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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • RV3
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    Some have seen me a bit cynical & snide on these boards regarding releases ( and lack there of post-1978)....NO MORE, I could not be happier with the 30 TRIPS box set! Bravo to David L & TPTB for their great selections, especially post-1978. Although the 1972, 1973,1974,1977, and 1978 shows look very stellar & unique also.....that being said I'm always curious & just wondering how DAVE will possibly top this box with DP#15?!?! ....I think the loose rumors are true & Dave and Co. will finally release 5/8/77 as DP#15. If not, then we will probably see 4/26/84 IMHO & research. One last thing, for those bitchers about the 50th Box pricetag: 1) think about how much you're getting for the $700 2) stop d*cking around on these boards & go to work so you can afford this STELLAR Box Set. Thanks DAVE!
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    I have to agree with PTBarnum. When the E'72 box came out, they said it was 7200 offered and then no more. Then they released the "Music only" version. Not fair in a way. I think you have to read between the lines with Rhino. They say these shows will not be offered individually on cd. So that means they can offer cds in groups, like maybe by each decade or some other grouping? It also means, I think, that eventually downloads will be made available. I want the cds so I don't care if they do offer downloads. I think they will wait until it sells out. After all, on the Spring 1990 TOO box they offered downloads right away and now they have over 400 boxes on the shelf. I believe Rhino is trying to avoid storing anything. Some have argued that the cost of storage is minimal. And while that may be true, please remember that they have to pay taxes on inventory and also the longer these things sit in a warehouse, the greater the chance they could be damaged or they might get "lost" and find their way out the back door. Not that I am pointing fingers at any Rhino employees, but we all have to realize that things do tend to happen as time goes on. Rock on
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    what I am saying is if they release individual shows, this box will not be as advertised, bait and switch, say one thing, do another, that's like saying I'm only going to make ten of something, charge what ever the market will bear, make a bunch of money, then make a bunch more and sell them for cheaper. If that isn't bait and switch, I don't know what is. Also, there was never taxes before, the shipping charge covered the taxes, now, taxes and free shipping, but if you wait you will be charged shipping and taxes, sounds like double charge to me, but what do I know. I have to pay taxes at the end of the year on all internet purchases, what about this one? double pay? My comment was never intended to fire anyone up, just an observation. This has happened before. I never planed to sell this box, nor divide it up and sell it or burn copies and sell them, just a loop hole that I have discovered in the advertising of this set, that's all, take it if you need it, or leave it.... I do not agree that this should be a limited edition, I think all should be able to get it all, at whatever cost you can afford, but to say it's a limited edition, then release individual shows is false advertising and can come back to bite Rhino in the butt, that's all I'm saying. Riding that train, value is a subjective thing, isn't it? I never mentioned value or anything about "my big box" I can't afford this thing anymore than you can. I just see a potential for problems in the future with non payment if they decide to go with releasing shows that are suppose to be "limited". Kind of a lie, don't you think?
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    death, taxes, and me and my uncle.
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    Sleep: Dopesmoker recently discovered alternative when I need to hear something besides the GD. gruh gruh GRUH BUH gruh give yourself an hour and 10 minutes for a change of pace you'll never forget.
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    Brian, your post about everything being reversed in Australia is one of the funniest things I've ever read on this site. Nice. I've been reading all this, and uncharacteristically silent. I think the people who've pointed out the difficulty of having great shows (like Lindley) being buried in a 700 dollar box are making a valid point, and I don't really understand why that upset other people. It's not whining, to me, and most even added something like "but I'm sure those who can afford it will love it!" As the "wife" posts indicate, this is more than an issue of "affording it" - heck, I have the money for it. Problem is, it's not like there aren't many other things that cost money in life (tuition, sports gear for the kids, car issues, home repair, etc). Some people basically accused others of not being farsighted, because they didn't save up for the inevitable big box. Pshaw. One can "have the money" but have trouble with prioritizing this. Some sympathy for your fellows would be nice. I'm having my own ethical struggles with how to go about purchasing this. Like Brian said, I should move to Australia - I love my wife dearly, and she's frankly hot as hell. Smoking hot. More sex as "penalty" would be pretty okay with me :) But here in the northern hemisphere.... Kate - welcome back! Where is Cosmic Badger? Angry Jack Straw ... you are a good man. Wissinoming - positive vibes and love to you and your family.
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    I can't quite agree that if they decided to sell 30 trips as individual shows this would make the box set somehow "defective". Are you saying the box set would lose it's value? Only in relation to the value you place in it, unless you plan to sell it it will retain whatever value you ascribe to it. If you have the Europe 72 trunk with all the bells and whistles that doesn't suddenly become devalued just because you can buy an individual show. The bottom line is this..the music deserves to be heard by all who wish to hear it. Some people can't pay 700 dollars for one box set. Does that mean that we don't deserve to EVER hear those shows because it might make your big box "defective". I can't get down with that kind of thinking. At the end of the day it's about the music being heard not the collectible value of a box set. i am happy to pay for the music and do not expect it to be given away for free but I could care less if they decided to re-release everything they ever put out even if it was supposed to be a limited edition or a one time thing. It makes me sad when I miss out on getting a Dave's pick or can't find a copy of a bonus disc because I just want to hear the music, that's all that matters to me. I have not nor will I ever sell any of my collection so the commercial value means nothing to me. I just want people to be able to listen to this great band.
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    Hello again, I purchased the original E72 box when it first was announced, at that time they said that there would never be any others made, then they announced the individual show sales and the music only sales, this made the original box NOT what it was advertised as, a defective product. I guarantee you they will not make that same mistake, there will be no music only box, or single show downloads or sales, if they do, that would also make this box FALSE advertising and a defective product...grounds for any and all not to pay for it. Also, what's up with the taxes? I have never paid tax on a dead product before, now, 50 plus extra bucks for taxes? What gives? What if the state you live in is not on the list of taxed states? How do you get this tax off of your bill? And the money just keeps on flowing, after this 50 year thing, these guys will never have to perform again. It's a sad, sad day, Robert Hunter said it best in his blog, one day, this wonderful music will no longer be heard in concert halls and arenas, it will not be out there for all the world to hear and experience the wonder of it all, well folks, this day is upon us. I miss Jerry and the Grateful Dead. Thank God they were wise enough to record these shows, so future generations can hear what we all experienced, one afternoon, long ago.
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    DEFINITION OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD
    The definition of the Grateful Dead sure put's a new spin on the recent high priced anniversary. I would say throughout the 50 year span the "Hero" and the "Debtor"("Campanion") have changed roles and at least a few occasions. This time for the WORKINGMAN'S DEAD I sure wish the fans had a low cost choice to enjoy this ride. My vote - single show purchases... DEFINITION OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD Alternate title: grateful ghost grateful dead, in folktales of many cultures, the spirit of a deceased person who bestows benefits on the one responsible for his burial. In the prototypical story, the protagonist is a traveler who encounters the corpse of a debtor, to whom the honour of proper burial has been denied. After the traveler satisfies the debt, or, in some versions, pays for the burial, he goes on his way. In another version of the story, burial is prescribed for religious reasons but prohibited by civil authorities. It is this version that forms the theme of the apocryphal Book of Tobit in the Old Testament. The hero is soon joined by another traveler (sometimes in the form of an animal, or, in the story of Tobit, an angel), who helps him in a dramatic way. In some stories the companion saves the hero’s life; in others he helps him gain a prize. In many versions, the companion offers to aid the hero, but only on condition that they divide the prize. Then, as the hero is about to comply, the companion reveals himself as the grateful spirit of the deceased whom the hero helped to bury.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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on a post in this thread from October 21 at 5:05pm where there was a spotting on dead.net of a banner saying that Dave's Pick 17 would be July 13, 1984 at the Greek, which apparently was immediately taken down. I posted a copy of this on my Dead blog http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2015/10/daves-picks-17-berkeley-gre… My raising of the rumor is based on several actual dead.net readers seeing this banner. I do not know if it is true, but it would be cool. I'd still prefer the 1982 Greek shows or the 1972 Berkeley High School (Community Theater) shows
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While at the Jerry Memorial in GGP - "the days between" was playing on the sound system - it to this day is the most amazing version I have ever heard with a long intro. It sounded like it might have been a studio version?? Very long. Can anyone shed some light for me on this? Thanks so much.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:38:18 -0700From: kraitch@EECS.Berkeley.EDU (mark kraitchman) To: dead-heads@nemesis.Berkeley.EDU Subject: setlist [Sunday August 13, 1995] What follows is mostly a setlist posted to rec.music.gdead by David Gans (with a few embellishments). If anybody has more complete transcriptions of the speeches please share them. Note the music was previous recordings; except for the parade and drumming there was no live music... It is estimated that about 20,000 people were there. Sunday August 13, 1995 Golden Gate Park Polo Field, San Francisco CA Jerry Garcia Memorial Gathering Days Between - Spring tour 1994 composite http://hake.com/gordon/latest.html
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My socks were blown off by the Wharf Rat outro Jam into the Playing reprise ever since I heard it again this past spring while I was volunteering picking up (tons of) trash at a beautiful local park. Once upon a time, when mp3 files where made freely downloadable at the Taper's Section, the segment from Terrapin on through the end of the show was one of the selections distributed. So, when I noticed this was the 1977 selection for 30 trips I was stoked this was getting official release treatment because I was aware of the heat of the jam.I'm looking forward to set II of the '78 trip today. I don't know where I am going to hit next (maybe '80's?)...
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So - Though I'm going in order with the Box (up to '72 now), Lindley Meadows is an exception. I've heard that show so many times it doesn't matter if I listen to it out of order. Anyway, I'm CRANKING that the other night while my wife and 6 year old were taking a shower. They come in to the room, PJ's on, and The Music Never Stopped has just started. Next thing I know, the three of us are dancing like we're at a show, laughing our asses off. My wife hates the Dead, basically. But no one can resist the power of Lindley Meadows. NWScarletFireGuy - thanks for posting that story about your 11-year old - great story! Made me think of posting this. I love the Grateful Goddamn Dead. EDIT: This box set is the greatest thing in the history of recorded music.
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good story about the family getting involved in your little obsession. Mine is the same way it seems; wifey = not a big fan, but I am slowly wearing her down...she now recognizes Shakedown Street, Eyes of the World, Estimated Prophet, and actually has verbally stated she enjoys Scarlet Begonias (see, it's working). But the best part is my 15-month old son LOVES to groove to the Dead. It is always on in the car to/from daycare, and then I am usually home first so I almost always put on a show and crank it up, and he comes into the room bopping his head up and down and doing little knee bends, clearly trying to be in-time with the music, huge grin on his face. And he only started walking about 6 weeks ago so his balance is still a little iffy but man is it great fun to see him engaged. Then the icing on the cake is when the wifey comes home and finds us bopping and grooving to the music, she almost always joins in. As I said - she's comin' around...slowly but surely, I am determined....
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This is a great box set and I'm very happy I bought it, but there is one depressing thing: it really highlights how they peaked early and went down hill steadily as time went by. Listening to the shows in order: 67-70 are just astonishingly amazing.Their improvisation is just fantastic. 71-74 are great but a bit more tame. 76-77 have some great stuff but can't be compared to earlier jams.The improv isn't anywhere near 67-70. 78 onward - meh. Not much at all to get excited about. From here on out they just went down toward a slow death. I know many will disagree. I figure there are just different kinds of Dead Heads who like different types of music. Those that dig the roots of the Dead - the wild, improvisational long jams. Early stuff. Those that like the utter raw stuff. Those that like more song oriented stuff. Then there are those that are mostly attracted to the "scene". The "tribal" tent scene, where the focus is less on the actual musical talent. They like just hanging out, taking drugs, selling stuff in the parking lot, being part of a "hip scene". They might like the Dead from the 80's for that reason. Music-wise the 80's just plain sucked. Note:I'm talking in very general overall, birds eye view terms. An occasional one song or jam jem in later years doesn't change my opinion. There just aren't any full shows in later years that are even in the same ballpark as earlier shows. My opinion.
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I think you got it just about right.
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Yes, clearly 80's Dead sucks, and people who enjoy it must be on drugs or were there for the scene. Nothing insulting about that post. Bravo guys, your condemnation is much appreciated.
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@ZuckfunSorry my opinion doesn't line up with yours. Maybe that's against the law where you live. It's not in California so I assumed I had a right to an opinion that wasn't identical to yours.
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Opinions yes, insults not so much. Perhaps it's a lack of a talent the inability to share an opinion without insulting people.
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without insulting a whole generation of Heads. Your subjective opinion is just that. But relatively speaking the Dead in the 80's was a welcome contrast to the likes of synth driven crap like Kajagoogoo & Starship's we built this city. Homer Simpson said that it's a known fact that rock and roll peaked in 1974. That may be true but the show must go on & it did for the Dead in a still meaningful way. Sure I prefer Houses of the Holy Zeppelin to what came out of Jimmy Page & Plant in the 1980's, but time moves on. Very few artists continue to peak 20 plus years into a career.
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Random digression from the topics on this board but I had to share it. Heard a story from a guy who is usually into good music but for some reason can't handle the Dead. The guy grew up in Alaska working at the fisheries in the summer and as a teenager he had to watch over all of the guys gutting and packing up the fish in a warehouse. He was also in charge of the music. He said they were all deadheads working summer in Alaska. The music selection was hundreds of dead tapes with no name, just a date and location. Some guy named psycho Bob would take a sledge hammer to the top of the corrogated roof yelling to throw on Hollywood 72, no Cornell 77, and wouldn't stop hitting the roof until he had the right show going. The guy has flashbacks to sorting through hundreds of tapes, just dates and locations, with psycho bob and the other fishermen yelling to keep the music going. This went on for several summers and he seemed really traumatized from the constant demand to keep the live dead going.
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Please stop calling me psycho bob. It was a long time ago, its not a nice nickname and I am trying very hard to move on. Edit: Bang Bang Bang. 6/18/74, Louisville. BANG, BANG BANG.
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lol, well, I don't believe the scene changed all that much, and I think all eras enjoyed it. You have to be more considerate on here and not lump everyone into one basket. I agree that the music took a downward trajectory, and personally, I don't listen to much after '78. Nassau and Dead Set are enjoyable. The reason is that Brent's voice instantly makes my bunghole pucker (I know, not ladylike), and that tinky-tonk fisher price toy keyboard sound (lol, someone else once used that term, funny) he employed in the mid to late 80s simply does not mix in well with the other instruments - it's a tonal thing, it just sounds like it's on top of the rest of the music not in harmony with it. I think "tone deaf" is the word you were looking for....all of those 80s fans are not drugged out, they're tone deaf....
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@LoveJerrySo do I. In fact, I'm a Jerry Head, not a Dead Head. Without Jerry, OMG they are so boring! Sorry guys who can't take other opinions, but for me everything that came after Jerry bores me to tears. Tone deaf - yeah, I can go with that. Scene - sure, it changed a great deal. HUGELY. Interviews with Jerry and others will attest to it. Music was the focus early on. Later it was the scene. This isn't idle subjective speculation on my part. It's clear and the Dead are the ones who described the change. It culminated in the last years with gate crashes, injuries, and general craziness, as if it were a Led Zeppelin concert.
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Tone deaf, really? This is the wrong forum for that. Take the negativity, insults and closed-mindedness to the proper forum on that FB page where they still openly condone/encourage stealing officially released music. The shows from the box I haven't heard yet are '73, '78, '81, '91, the second set of '94 and '95. My current favorite is the '88 show. Possibly the most flawlessly executed performance next to the '67 show, another favorite. So far, the only show that I've listened to twice is '82, which I liked more the second time. I haven't heard a show from this box I disliked. If the rumored pick to kickoff the 2016 subscription is indeed 7/13/84, this will be my favorite subscription year since 2011 Road Trips. Excellent choice and essential. Now Weir talking!
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Ok. So let's say you prefer pre '80 Dead to post '80 Dead. But what about post '80 Dead compared to the rest of what was out there in the rest of the music world in the '80's. Hair bands? The end of disco? I think when you look at it that way the post '80 Dead measures up just fine! I am one who likes all Dead. Sure, there are differences in the stages of the band but I love them all. That is why I think this box is just about the be-all and end-all. I am amazed at how good the '90's shows here sound. Awesome to these old ears. And after '81 I only saw the band one more time live, in '87. I am thrilled that this box gives everyone a chance to get out of their comfort zone and I think most of us will find happiness there. Rock on
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I'm trying to stream one of the older taper's section entries. On the newer ones, it works fine, but on older ones, like say the "Run Run Rudolph" from the December 4-December 10, 2006 Taper's Section, what I get is it tries to go to this url: http://mfile.akamai.com/72222/mov/sos2208-1.streamos.download.akamai.co… and then a Authentication Window comes up asking for a Userid and Password with the following text: "Enter username for Streaming Server at a117.v722228.c72222g.vq.akamaistream.net: I have no idea what to put there, and if I don't put anything I get a "401 Unauthorized" message. Does anyone know how to stream these older entries?
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this is a known bug that the tech folks are aware of. Sorry for the trouble. It's definitely not you.
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Too funny, man. Jeffmil, great fkin story, I can picture the poor guy rifling through those tapes searching for the right one...hahaha.
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Thank you very much Mary!! I won't keep trying for now, then :)
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Well something has to account for it, the boy can't sing! It was a tongue in cheek remark.
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Why do I feel like this line of argument is going to lead to a cheap shot at my girl....
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Well you asked for it. She's horrible! I wish she was on a separate track so I could get a mixer and mix her out of the '70's. LOL!
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hbob1995, you are probably right about comparing the Dead to other '80's bands. Fine. But the point of my original post was that the one downside to this box set is that it makes it quite natural to compare the Dead as the "progressed" (although I would call it "devolved"). For instance, listening to 1976 is so boring compared to '69-70! They are tired, the transitions between songs are lame, and there is no improvisation the way there used to be. And I want to LOVE 1976 because that's the year I started going to a lot of shows! I loved them, but I'd pay anything to be able to go to a 1970 show. Mind blowing in comparison. I stopped going in 1980 when I saw them and couldn't believe how far they had sunk. Yeah, better than the "big hair" bands, but after seeing greater shows it was hard to sit there and listen to them phone it in.
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If anyone has a copy of the Dead Ahead Bonus Disc and is willing to trade for some other hard to find Bonus Disc, please let me know. Still living the 30 Trips around the Sun collection. Find myself still coming back to the Golden Gate Park 1975 concert. Simply beautiful. Peace
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The 80s chart music sucked of course. But we're talking about the love of good music here, so comparing 80s Dead to the mainstream is somewhat off-beam. The 80s had Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Mission of Burma, Bad Brains, Smiths, The Fall, PiL ... and that's just the stuff I liked; there's other stuff like Joy Division, The Cure, REM, Green On Red, Pixies, Throwing Muses, Minutemen, Crass, Jesus & Mary Chain; I could go on all night, but you get the point. Even so, 'Loser' from July 22nd 1984, for one, can easily hold it's own with any of this company. Obviously Smack & Coke will compromise art, but the Dead had a very long way to fall before bands in the common run could even begin to stand comparison. YMMV of course :-)
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Yeah Brent sucked I don't care I love it and always will.
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First off, WOW! That Hell In A Bucket opener from 7/3/88 may be the most explosive and powerful opener of any show in the box. They're playing at a full-on grand finale level right out of the gate with Jerry just viciously attacking his guitar. The gig just picks up steam from there and gets downright nasty throughout in a Grateful Dead rocking it out kind of way. Even the second set Touch of Grey opener is full of explosive energy. I'm officially jealous of everyone who attended this "Masterpiece" of a show (both shows actually) and ranks up there with 8/27/72 as a one I most "wish I'd been there" moment. The other night of this run, which hasn't been released yet is even better. I haven't heard everything from the box yet, but this is the top contender as my box favorite which I will revisit very often. This is the show to bust out at parties and for newbies. Every note, beat and word executed with absolute perfection and the audio quality is PHAT! @Keithfan2112 - for an '80s mix tape, there are a lot of great performances I think you would like. I'll put something together for you to check out. 7/3/88 is a great starting point.
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I don't like Brent. I don't think the two have anything to do with each other. Jerry was in the band either way. Was the playing a little more predictable? Sure. Was Jerry's voice a little more ragged? Absolutely. But anyone who doesn't enjoy Jerry and the boys during that decade (especially post-coma) is missing out.
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The Dead is the only band that I love everything they did, in all the different sounds and lineups. Love being able to throw on a Viola, Clementine, Potato, Alligator, Mountains, Ripple, Half Step, Here Comes Sunshine, Eyes, Scarlet, Terrapin, Shakedown, West La, Alabama, Black Muddy River, Standing on the Moon, Touch, Lazy River, Days Between and So many Roads. And that's a VERY short list of extremely great songs from the band's various eras. There's so much to love about each era, comparing them is sort of a blazed reason to dislike anything. This doesn't sound like this!!! Well yeah that's because they aren't doing that...they are doing something else though that is beautiful. I prefer 68-69 but when listening to other years I'm not thinking about how they don't sound like they did in 68-69... that's out of gourd.
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I too liked the 80's dead, saw about 125 80's shows. I always loved brent and thought he was a good addition. As my old man used to say "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink". And my old man was a classy guy.
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Dennis, If your old man's still around, I want to party with him. That's classic.. I will be sure to use that phrase a lot myself.
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Funny. I am working my way through the box sequentially and this afternoon I got up to 1987, the one show from the box that I attended. As I was listening and feeling the hair on the back of my neck stand up, I checked out this thread and saw all the shade thrown on 80's dead. Whatever, to each his own, but to me part of the appeal is the changes that they went through. I mean its a period of 30 years, how could they not wander off in some different directions from time to time? Listening to the Dead sets my mind free whatever era.
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It was going on well before the 80-90 era of Dead.
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I went to shows 90-95, and it just wasn't young folks acting like drunkin asses...plenty of blame to go around
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Trick or Treat is here tonight in my neighborhood. A perfect night to que up some 80's Drums > Space jams And a perfect night for the probably the entire neighborhood and me to get its first listen of this massive box set. *Ticket = 10.27.91 *Backstage Pass = 6.11.93 - Buckeye Lake - awesome 1st set, one of my favorites from Vince era. And the pass is awesome. Astronaut with a skeleton face AHAHAH !! 10.28.84 - BCT - 2nd set - very nice and the Drums is awesome !!!!! Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
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Dr Rhino says I get a replacement Box.That's much better than a Halloween trick of no Box. With all these 'replacement' Boxes going out you would think that the production count would be >20,000.
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Dead and Co stream Ustream @ tapperrob
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I glad to hear that you're finally getting your 30 Trips box.
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...all this 80s bashing. I started listening to the box set in reverse order. 95 on down. Currently on disc 3 of 1983. I absolutely LOVE the 80s stuff...AND the 90s stuff. So far, 93 is the only show of the box, IN MY OPINION, that lacks a bit of energy. Yet I still enjoyed it. And really, that's all it's about. Me (and whomever) enjoying! Loving this trip!!!!
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Dr. Rhino promises a "replacement" box will be shipped ASAP to me in Atlanta. What is going on here? Did the Southeast UPS warehouse get raided by pirates?
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Clearly evil geopolitical forces are at play. This is no mere act of piracy.
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Good grief,good stuff.:)
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Dream Bowl is fantastic.:)
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