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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
March 19, 2015

dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

Joined:
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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

Joined:
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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

Joined:
September 19, 2007

shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

@mbarilla - is that Mickey behind that mask?

Reminds me of that scene in Platoon...

Reply : is that Mickey behind that mask?

I think it is, Billy looks like he may be holding him steady, so he doesnt fall over. Looks like he is chalking up a big hit

'89 show

I'm always interested to hear opinions that are a little different from the general consensus. The Miami '89 show has long been held in high regard and I really enjoyed it as I skip around the box at my leisure. My initial impression was that if someone doesn't like Brent or Jerry's "froggy" voice then this show will not change their mind. But for those who like it all this is a damn good show. The first set really rocks from start to finish and for me, the highlight is the kick ass Victim. I know a lot of people don't like this song and I didn't either until I heard it at Richfield, on the floor in '94 and somehow the light bulb turned on. After that I would listen to tapes and hear Victim and think, "How did I not like this song before?" If ever there was a Victim to change someone's mind I would suggest this one from '89. The second set is fantastic as well. I particularly enjoyed the prelude (with a lower case p) to Dark Star. The Dark Star itself is great but the mini jam before it is unique to my ears and exactly the kind of thing that gets me excited about these releases. I found the '88 show to be somewhat underwhelming, particularly the rather sloppy late segment but I'm surprised to hear that some are unimpressed with the '87 show. I'm far from an expert on '80s Dead but I've always considered 9-18-87 as a top five post 70s show and this release reinforced my opinion (I love it). But I've not delved deeply into that decade since my kids were born 16 years ago.

Comical

I have no problem with and fully respect OMGWAMS, as music is subjective. Whatever moves you moves you, whatever doesn't doesn't. However, it cracks me up to read criticisms of 9-18-87 based on the notion that there are better versions of some of the songs out there. Well of course there are, no shit. That can be said for every release as no one single show (other than Boreal Ridge of course) contains the best version of every song, not even Cornell. This is a particularly silly view of things in the context of this box set, given that its focus was to provide a historical snapshot of the band for each and every year. And this show does just that quite well. A show is the sum of its parts and the 9-18-87 show is an overwhelmingly way above average 1987 show at worst (don't take my word, it finished way high in Deadbase reader polls for years, among other Deadhead metrics) and was the perfect choice here among shows available for release in the vault. Not everything that has a "killer version of ____" is in the vault in condition to be released, nor do you release a show for an individual part unless it is a pretty special Dark Star or jamming vehicle.

Scott Weiland - RIP

It's a shame, hopefully drugs did not take another charismatic singer.

outpost

I hear ya. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of update sent out late this week to let us know about the USB status or was that just a rumor?

Free ticket with purchase

I ordered a couple tee shirts (wow 30 trips shirt material is basically a rag AHAHAH LOL) and got the ticket for 1.28.87 , Chinese New Year and 1st show of 1987 :) Maybe when my ticket collects dust I will use that 30 trips tee shirt I bought to wipe it off,, what ever happened to Hanes Beefy Tees ? 9.18.87 great choice, Sept 87 is very nice 11.15.87 another primo show from 1987

T-shirt quality

Felt the same way about the FTW T's. Did not go to any shows but bought a Santa Clara one and the Terrapin one and I fear both will not stand up to the test of time. The Wolf shirt from Jerry site was nice quality.

USB SHIPPING NEXT WEEK

Just received an email notice.

Finally some news !

Dear 30 Trips USB customer, We will be shipping out your 30 Trips Around The Sun USB next week. We apologize for the delay in getting it to you. If you have any questions or concerns, please reply to this email or call 877-332-3638 (+434-205-7051 for international customers). We very much appreciate you sticking it out with us. Best, The Dead.net Team

USB'rs Rejoice

VERY glad to hear the USB Gang will indeed be getting their wares before Christmas. Hope it all rounds out without a hitch and that your joy is pervasive. Sincerely, Sixtus

DJMAC520 => 9/18/87

I'm amused at your amusement:) I guess I should have elaborated - If 9/18/87 is the best 1987 has to offer (as is pretty much indicated in the liner notes, and by you of course), and I can find a better Terrapin, Bird Song, Morning Dew, Candyman, Sugaree, etc, on EVERY 70s release, then why listen to 1987 at all. Don't mistake me - I'm a big fan of the Who too, and I enjoyed every note of their 50th tour immensely while I was at the show, but to playback a recording of it does not satisfy, because Townshend is a shadow of his former self, and Daltrey's voice is the equivalent of Jerry after '85 or whenever, and so, I would never listen to a live Who gig on CD from 2015 - I would go back to when they sounded good on record. It's just the nature of the beast. Same with the Stones. Same with Dead & Co; the show was great, I had a blast, but I would never waste my time listening to a CD of it, when I could be spending that time listening to One From The Vault. Maybe when I'm good and tired of everything that's been released from '66 - '78 will I go to something as 'relatively' inferior as Madison Square Garden, 1987. But I'll answer my own question - I've been taking the best of the newer live renditions and making mixes of them, since I obviously can't go back to the 70s for Foolish Heart or Throwing Stones or Feel Like A Stranger. That's a good use of several shows I had to buy to get the good stuff.

USB

WOW, that is great news.Very happy to think that those who have been waiting will receive this before Christmas. I'm sure many people have time off and it will be great for them to have this in hand. Based on my first listen, everyone should be very happy they never canceled their order.

1972

Two questions: Does everyone have the bad sound towards the end of Jack Straw? That was a bummer and I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Second, in Loser, Jerry adds the 'Sweet Suzie' later in the song than usual. I'm just curious, does anyone know when that line was permanently dropped from the song?I thought a great show, I'm down to one left for virgin ears, '77, before I start all over again!

USB to UK

Have doubts mine will arrive before Xmas, unless they lay on some kind of special shipping.Usually takes a couple of weeks, so will probably get lost in the mail !

Sweet Suzy

I believe he dropped it late '72/ early '73. Others on this site can cite the exact instance. As for the noise in 'Jack' (wheeze?) it's on my copy as well

Sweet Soozie

I'll take Obscure Dead Lyric Trivia for 1000 Alex, and I'm gonna go with 5/19/74 aka Dave's Picks Volume 9, aka Dinosaurs, the Dead, and the Land of No Return for the last Sweet Soozie. Who knows for sure. That's the latest one in time I can think of on an official release (which are more my province - I'm sure there are ton of soundboards that may contain it); I don't recall any post-hiatus utterings of Sweet Soozie.

Thanks so much

To Dead.net for the latest email. Happy 50th to all. Can't wait to get home and put on something real good. Hope usb is solved soon.

Dave' Picks 9 - Loser

would make my list of primo tracks from Dave's Picks series. These dont have Sweet Susie but they are all very nice. --Dave's 8 with another top tier Loser. Dave's 8 start to finish is Top Class and nearly flawless. --Dick's Picks 20 - 9.25.76 - Loser And one that is officially unreleased but soon to be... The Grateful Dead Live at Stanley Theatre on December 1, 1979. Loser is one of the prizes for that night. Same with 7.22.84 - Loser :) With "Sweet Suzie" 1979 - Loser with "Sweet Suzie" - 1.10.79, but this show is famous for other reasons. 1974 - Loser with "Sweet Suzie" - 6.18.74, also famous for other reasons. Most of this show has been released.

1982

As always, I'm getting caught up so I am several pages behind, but I did want to comment and say I loved the 1982 show. For the Brent era thus far in the box, '79 did nothing for me, my least favorite at that point...'80 was better, '81 also was lackluster to me, but loved '82. Giving a relisten just to that mini-box now to reappraise. Also, for those into the new Dylan set, THIS is how you make someone's Friday: "Dear Collector, We hope you are enjoying The Cutting Edge 1965-1966: The Bootleg Series Volume 12: Collector's Edition. Thanks again for your purchase! The holidays are coming early for you via a special gift from Columbia Records: 208 tracks encompassing more than ten hours of previously unreleased live Bob Dylan performances from his landmark 1965 tours, including 14 complete concerts – both acoustic and electric - and an array of recordings from television shows, hotel rooms, and other live appearances." Downloading now. :D

Suite Souxie and T-Shirts

The Sweet Susie discussion is interesting. I doubt if the date fell exactly after an official release (but it might have). Still, I think KeithFan is just about perfect in his answer. T-Shirts.. thanks for someone picking up on this. I quit buying them from official channels because the quality and sizing are 3rd world. Come on people.. pick up on this and give us at least a half decent product for chrissakes. That's purely and simply function of either management asleep at the wheel or more cynically a bit of greed in the pot. I am less aggressive about the delays and CD issues so long as they do finally stand behind their product and get stuff fixed, after all, everything musically related they release has aged at least 20 years in oak before they bottle it by now. But merch quality bugs me and the FTW slip in of non GD music bothers me because it was sold as a pre-order. Anyway.. I am off my high horse, I am really enjoying both Dave's 16 and the LA 67 show from the box at the moment. Nothing slacking in quality from these two offerings. Have a good weekend all. Get better quality T-Shirts, Dead.Net. ________________ Sorry to rant, I am far from disgruntled.. just a minor pet peeve. Have a good weekend all.

USB Will Be Shipping Next Week

Dylan Set

Thanks for sharing the info., that is some addition to the set. I thought it was pricey when I first looked at it but 10 hours of unreleased material sure makes that better. What a gift to people who must be true fans.

Sweet Soozie?

I would like to know when he started asking for ten gold dollars, instead of just one gold dollar. Crazy inflation rate. It would be funny if the same applied to say, Wharf Rat..."He asked me for a dollar, a dollar for a cup of coffee..."

Beautiful Space from that 1983 Trip in Woostah

Still being wowed by my chronological journey. I'm listening to the Worcester 1983 show. Blown away by Space > Truckin' - after listening to the whole show, on my third run on that sequence after a couple of trips on Scarlet > Fire. Wow that was some of the most beautiful Space I've heard. I know it says "Sage and Spirit" Jam in Deadbase, but I could swear I heard traces of Victim in embryotic form from Bobby. I jumped over to the show thread, but no one's posted anything recently and the former posts did mention Sage and Spirit. Guess I need to do a deeper dive. Speaking of T-shirts - I picked up a Europe72 T from Amazon for less than 20 which was a beefy T with the E72 Album cover on both sides. I wore it to the DSO show and a bunch of people kept asking me about it. Off to REMville with a playlist from the 73 trip. Happy 50th!!! Glad to see the Bolters got some positive news, they better overnight them to y'all!

Summary of Known Sound Imperfections?

Hi all, just wondering if there is a good summary of known sound imperfections (those unrelated to scratches) in any of these threads? Thanks.

Re: Crazy Inflation Rate

right.. should be "asked me for Jackson, a Jackson for a cup of latte. That would be in pace with the times.

A Couple of Notes...

I haven't been here in a while. Checking in and glad to see that the USB drives are shipping. Given that they weigh about an ounce, hopefully they will be shipped via a fast and reliable method. Someone mentioned being disappointed that non-GD music was included on the FTW CDs. I will say that while I had a great, great time at the Friday and Sunday Chicago shows (missed Saturday), I have listened to more of the Neal Casal discs than the FTW discs. I think it is really fine stuff. Some sweet GD riffs buried in there, and really nice instrumental music throughout. I think I may try it as background music for our next dinner party, rather than me throwing together a custom mix as usual. I am mainly listening to 30 Trips in order and am only through 1970. All good things in all good time. Oh, and someone mentioned a Space>Truckin'. Wasn't that Deep Purple?

Dylan Bonus

Muleskinner, my many thanks for the heads up. My Dylan purchase was tied to a Gmail account that I check only occasionally, so I might have missed it without your help. It's all downloaded safe & sound on the Macbook now, and I'm gonna plug it in immediately for some loud Saturday grooving. Yee haw!

Europe 72 Tee

one of my favorites, I have 1994 GDM Inc, with the fruits & Liquid Blue tag. The fruits, they always looks so tasty. Bought it new over 20 years ago. The tees are hit or miss on website and shows, I bought a couple tees at Dead and Company show, one was Liquid Blue, very nice. I prefer Liquid Blue and Hanes Beefy.

Go Jer

I love those moments in a show when Jer connects with a crowd and it's like a lighting bolt blast the stage and the band explodes in wonderful blissful music. I think these are the moments I listen for in a show and when I hear them I realize why this music is so important to us. Safe to say I wasn,t prepared for it when it happened in the 87 Dew from this box. The energy from it carries the band right through the end of the show. What a great moment in music and how lucky are we to have these kind of moments preserved in this box for the rest of our good lives.

Connecting with the crowd....

....I can't think of any other band that did it better. If that connection happened at a show I attended, albeit it being maybe a couple minutes worth, I walked away a different person. It was tangible. You could reach out and touch it, hug it, caress it, then let it go back to the stage....and no, I necessarily didn't need to be high to be able to grab that golden ring when it happened....mercy.

Boxiila

I'm really enjoying boxilla .... And all your posts. I'm only about 1/3 thru boxilla and am skipping around especially focusing on fav years and fav venues (mostly mass and New England since that is where I saw most my shows). That all being said ... I haven't done deep dives but Here is my take on shows Exceeding expectations....69, 83, 94, 75 ... Especially 69 Shows not exceeding expectations.... 79, 84, 73 Not exceeding expectations doesn't mean they were bad shows, just expecting a little more. I need to spend more time ... Especially with 79. Overall boxilla is meeting expectations. .... And my expectations were huge so that is a good thing. I do have a major static burst in 79 dancing jam ...anyone else have this? Out

10/27/90 snare echo?

Hi gang, has anybody noticed what sounds like an echo on one of drummers snares around the 6:30-6:40 of Sugaree, that last through the rest of disc 1? I hope disc 2 and 3 are better because I'm in the apparent minority of really loving a Bruce/Vinnie show. :)

I Love Varying Opinions!

I'm home, the other five are away, and I'm cranking the '84 show wondering how anyone could not absolutely love this show. Then I read a post, which makes me laugh because one of the three shows that totally underwhelmed me was '69 and the only portion of a show that actually made me scream in ecstasy was the '73 China->Fire. Which is all good! Doesn't mean I'm correct, just means I need to go back and listen to the three meh shows of 69, '79 and '89 IMHO. So keep the reviews coming, I love reading them even if we don't necessarily agree but all agree The Dead Rock!

Sublime Definition 4.15.70

The Jerry solo in Dancing in the Street is extraordinary...just beautiful in the 6:00s. I keep coming back to this groove and am floored every time. My suspicions confirmed...The Audio Dictionary has this Solo filed under their definition of the word 'Sublime'.

4-15-70

Listening for the first time tonight. The first set was fun. The second set: HO...LEE...SHIT! I think someone mentioned earlier that the jam out of drums sounds like Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock and I have to agree; you could almost put it on the set list. Just a great second disc. This one and the '71 show have exceeded my expectations in a big way. So far I've listened to a little more than half the shows (not in order). '73 and '72 are my favorites, but that's no surprise as those are my favorite years. I enjoyed your post, Takimoto. As NWSFG said, "Varying Opinions." The '73 and '79 shows were among those that made me feel I couldn't live without this box and the '84 is indeed one that exceeded my expectations. Below expectations for me so far have been '78 and '88. Funny how we can love the same band yet have such different opinions. Next up for me will be the '83 show, maybe Thursday night.

Dancin in the Street

10.4.70 - skull splitter 5.6.70 - skull splitter

May 14, 1978 Providence Civic

When the complete contents of Boxzilla were announced I was somewhat dismayed that 5/14/78 was the pick for 1978. At the time I was down on Dick's 25 (5/10/78 New Haven, CT. & 5/11/78 Springfield, MA.) and I hadn't listened to either show since I bought it in July of 2002. Good but not spectacular shows, plus the shows were missing two songs each. Earlier this week I "had to" listen to the 5/10 show - it sort of jumped out at me - I liked it very well and continued with the 5/11 discs. Again, it had the same level of intensity as the previous show and I liked it very well. Just this morning I finished listening to May 14 1978 and I thought it was great and it did have the same level of intensity as the the Dick's 25 shows. It's complete, and I do like complete shows for the most part, which allows me be the judge of what I like and what I don't care for. Great choice! I also played Dave's 15 (4/22/78 Nashville Municipal Auditorium) in its entirety about 2 weeks ago and that's a completely different animal compared to the aforementioned shows.

Dick's Picks 25 amazing stuff

Spring 78 is one of my favorite tours to listen to. A lot of top notch highlights. Out of the 4 Dave's Picks from 2015, 4.22.78 would probably rank 2nd. Even with the short 3rd disc. Filler would have knocked that one out of the park Favorite Dave's picks this year was 2.24.74, least favorite was 3.28.73.

Dennis Wilmot

Dennis, thanks for sending the link for that 31 days of December ... I was checking out that link out and his selections ... pretty cool! I'll be looking for his Dec 2015 selections dave

NWScarlet and RDevil

That is funny how some people love certain years and shows and others don't. I will say with 3 little kids and a busy job I rarely get time to just sit and listen to music. Most of my listening is in the car on the way to work in rush hour ... so not fully tuned in. Also, I'm only giving each disk 1 listen through at this point as I want to make sure they aren't defective. I did have major hack in the 79 show that I need a replacement disk for. I recommend all you to do the same. I had another hack in 84 disk but its a song I don't care about so I'm not worried it. I'm only about 1/3 thru Boxilla. But, I will be spending more time with 79, 84, 73. Its funny too because 73 is my fav year so I thought I'd dig San Diego more. I presume these shows will soon exceed expectations upon further review. Speaking of further review, the Patriots just let the Eagles block a punt for a TD right before half. Good grief. peace

1978

I like 78 ... i think it may be an underrated year. I thought the Dave's pick from 4/22 was fabulous. I also love that DP 18 from 78 (I think it was 18 ... forget the actual number). My fav scarlet fire with an awesome Samson before that. Jerry was on fire that nite.

DP '78!

Takimoto: On this topic I couldn't agree more! The opening Bertha is pretty darn impressive too, so is Cold Rain. Hell, it's all great!

1978

As it's been stated before music like all art is subjective. 1978 is my least favorite/go to year.Having seen them twice that year, the performances seemed lackluster and uninspired. Made me think '78 was '77 with a hangover. Also JG's substance abuse was obviously worsening. It seemed the back half of the 2nd sets were becoming less and less. Of course it could have been the shows I'd seen, but 1978 seemed like a bottoming out. Since I've been reading everyone's pro-'78 statements, I've been trying to listen with new/fresh ears. So far I can say Dap7 proves my point while DaP15 has given me new hope. I haven't listened to Boxzilla '78 as I'm waiting for the right time. I do plan on going back and listening to the older releases as well. All in all I enjoy reading everyone's pro/con statements. Keep 'em coming!

re: '78

I've always considered '78 an inconsistent year and it was never among my favorites but DaP15 really got me excited. Then several great folks here posted links to hot '78 shows and I had to question my long held opinion. But I have to say, I wasn't particularly impressed with the '78 show in Boxzilla. I even gave it a second thorough listen to make sure it wasn't just my mood the first time. It just seems a little too "hard rock" if that makes any sense. Maybe my expectations were raised by DaP15 and those other great shows.

re: Takimoto, '73

Interesting, you're thoughts on the '73 show given it's your favorite year (mine too). I really think the format of the discs disrupts the flow in a big way. Not to be negative but I have two complaints about the Box: we should have had jewel cases and the '73 show should have been released in order like the Europe '72 shows. It's the best show in the box (ymmv) and it deserved better. One more disc in the box would not break Rhino's back. I will soon burn this show to discs in the correct order and probably not listen again to the original (at least set 2).The glories of this box far exceed the negatives, though.

Dead Haiku

Favorite Dead Year70. NO! 69. 72 Too

Dick's 25 and 1978

I've said it before, but Dick's 25 is my all-time least favorite official release. I don't mind the "hard rock" aspect of it, and there are a couple of spine-tingling moments in there. It's the way the performances often go off the rails into what is for me an embarrassing over-reaching. It's most obvious on "Dancing in the Streets" and a few other places. I know there's some backstory about hallucinogens, and that would have been fine if they had kept it cool like they did way back when they were learning how to play while being that high. That said, when 1978 is at its best, I really love it. It is perhaps the year with the most edge. And as long as they don't go past it, the energy is electrifying to me. All of the other 1978 releases are among my favorites.

Sad but pretty accurate view of the last tour.

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/06/it_was_the_tour_from_hell_inside_the_gr… A sad portrait of the last tour, it does confirm my suspicions from the shows I saw that summer before I decided to go home after the RFK shows.

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