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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • claney
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    From Uncut magazine: Heads up! Next month’s Uncut – on sale July 28 in the UK – comes with a FREE GRATEFUL DEAD CD: our historic attempt to piece together the album that should have followed “Workingman’s Dead” and “American Beauty”… Read more at http://www.uncut.co.uk/uncut-editors-diary/fare-thee-well-the-grateful-… ---- I am looking forward to this. Often wondered what that studio album would have looked like. Here is what I picture: SIDE ONE Bertha Ramble on Rose Mr. Charlie Tennessee Jed He's Gone SIDE TWO Jack Straw Chinatown Shuffle Brown Eyed Women The Stranger / Two Souls Wharf Rat
  • kaustin7
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    Agree with the comments about Red Rocks! I have been fortunate enough to see WSP play 24 shows there since 00. I am still glowing from the Fare Thee Well experience in Chicago! What a run, the atmosphere was nothing but amazing and positive. 70,000+ people just singing and dancing. Truly a memorable experience! Everyone I met at soldier field was super friendly and kind. Absolutely loved this past weekend!
  • Travis Loscher
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    Without a doubt the coolest venue I have been to .Saw the Allmans there in 96 and tentcamped about a mile away.Lightning over Denver most of the show was really cool.The other funny thing was the campground host looked like the prospector from Toy Story.Even funnier when he said if we were there to see Phish we could turnaround and stay somewhere else.He must have known something we didn't..I think it was soon after that they practically boarded up Morrison during their run
  • chilly1214
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    I lived outside of Boulder for 15 years and saw many an artist at Red Rocks. A most amazing venue!
  • Oroboros
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    Please, please all who read these words go to Red Rocks to see
    a band that you enjoy. It is a "peak experience" without equal. And brother Dedicated indeed reminded me of my maiden voyage in this fantastic venue 37 years ago yesterday evening. And then we came back to the 7/8/78 show to bask in the Grateful Dead's glow again. . The boys were in fine form!! I implore all who read this post or my account of those '78 Dead shows (see below), make plans in the future to head out to Denver, take someone you love, and visit Red Rocks to experience any music that you enjoy. It will be 'better'. Give your head/heart this gift. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    Oroboros is not kidding...
    My only Red Rocks show was Bunny Wailer opening for String Cheese years back.Great show and FANTASTIC venue! Go see someone you love at Red Rocks. You will not regret it. :) edit: For any WSP fans out there that haven't been,the joint's got flash-flood warning signs that read "Climb To Safety!"
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    I agree some 73 would be delightful and welcomed.
    I just got a prompt from a buddy reminding me of that summer of 1978, when the Dead first played at Red Rocks July 7 & 8, 1978. First the Dead actually circled back to play Nebraska. I know I have told this one before, but here it goes again. You know how us oldsters repeat ourselves all the time. At least that is what my kids tell me. They played the Omaha Civic Auditorium, where the Dead played once before in 1973.. We got there and the venue was half full (about 4,000) but everyone was chomping at the bit in anticipation to hear them live. I took my Nak 550 into the venue and there was no hassle getting the deck in this time, but remember these were the days before ‘tapers sections’. And each venue or even staff may present a different challenge. But not here, thank goodness. Out in the hallway, the Hell’s Angels wandered about sporting full colors and big grins. They may have been transporting ‘party favors’ and decided to take in a show. Or maybe the Angels were just road tripping with the band (although I didn't see them at the next few shows). My buddy even brought his 68 year old mother to the show. She sat up in the stands “It is just too loud down there!” Anyway, I headed down to the floor with my Nak 550 to set up in front of the soundboard. When I started to get my gear set up and saw this guy beside me with a great rig. Luckily this kind stranger (I have since discovered he was famous taper Bob Wagner) then let me patch out of the back of his deck, which was wonderful as he had a great 8 ft. tall mike stand set-up. He had a Sony deck and mics, but with that high stand his mic’s were well above the crowd noise. We were about 15 to 20 feet in FOB. So Garcia treated us to a blistering Sugaree opener, the kind that drove the crowd wild. His leads mounted into a wave that crests, recedes, regroups, and comes back rolling in with such power and delight that adds a synergistic effect to our frenzied response as his rolling/soaring guitar work lift and subside with that band. Then Beat In on Down the Line, TLEO and now it was Bob’s turn in the spotlight with a Look’s like Rain. About halfway through the song, I suddenly noticed something shimmering in the air between the band and me. I thought “what a fantastic light show! Or have I have shifted into fifth gear just a little early that I scheduled?” I staggered towards that disturbance in front of me to investigate. People were dancing wildly in the middle of the floor as a waterfall played over them. It was about 25 feet in circumference. I put my hand in, water…hand out, no rain..I am standing in front of an indoor waterfall. what to do? I jumped into pouring rain that was INSIDE the middle of the auditorium! Then I stepped back and was out of it. I shook my head and then lunged back into the deluge and danced through Looks Like Rain & then during Direwolf as well and a delightful All Over now. (Complete with Donna in perfect pitch!) Then Candyman and Lazy>Supplication before Bobby informed us “We’re going to take a short break”. I staggered back to reload a new tape and then I did look for some validation of my experience. And I asked my friends if I was not in fact ‘soaking wet’ as I patted my soaked shirt. They grinned knowingly and affirmed that, yes, in fact I was “all wet”. And then this unique show continued, (nice indoor water-feature, boys !) with a killer second set complete with a transportive Estimated> Eyes> drums> Wharf Rat> Truckin> Iko Iko> Around. And then after a lengthy absence from the stage the boys returned to play us ‘Promised Land” as an encore. As I left the auditorium I noticed the water standing on the ground outside, a summer storm? Was this a case of a leaky roof or didn't the Dead just conjure up the forces of nature as they were so prone to do? But back to the important stuff, what were the Dead going to do next? Would Phil rev up his reverse gravity machine and pummel us with Phil-bombs at the next show? Would they levitate the crowd, and have us all dance while floating in the 'cool Colorado range'? I HAD to follow them to those Red Rocks shows in 1978. So a road-trip to Colorado it was. This was the Dead’s first Red Rocks jaunt (and my first as well, although my girlfriend (now wife) had seen Joni Mitchell there previously and raved about the venue) so my anticipation was so ‘high’. (In many ways.) So I packed my taping and camping gear and off we went. When we walked up to the Rocks entrance, the Feyline security crew (or were they the John Scher guys?) were stopping people and inspecting any 'carry in' bags. I thought 'uh oh, this looks rougher than Omaha Nebraska'. A security behemoth that I will call “BigBoy’ stopped me at the entrance to look through my Boy Scout backpack. He hefted my NAK 550 out of the pack and held it aloft with one beefy paw, exclaiming “Hey, you can’t take this in!” I gave him my best perplexed look and said “What it’s just a tape player.” (first lie) Then the giant BigBoy instructs me to “take that back to your car”. I retorted “I can’t, I hitchhiked to the show” (second lie). Beefy Bruiser BigBoy points to my ticket and says “the ticket says no recorders on it, you can't take it in” and I tell him “look I don’t have any microphones” (third lie) and hold up my arms to be searched (of course my comrades had the mics with them). Then I sighed loudly and popped open the back of the Nak deck and let eight D cell batteries drop onto the ground. “Look, I dumped out the batteries, it can't record”. (lie number four) BigBoy stood there with his arms crossed in front of me, but I could see a small crack in his resolve. So I pulled that thread “Look, I hitchhiked all the way here from Nebraska to see this show, would you hold onto this deck for me? It cost me $600 (which in ’78 was a lot of dough) but if you just hold it for me, and then I will find you after the show. You look like an honest guy.” (fifth lie, this guy didn't look trustworthy). I push the Nak towards him, and this deck is huge and weighs a ton, (a goddamn boat anchor). I really played my trump card here and was trying to hold my ‘gameface’, Suddenly all the heads waiting in line behind (and all my friends) erupt with yells at the BigBoy to hurry up and started chanting “let us in”. BigBoy gives his mullet a shake and then he points into the venue and looks at me and exclaims “Go on, get out of here” and I dive headlong into my first Red Rocks show with a grin a mile wide(high)! Followed by Mary with my mics and my buddies with my fresh batteries (re: lie number four) and my blank tapes. The batteries that I dumped out for BigBoy were already ‘dead’ (pun intended). I again ran into that ‘kind stranger’ (Dr. Bob Wagner, FOB right side)) to plug out of his Sony again. Those two shows were stupefying, and the band obviously enjoyed playing there. Bobby's deer joke, and I remember Phil leading the boys through “Cold Rain & Snow” with his bass punching that tune into a triumphant ‘strut’ that evening.I recall Jerry broke a string during the Scarlet>Fire, which really didn't slow the pace of that perfect evening. On into Dancin' >NFA > Black Peter > Around & Around and then a dual encore of US Blues & Johnny B Goode. The next night was much the same. Each night we would watch the clouds chase each other in the sky as the band serenaded us. Until it became dark and then we looked out ‘over’ the Dead to see the distant lights of Denver sparking in the background. Second night second half, we were treated to a tremendous Estimated > Other One> Eyes of the World > drums> Wharf Rat > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Mag. The crowd was especially raucous as Wharf Rat wound to that tender quiet point and Phil (or was it Bobby) gave a "shhhhh" to still us in preparation for that wonderful 'launching' platform/crescendo. Those evenings the Dead's aural wonders were matched with the Red Rocks astounding visuals as we were perched in between those massive stony slabs jutting into the sky. The Dead's stage view was spectacular as well looking up at the throng of deadheads dancing sandwiched in then red rocks with the stars twinkling above us. As the Dead those two evenings took us all on an astounding journey of Americana, myth, rock and roll, country, space, jam, fable, fun, roller coaster, and turn on a dime delights, it all 'rolled into one'. And then as the Dead finished us all off with “Werewolves of London” we were all crooning back to the dead with our own howl of “Aoooooo”. And Garcia was grinning ear to ear as he bid us all a “good night”. Happy July 8th. The Teacher opens the door, but you must enter by yourself.
  • estimated-eyes
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    Those were a two of the first shows I had on cassette back in 1988 and night one is still one of my favorites. The second set is just plain old solid-- really good China-Rider, Estimated-Eyes with a good peaking solo from Jerry in Estimated (as you all have been discussing). It has always been disappointing that better quality recordings haven't surfaced of Alpine 85 and 87.
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    One show I really love is the third night of Irvine, April 19th. Doesn't hurt that this was my first run of shows, my 14 year old life was changed forever for which I am eternally grateful! While there are no big jams, indeed only Wharf Rat threatens to hit the 10 minute mark, the execution is very strong, Brent is definitely on and it's a really fun listen with a unique setlist.
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    And you used a THIN black Sharpie? Should've used at least a FINE black Sharpie...
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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on a post in this thread from October 21 at 5:05pm where there was a spotting on dead.net of a banner saying that Dave's Pick 17 would be July 13, 1984 at the Greek, which apparently was immediately taken down. I posted a copy of this on my Dead blog http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2015/10/daves-picks-17-berkeley-gre… My raising of the rumor is based on several actual dead.net readers seeing this banner. I do not know if it is true, but it would be cool. I'd still prefer the 1982 Greek shows or the 1972 Berkeley High School (Community Theater) shows
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While at the Jerry Memorial in GGP - "the days between" was playing on the sound system - it to this day is the most amazing version I have ever heard with a long intro. It sounded like it might have been a studio version?? Very long. Can anyone shed some light for me on this? Thanks so much.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:38:18 -0700From: kraitch@EECS.Berkeley.EDU (mark kraitchman) To: dead-heads@nemesis.Berkeley.EDU Subject: setlist [Sunday August 13, 1995] What follows is mostly a setlist posted to rec.music.gdead by David Gans (with a few embellishments). If anybody has more complete transcriptions of the speeches please share them. Note the music was previous recordings; except for the parade and drumming there was no live music... It is estimated that about 20,000 people were there. Sunday August 13, 1995 Golden Gate Park Polo Field, San Francisco CA Jerry Garcia Memorial Gathering Days Between - Spring tour 1994 composite http://hake.com/gordon/latest.html
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My socks were blown off by the Wharf Rat outro Jam into the Playing reprise ever since I heard it again this past spring while I was volunteering picking up (tons of) trash at a beautiful local park. Once upon a time, when mp3 files where made freely downloadable at the Taper's Section, the segment from Terrapin on through the end of the show was one of the selections distributed. So, when I noticed this was the 1977 selection for 30 trips I was stoked this was getting official release treatment because I was aware of the heat of the jam.I'm looking forward to set II of the '78 trip today. I don't know where I am going to hit next (maybe '80's?)...
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So - Though I'm going in order with the Box (up to '72 now), Lindley Meadows is an exception. I've heard that show so many times it doesn't matter if I listen to it out of order. Anyway, I'm CRANKING that the other night while my wife and 6 year old were taking a shower. They come in to the room, PJ's on, and The Music Never Stopped has just started. Next thing I know, the three of us are dancing like we're at a show, laughing our asses off. My wife hates the Dead, basically. But no one can resist the power of Lindley Meadows. NWScarletFireGuy - thanks for posting that story about your 11-year old - great story! Made me think of posting this. I love the Grateful Goddamn Dead. EDIT: This box set is the greatest thing in the history of recorded music.
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good story about the family getting involved in your little obsession. Mine is the same way it seems; wifey = not a big fan, but I am slowly wearing her down...she now recognizes Shakedown Street, Eyes of the World, Estimated Prophet, and actually has verbally stated she enjoys Scarlet Begonias (see, it's working). But the best part is my 15-month old son LOVES to groove to the Dead. It is always on in the car to/from daycare, and then I am usually home first so I almost always put on a show and crank it up, and he comes into the room bopping his head up and down and doing little knee bends, clearly trying to be in-time with the music, huge grin on his face. And he only started walking about 6 weeks ago so his balance is still a little iffy but man is it great fun to see him engaged. Then the icing on the cake is when the wifey comes home and finds us bopping and grooving to the music, she almost always joins in. As I said - she's comin' around...slowly but surely, I am determined....
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This is a great box set and I'm very happy I bought it, but there is one depressing thing: it really highlights how they peaked early and went down hill steadily as time went by. Listening to the shows in order: 67-70 are just astonishingly amazing.Their improvisation is just fantastic. 71-74 are great but a bit more tame. 76-77 have some great stuff but can't be compared to earlier jams.The improv isn't anywhere near 67-70. 78 onward - meh. Not much at all to get excited about. From here on out they just went down toward a slow death. I know many will disagree. I figure there are just different kinds of Dead Heads who like different types of music. Those that dig the roots of the Dead - the wild, improvisational long jams. Early stuff. Those that like the utter raw stuff. Those that like more song oriented stuff. Then there are those that are mostly attracted to the "scene". The "tribal" tent scene, where the focus is less on the actual musical talent. They like just hanging out, taking drugs, selling stuff in the parking lot, being part of a "hip scene". They might like the Dead from the 80's for that reason. Music-wise the 80's just plain sucked. Note:I'm talking in very general overall, birds eye view terms. An occasional one song or jam jem in later years doesn't change my opinion. There just aren't any full shows in later years that are even in the same ballpark as earlier shows. My opinion.
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I think you got it just about right.
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Yes, clearly 80's Dead sucks, and people who enjoy it must be on drugs or were there for the scene. Nothing insulting about that post. Bravo guys, your condemnation is much appreciated.
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@ZuckfunSorry my opinion doesn't line up with yours. Maybe that's against the law where you live. It's not in California so I assumed I had a right to an opinion that wasn't identical to yours.
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Opinions yes, insults not so much. Perhaps it's a lack of a talent the inability to share an opinion without insulting people.
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without insulting a whole generation of Heads. Your subjective opinion is just that. But relatively speaking the Dead in the 80's was a welcome contrast to the likes of synth driven crap like Kajagoogoo & Starship's we built this city. Homer Simpson said that it's a known fact that rock and roll peaked in 1974. That may be true but the show must go on & it did for the Dead in a still meaningful way. Sure I prefer Houses of the Holy Zeppelin to what came out of Jimmy Page & Plant in the 1980's, but time moves on. Very few artists continue to peak 20 plus years into a career.
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Random digression from the topics on this board but I had to share it. Heard a story from a guy who is usually into good music but for some reason can't handle the Dead. The guy grew up in Alaska working at the fisheries in the summer and as a teenager he had to watch over all of the guys gutting and packing up the fish in a warehouse. He was also in charge of the music. He said they were all deadheads working summer in Alaska. The music selection was hundreds of dead tapes with no name, just a date and location. Some guy named psycho Bob would take a sledge hammer to the top of the corrogated roof yelling to throw on Hollywood 72, no Cornell 77, and wouldn't stop hitting the roof until he had the right show going. The guy has flashbacks to sorting through hundreds of tapes, just dates and locations, with psycho bob and the other fishermen yelling to keep the music going. This went on for several summers and he seemed really traumatized from the constant demand to keep the live dead going.
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Please stop calling me psycho bob. It was a long time ago, its not a nice nickname and I am trying very hard to move on. Edit: Bang Bang Bang. 6/18/74, Louisville. BANG, BANG BANG.
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lol, well, I don't believe the scene changed all that much, and I think all eras enjoyed it. You have to be more considerate on here and not lump everyone into one basket. I agree that the music took a downward trajectory, and personally, I don't listen to much after '78. Nassau and Dead Set are enjoyable. The reason is that Brent's voice instantly makes my bunghole pucker (I know, not ladylike), and that tinky-tonk fisher price toy keyboard sound (lol, someone else once used that term, funny) he employed in the mid to late 80s simply does not mix in well with the other instruments - it's a tonal thing, it just sounds like it's on top of the rest of the music not in harmony with it. I think "tone deaf" is the word you were looking for....all of those 80s fans are not drugged out, they're tone deaf....
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@LoveJerrySo do I. In fact, I'm a Jerry Head, not a Dead Head. Without Jerry, OMG they are so boring! Sorry guys who can't take other opinions, but for me everything that came after Jerry bores me to tears. Tone deaf - yeah, I can go with that. Scene - sure, it changed a great deal. HUGELY. Interviews with Jerry and others will attest to it. Music was the focus early on. Later it was the scene. This isn't idle subjective speculation on my part. It's clear and the Dead are the ones who described the change. It culminated in the last years with gate crashes, injuries, and general craziness, as if it were a Led Zeppelin concert.
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Tone deaf, really? This is the wrong forum for that. Take the negativity, insults and closed-mindedness to the proper forum on that FB page where they still openly condone/encourage stealing officially released music. The shows from the box I haven't heard yet are '73, '78, '81, '91, the second set of '94 and '95. My current favorite is the '88 show. Possibly the most flawlessly executed performance next to the '67 show, another favorite. So far, the only show that I've listened to twice is '82, which I liked more the second time. I haven't heard a show from this box I disliked. If the rumored pick to kickoff the 2016 subscription is indeed 7/13/84, this will be my favorite subscription year since 2011 Road Trips. Excellent choice and essential. Now Weir talking!
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Ok. So let's say you prefer pre '80 Dead to post '80 Dead. But what about post '80 Dead compared to the rest of what was out there in the rest of the music world in the '80's. Hair bands? The end of disco? I think when you look at it that way the post '80 Dead measures up just fine! I am one who likes all Dead. Sure, there are differences in the stages of the band but I love them all. That is why I think this box is just about the be-all and end-all. I am amazed at how good the '90's shows here sound. Awesome to these old ears. And after '81 I only saw the band one more time live, in '87. I am thrilled that this box gives everyone a chance to get out of their comfort zone and I think most of us will find happiness there. Rock on
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I'm trying to stream one of the older taper's section entries. On the newer ones, it works fine, but on older ones, like say the "Run Run Rudolph" from the December 4-December 10, 2006 Taper's Section, what I get is it tries to go to this url: http://mfile.akamai.com/72222/mov/sos2208-1.streamos.download.akamai.co… and then a Authentication Window comes up asking for a Userid and Password with the following text: "Enter username for Streaming Server at a117.v722228.c72222g.vq.akamaistream.net: I have no idea what to put there, and if I don't put anything I get a "401 Unauthorized" message. Does anyone know how to stream these older entries?
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this is a known bug that the tech folks are aware of. Sorry for the trouble. It's definitely not you.
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Too funny, man. Jeffmil, great fkin story, I can picture the poor guy rifling through those tapes searching for the right one...hahaha.
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Thank you very much Mary!! I won't keep trying for now, then :)
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Well something has to account for it, the boy can't sing! It was a tongue in cheek remark.
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Why do I feel like this line of argument is going to lead to a cheap shot at my girl....
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Well you asked for it. She's horrible! I wish she was on a separate track so I could get a mixer and mix her out of the '70's. LOL!
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hbob1995, you are probably right about comparing the Dead to other '80's bands. Fine. But the point of my original post was that the one downside to this box set is that it makes it quite natural to compare the Dead as the "progressed" (although I would call it "devolved"). For instance, listening to 1976 is so boring compared to '69-70! They are tired, the transitions between songs are lame, and there is no improvisation the way there used to be. And I want to LOVE 1976 because that's the year I started going to a lot of shows! I loved them, but I'd pay anything to be able to go to a 1970 show. Mind blowing in comparison. I stopped going in 1980 when I saw them and couldn't believe how far they had sunk. Yeah, better than the "big hair" bands, but after seeing greater shows it was hard to sit there and listen to them phone it in.
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If anyone has a copy of the Dead Ahead Bonus Disc and is willing to trade for some other hard to find Bonus Disc, please let me know. Still living the 30 Trips around the Sun collection. Find myself still coming back to the Golden Gate Park 1975 concert. Simply beautiful. Peace
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The 80s chart music sucked of course. But we're talking about the love of good music here, so comparing 80s Dead to the mainstream is somewhat off-beam. The 80s had Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Mission of Burma, Bad Brains, Smiths, The Fall, PiL ... and that's just the stuff I liked; there's other stuff like Joy Division, The Cure, REM, Green On Red, Pixies, Throwing Muses, Minutemen, Crass, Jesus & Mary Chain; I could go on all night, but you get the point. Even so, 'Loser' from July 22nd 1984, for one, can easily hold it's own with any of this company. Obviously Smack & Coke will compromise art, but the Dead had a very long way to fall before bands in the common run could even begin to stand comparison. YMMV of course :-)
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Yeah Brent sucked I don't care I love it and always will.
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First off, WOW! That Hell In A Bucket opener from 7/3/88 may be the most explosive and powerful opener of any show in the box. They're playing at a full-on grand finale level right out of the gate with Jerry just viciously attacking his guitar. The gig just picks up steam from there and gets downright nasty throughout in a Grateful Dead rocking it out kind of way. Even the second set Touch of Grey opener is full of explosive energy. I'm officially jealous of everyone who attended this "Masterpiece" of a show (both shows actually) and ranks up there with 8/27/72 as a one I most "wish I'd been there" moment. The other night of this run, which hasn't been released yet is even better. I haven't heard everything from the box yet, but this is the top contender as my box favorite which I will revisit very often. This is the show to bust out at parties and for newbies. Every note, beat and word executed with absolute perfection and the audio quality is PHAT! @Keithfan2112 - for an '80s mix tape, there are a lot of great performances I think you would like. I'll put something together for you to check out. 7/3/88 is a great starting point.
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I don't like Brent. I don't think the two have anything to do with each other. Jerry was in the band either way. Was the playing a little more predictable? Sure. Was Jerry's voice a little more ragged? Absolutely. But anyone who doesn't enjoy Jerry and the boys during that decade (especially post-coma) is missing out.
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The Dead is the only band that I love everything they did, in all the different sounds and lineups. Love being able to throw on a Viola, Clementine, Potato, Alligator, Mountains, Ripple, Half Step, Here Comes Sunshine, Eyes, Scarlet, Terrapin, Shakedown, West La, Alabama, Black Muddy River, Standing on the Moon, Touch, Lazy River, Days Between and So many Roads. And that's a VERY short list of extremely great songs from the band's various eras. There's so much to love about each era, comparing them is sort of a blazed reason to dislike anything. This doesn't sound like this!!! Well yeah that's because they aren't doing that...they are doing something else though that is beautiful. I prefer 68-69 but when listening to other years I'm not thinking about how they don't sound like they did in 68-69... that's out of gourd.
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I too liked the 80's dead, saw about 125 80's shows. I always loved brent and thought he was a good addition. As my old man used to say "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink". And my old man was a classy guy.
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Dennis, If your old man's still around, I want to party with him. That's classic.. I will be sure to use that phrase a lot myself.
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Funny. I am working my way through the box sequentially and this afternoon I got up to 1987, the one show from the box that I attended. As I was listening and feeling the hair on the back of my neck stand up, I checked out this thread and saw all the shade thrown on 80's dead. Whatever, to each his own, but to me part of the appeal is the changes that they went through. I mean its a period of 30 years, how could they not wander off in some different directions from time to time? Listening to the Dead sets my mind free whatever era.
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It was going on well before the 80-90 era of Dead.
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I went to shows 90-95, and it just wasn't young folks acting like drunkin asses...plenty of blame to go around
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Trick or Treat is here tonight in my neighborhood. A perfect night to que up some 80's Drums > Space jams And a perfect night for the probably the entire neighborhood and me to get its first listen of this massive box set. *Ticket = 10.27.91 *Backstage Pass = 6.11.93 - Buckeye Lake - awesome 1st set, one of my favorites from Vince era. And the pass is awesome. Astronaut with a skeleton face AHAHAH !! 10.28.84 - BCT - 2nd set - very nice and the Drums is awesome !!!!! Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
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Dr Rhino says I get a replacement Box.That's much better than a Halloween trick of no Box. With all these 'replacement' Boxes going out you would think that the production count would be >20,000.
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Dead and Co stream Ustream @ tapperrob
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I glad to hear that you're finally getting your 30 Trips box.
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...all this 80s bashing. I started listening to the box set in reverse order. 95 on down. Currently on disc 3 of 1983. I absolutely LOVE the 80s stuff...AND the 90s stuff. So far, 93 is the only show of the box, IN MY OPINION, that lacks a bit of energy. Yet I still enjoyed it. And really, that's all it's about. Me (and whomever) enjoying! Loving this trip!!!!
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Dr. Rhino promises a "replacement" box will be shipped ASAP to me in Atlanta. What is going on here? Did the Southeast UPS warehouse get raided by pirates?
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Clearly evil geopolitical forces are at play. This is no mere act of piracy.
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Good grief,good stuff.:)
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Dream Bowl is fantastic.:)
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