: Here's to Dan Healy and the great work he did.
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Submitted by rdevil on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 20:02

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Great story, Sawyer. I love hearing stories about that moment of discovery. And very cool you were able to experience it twice, 23 years apart.I've been glad to see a couple folks out there mention the '71 show. It's been my favorite so far (skipping around). I wouldn't call it the best, necessarily, but it exceeded my expectations and surprised me a bit.
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Submitted by Moses Quasar on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 20:21

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...listening to '71. Thats a really good Cumberland! Great stuff so far. I wonder if this show and 4/15/70 are from the Mountain Girl tapes? Thoughts?
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Submitted by faximac on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 22:13

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Am I missing something in the box? I got: The CD's, book & 45...
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 22:20

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The Scroll is in the secret compartment at the bottom of the box, just (carefully) flip down the bottom flaps on the bottom of the box. The scroll is in between the jelly-roll of confederate hundred dollar bills and what appears to be an ill-placed bottle of Visine. Its already become the place I hide shit from my gf. Very cool box.
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Submitted by faximac on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 22:28

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No shit! Awesome I just found it thanks!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/23/2015 - 22:28

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....Jim! Has your bus made it to Detroit yet? 'Cause Cobo is a-waiting brother!....
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 05:44

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You ain't kidding... That 76' Cobo show has an awfully nice vibe to it... Absolutely beautiful.I love the fact that this box has something for whatever mood I'm in. I also like having the streaming option still open even though I now have the discs. The streaming is great for when I feel like jumping around on a moments notice...
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 06:22

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,,,,,in the old days there was just music ( on vinyl , casette or radio ) and TV , my friends and me met to listen to music and talk about it , eventually we drove to gigs. Some of us fell apart , some stayed on the bus. I had the luck to have a lady who understands my kind of trip, even likes most of my music. Our boy likes " my " music too , he got loads of old songs including many Dead tunes on his ipod but still he doesn`t like the effort to drive to a gig. So it seems that you are right , has to do something with availability. What makes me laugh is his comment when he saw Boxzilla first " Wow cool, what an effort they made"and the he asked me "aren`t that the songs you all know ? "He seems to be right - it`s me who is a bit crazy after all these years, a yes , i dream on for Phil and Bob to play a summer tour of Europe in 2016.....
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 06:48

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if you are in area stop by and check out the shops. Lots of cool stuff going on today. keithfan2112 check out Keith on organ, a rare treat and sort of Weird. 10.23.73 - Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower -> Jam -> I Know You Rider (Keith not on organ, but very nice)
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Submitted by EdTheHead on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 07:07

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"LoveJerry ... I guess these aren't HDCD?" Yes, these are HDCD.
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Submitted by Bach 2 Bach on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 08:54

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Grab a magnifying glass and check out the newspaper article reprint inside the Copps Coliseum '92 show to find out... (there's no shame in being a wacko, is there? ....just askin'.)
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 09:23

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uhhmm , quite difficult , first i have to put on my reading classes as the size is not made for " older still long haired post 69 hippies in a coat of well behaving " like me.....
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Submitted by hatch655 on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 09:30

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Evidently, you get some kind of gold record with your name engraved. I'll let you know when it arrives.
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Submitted by Mags72 on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 09:45

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Good news. Just received the following email last night:"Dear Mags72, We have sent out a replacement box set today, via UPS. You should receive your delivery by Monday, October 26. I am very sorry for the delay and thank you for your patience. If you have any questions, please let me know. Sincerely, Dr. Rhino (on behalf of Dead.net)" Hopefully that means the other folks waiting are getting their boxes soon as well. Not sure what they mean by replacement box, as that would imply a previous box had been sent and got lost in the mail. But whatever, I'm just stoked to get anything at this point.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sat, 10/24/2015 - 10:27

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@ Mags72 - I am happy that you're finally getting your 30 Trips CD box. You gotta check out your scroll. I'm just guessing that you're gonna get a "MIRACLE" scroll. You send that winning scroll into the Warner Music Group c/o "Dr. Rhino" aka Mark Pinkus, and .... EVENTUALLY, SOMETIME you will get a gold record award. Lucky you!
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