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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
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August 20, 2016 - 11:39am

#71

supe80

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Box Art Work

I hope someone hasn't asked this already. Does anyone know who did the artwork for the outside of the box?
August 16, 2016 - 12:41pm

#72

johnny361

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hi gang

I spent the day with Cobo 1976. I really like these fall 76 shows with Dicks #20 being a personal favorite since it's release many years ago. This Cobo show is really growing on me with each listen. 30 Trips has been a monster to get through but I love the task! There are still shows I haven't spent time with.. but I will!
August 8, 2016 - 7:16am

#73

KYTrips

Joined:
August 25, 2012

1975

So... this is another show that's a bit tough to grade. It's relatively short for a Dead show (I think it was just one long set), and I'm guessing that they were part of a bill that included other bands at this free show in Golden Gate Park. Also, it's one of only 4 shows that they played in 1975, so I'm guess they were a bit rusty, though you wouldn't think so from the performance itself. It starts off with a really sold Help > Slipknot that sounds a bit strange without the third jewel of Franklin's Tower, but that comes later in the show. Then there's a long break as the band attempt to summons a doctor from the crowd because a woman is apparently having a baby somewhere near/behind the stage. This alone makes the show memorable. They then move into a really, really good Music Never Stopped, followed by They Love Each Other. Beat It On Down the Line is above-average, in my opinion and it's followed by a good Franklin's Tower. Big River is straightforward, and the first disc ends with a routine It Must Have Been the Roses. The second disc starts off with an above-average Truckin' followed by a good jam and Drums. That heads into an excellent Stronger Than Dirt/Milkin' the Turkey which eventually leads into 10+ minute Not Fade Away which is light on lyrics and strong on jamming. The show ends with Going Down the Road Feeling Bad and a very energetic One More Saturday Night. The highlight of this show for me is the Music Never Stopped, but there really are no off numbers in the entire show. It's a consistently good show from start to finish. Overall Grade: B
July 23, 2016 - 8:55am

#74

unkle sam

Joined:
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1990 1994

Just returned from a long road trip and listened to these two shows in their entirety during this trip. 1994 was the first listen. Show starts off with a nice Help>Slip>Franklins that is nice, Jerry in good form and everyone contributing their parts, not the best, but not bad. Then Walkin blues, not my favorite and Bobby's slide work is ok at best, then Atlhea, a good tune done well by Jer. Me and My Uncle, Big River and Just like Tom Thumb's Blues, no real Jerry in MAMU, BR just ok and JLTTB's has Phil taking lead vocals, enough said. An ok So Many Roads and Jerry sounds tired, voice a bit shaky and "old Jerry" sounding. Promised Land is good, with Bobby in fine voice, which ends the first set. Second set starts off with Scarlet>Fire, scarlet is ok but the Fire is grate, with Jerry getting his voice to perform about as good as it can get for these days. Way to go Home is next and I always liked this song, Vince in fine form throughout with Jerry adding some fine lead lines. Then into Saint of Circumstances, no Lost Sailor which I miss and wish they would not have dropped from the list, it's the better of the two tunes. A nice Terrapin with Jerry hitting all the notes and lyrics into a short but very trippy drums into an excellent space with Jerry showing us all that he can still blow heads away. Everytime there is "The last time" after a drums>space you know it was a great drums>space, like you know this could be the last time you ever hear that wonderful sound again. A good but short Stella with Jerry sounding tired in both voice and playing into a good OMSN. The encore is Liberty, a great tune that Jerry flubs the lyric on, but comes back and repeats it right. Thought the sound was ok, but a little boomy All in all a good show but....C+. 1990, good first set with a great Jack-a roe black throated wind ramble on rose and bird song, Jerry in fine voice and playing with bruce on the piano making it all sound nice. The second set here is very good, Chinacat, rider and saint all done well, very deliberate and a bit on the slower side, which is nice. At Crazy fingers and this is where it starts to get real good, the ending jam in Crazy Fingers has a bit of the x factor and was very nice then into Playing>drums>space>playing reprise, just awesome all of it, I highly recommend it. The stella is very nice into throwing stones into a great NFA with crowd chant into a fine one more Saturday nite. All in all a good show from France. The sound was ok, but had a bit of an echo in spots, not sure if it was the audience singing along or an echo, but was a bit distracting in places, a bit boomy in parts also, but all in all, not bad....a solid B. I haven't had time to get to all of them, but these two I took along just to give them a good listen, was not disappointed. For the 90's, both shows were ok, but not the same band we all fell in love with in the 60's and 70's.
July 19, 2016 - 2:12pm

#75

KYTrips

Joined:
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1974

I will go out on a limb here and officially declare the 1974 show as the first "miss" of this embarrassment of riches known as 30 Trips Around the Sun. First of all, there are a few sound-related issues that I had to overcome. The overall sound "quality" is very good, but I definitely thought that Jerry's guitar was too low in the mix (who does that... puts Jerry's guitar low in the mix?!!!?) and then there is the issue with the vocals for the first 2 songs of the second set ("Loose Lucy" and "Big River") which are missing. I mean... they're there, but they're apparently not being picked up by the mic intended to pick them up or they didn't make it to the recorder... Whatever's going on, they're not to be heard in these recordings, unless you lean into the speaker and hear them buried somewhere off in the distance. In any event, it annoys me, and I think it spoils what would have otherwise been a pretty decent "Loose Lucy" (one of my faves). In addition, this show contains a between sets "Seastones." Not my favorite in any case. So... this show was fighting an uphill battle for me. The show kinda begins with the boys being a bit sloppy. The "Uncle John's Band" opener is nice, but uneven. "Jack Straw", "Friend of the Devil" and "Black-Throated Wind" are all unremarkable. The standalone "Scarlet Begonias" is a notch up from the previous songs, but that tune was still really finding its legs in the Dead's repertoire in '74. The next 5 tunes are again, unremarkable. The first CD ends with a nice "To Lay Me Down." I have to admit, I'm partial to this song. I've always loved it and thought it was underrated as a Dead song. The first set ends with a 23+ minute Playing In the Band which is good, but again, nothing special for this era. Then we are faced with "Seastones" and the aural problems mentioned previously to start the second set. A good "Peggy O" and an unremarkable "Me and My Uncle" round out Disc 2. The meat of this show (and presumably, the reason it was included in 30 TATS) is in Disc 3. Things finally take off with a wonderful "Eyes of the World" and the rest of the show is pretty darn good. Highlights for me included the Truckin' > Drums > Caution Jam sequence, which is pretty hot. The "Drums" is particularly interesting in that in addition to Billy on drums, Phil is also participatory in the part of the show. "Ship of Fools" is really nice and smooth and the "Johnny B. Goode" to close the set is also pretty smokin'. "U.S. Blues" is a good encore and a nice way to round out the evening. I'll be brutally honest... I don't think this show would have ever merited release on it's own, so it was, in my opinion, thrown into this box set. I certainly hope it's not the best there is remaining in the vault from 1974. However, I'd be less than honest if I didn't acknowledge that the third disc of the show is pretty darn good. But it certainly was my least favorite show thus far in the box. Grade: C+
July 18, 2016 - 7:59am

#76

KYTrips

Joined:
August 25, 2012

1973

It took me a little while longer to get to this review than I would have liked... Life's been busy with vacation and then I was in trial for a week (I'm an attorney... don't throw rocks), so my listening has been sporadic for the past few weeks. At any rate, let me start off by saying that this show is a total GEM!! Although I don't think it's the best of the box, so far, I do think it might be my favorite so far. It starts off again with a "Big Railroad Blues" which to me is a sign of good things to come (see my review from 1972). The next few songs (Jack Straw, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues) are all good, but nothing special. After all, it's just the first set. But then, this show morphs into a classic. "Here Comes Sunshine" is one of those songs that I absolutely love, and that I feel the band didn't play often enough. Accordingly, it was, in my opinion, a treat when it did show up in a setlist. Well... this one may be the best HCS EVER! It's so melodic and the playing so smooth, with a killer jam in the middle of it. It ebbs and flows nicely and you know from this point going forward that "tonight" is going to be "one of those nights." The other part about this show that is a bit different is that the first set is EPIC in length. It's actually longer than the second set, and the goodies start showing up much earlier than in a typical Dead show. I'm not going to go song-by-song, but the remaining highlights of the first set for me are: an appearance of "The Race Is On"; a very nice "Brown-Eyed Women"; "Tennessee Jed" and a late-first set China>Rider. The first set closes out (more than mid-way through Disc 2) with a hot "Around and Around."As good as the first set is, the second set is even better (although I still think the overall highlight of the show is still the "Here Comes Sunshine" in the first set). Due to timing issues, the second set actually starts on Disc 3, with the final three (3) songs on the set appearing at the end of Disc 2. I definitely recommend listening in the order in which the show was played. And let me tell you, Disc 3 is awesome!!! It is basically a non-stop, continuous 70+ minute jam which begins with an excellent "Truckin'" which then morphs into an unbelievable, three-part "The Other One" sandwich, which has "Big River" and "Eyes of the World" for the filling. It is hypnotic the way the boys weave in and out of "The Other One" throughout this portion of the show, never losing stride and hitting on all cylinders. Finally... the last portion of "The Other One" leads into a great "Wharf Rat", and they finally silence their instruments for a few fleeting moments. The show closes with three (3) stand-alones... "Me and My Uncle" (which seems strange to hear this late in a show), "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad" and "One More Saturday Night". They're all good, but it's almost impossible to top that which just went down in the first 70+ minutes of this set. I definitely see myself coming back to this show over and over in the future. Show grade: "A- to A", depending upon my mood. Again... I don't think it's the best show, so far, but I do think it's my favorite!
May 24, 2016 - 11:10am

#77

KYTrips

Joined:
August 25, 2012

Ahhh.... 1972

If ever there was a more stellar year in GD history, I'm not sure what it would be (okay, okay... I realize this topic is up for debate, but I cast my lot with 1972). That being said, I had really high expectations for this show, as I do almost all '72 shows. This one didn't disappoint. However, I do think that this show will suffer a fate of being underplayed by many Heads, as it's so close in proximity to the DP 11 show from the Stanley Theater in Jersey City that took place 3 nights after this gem. I do think the Stanley Theater show is better, but this one is pretty great too. My only knock on this show... I think the sound is a bit spotty. There's one period in the show where the tape hiss is very audible and a bit distracting until you realize you're just gonna have to deal with it. The show opens with one of my personal faves... "Big Railroad Blues". You know a show is gonna be good when they open with this one. Everything in this show is filled with energy. Hell... I even liked "Mexicali Blues" which to me is usually a snoozer. "Loser" and "Black-Throated Wind" both deliver, while the band takes a bit of a breather in a subpar "Cumberland Blues" in my opinion. "Sugaree" is great (as per usual), and is followed by a consistent run of "El Paso", "Tennesse Jed" and BIODTL. In my opinion, this show REALLY gets rolling when they break into "Bird Song" later in the 1st Set. I've heard much better versions of "Big River", but the first set closes with an awesome "Brown-Eyed Women" and a MONSTER "Playing In the Band." Not bad... and that was just the 1st Set!!!The 2nd Set kills! The boys keep raising the pot (no pun intended) with each subsequent song, starting with "Greatest Story Ever Told" and continuing through "Bertha", "Promised Land", a beautiful "Fried of the Devil" and "Jack Straw". Things fall off a bit when they play "Tomorrow is Forever", a short-lived song in the Dead repertoire for good reason in my opinion. Then they ease back into things with MAMU before they head into "Dark Star" which is sandwiched around a nice little drum solo by Billy. Out of "Dark Star"?... Why yes, I do believe I will take a China Cat>Rider. And it's a good one. The show closes with the Bobby one-two.... "Sugar Magnolia" and "One More Saturday Night". All in all, a great show. Grade: A-
May 23, 2016 - 6:56am

#78

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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1971??

I have not gone through the 2nd set of 1971...and yes, I listed 1985 twice, my mistake.
May 23, 2016 - 2:58am

#79

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

1971?

I don't see 1971 on your list. And is something listed twice?
May 16, 2016 - 12:19pm

#80

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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1984!

I'm usually partial to the 60's and 70s, however this show is tremendous! short but impeccable first set, from beginning to end; second set is quite adventurous, with a long UJB, a standalone Playin' reprise and a killer Morning Dew. My favorite 80's Trip so far. Revising my rankings... 1970 1967 1973 1975 1974 1972 1976 1968 1984 1969 1977 1983 1991 1979 1980 1981 1982 1978 1990 1993 1992 1966 1985 1986 1994 1985 1995 1987 1989 1988

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Nah

You are an ebay gouger if you put something on sale (initially) for twice what you paid for it (or more). Particularly in situations where it has nowhere near that value or you are just turning it for a profit. Some of my favorites are View From the Vault II for $250 and the Dave's Picks for $75 the day after they sell out. Same thing as ticket scalping. Same guideposts. I don't mind turning a bit of a profit, but that site is rampant with gougers. And again, I'm talking about the price being SET. Now, where it goes, that can't be on the seller, that's on the buyer. But I will say, there are certainly other sites where you can go where the seller sets the price (no bidding), and I'd encourage those. I've had far less bad experiences on them in terms of the product not matching the description than with e-bay. Too many people on there have no real interest in the music, just turning the product over for a profit. Not all, certainly. But too many.

Tasty Brown-Eyed Women....

....OK, it's not '77, but 10.10.76 serves up a stellar second set version. Man, how I love those Day on the Green shows. Just exactly perfect....if I had a time machine, that weekend would be logged in.

So Far: Top 5 Shows

1970 1969 1975 1967 1968 1973 1972 1974 1977 1982 let's see 1,2 5 looks about right

Zoot Allures

#2-Black Napkins#3-The Torture Never Stops Get some weirdness folks,it's good for ya... :) Oh yeah....Over-Nite Sensation #1-Camarillo Brillo

Dave - Replies To Recent Topics

It's not a second series of downloads, I didn't have download series Volume 1 (4/30/77 - Palladium, New York, NY). Don't know why I didn't, but I will once they resolve the downloading issue.

jrf68 - Frankeeeeeee, oh, different frank

Recently went thru all my Zappa, reorganized and filled in. Found the library had quite a bit available. Can't mention Overnite Sensation without bringing up "I am the slime", I always thought Rage Against the Machine updated this tune with "Bullet in the Head". "Just victims of the in house drive-by...." Can one live without "Cosmik Debris"? Or "Billy was a Mountain"? Funny Frank song story,,,, I come from Jersey where Diners are king. Diners generally speaking always have "jukeboxes" on the tables. Me and the wife always ate breakfast at the "River Road Diner" in Piscataway (no longer there), but in the jukebox they had a copy of "Dinah-Moe Humm". Which I could never believe A) they allowed in the box and B) There was a single of this song! For those not up on their Frank, it's about Frank hooking up with two sister and one of them betting he couldn't make her cum. "I poked and stroked until my wrist went numb and I still didn't hear no Dinah-Moe Humm. Usual Frank PC. I have a life long friend whose cousin played with frank, he is the "Warren" from Joe's Garage. For your viewing pleasure, here is a list of the Frank I have. ABSOLUTELY FREE APOSTROPHE (') BONGO FURY CRUISING WITH RUBEN & THE JETS DOES HUMOR BELONG IN MUSIC FREAK OUT GUITAR HAVE I OFFENDED SOMEONE HOT RATS JAZZ FROM HELL JOE'S GARAGE (PART 1) JOE'S GARAGE - ACTS I, II & III JUST ANOTHER BAND FROM LA ONE SIZE FITS ALL OVER-NITE SENSATION SHEIK YERBOUTI SHUT UP 'N PLAY YER GUITAR SON OF CHEAP THRILL STRICTLY COMMERCIAL THE BEST BAND YOU NEVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE THE GRAND WAZOO UNSORTED WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY - LUMPY GRAVY WEASELS RIPPED MY FLESH YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS ZOOT ALLURES LIVE SHOWS ========== 1978-10-31 PALLADIUM, NYC BOSTON 1968 FILLMORE - SUMMER 71 HARTFORD - 2-16-88 ODD & END SHOW SIDNEY 1973 SNL - 1976 WINTERLAND - 12-27-75 ================================== YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE - VOLUME 1 YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE - VOLUME 4 YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE - VOLUME 6

Dennis Wilmont

Ahhh…I got it now. That's a good one…not to be missed. If you're interested in more Spring '77 I actually found good 'aud' recordings for 4/23/77 Springfield, MA and the much coveted 5/8/77 Barton Hall on Archive.org. I've listened to both a few times as my "Daily Dose of Dead" which, as stated is a daily occurrence that happens around 5:00 PM. There's audience noise etc. but the music is what counts. Here's to the resolution of your download issue and thanks again for telling me about the 'Free Music' option on Amazon.

Zappa

Many of those titles are personal favorites as well. I'd have to add 'Chunga's Revenge' to the list. I also have a soft spot for 'Weasels…' since a portion was recorded at the old Phila. Arena at 43rd & Market Sts. in Philly. This is the same building that birthed and broadcast 'American Bandstand' weekly (I believe the show had moved to L.A. by the time of Mr. Zappa's appearance) and also features a very young Lowell George. Zappa…'American Bandstand'…irony anyone?

More FZ Dennis Wilmot

Didn't see "Sleep Dirt" on your list...a favorite FZ of mine, and, I believe, FZ's first all-instrumental record (in the '79 vinyl version). Just remember..."The Ocean is the Ultimate Solution".

Favorite live FZ: YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE - VOLUME 2

My favorite live Zappa release is YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE - VOLUME 2 - The Helsinki Show. If you have not heard it before, check it out! It's the complete show, so it's not a compilation like the rest of that series, but the show rips from the very beginning and the band it tight. I have the first six releases (was there anymore?). I would say that release is towards the top of my top ten "played" live CDs of all time. Probably if I were to put together my top ten live albums "played" (in no particular order): Frank Zappa -YCDTOSA Vol 2 Grateful Dead - Reckoning Grateful Dead - Dead Set Grateful Dead - Live Dead Grateful Dead - Without a Net Yes - Yessongs Little Feat - Waiting For Columbus Bob Marley - Babylon By Bus Peter Gabriel - Plays Live Genesis - Seconds Out This is based on probably a biased recollection and really tough limiting it to a top ten... For live albums before college, I played Kiss Alive and Kiss Alive II a lot in Jr High, The Doors' Alive She Cried and Neil Young's Live Rust in High School... It's not a "favorite" or "best" live album list, since I now have 100+ live dead releases and my music library expanded exponentially as I had more disposable income as an adult. The few live albums and tapes I had in Jr High, High School and College were well played. I did not get a CD player until my last semester in college (Christmas present). Sorry for the tangent / diversion - this started as a recommendation for the FZ Vol2 Helsinki show - check it out...

All this Brown-Eye talk....

I remember once hearing a Brown-Eye in the early 80's, I thought the Meadowlands, certainly East Coast. Where they didn't come out of the "Jam" where they usually do, but when they did it was an incredible long rolling of drums and bass into a crashing "tumble down shack in bigfoot county". I checked every show I was at and can not find it, I thought maybe it was me and the shape I was in. But I called my buddy and he remembers as well. Says whenever he hears a Brown-Eye he looks for that huge drum roll and never gets it. Sound familiar to anyone else?

boblopes - frank and more

Will look to snag a copy of Vol 2. I believe there are only 6 and as you can see I have half. On your live album selection.... The dead stuff all great picks, I recommend "Dead Set" and "Without a Net" to non-heads to start them off. Waiting for Columbus, for years I thought greatest live recording ever done, period. Hard to beat Spanish Moon. Peter Gabreil Plays Live - Wow. Saw that show when he played the Garden State Art Center (small amphitheater in Jersey), was maybe 15 rows back, me and my wife were hot and heavy on the album, so it was more than great. Guy can put on a show. The song "I have the Touch", when it gets to the end... Try drink, food, cigarette, tension will not ease I tap my fingers, fold my arms, breathe in deep, cross my legs Shrug my shoulders, stretch my back - but nothing seems to please - I need contact The tension and resolution in that song is incredible, one of those musical moments when all elements come together. Also one of the few artist/shows I ever saw that the sound system was up to Dead quality! The Marley and Genesis albums, I have both, but sad to say not intimately familiar with them, will have to give serious listens. Yes.... for me anyway, Yes did not age well, it can sound too pretenious, like Emerson, Lake and Palmer,,,even Renaissance (less known than the first two). They were BIG in their day, who didn't have Roundabout in 8 track! You had to have it! But doesn't do me anymore. Taste is like that.

Ebay Gougers

How about if I bought 6 extra box sets of 30 Trips Around the Sun in September (after it had not sold out for 3 months on dead.net); and then sold off my extra shows for $30 - $60 each, a deed for which most buyers thanked me for making it possible to get the shows individually, where they otherwise would have had to have paid $750 for a bunch of shows they didn't want, just to get the few that they did want. Does that make me an Ebay gouger?

@ minasmorgul

Yes, that does make you an ebay gouger.What if one of those boxes contained a "Miracle Ticket" scroll, that when cashed in, would get you a special RIAA gold disc? Would you cash in that scroll and get the disc and then sell that as well? I do not completely understand Rhino's marketing strategy with a product like this boxset. PLEASE read the www.dead.net Terms Of Service AND the Terms Of Use.

ebay gougers

I'm probably in the minority, I may be scorned, I may find a dancing bear burning on my lawn, but, you can't gouge a non essential item. NO ONE is forcing anyone to buy anything. Like sports tickets, concert tickets if the price is to high DON'T buy. Some things suck, like if scalpers buy up all the tickets to a show and triples the price. Sucks, but you don't have to go. Scalpers and gougers only scalpe and gouge because the market will bear it. The sports ones I don't understand at all since it's on tv for free, but the "list" price for sporting events apparently have gotten beyond an average mans means. I don't go to sporting events, but I guess you could take your family for a fair price 20-30 years ago. I heard scalpers got scalped at Santa Clara, where they couldn't give them away. But for things like 30 trips,,, hunt around and someone will give you a copy of it. Do you want the music or the "collectible box", if it's the box, pony up, if it's the music someone, somewhere will hook you up. I've looked at some of the Pure Jerry stuff online and if you want the bonus disc, you need that "doh-ray-me" as Woody Guthie said. I looked at the pure jerry "78 bay area", some guy wanted 400 bucks, fuck you. In the end someone came thru for me. Thank you someone! But in the end, no company is going to keep copies of things forever so you can buy stuff, Europe 72 box will not be available from the dead 20 years from now and if you want you will have to pay like Cyrano, thru the nose! Oh, and please don't burn a dancing bear on my lawn or at least wait until after Christmas :-)

born cross eyed

I don't read the terms of service for anything, cut to the chase, what point do they make in their statement? Briefly please. Oh, and in print size legiable to humans with old eyes :-)

What if...

...I stuck spoons into MM's sockets, scraped out his eyes, and sold them on the black market with full disclosure that recipient may experience vision distorted by spots of sarcasm, antagonistic floaters, and Fuch's Corneal Smartassery? Would that make me a gouger or just a bad person? P.S.: As president of the Morgul Vale Glee Club and an unmitigated fan of MM himself, I'm vested with irreproachable license to say these things. P.P.S.: Incidentally, everyone is fully dressed behind their keyboards when sitting at the dead.net table, right? I'm pretty sure that's a basic TOC tenet, but I'm getting a bad feeling about some of y'all...is it really JUST Monday?/p,K Wait...what thread is this?

I'm Out

Its casual Monday... Will check back in tomorrow.

RE: What if ...

Jeez, how much great stuff can you put into just one post! And, is casual Monday a euphemism for bare-assed Monday? (isn't Monday derived from Moon Day after all?)

@ MinasMorgul

I'll take the "gouger" label back.You are a crafty CAPITALIST. I know and understand capitalism very well. It was Warner Music Group's loss. It was Rhino's loss. And I still don't understand Rhino's marketing strategy. Was this actual or hypothetical, the buying of six boxes? or did you buy just 1 and sold the individual components?

RE: Top 5 Shows

no 1976 in that list? I think the Ramble on Rose from that Cobo show is hot!!!

It Is What It Is...

Nothing wrong with being a middleman out to make some money. I agree, Rhino is to blame for this with their "limited issue" and "bonus discs" business model. It's to be expected. I'd much rather purchase music for download without the bells and whistles and Rubik's cubes. Of course...I'm speaking as one who spent way too much cash on Ebay this weekend. There's a lot of product there. It's not my style, but why wouldn't someone burn their copy and then repackage for resale? I suppose Rhino wants guaranteed cash up front and doesn't care how many times shows are resold for profit. It is what it is. Don't like it, but it's the only game in town (for Daves Picks/30 Trips shows). If you don't want to play, there's lots of other Dead music out there available much more cheaply. But we all want the latest and greatest...

USB Update

Sorry for the misleading subject, there is no update. It's now Monday evening, the USBs were going to be shipped last Friday. Do we really think we will see it this week? Before Christmas? Before 2016? Will we still give a shit when we get it? BZ

If I was tripping balls....

....and I'm not, but if I was, that Scarlet -> Fire from Worcester '83 would send me through the roof. Just sayin'

USB Update

Just got a UPS overnight delivery notice for tomorrow that contains my USB order number - could this finally be the USB??????

Vguy....

you are right and wrong too - it`sd that moment Dennis W. talks about as the definite version. What i meant is : there`s a certain magic in some versions that we all ( or at least those of us who are addicted enough ) the same about : and so what is this magic ? Is it the power or the intensitiy alone or a " vibe " and if yes what is that vibe - Jerry hitting more or fewer notes than usually , Bobby singing with more pitch than usually , Phil going deeper into the roots of his bass ? Or just an illusion ? So what the heck where does this absolute easy flowing version of BEW come from...

DaP 16

I finally got around to listening to DaP 16 last night, and all I can say is... "Wow!!!" First of all... the sound quality is amazing. It's a fantastic show, but the Dark Star is top-shelf. I was in line grabbing some fast food last night, and the speakers in my car were vibrating the whole damn car and it was wonderful. I think it's Live/Dead good. It amazes me that I can still be amazed by this band on a consistent basis. In fact, the whole 3rd disc is on fire. Almost every song is a good rendition, save for maybe Wave That Flag which was clearly very much a work in progress. I'm glad they changed the lyrics and gave us U.S. Blues. But overall, my opinion is that show alone was worth the entire price of the 2015 DaP Subscription.

TOC Dress Code

Over the weekend, I had a couple visitors. Special visitors they were, my niece (Anna) and nephew (Jack) AKA "Deadheads in Training" I was wearing the Spring 90 Tiger t-shirt when they arrived. Jack almost 2 years old, let out a big growl when he saw the graphic and motioned me to come his way. I wasn't sure what all his fuss was about, only to discover Shere Khan from Disney's "The Jungle Book" is his favorite. I had no idea his fanaticism for tigers and for sure he thought it was Shere Khan on the shirt. The response I got from the older and wiser "Deadhead in Training" (Anna almost 5 years old) is "cool jammies" !!! Lol They have a lot to learn

KYTrips ,, love those moments

"and the speakers in my car were vibrating the whole damn car and it was wonderful" A couple months ago I passed by a few pedestrians while driving. I was listening very loud to the Dark Star sequence from 10.25.73. I noticed the pedestrians were also vibrating profusely, must have sent a shock wave of skull splitters to them when I was approaching. I hope they are ok ?

Born Crosseyed

You said: "It was Warner Music Group's loss. It was Rhino's loss. And I still don't understand Rhino's marketing strategy." They sold 6500 units at $700 a piece for over 4.5 million in three months. What would you have done differently to make more money in the same time frame?

USB Shipped!...I think...but I'm pretty sure this is it...

Just got my shipping confirmation from Warner Music Group, coming out of PA overnight! The wait may just be over!

Ebay pricing.......

I am not a big fan of Ebay pricing, but I understand the motivation, especially when something is rare or out-of-print. I would dearly love to get a copy of Road Trips, vol. 3, no. 3, as it was my first Dead show. However, the current pricing on Ebay and Amazon makes it out of reach for me.

@droimee - Road Trips 3 #3

But Road Trips 3 #3 is a available as a download here, and it is even less expensive than the original CD version. Burn to CD and you have the same HDCD recording as if buying the physical product, or play back through an HDCD capable DAC, or just play it back without decoding, probably makes little difference. If you do, I suggest the FLAC version, then convert to whatever format you prefer. In my experience, better file integrity (from this website). No reason to pay an eBay seller mark up when the same music is available here.

Volume

1 - You have to have your music cranked in order to hear all of the subtleties & nuances2 - If it is too loud, you are too old 3 - All of my equipment has only two volume settings: loud & louder Rock on

USB Shipping ..... well not quite !

I'm in the UK. Got my email from Dead Shop telling me the USB's would be shipping. Received a text from DHL, which I thought was a scam ! Received another one on Sunday, asking me to pay Customs Duty/VAT of £102 ($150), which, after speaking to DHL CS, I duly paid. Even got a tracking number, however, when I try to track it, there is nothing happening apart from raising the shipping notice. It's not yet been received by DHL !My hopes of getting this before Xmas are fading fast. I've ran out of words to describe how much of a debacle this has been, so I won't even try. Edit: For info, my shipping info originates from Van Nuys, CA .... Wonder if that's where it's shipping from ?

Droidmec

That's a cool first Dead show.

mexicali

Anyone notice how fast they play Mexicali Blues on the '74 show from 30 trips? It's at a breakneck speed that they really couldn't keep up with.

Re: Droidmec

I'll say its a cool first Dead show, its a heck of a Road Trips too, one of my personal favorites. The acoustic stuff, to my ears, is some of the best sounding '70 acoustic stuff they have released.

mbarilla....

ever listened to Greyfolded , i mean the whole DS " suite " through - i sometimes do when driving and i laugh that floating streams of notes , yes pedestrians stop and look confused, hehe

loudness

1 - no2 - maybe 3 - why ?

mbarilla....

reminds me of my family , the baby grandsoon in his first SFtpddler , the 8 year old in her black 50 shirt - makes me proud....

Here we go .....

My tracking now says 'Shipment picked up in Harrisburg, PA' Finally some action.

Grayfolded .... all the way through !

The only way to listen to it ...... an all-time favourite, along with Anthem.

hbob

Couldn't agree more on the loudness factor. In fact, if you're between 40 and 50 yrs old and have not experienced hearing loss, you might not be a rock fan....

Great Holiday show!

If you're in the NorthWest US, make sure to check out Nick Lowe's Quality Holiday Revue!Caught him at the Great American Music Hall in SF, this was best show I've seen all year.

re: Keithfan

WHAT?

re: JimInMD

I said BULL SHIT! (that man must be from Amer-i-ca)....hey well it's we wanna get high between songs, isn't that alright? Thank ya! Or was it hey Elvis?

UPS Ground?

After this long wait, i was hoping with the "pain" that we supposedly felt, according to them they felt too…….and they ship UPS Ground from the East coast, really. What a Kick in the Face. PA to CA five business days after it being over three months late. Yeah they feel our pain. Glad its finally shipping but the method at this point is disrespectful. Any normal company would overnight it with a big apology. Sad.

UPS Ground

Agreed. I received my notice that they are packaging my USB finally, and will ship UPS Ground. Last month Dave's Picks took 8 days from notice to arrival that way. Which was fine, since that was what I paid for when I subscribed - and did so again for 2016 and the wait for each will be fine. Assuming they aren't already 3 months late!!!!!!!!! Oh, and the "Holiday Cheer" I have been advised to keep an eye out for the last several weeks - nothing. Don't tell me to keep an eye out for a nice gesture to try to make amends unless you actually plan to follow through. In some kind of timely fashion. Next week sometime, hopefully I will receive the USB and start enjoying the 30 Trips. The music rules (the process has been unfortunately a disgrace). Still looking forward with anticipation to some really good listening.

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