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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
    JimInMD
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
    Cousins Of The…
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
    KeithFan2112
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 15:08

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it is not such a huge deal for me,, what I think is kind of weak is when they could reshuffle tracks and instead offer up a 30-40 minute disc. Where is the Almanac ?!?
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Submitted by simonrob on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 15:10

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...two weeks after receiving the box here in the Netherlands. I am used to receiving shipping notices from here after the goods have arrived, but two weeks later is a new record. Now I have confirmation that it was shipped with DHL and I finally have a tracking number. Doh...
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 15:56

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I gotta agree Mr. Jack Straw with your first tier accolades, and spot on with the 67 assessment. For whatever reason my subconscious keeps going back to that show, the thunderous Viola Lee opener.... I just finished '87, and it made me recall fondly the first time I heard the morning dew sequence with the La Bamba. It was on David Gans grateful dead hour, sometime in college and I would eagerly await the hour with my XL II poised at the ready on the record button. That sequence is amazing, and in the context of the entire show it is a fantastic performance overall. Definitely agree with the top-tier, among the others. I'm also a sucker for the '94 show; it is a dooozy.
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Submitted by Dusty.rambler@… on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 16:28

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If your using iTunes, just select the track from disc 3, hit control "I" (track info) and change the disc and track number to disc 2 and the appropriate trac number. Do this for both tracks. You can now play them in order, but they won't fit on a cd if you try to burn it.... If your not on a Mac, I can help you. Hope that was helpful...
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Submitted by snafu on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 17:08

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Well I finally plowed through the whole box. Some of my nonDH friends thought it was more of a chore than enjoyable. While not agreeing with them I can see their point. I listen to music differently than most. As opposed to listening to this record then that one I listen to artists. Aside from the obvious I can go 2 or 3 weeks listening to Frank Zappa then move onto The Airplane then a couple of weeks with Dylan...you get the point. I know the people here can go long periods of the Dead, I would be interested how many do the artist method as I do. I hope it goes without saying in no way am I saying my way is the "right"way it's just how my brain works. Now to the box. As I said in an earlier post I think this release like almost all their releases was fantastic. That doesn't mean there weren't issues (the 1974 show with the vocal problem comes to mind), but we need to be realists they were recorded up to 50 years ago and weren't for the most part meant for release. I said it before but it bears repeating the 1 show per year was a great idea. It really gives people the ability to do comparisons they might not have made with the individual releases. While like most I would try different periods nothing I did came close to this. I saw some people had issues such as broken boxes disc problems I hope they get them worked out. If the past is any example Rhino will do the right thing. For me everything was perfect. Now back to the beginning only this time a little slower. P.S. I hope Dave et al haven't got too burnt out I definitely want a box nest year even if it's not quite so big
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Submitted by snafu on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 17:13

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Am I the only one who can't backspace when I make a mistake or is that an anomaly of the site
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Submitted by nitecat on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 19:41

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Happy taping! According to the book included with the box, let's celebrate the 31st anniversary of the first Dead taping section at the BCT in 1984. I was there! Loving the box, great Caution>feedback on '71. Also the Truckin'>TOO>Wharf Rat. I agree, Bruce was great with the Dead, and also really contributed to their Fare You Well. He was offered the job after Brent passed, and declined, offering to be a transitional player while they brought Vince up to speed. Just finished "So Many Roads" an excellent read by David Brown, a RS writer. Well written, based on tons of interviews, I think he digs deeper into the story than I've seen in other tomes. Thanks, all.
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Submitted by ckcoffman on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 20:42

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@snafu--I haveelhadvo aosdu aklajhrfg adh. Take two: I have that same problem with backspace in the comments sections sometimes. I'm no tech-whiz. And, I'm a bad typist. Probably depends on browser or something. This is someone else's problem, finally. I have more trouble on my personal PC than on my Mac at work. Huh. Don't much care, but it is fun to see how bad my typing can get. I can't believe some of you have time to rip and label and listen to all of this. I'm listening chronologically and have only made it up to 1971--still gleefully drooling over the rest. Of course, I've relistened quite a bit along the way. I'm fer shure in the "more discs is better than broken setlists" camp. And, yes, my shipping notice hit my e-box after Boxilla landed on the porch. No Black Friday release? During 50th anniv. year? I'm really surprised. Hoping very much though for some serious socks-knocking-off type things for DaP 2016. MG stash for real. OK, to wrap this ramble up: Mickey's right: be kind. And I'd add: Play dead. Buy the ticket, take the ride. And let it shine!
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Submitted by nitecat on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 20:55

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and I had a tape rolling in that first taping section!
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Submitted by Alain on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 22:41

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Sixtus, I listened to the performances of 1966 to 1971, and like you I am haunted by the show of 1967 and its opening that took my breath away.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 22:59

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I've been going through the October & November stuff first.Tis the season and all.... ;)
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Submitted by g1u2i3 on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 23:05

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snafu~ I listen to music similar to how you do. I like to immerse myself in an artist. I can go on some pretty long stretches for sure. I'm 49, so turning 50 next year. I've been obsessed with music, literally, as long as I can remember. I grew up predominantly in the 1970's, which is the most diverse and spectacular decade in music history. Radio in the 1970's was f^cking unbelievable. And it went on year after year after year. I loved so many songs, and in so many different genres of music. I wanted to own every song that I ever heard, that I liked. I felt this way at 7 or 8 years old. And so planted a seed that would grow and by 11 years old, began my journey of collecting and listening passion/obsession/craze. My collection is deep and broad. I was born 10 years too late, as my favorite music is from the generation(s) older than mine. I have not really been into the contemporary music of my time since the late 1970's and early 1980's. My favorite period of music would be 1966-1977. So maybe unsurprisingly, the artists that have consumed me over the past 4 decades and sent me on extremely long periods of focused and dedicated listening, and return to often throughout my life are: The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Grateful Dead, Joni Mitchell, Cat Stevens, 70's Genesis, Simon & Garfunkel, CSN, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Tim Buckley, Nick Drake, Bruce Cockburn, Caravan, Jimi Hendrix, Traffic, Spirit, Love, Donovan, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton, Gil Scott-Heron, Stevie Wonder, Peter Frampton, Black Sabbath, Gordon Lightfoot, Jefferson Airplane, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Pink Floyd, Oregon (Jazz), Richie Havens, Jim Croce, Rush, Tom Rapp/Pearls Before Swine, Shawn Phillips, Steely Dan, Hot Tuna, The Beach Boys (post-surfer period), The Byrds, The Doors, The Spinners, Dionne Warwick (Bacharach/David period), The Moody Blues, The Who, Van Morrison, War and Yes. Of course, I love many other artists, but this list represents the artists that have spoken to me throughout my life and continue to inspire me and thrill me beyond anything else in life.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 23:42

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Totally agree on the '67 Trip. Fantastic:)
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Submitted by prafter on Tue, 10/27/2015 - 23:45

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Here's what I received re the USB. Boxzilla is awesome. 1968 Greek Theater is mesmerizing. From: "deadnet@mailca.custhelp.com" Subject: Your Grateful Dead 30 Trips USB order [Incident: 151027-000164] Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:59:41 -0700 (PDT) To: deadnet@custhelp.com Full Headers Undecoded Letter Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support center. Below is a summary of your request and our response. If this issue is not resolved to your satisfaction, you may reopen it within the next 7 days. Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you. Subject --------------------------------------------------------------- Your Grateful Dead 30 Trips USB order Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Response Via Email(Michael) - 10/27/2015 08:59 AM Hang tight! Your USB is still coming down the line! We're very sorry we don't have any further information for you at this time but we are working on it and we will get you an update as soon as we can. In the meantime, we hope you are enjoying your streams of the shows available on the order status page. When you do receive your USB, you will find an original Grateful Dead concert ticket and backstage pass included as a token of our appreciation for your unending patience. Many Thanks, The Dead.net Team Question Reference #151027-000164 --------------------------------------------------------------- Category Level 1: Where is my order? Date Created: 10/27/2015 08:59 AM Last Updated: 10/27/2015 08:59 AM Status: Solved Order Number: [---001:001069:31356---]
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Submitted by drcomedy1966 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 00:50

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Only two weeks after box landed! Not complaining though as have been enjoying those two weeks' listening... only got to 1970, but all great so far...
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Submitted by saintstephen1971 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 02:03

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ok so it was never going to fill the shoes of the 67 show i played before it....so ive returned for a revisit in isolation.... it still underwhelms me and has to be one of the disappointments of the box for me.....im guessing it was selected for being a greek show and little else?? and how high is phils bass in the mix...i almost cant hear pigs organ weirs rhythm or anyyhing else during schoolgirl or lovelight an odd selection of show.....and mix...but the rest with the exception of 82...pure gold...now back to 91 fourth time around....
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Submitted by snafu on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 03:17

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Yeah it's a lot of fun going deep into an artist. I'm lucky I rent a room out and so far my music has never been an issue. Once I pressed play on my ipod (yes I know mp3s are going backward but I do a lot of travel and carrying a 1000 cds is tough)to Frank Zappa (I order everything chronologically)as I arrived at the Bangkok airport and was still listening to him as I approached Immigration in San Francisco. With layover etc 24 hours. My personal best so far. While I believe a person's formative years in your core music tastes come around age 12-20 Which puts me right in the mid 60's to early 70's I feel that every decade has great stuff to offer. From Punk in the late 70's (God save the Queen She Ain't No Human Being There is No Future and England's Dreaming to Grunge to Post Punk Social Distortion to Green Day etc. etc. Then the true lover of music continues to expand by adding genres My best friend got me hooked on Bluegrass in a big way 25 years ago.My job has mostly youngsters (I am "the Old Man")a friend had a radio show at SFSU and turned me onto modern R&B and hip hop. They aren't necessarily real high on my list but he got me back to Marvin Gaye Barry White etc. And while again it's not high on my list I have a better understanding of what kids see in hip hop than virtually anyone my age. I guess the bottom line to me is MUSIC IS LIFE
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 03:45

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I just make playlists for most of the shows. If you do that, you can toss all of the songs in together and then put them in the correct order. Easiest way to fix a show that got rearranged because of CD restrictions. And then you aren't having to permanently screw up the order they came in on the cds in case you want to burn them ever.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 05:51

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I do the artist method too. Grateful Dead 99% of the time. JGB 0.7% Pink Floyd 0.2% Others 0.1%. My system works great. :)
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Submitted by purpleerik69 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:56

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Over the last 34 years i had times when i only listened to the Dead for hours , the i had months where i went through all other kinds of stuff i like.Now - the last five years - i notice that the phases when i hear 95% Dead only become longer and longer , the last phase started in March - ok , occasionally i go to a concert or listen to ething that criosses my path - e.g. after hearing the 91 trip with Branford i had to listen to some Coltrane on vinyl - and yes there is Furthur , ratdog and Phil and friends on my playlist. Sometimes i have to listen to other music - when the band i`m playing in tries out new tunes - Overall , since March i`m hooked , never grow tired of GD. Yep , i`m healthy ( and hope to stay so ) , there`s only two addictions in my life : GD and a few cigarettes per day.
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Submitted by drsox on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:10

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Anyone have first hand experience on whether Rhino charges VAT/TVA etc etc on Downloads to a recognised European billing address ? Thanks.
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Submitted by drsox on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:13

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I also have complete genre phases - currently it is the 30 Trips. Previously it was all of Bill Evans, then all Verdi Operas, then all Fairport Convention, then back to Bob Dylan.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:25

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The '75 show is something else. The recording itself has a raw edge to it, one that you got back in the early recordings, which seemed to disappear by '72, for a more polished production edge. I love hearing THIS batch of songs with THAT production element, as everything is close and raw. Jerry's solo in Franklin's Tower is incredible; also dig the Truckin', botched timing on the chorus and all. Someone had mentioned an X factor to this show, and I have to agree. Coupled with the fact that this is only the second full show release from that year, and I have to put 1975 Lindley Meadows at the top of my list.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:26

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Someone asked about the total size of 30 Trips in the form of FLAC files. Just finished encoding my WAV files to FLAC (8) and it came out to 25.5 GB.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:34

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anyone going for the shows ? Just got offered a Sat n Sun for face value, time is a ticking, gotta clear my schedule. **Flash Sale on Garcia site**,, 10.28.87 !!! Bundle up for grabs And a tasty nugget from Cleveland !! Gotta love those October 72' treats (The Buckeye state must have been loving this 3 day run, October 26-28 with stops in Cincy, Columbus, and Cleveland) From 10.28.72 - Attics Of My Life (shelved for quite some time after that) And Hot damn people,,, check out Bertha ; Me And Bobby McGee from 10.27.73
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Submitted by drsox on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:38

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I get 27.04 GB for my copy of 30 Trips encoded through iTunes into ALAC.
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Submitted by MilesM on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:00

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That 75 show is wonderful. I'm on my third time around and cant seem to stop listening to it. That truckin Eleven jam is just crazy good. Sounds like Jerry's playing with Merl kinda changed his style in this year. I don't know how to explain it but I know I love it.
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Submitted by MilesM on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:07

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I feel for all you brothers and sisters not receiving this box or usb yet. I think it's absurd that no explanation is being givin to you for the delay. At this point you should get it for half off the price.
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Submitted by snafu on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:07

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Diversity truly makes life more interesting
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Submitted by drpryan on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:36

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I finally got UPS confirmation of my box shipping with a 2 Nov delivery date. I asked Marye for help a few days ago. She answered this AM that the Doc was shipping out a replacement box today and sure enough, it showed up on UPS choice (I had doubts that I would ever see that). Many thanks Marye, it is greatly appreciated. Can't wait to dive in for the first go round. Oh yeah, I'm an old head and I will start with the 60's. Dead ahead all
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:12

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Glad to hear you are finally getting yours Dr. I have been pulling for the boxless. Several weeks back I saw a tv news shot of a large truck being hit by a water spout/tornado and it blew all of the packages away. I sometimes have wondered if there were any boxes on that truck. When I saw I thought, "well there goes a whole bunch of someones stuff." Just wonderin
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Submitted by drpryan on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:44

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Thanks man. It has been a trying time what with little or no information, but it will be worth the wait Dead ahead all
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 15:15

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My guess by looking at the poster and the link is either: - Mark Cuban (surely that's a young Mark Cuban on the blog, he must be a deadhead). - The source is the Senor Davis himself, but the returned email does little to confirm it. We will have to ask VGuy.. but my looking at the attached links, my guess is vegas odds would not call this a sure thing.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 16:02

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....I say it will place or show, but not win....
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 16:30

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What? A Greek show for Dave's 17? In the 30 Trips book, in the Dead Heads & family & close friends remembrances section, on page 127, there is a box with Mark Pinkus' story. He mentions 7/13/15 as the show that changed his life. Could Dave's Picks Volume 17 be Grateful Dead @ The Greek, UC Berkeley July 13? 1984? I sure hope so. Cassette master tape. Set 1: Bertha, GSET, Dire, CC Rider, Loser, Cassidy, Dupree's, Hell. Set 2: Scarlet> Grey> Fire> MSWS> Drums> Space> Wheel> Miracle> Stella> Sugar Mags Encore: Dark Star
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 16:50

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People have been begging for an '80's show in the Dave's Picks Series since its inception.7/13/84 fits the bill for me, I'd be happy with this show, even though I have a good download of this one. $30 ea. / $99.98 early bird subscription. I'm still good with that.
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Submitted by Diggey on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 17:05

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I'm going In order and Frankly it is getting better and better. I was never a super early primal dead super fan. I love it all, but just would listen and move on. From the start this set has been amazing. I said my favorite was 74, but 75 blew my mind. 76 has some amazing and tasty jamming going on. Overall, I am loving it. I can't wait to get through them all and do a round two. In addition, knowing Daves picks is a few days away at this point has me smiling from ear to ear with the wealth of music we have received this year. I'm blown away by it all. I used to simply dream about a golden ticket into the vault. We seem to all have one and not even know it. My only suggestion/ hope is we get more DVDs. I love watching the band interact. You can not only hear them gelling but watching them and little things like Jerry moving his body to the groove or Mickey smirking at Billy..... Just love it. If you've ever been in a band you get what I mean and what I think they are feeling. It's magical and its captured in the music but fun to watch them gel. I will keep hope alive for more video and once again this set is amazing.
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Submitted by prafter on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 17:25

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7.13.84 would be fantastic. I was there. Quite a long break for the Dark STar encore. A few years later, I was working for The Wherehouse Record chain and Brent was a familiar patron. So I asked him about that night, and why it took so long for the band to come back out for the encore. I believe we were a few days past a full moon and we surmised (incorrectly) they were waiting for the moon to rise above the Greek, before playing Dark Star. Nope. Brent said one of the other members was in the bathroom for a longer than expected amount of time.This would be a great release.
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Submitted by jmbiceman1 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 17:41

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Working my way thru the Box from the beginning. I am enjoying this thoroughly. Especially liking the 70' & 71' shows, Top notch! I would have liked to see a little more of Alligator (Only the 67' show). There was a solid representation of Dark Star & at least 4 shows have The Other One. Don't get me wrong, always liking "Other ones" but 1 more BIG Alligator would have been Nice.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 17:50

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Which will I get first? Emailed customer service today regarding my hypothetical Box. Got an email confirming receipt of my inquiry email regarding my Box. Did not get an email confirming existence of said Box.
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Submitted by One Man on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 18:40

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This talk of "replacement" boxes is making me nervous. How does anyone know they need a "replacement" when some boxes apparently haven't shipped (or haven't reached their destinations)? I'm getting a sinking feeling now, and I've never had one single problem from Deadnet/Rhino before. My turn I guess. The emails have been sent. The lame replies have been received. The streams are mocking me.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 19:44

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Child #4, the 11 year old, came into the kitchen while I'm cooking and blaring Shakedown from 1991. She exclaims, "I like this song!" and starts dancing with her moves and shakes. She doesn't realize the thousands of dollars she just inherited, from music to cookie jars to autographs. Fourth time was a charm!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 19:47

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....I was playing Oxford '88 and had Waterbury '72 on deck. Had both cases opened on top of my stack. The main and secondary colors are transversed! Awesome!! Perhaps sensing a trend? ...on deck. Royals are taking care if business.... Edit kids. My 14 yr old kid loves Franklin's, Fire and US Blues. Mrs. Vguy loves the same. Still trying to expand their horizons....
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 19:51

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Today I had the chance to listen to the rest of set I, and all of set II for the '77 trip. While it was good, it wasn't end to end mind-blowingly fantastic (some out of tune moments in Wharf Rat). Still very good and I am 100% pleased with the choice. The band seems happy to be back at the Palladium as well, as evidenced by Phil's 'thank you, nice to be back' before the encore. The return to Playing in the Band is classic. That cacophonous climax and subito is awesome. I was also able to get in the first set from the '78 trip and I am highly impressed by it. For me, TLEO, Looks Like Rain, and Let it Grow were the highlights of a great first set. Onward to the second set tomorrow and who knows where else whim may lead with this superb set.
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Submitted by kevinbrandon on Wed, 10/28/2015 - 21:39

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Dave's comments on the inside cover on 1978 were right. Take a real good listen on this one. He said that Looks Like Rain is "of particular interest" Boy was he right. I would say EXQUISITE sounding comes to my mind. Donna was quite lovely in the background. Bob was flawless.
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