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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • cheyler196
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    Can anyone tell me why DVD-A is not the preferred format? One disc, one complete show, smaller space needed to store boxed sets, all you have to do is run your dvd player into a receiver and that's it.
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    Bush bad - Obama much much worse. Now keep your filthy unwelcome politics to yourself, we come here to escape the reality that a bunch of incompetent voters traded away our right to maintain our own health care system.
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    can't wait to get this box and listen to it in chronological order, choosing era-appropriate drugs for each show - lots of psychedelics for the 60s, maybe some grass and ludes for the early to mid-70s, followed by some blow for the late 70s stuff, graduating to crack for the 80s, and finishing up with ecstasy and other synthetics for the 90s. bring it on!
  • cheyler196
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    Ah well, that's the way I understood it anyway. If I'm wrong about something I don't mind finding out about it.
  • Edwin
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    No, it makes you a 9.2857143 e-07'er! given that there's more than 7 billion people, most of whom won't get it.
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    You should really check out these two links. The first is a youtube video put by xiph audio engineers, the second is a long article that you should check out in its entirety when you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Also, I should preface my remarks by pointing out that this has nothing to do with mp3 or any other lossy file format. It is referring to lossless, whether compressed lossless(like flac) or uncompressed lossless (like wav). mp3's are clearly inferior - the question being addressed is whether standard 16/44.1 is inferior to 24/96 or 24/192. If you think the answer is yes, you should really check out both links. Although within the video this is mentioned, it is not emphasized, even though I think it is the most important point. What he shows on the video is that, as long as only frequencies below 22,050hz are being sampled (band limited at 22,050hz), then an audio wave of any complexity sampled at 44,100 times per second yields a series of discrete samples where ONE AND ONLY ONE curve (the sound wave) passes through each point. You can draw a different curve through all the points, but it can proven that ANY deviation from the original would mathematically compel the original to include frequencies ABOVE 22,050hz. Since we know that we excluded all those frequencies, only the original (source) curve is correct. The job of the analog to digital converter is to recreate this original curve. Unless you are an infant or a bat, you don't, and will never, be able to hear or detect frequencies of 22,050hz or higher anyway. The video does a good job of explaining what 16-bits means. Most people don't know. The different - the ONLY difference between audio sampled at 16, 24, or even 1, bit(s) is the level of noise (exactly equivalent to tape hiss) that is produced by the digitizing process. In other words, it affects the dynamic range of softest to loudest sounds that can be encoded. 16-bits (especially dithered) has a wider dynamic range than exists on any of your music recordings. I have seen people wishing for higher than 16-bit files of recordings made prior to the early '80s. Well, reel-to-reel has a MAXIMUM dynamic range that is equivalent to about 13 bits. Casettes have a maximum of about 7, but were usually in the range of 4-6 bit equivalent in dynamic range. You can never get what was never in the recording to begin with. Even the most perfect reel-to-reel of, say, Dark Side Of The Moon, can NEVER be improved by adding more than 16-bits, because the ORIGINAL RECORDING never had more than 13-bits of dynamic range. Modern digital recordings, even though they are professionally created with 24 or even 32 bits, still don't utilize more than 16-bits of dynamic range. One key thing to keep in mind is that the audio situation is NOTHING like the video situation - using terms like high-def or high-res to compare what is happening with audio with what is happening with video is a complete misunderstanding - they shouldn't be using the same terminology and here is why. In video, high def gives more information to your eye. The more pixels, the higher the resolution, the better the image - the better the OUTPUT of the system sending information to your eyes. That is NOT true in audio, but it's a little complicated why. In hi-def AUDIO, there ARE more samples (creating larger files), HOWEVER, your EAR is never given any additional information because the digital to analog converter recreates the EXACT sound wave that was used to create it. In effect, 16/44.1 is LOSSLESS. This is only true if the sampling rate is at least twice the highest sound frequency being digitized. But, that's not a problem, since you CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING at above 20khz. So, the OUTPUT that the digital to analog converter creates, the SOUND WAVE that is created is EXACTLY THE SAME as if the converter was given 92khz sampled file. The only difference between a 44.1kz file and a 92khz file is the the 92khz file can properly encode all frequence in the range from 0 to 48khz, and the 44.1khz file can only properly (losslessly) encode frequencies from 0 to 22khz. Who cares? The range from 22khz to 48khz is INAUDIBLE TO YOU AND ALWAYS WILL BE - COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IN EVERY WAY UNDETECTABLE BY YOU. If you think otherwise, you should contact a university science department immediately as they may want look into using you as a secret weapon or somehow or other. In any case, check out both links. Or don't, because it is perfectly fine enjoying what you think you are hearing also (that's not sarcastic, seriously.)
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    We've all heard about various bands that were true originals and 'opened the door' for others to walk through...NYDolls, Pistols, GD and others. The Dead held the door open for decades and no one walked through. A couple stumbled through but fell on their faces. Nothing else like them to this date. All the other bands that claim to have been inspired or influenced are, really, just crap (for lack of a better word). My opinion, if you haven't guessed, is that it's all contrived quasi-hippie bullshit.
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    It's hard to generalize about mp3s. They are not created equal. I would challenge anyone to hear the difference between a well converted 320kbs mp3 and a CD quality FLAC. These listening tests have been done over and over and it appears that a vanishingly small number of people can tell the difference with any statistical significance. Of course, that assumes a playback system that can represent the resolution. In a car, iPod, boom box, etc., all bets are off. I listen to 320kbs mp3s (or AACs) most of the time through my Grace Design/McIntosh/Avalon system and it sounds amazing. Lower than 256kbs and it sounds like dog doo. Even 256kbs mp3s are a bit dodgy. As far as the analogy goes, it's not a good one. Nyquist proved that decades ago. You only need two samples per frequency interval to perfectly reproduce the waveform. Not adequately, but perfectly. Higher resolution buys you nothing and if you go up too high, you can end up with intermodulation distortion in the audio band. 60khz is about perfect, but of course, we have a jump from 48khz to 88.2. As an audio engineer, I'm usually doing 88.2 these days. But 44.1khz honestly sounds really good with the right converters. Of course, I would never condone reconstituted FLACs, WAVs, etc., from mp3s being passed along by traders as full resolution.
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    Damn right.
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    The best way I've heard it described is to think of a photo in the newspaper. It's all made up of dots (or used to be anyway). Looking at it from arm's length it looks pretty good. Look closer and closer and you can see the dots that make up the picture. With mp3, you can 'hear the dots' much more easily than you can with flac. There are many different types of files, some lossy and some not. Starting at the bottom and working upward, each has more information than the last. That's about it. There's just less information included which is why mp3s are so much smaller than flac. I don't get the mp3 thing, unless it's something that can't be procured any other way...and they're a huge liability for traders. I'd rather burn up GBs at a faster rate than get ANYTHING in mp3. They are the bane of all existence, although still not approaching the level of George Fucking Bush.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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What headphones did u get? I need a pair and don't know where to start looking...any help would be appreciated.
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....you get it. '76 is the milk chocolate year of the Dead....smooth and tasty.
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I picked up a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 pro's from Amazon for about a $100.Resisting the urge to spend much,much more,I'm more than happy with these baby's. I've never had headphones that sound this good. :)
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Not being a buyer of the usb product, I'm only commenting on what I know about usb devices, computer technology, and how the device is described. Anyone who has the device, let me know if any of my assumptions are wrong. "Is it really metal, which would be a potential shock hazard?" It appears to be in a metal casing. Not all metal is conductive. Even if the metal the device was cased in was conductive, there would have to be contact between the metal and the circuitry to make the device a shock hazard. Contact between the metal and the circuitry would cause a short circuit, likely rendering the device unusable. Additionally, the amount of power supplied by a usb port is much lower than a bare socket connection. For the usb device to be a shock hazard, the metal casing would have to be conductive, there would have to be a connection between the circuitry and the casing, and the usb port would have to produce more juice than it usually operates under. Not saying this can't happen; anything is possible, but the likelihood is so small that all these things align, you can put the notion to rest that the usb device is a shock hazard. "Is there a USB cable or does this heavy metal memory stick plug into a USB slot, which on my audio PC are all on the rear of the machine?" Neither the product description or any of the information related by buyers indicates that there is a cable included. It appears to plug directly into the machine. Usb cables are inexpensive and easy to find. The usb device is advertised as USB 3.0 compatible. USB 3.0 has a much faster data transfer rate than USB 2.0, which has been the standard for almost 10 years now. In order to get the benefit of the faster transfer rate, all steps in the chain have to be USB 3.0, including the cable. USB 3.0 connections are colored blue. The plastic at the end of the device, under the metal housing that plugs into the usb port, will be blue and the usb port that receives the device will have blue plastic as well. This blue plastic will also be in any expansion cable you use if you want to get USB 3.0 speeds. If you use a regular USB 2.0 cable with a USB 3.0 device and USB 3.0 port, you will get USB 2.0 speed. Hopefully that helps.
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....the segue between Good Lovin and Comes A Time is priceless. Well worth the $700 entry fee. Another nug stored away.
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....someone says "Yeah!". I think it's Bobby. Something clicked, then it's off to one of the most flowing Not Fade's I've heard in recent memory. Check out Garcia's subtle riffing....stupendous. The China Cat theme Bobby breaks out at the 10:10 mark breaks out a smile on my face. Remember, China Cat had not been played yet since the hiatus. GDTRFB teases come next, then Bill gets a chance to bring the band back around at 11:40. He gathers a rhythm....12:18 brings the boyz back to the forefront. Majesty. At 13:10, the band is searching. Phil breaks the curtain with a mean riff, then they are calling out around the world again. Loving this NFA....can you tell? C'mon guys. Spin it or stream it. Just love it. I hope some of you respond in kind in what I noticed....
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okay,add this awesome Groove show to the list. so far, essential relistening top 5 30 Trips years are 1967 1968 1969 1970 best evr Dancing 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1979 1983
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Sorry, I want to love the bolt and all the incredible music on it but the amount of work I'm going to have to put in to get these songs play in the correct order across all these shows makes me want to tear what's left of my hair out.
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I've had great experience with a free app called Bulk Rename Utility. You can rename files in folders and sub-folders using every imaginable condition you can think of. I'd give it a try.
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I hear Dave Brubeck as well coming out of Good Lovin! Nice catch. 1976 keeps creeping up my "top o' the box" list. That 10 minute Sugaree is growing on me as well. peace and love peace and love P.S. try mp3tag to fix up your mp3 files
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Go Capitalism, go. I need you Capitalism, you are the only thing between me and being out on my ass. And besides, how else will I swing it (seat of pants, per my style) and PAY what are truly the big shining emblems of ripoff prices in modern American life.... health care, higher ed, and taxes. I can still eat, live, and enjoy most of the pleasures of modern life. But the doc, the prof and the taxman, I dunno... rapacious and rent-seeking. Help me Cap, help me pay them off.
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Where's the scroll? It is a very nice product. The music quality is amazing. I have the same problems / complaints as others with the folders and file naming conventions, the fades. But we paid the same price as the box. We waited three months. And there's no digital copy of the scroll?? Why should the USB buyers get ANYTHING less for the same price?? I really think this should be made available to all USB buyers.
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The bolt weighs 177 gram, and the removable USB stick weighs 28 gram. This plugs directly into the USB on my laptop. Definitely USB 3.0.
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I'm still waiting on delivery of mine. Maybe by tonight. Can anybody say EXACTLY what is contained in the package? USB, of course. Is the physical book included, now? What about the much vaunted "Holiday Cheer" that was promised to us back in November?
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Purple box contains Gold Lightning Bolt, in a custom foam mould, USB Spec. Sheet.Mine came with a Backstage Pass from Shoreline May 23, 1993, and a ticket from Oakland Feb. 12, 1986. I believe the 'Holiday Cheer' will be coming separately.
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@Outpost So no book? I received an email on 11/16/2015 stating that "Dr. Rhino will be including a hard copy of the book with all USB orders as a small token of gratitude for your patience."
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The "Holiday Cheer" is a pack of Xmas greeting cards in Grateful Dead style. There is a digital copy of the book on the USB. What is this "scroll" people are talking about? edit: I don't recall getting eamil about there being a physical copy of the book shipped out to those of us who ordered USB. That would be kind of nice actually.
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Outpost, PM sent. Also, I've been listening to the Selland Arena 7/19/74 show on Archive.org and it's a real nice show, great sound, unique playing. It portends well for Dave's Picks in 2016.
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IMHO, they should've included the HD files for everyone in boxset, whether on a fancy bolt (looks nice from picturs) or a one use download code. I don't have a need for the HD files now, but I'm sure down the road I will... I hit a stagnation wall with the 1985 trip - thought is was alright. Looked at some of the reviews from the date's page at dead.net and see it appears to be worthy of a fresh listen with open ears. Would love to get One Man's take on it when he revisits the 30 Trips version - he was at the show and spoke highly of the sbd or aud that was in circulation at the time. I use MP3Tag to relabel all my Dead music... Happy Friday!
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No physical book, and I didn't get any kind of email indicating there would be, just the 'holiday cheer'which I assume is more tickets.
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Here is the email from 11/16/2015Response Via Email(Melinda) - 11/16/2015 10:51 AM Hello, Thank you for contacting Dead.net customer service. I am sincerely sorry for the delays in shipping of your USB set. Unfortunately, as you may have heard, we have run into several road blocks in shipping out the physical box sets, so that has pushed back the shipping of the USB sets significantly. However, once we finish sending out the physical box sets, we will begin shipping the USB sets, at which point you should receive a shipping confirmation email with tracking. Additionally, we have received word that Dr. Rhino will be including a hard copy of the book included in the physical box sets with all USB orders as a small token of gratitude for your patience. Again, I apologize for the delay, but hopefully we'll be able to get the USB set out to you without the hiccups we've experienced with the physical box sets. If you have any further feedback regarding the shipment of your particular item, I encourage you to reach out to our supplier, Dr. Rhino, at drrhino@rhino.com for the most accurate and up-to-date information! If you have any further questions or comments, please let us know. Sincerely, Melinda
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The ups guy drives around my neighborhood in a cart around Christmas. I knew it was coming today, but could wait no longer. I hopped in my van and headed him off at the pass. This is a thing beauty! Good old #449/1000 Solid, and when the USB slides out the entire 13 point Lightning Bolt remains, as the USB is removed from the lower half of the bolt. Great design Ticket: May 27, 1993 Cal Expo. Backstage pass: March 24, 1993 Chapel Hill North Carolina (Attended) "Some got six months, some got one solid"
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Anxious for this baby to arrive. Would appreciate any info for downloading into iTunes. Any and all advice / issues would be appreciated.
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I do actually recall seeing that email previously, but maybe someone posted it ..... anyhow, my shipping confirmation arrived AFTER my USB !
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I'm using XLD to convert FLAC > Apple Lossless, and then directly into iTunes. Album art is in the files, and then I'm just editing the tracks to show as Sets rather than discs.Very Hi Res files avg. 3000kbps. Sound great though ..... Viola Lee from 7/3/66 playing now ! Edit: converting file copies by the way, in case you're wondering !
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.... did the usb stick come in the big box? How was the interior of the box designed to hold it. Did boltheads not get a physical book? Can anyone post a picture? I'm just curious. sidebar - If you have to bolt, will you just copy all the files to a hard drive and put the bolt on the shelf? Will you edit idtag/labels on the hard drive and then copy those to a cheap after market stick for listening? Can bolt be written over? That would suck.
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Boltheads prove to me that for them it's all about the music. But, I need some reassurance. Personally, I couldn't imagine dropping this kind of coin for something unless it had more there there. With substance, bigger, tangible. Something that commands your attention, says 'I'm in the house' and 'I really mean business'. The wow factor. Something I can pass on down the line as an heirloom as well. I think the box fits that bill. Don't get me wrong, the bolt looks cool, but aren't the goods strictly a metal case, some plastic and digital files? That's something pretty small, slightly understated for the same price. I can't figure it, unless it's a market testing strategy. I personally couldn't fathom going for it. That's why I didn't think twice and went for the mondo box. I suppose for some it was all they had available because the box sold out. Other people probably didn't think twice and immediately went for the mondo bolt. There are going to be people 100% satisfied, completely and utterly stoked and I am glad for them. That's how I want it to be. I want EVERYONE to be happy. I think we all do. I am just trying to wrap my head around the digital only concept. I suppose a lot of cars have USB readers now. I suppose that's the way things are heading? Digital only? Dead.net is getting with the future then. Boltheads, are you happy with the product and value? Can you see I'm confused? Can anyone recommend a good Franklin's Tower? :-)
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I can't speak for all who chose " The Bolt" but for myself the choice was an easy one.# 1 The files on Bolt will potentially sound better on a sound system able to reproduce the higher fidelity. This is the future of recorded music. More notes taking up less phiysical space. I can imagine this heirloom being passed down to the children of my children's kids.
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I agree with galvinized. I thought it would be much more convenient for playing on the go and in the car as well. That said, I thought then and still think now that that the bolt "box" should have included everything in the analog "box" except for the CDs themselves. Disappointing that the book was/is not being provided except as a digital pdf. While the tunes are the most important of course and I'd rather have the Hi Res files, on the bang for buck grid, I think the physical box wins.
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Transcoded to WAV, on a Mac, streaming to my DAC via iTunes. Started with '81. Audio is superior, communicates the music powerfully. Crystal clear, intense musical presentation. A masterpiece. The audio played back via the built in app is not as good as a transcoded WAV copy of the FLAC file. Perhaps the built in app is using the .mp3 files. Dennis Wilmot - the physical object is a simple and beautiful gold lightening bolt case with a USB part that you remove, stored in a small presentation case. Bummer we didn't get the printed book, but as Galvinized pointed out, this is the future. If you use the bolt directly (or clone it) there is a flash app (for mac, something else for PC) that accesses everything. Efficient, simple. I will certainly save the item, but copy everything over to an HDD for playback, and perhaps print out the book for reading. Others have noted, the files aren't tagged for a batch conversion for iTunes (or similar) music player. GDM omitted the disc # tag on the FLAC files. They are divided into separate disc folders on the USB, and therefore necessary to import disc (folder) by disc (folder) and tag. Same criticism applies to the .mp3 files. A minor inconvenience, in my opinion. Everyone has their own way of organizing and tagging files. File naming is helpful, each song includes the date and venue. Easy to batch remove and convenient to have so as to avoid losing track when making custom tags.
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.... same as galvanised and gerd65. I went for this for the Hi-Res music. I've stated previously that I have every official release on CD and loads of live CD-R's, but nowadays, when I get them, I upload them to Apple Lossless, and play through my system, which can handle these files. That way I can also listen in my car, on my bike, without having to take the physical media. I have my music files backed up twice (RAID + separate SDD).Don't get me wrong, I love my box sets, and have even bought Japanese Mini-LP Replicas of the 1st album > Skullfuck for the artwork. Pride of place in my home office is my framed Live Dead album cover. As for the USB, I'm not sure if it's overwritable (I'm not going to try), but have copied the files, to convert, which is no different to ripping the CD's. Not sure if it helped, but after waiting 3 months for the USB, it took only 2 days to get to me in the UK. Previously, box sets and Dave's Picks etc. have taken around 2 weeks to get here. The packaging is small, but cool. Edit: Pretty much same setup as ziffle, but playing back using Apple Lossless rather than WAV (might try that to compare). DAC to B&W Speakers/headphones.
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9.29.77 - Sugaree ; Let It Grow ; Franklin's Tower ! 4.10.78 - Dancing In The Street -> Drums -> Franklin's Tower -> Black Peter 4.1.84 - Help -> Slip -> Franklin's 6.27.84 - Merriweather ! and last, but not least are two from 1989 9.29.89 and 12.8.89 - both primo !!
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I'm going to jump into the one from '78 with both feet. I'm starting with Rhythm Devils because I love those percussion jams from 1978.
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Boblopes, your memory is better than my own. You are correct, this is the only officially released show I attended. I remember stormy weather, Bob Weir having a sneezing fit, and my surprising ability to single-handedly bring the band back for an encore by whistling louder than anyone has ever whistled. I was working my way through 30 Trips chronologically, but thanks to you I detoured and listened to the first set of this today. Once I got over the dry, in-the-board audio mix and lack of Phil, I was surprised at how edgy Garcia's guitar playing became as he warmed to the task. I am certainly biased, but I found his playing completely thrilling on the last solo in Minglewood, but also Loser, and Let it Grow especially. I'll plug in the second set later. So far, I'm really glad this show is in the box. One big complaint -- Healy should have been fired by this point in time. His constant toying with the delay effect on the vocals is beyond annoying. If the band ever heard this tape they were probably pissed off. There is no excuse for that kind of intrusion by the guy who is supposed to be helping to make you sound professional. Jerk!
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I was not at that show, a friend offered me a tickets and I blew it off.. and it turned out to be killer. I should have gone . '85 had some great moments. Comes a Time is always special to me.
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I expect that at some point, sooner rather than later, we will see these shows being available for download. This won't happen until all the USB's are sold out, so I hope that happens soon. I guess that this whole delay in shipping has hurt their sales projections as TPTB would have thought that by Christmas they would be selling downloads ....
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Seems I still have three more days to wait. Good thing I ordered this the first week it was offered.........oh and of course no holiday cheer. Epic fail. At'll teach me. Now definitely grouchy. Arriving the first day of Winter. Guess I should be grateful that it's at least coming-venting.
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>>...toying with the delay effect on the vocals is beyond annoying.<< I just happen to be listening to this show as I read your post and I wholeheartedly concur. It's intrusive and unneccessary
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Just got the USB.Music was very easy to upload but the digital book came as 2 seperate folders. One folder has the left hand pages as one would have in a standard book and the 2nd folder has the right hand pages.Does anyone know how to combine the two folders into one. Any help would be mu appreciated. Thank you
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You should have a PDF titled USB_bk_spreads_08-31, which is the book.Also, if you go to the folder 'main' there is the book and the music, in a more interactive form.
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I've made it up to the 74 show. Every show so far has been beyond my expectations. I've listened to every show (66-74) at least 4 times. The 74 show is amazing.Glad the USB's are finally making to the customers but I am glad I went with the box. I think I would have "lost it" big time if I would have ordered the USB. These folks deserve a discount after this type of delay.
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Thank you. I am all set with the book but when I move the "main" folder to my desktop and open it up it does not allow me to access the book or music.Does the thumb drive need to be inserted for it to be interactive?
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Try moving the PDF folder alone.The Bolt comes with 2 presentation segments. I for PC 1 for Mac. These are auto play presentations of the music(MP3), and the book. When the MP3s are played the Cover art is shown.
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Add another enthusiastic Cobo '76 fan to the mix! Thanks for the thumbs-up recommendations from fellow posters. Don't own the box or bolt, but have been pickin' off desired shows from kind Deadhead vendors. Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 5 (6/9/76) from post-hiatus days has long been a personal favorite of mine, and this ranks right up there with it! Blessed holidays to all!
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So glad you finally got your product. As a happy owner of the Godzilla box for quite a while now, I check in here from time to time to see if you guys got your jollies yet. Of course the long delay was a spaced out fuckup but hey you're ordering from the Grateful Dead not Adele. But now I see posts about brain-scrambling file conversion issues! May I - as an old geezer with ol' fashion ways - simply now ask: aren't you wishing you got the box?
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Box arrived today. No hard copy of the book as was promised. FLAC files sorted by disc. MP3 not. As a result, going to take a couple maybe three hours to sort shows into iTunes to play in order.
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....stumbled across 8.3.82 Starlight Theater earlier today. Nice surprise show....second set Shakedown-> Samson To Lay Me Down Let It Grow-> Jam-> Drumz-> Space-> He's Gone-> The Other One-> Stella Blue-> Sugar Mags Casey Jones ....oh yeah.... ....disappointed to hear the USB '73 show is mixed up too. Seems lazy on Rhino's part....
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Just had to finish off the '85 show today, and I'll say it sounds way better than I remember it. Sonic ridiculousness aside (thanks Healy) the playing is so exuberant and the setlist so unusual, that I can't help but love it. In my little circle at the time, we were not expecting "Smokestack Lightning", "Cryptical Envelopment" nor "Comes a Time" although well-connected heads knew these were possible, since they had all been played earlier that year. "Smokestack" signaled the first plundering of Pigpen's grave (other than "Good Lovin'", but that was such a different arrangement it might as well have been a new song) and I was sure it would not be the last. For me, highlights of the second set are the end of "Drums" into the beginning of "Space" (tune in for interesting on-stage chatter amidst the glorious chaos) and all of the Garcia tunes. (I'm not a fan of Weir's over-emoting at this stage of the band. His rap in "Good Lovin'" makes me cringe.) Even the "US Blues" is full of the best sort of Garcia energy, and it propels the whole band to a win. Now that I have broken my vow to listen chronologically, I will skip back to 1976, because y'all are on a roll with that one. And yes, that is me whistling like crazy before and after the encore. I can still do that, if anyone needs really loud whistling.
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