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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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May 23, 2016 - 2:19pm

#1871

SPACEBROTHER

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E'72 is a great example

Decided to give the Strand lyceum 5/23/72 show a spin and Donna's contributions are just about perfect in contrast to her ad libs in July '78. Wow, what a great show... Oddly enough, I've almost completely neglected the 4 Strand Lyceum '72 shows since getting the steamer trunk box when it first came out. This is like a brand new show to me. I'll come right out and say that my personal favorite versions of "Good Lovin'" are from this tour. So many winners from E'72, that whenever I think I have a favorite show narrowed down, another one jumps out at me. Like the 30 Trips box, E'72 is the box that keeps on giving.
May 23, 2016 - 2:06pm

#1872

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
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Quick thoughts on the box, Bob's slide and Donna

Without going into "show by show" and "song by song" critical analysis mode, this is a very strong run of shows for '78. I like that Phil is up in the mix for much of the first show. The Dead were just starting to tap into the higher energy approach and musical muscle that they would perfect in the '80s, especially the period when Jerry briefly became sober. I acquired the board recording of 7/8 many years ago, and that was good quality. This version surpasses that one. I don't mind Bob's slide playing most of the time, even though he would occasionally go overboard with it. For me, it doesn't detract from the rest of what's going on in the music. I can't say the same for the bulk of Donna's contributions here though. There are moments where she reigns it in decently enough like she did in '76 and '77, but all too often, she over-sings and ruins what are otherwise awesome moments. In hindsight, I really wish Jerry or Phil would have stepped-up into band leader mode and made her listen back to her performances after the shows. All too often, to my ears, her voice distracts from the awesomeness going on around her. It reminds me of an episode of Family Guy where Peter and Lois Griffin find Brian's bag of weed and decide to put their folk duo back together. In their stoned minds they thought what they were doing sounded awesome, then they show the audiences perspective and all they were doing is falling all over each other while moaning and drooling. Donna's voice can be like fingernails on a chalkboard at times for me, yet beautiful when she stays disciplined like the Spring and May '77 run. End of Donna bashing tirade... Otherwise, I think this is a very cool set with some inspired performances. The artwork and package design is another winner.
May 23, 2016 - 1:18pm

#1873

KeithFan2112

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Vocal Dial Turned Up to 11

Agree with Spacebro about one aspect of Donna's vocals in these shows. I love Donna, but there are three distinct elements to her vocal performances in these shows that creep up and detract from time to time: 1) She is over-utilized. I prefer when she did not sing on every track. Back in the early days, she used to come out for certain songs, and then retire for large parts of the show. Back in the Europe '72 days, she had her spots: Playing in the Band; Greatest Story Ever Told; Sing Me Back Home; Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad; later on in '73 / '74, she would come out for Weather Report Suite. You get the picture - she was utilized selectively. There was a truckload of songs she did not sing on, even though she was present at the show: Sugar Magnolia, Ramble On Rose, Deal, Uncle John's Band, Not Fade Away, and many many more. In contrast, by 1978, she was on-stage full time, singing on every track. All of the songs I mentioned above, I personally prefer the non-Donna versions from the early 70s. But this is only part of the story with her vocals, and this is where observation #2 comes in. 2) She is TOO HIGH IN THE MIX! There are performances in this box set, Cassidy for example, where she normally sounds very good, but is so high in the mix on these July '78 versions that it doesn't sound great. You take April 24 in Normal (just a couple months earlier) and we have a mix where she is balanced with Bobby, and they sound great. Same goes for her lead vocal in The Music Never Stops - these were performances I was anticipating enthusiastically, because she blew the door off the hinges in previous '77 / '78 versions. Too much volume, though, detracts from the performance. I also hear the typically smooth balance of Donna / Bobby and Donna / Jerry lacking on a lot of these songs, where it was intact in other releases from roughly the same period. It is important to note that this may not have even been an issue onstage at the show. Depending on how loud their stage monitors were, it may well HAVE sounded good to them. You'll notice she always sounds best on recordings derived from 16-reel Multi-track, because she has her own track that Norman can adjust volume on and mix properly into the final version we hear. And you can't really hold Betty accountable, because, while it is she who mixes them at the board (and subsequently the tape), the only thing that matters at the time of the show is how they sound to each other through the stage monitors, and how they sound over the PA to the audience. Volume was a very difficult thing to manage in the old analog days, and I think in this case, it's illustrated for us the limitations of two-track recording. 3) As Spacebro mentioned, she's a little bit too aggressive with the screams and oooh/aaaahs and other vocalization noises. I guess they all did this a bit more in '78, and that's one of the distinctions in this year of "loose more rockin' Dead". I think all of these things could have been worked out without (and some were), but it seems in the end there was some insurmountable conflict in the band as a whole, sooo.....circle the wagons boys.... I should also note - none of this makes or breaks a show for me personally, or even a song - it's more like a "well, if I had the fine tuning knob of history at my finger tips, what would I do" Cousins - LOL - funny comment about tone-deaf Bobby.
May 23, 2016 - 12:09pm

#1874

Cousins Of The…

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@Space - Donna - Slide

I feel the exact opposite: I don't mind Donna oversinging, because she does not sing over Jerry's solos(with the possible exception of Scarlet). On the other hand, Bob plays(out of tune) over Jerry's leads and while he's doing that, he's not holding the rhythm.Examples abound: Going Down the Road from the '78 30 Trips box, or even worse Sugaree from 12/28/79...Jerry's playing his heart out, while Bobby's ruining the whole feel of the jam. For a while I though he was tone-deaf, how could he not hear how off-key he played??
May 23, 2016 - 11:45am

#1875

estimating prof

Joined:
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Grateful

Happy to see that everyone is enjoying this box as much as I am! The sound quality here is just amazing in my view. I have been having fun listening to these at home and in the car. I went right for 7/7 the other night - really nice. Spent a couple of days on 7/1, which I really enjoyed. Yesterday, I went for 7/3. To my ears, the band sounds on during the second set. In general its seems the band is really "on" during all of these shows. There are a lot of nice little unique nuances and riffs in the version of many of these tunes. Last night I was able to get a nice listening state of mind and put on the headphones - post drums 7/3. Wow! What a Stella. That whole post drums set really rocked me. Show sounds so good on the headphones - true ear candy. I'm psyched to dive into these shows this summer. 7/8/78 was THE tape for me back in the 90s that really drew me into the Dead's music. I'm saving that one and can't wait. Thank you to everyone who brought us this music.
May 23, 2016 - 10:42am

#1876

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Out for delivery....

....Day of the Dead 5 disc set. Did anyone else order one of those?....
May 23, 2016 - 10:08am

#1877

Slow Dog Noodle

Joined:
June 12, 2007

So Far So Good

I made it through a couple of listens to 7-1 over the weekend. I agree with the general sentiment; very energetic despite some vocal miscues. The sound is fantastic, especially at LOUD volumes, but i did notice that bit of vocal distortion at high volume too. Is that distortion something the house heard? Or was it due to Betty's mix? Is it possible to tell? It doesn't diminish the quality or enjoyability of the show, I was just wondering. I plan to spin 7-3 tonight for a first go. Slow and steady wins the race for me. On the 30 trips front I've listened to everything except '95. Just can't bring myself to for some reason. It'll happen eventually. I was positively surprised by '92 - '94 though. I don't listen to that era much, but there were some great moments. Between 30 trips, July '78, and the Dave's picks there's a lot to digest right now. But i'm having a great time trying.
May 23, 2016 - 9:25am

#1878

MinasMorgul

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Nice List

Stoltzfus I like your list, those are some of my goto shows. No coincidence that a lot of them are multi-tracks (while two track is technically multi-track, Producers coloquially use the term multi-track in reference to 4+ tracks). But my point is, I tend to put the better sounding shows higher on my list, and multi-tracks inevitably sound better. That being said, your pick I REALLY like is 3/28/73. I thought this DaP 16 show was really really hot, but my recollection is that a lot of folks just found it to be average.
May 23, 2016 - 9:06am

#1879

stoltzfus

Joined:
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top releases that I have purchased

8/27/7212/31/76 5/2/70 July 78 12/31/78 Winterland 74 Rockin' the Rhein Stepping out with the GD Fillmore East 71 3/28/73 I love everything else, of course; these stand out to me as truly special.
May 23, 2016 - 6:39am

#1880

MinasMorgul

Joined:
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@OneMan / Other Bobby Musings

Yes, also love Bobby in China Cat, at I think the same spot you're talking about. Also love his slide playing on Stagger Lee, Closing Of Winterland - he got it right on that one! His guitar sounds very different in the late 70s, not sure what accounts for it. Sounds like some kind of mild flange effect, with high midrange, low distortion. Just guessing. Would love to know how he achieves it.

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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

American Bands

How about The Pretenders? English/American Band with Chrissie Hynde at the helm. Also, The North Mississippi Allstars deserve a nod. Little Feat will be doing a short full band tour this summer after a hiatus of several years due to Paul Barrere's health. Feat Tour as of now... 9/8/16 Boston, MA - Wilbur Theatre 9/9/16 Port Chester, NY - The Capitol Theatre 9/10/16 Huntington, NY - The Paramount 9/12/16 Washington, DC - Warner Theatre

Desire another review for 7/5/1978? Try this link .............

http://www.deadlistening.com/2008/05/1978-july-5-omaha-civic-auditorium. But for one of my favorite Grateful Dead videos: sample the 11/24/1978 show. Jerry purportedly had a cold, but what a great night. Tremendous Capitol Theatre venue with Hamza el-Din guesting (post Egypt shows) ;o} Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.

Passenger - 7/7/78

OneMan - It's in there! 7/7/78 @5:31 Seems like a long one depending on the dead air after the song.

The North Mississippi All Stars Duo

I saw then at The Allman Brothers "Another One For Woody" benefit at Roseland Ballroom and they were great. That Allmans benefit was a really great night.

4/12/78

Jim, I've never had the pleasure. I think that really cool dude I mentioned earlier forgot to include this one in my set of soundboards. One Man, you made me re-read my entire post to see if I was the culprit, but to my delight, I used both forms correctly several times. It's a pet peeve of mine as well (along with non-specific posts), and I feared the auto-correct screwed me. Then I found the guilty party. Couldn't agree more, 12/6/73 is my favorite Bonus disc, with RTR AOM close behind. I need to check out Passenger.... Mr. Jack Straw, I'm also a fan of that DP 16 ODW. Others? The 5/25/72 Disc 3 is unreal: Uncle John's Band => Wharf Rat => Dark Star => Sugar Magnolia. I play Disc 2 from Veneta '72 a lot: Playing in the Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told. Also FW Complete'69 Disc 2: Dupree's Diamond Blues, Mountain of the Moon, Dark Star => St. Stephen => The Eleven, Lovelight, Cosmic Charlie And one of my first Dead CDs, Ladies and Gentlemen Disc 4: Morning Dew, New Minglewood Blues, Wharf Rat, Aligator => Drums => Jam => Going Down The Road => Cold Rain and Snow, In the Midnight Hour. Really all 4 discs are perfect, but it's a multi-track compilation, of course it's great. novembereleven, I will check out that 7/1/78 Wharf Rat, thanks! Thin - yeah, comparing '72 to '78 is not even like comparing the same song. I guess I mentioned so the '72 gods wouldn't get upset with me for paying attention to '78. Not Fade Away. I have a weird relationship with Not Fade Away. I first heard it on Rockin' The Rhein and it's incredible. I went on to enjoy it on the other E72 shows, but dont enjoy other years much, I suppose because it only feels right with Pigpen in there. The 20 min monster from Closing of Winterland is the only other version of NFA I listen to much. I don't have anything against it if you have recommendations. The Ray Bans are the shit.

Lovin' the vibe....

....speaking of vibes, the Alabama -> GSET from 12.28.79 is full of it. Not too plinky either. Trying hard to steer clear of Orpheum '76 and July '78. I've got loads to sate my ears anyway. Spoiled like a single child.... ....if there are any beer fans out there, Anchor Steam collaborated with The Chris Robinson Brotherhood and released a tasty IPA. Worth checking out. Awesome packaging. I would post a pic, but damn this site!!.... ....speaking of Greatest Story, for the longest time when I had more hair, I mis-interpreted the "cool clear water, you can never tell" line as "nuclear water, you can never tell." Doh!!....

And speaking of '78....

....keithfan mentioned not being excited about non-'72 NFA's. I have yet to hear a shitty '78 version. Look it up.... .... (I love '72 too. I mean, it's in my name!....)

Nuclear Water....

....band name! Called it!! Now I just need a band....and learn an instrument.

4-12-78 Like Wow!!!

Thanks for posting this youtube link. I a am a huge 70s Dead fan. This show is just incredible, Jerry and Bobby are playing guitar at a very high level. Jerry is super creative, I was just going to check it out, but ended up listening to it for an hour. Never heard much from 78 except "From Egypt ,with love" Last show that I was at was Englishtown, Sept,77. Thank you, for a real good time.

4-12-78

How blessed are we? Sources available for this show SBD, AUD, MTX, DTS 5.1 surround. DVD Video with SBD audio and Bluray with choice of the four audio sources.

Today in GD history

I really do like the new LMA interface, much more detailed search options. https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3AGratefulDead+AND+titl…

It's still tasty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qnn_B0xILU&list=RD1Qnn_B0xILU

Estimated Prophet

Count me in as a fan. I love it especially when it gets really weird after Bobby is done exorcising his demons. The line "Fire wheel- Burning in the air" always makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up for some reason.

England 1978 ?

What was the plan with doing some shows in England before trip to Egypt ? Did they really want to play at Stonehenge ? 7.7.78 - some killer stuff in these final 4 from the 1st set Tennessee Jed Passenger Peggy-O The Music Never Stopped Sirius played this show a few months ago and it absolutely smokes

Bill Walton on ESPN

Watching Bill Walton on ESPN - he is invoking Jerry Garcia multiple times, and throwing out Dead lyrics left and right: "Bill, What do you think you think of Steph Curry and the Warriors?" Bill: "I love the team spirit, the way it's uplifting the west coast in excitement - California! the prophet on the burnin' shore....". He has a new book he is promoting - "Back from the Dead" - about his recovery from back issues that had him on the verge of suicide. He is such a positive and inspirational guy. His heart is huge, and his heart belongs to and was somewhat formed by the Dead - not a coincidence.

Bill Walton

Wish I could say I have met him. Well, not yet. I'd vote for him though. Think we could convince him to run? At the very least, I, too, find him entertaining on TV. The GD, in the strangest places still doing good after all these years if you look at it right.

30 Trips 1978 regarding Betty

The 1978 show from the box was recorded by Betty. So is this recording not a Betty board or would it be the first official release of a Betty board. If it is not a Betty board than what is it. Thanks. I just reread it. First from "Long Lost Betty Boards." Ah alright. The 77 from the box was recorded by Betty also.

4/12/78 Blu Ray

Fourwinds, where can I get 4/12/78 on Blu Ray? I don't see anything Google-wise

Betty

Not all Betty Boards were lost in the storage locker/auction fiasco some I believe where in the vault. The ones that were in the vault had not been mastered and released therefore they are not "long-lost" just never released. The Betty Boards for Dave's picks are part of the "long-lost" newly returned sets, the ones that had been cared for and worked on by Rob Eaton saved from languishing in some guys barn (if my memory serves me right from past readings). While the Cornell show and a few others are still being held hostage by unscrupulous audio terrorists in search of quick payday... as Bubbles would say "greee-easy."

Booze For Allah

Since it's the anniversary of the Kezar Stadium performance, immortalized on the Beyond Description Bonus CD, I think I'll listen to that version with a small (refillable) glass of Jameson. I much prefer this version to the One From The Vault version. No DeadHead should journey forth w/out it. Keith has some cool keyboards in there, almost Wakeman-like, and Stronger Than Dirt is mixed in there. I don't listen to it often, just to keep the face-melting properties intact. And it always goes with some tasty smooth Jameson, as it's in the title and all. Thanks for the reminder Kayak Guy. I'm firing it up now. Mmmm...Jameson.... Edit - okay, my listening mission is complete. Great as ever. Funny thing though - evidently it's "Blues" for Allah. "Blues"....

Have a Ball

Was having a tough time deciding- Would I rather have a new JGB release or a Golden State Warriors Jerry t-shirt? Luckily, that turned out well- T-shirt it is.

JimInMD - Sent a PM

how about Jerry in a wet GSW tshirt?

uh, nah.

England 78

They were booked to play at London's Rainbow Theatre on the way back from Egypt, as they were passing through London and could cover some costs there. In the end they cancelled, preferring apparently to head for home and finish off Shakedown Street. Would have been my first shows. They had cancelled too in 76. There were rumours over several years that they would play at Glastonbury Festival, but it never happened. In the end we had to wait until 81 (when they visited twice).

TOO

29 and counting on the Spring 90 TOO box. Get them while there hot

GD Marketing

More than 20 years after the end, the GD is still making the news. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/business-pioneers-channel-mark… I love the pic of Letterman to the right in an unrelated article sporting a Jerry beard. I bet he's listening to '78 GD.

This day in Dead history

Great link kayak. I forgot that kool Dark Star from rocking the rein bonus was on 3/23. What a great version. I like the 1969 ones a little better, but 1972, 73, and 74 is beginning to make more sense as I listen to those Dark Stars more times. Pigpen's maracas are a nice touch. Really puts me in hippie land, where I wish we live forever.

Brent's unreleased solo album....

https://youtu.be/SpqmJbBP-Jo ....was supposed to come out in 1982....

non '72 NFA

Last night my cousin (who first introduced me to this music) came for a visit and we stayed up until all hours getting mightily buzzed and listening to this wonderful music. The highlight was 4-15-70 (he prefers the Pigpen era). I've gone on at length about this show but, damn, it's absolutely fantastic. Brief as it is, the NFA that is sandwiched by Lovelight is just killer. Kick ass show from start to finish. The Jam sounds like a cover of Santana's Soul Sacrifice and the transition from Cryptical to Dire Wolf is absolutely perfect. An all time great Dancin' precedes the Lovelight>NFA>Lovelight. It's always fun to find a favorite show out of my favorite era (pre-hiatus Keith).

misunderstood lyrics

Nuclear Water, cool name for a band, Vguy, just don't ask "W" to introduce you as he'll mispronounce it. For years, during Ramble On Rose, I thought Jerry was singing, "The Logan County line..."

just gotta say

a show I am very familiar with, 8/31/78, sounds really beautiful this evening. 1/2step>elpaso :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

danc, et al

Time to stop taking our talking points and attitudes from the spoon-fed brainwashing we currently take as gospel, and start researching the facts and making up our own minds. It's very easy to take the cues on what the "cool kids" all believe in (Hollywood, I'm looking at you) and simply take up that position as our own, without really looking into what the fk is really going on. Question for you: Do you believe in free speech? I mean, truly believe in it. I know I do. Then why is it OK to suppress free speech by shutting down (with violence and threats of violence) the political opposition's rallies and conferences, as happened in Chicago? Isn't that what "fascists" do? Stifle any speech that they don't agree with? And if so, then why aren't those conservative "fascists" we've been warned about not trying to shut down our rallies and conferences in the same way we do to theirs? Could it be that they actually believe in free speech? llogical...Does not compute. I must reexamine what I've been told... Shouldn't we instead be combatting views we disagree with by offering our own coherent arguments, rather than using intimidation, throwing punches and blocking highways like thugs? And how is it OK for colleges to suppress any speech that goes against the mainstream because student groups who are too scared to actually debate different ideas disrupt any speech with which they disagree, and instead demand "safe spaces" where their beliefs are never questioned? Are we raising a generation of free thinkers, or non-questioning sheep who simply parrot what their radical professors have indoctrinated them to believe the "truth" to be? It is rather ironic that those who are so stuck in the past, and who still fancy themselves as being the "anti-establishment" and the height of "cool," have yet to realize that they have now become the very establishment who they always railed against, and are now enforcing complete conformity to their views, and that those who bravely challenge their iron grip on the public discourse are the true anti-establishment warriors of today. It is also sadly ironic that those who once purported to champion free speech, are now so comfortable in denying (by any means, including violence) the free speech of others. But hey, the means justify the ends, right? But maybe I'm a "racist" for even daring to question the status quo. After all, isn't anyone who disagrees with political correctness automatically a "racist." Aren't all "conservatives" also automatically "racists?" That's what we're taught by every sitcom, every program, every talking head, and every college professor, isn't it? I don't know, have I said anything even remotely racist, ever? Ah never mind, I must be an evil racist since I'm espousing certain views (or you just sense I am not completely "on board" with the herd mentality, since I'm not using the proper buzzwords to indicate my "coolness" and conformity with the allowed belief system), so you can just disregard my opinion altogether, maybe even get a group to shout me down, you know, in the name of "peace" or "justice" or something. It doesn't really matter, as long as you use the correct terminology, people will believe you. That's what this world has come to. The movie "Idiocracy" comes to mind. I suppose this will be my last post, since so many will object to my speaking out, so I wish you all well and many years of enjoyment of this great music we all love. I'll be on the Catskill mountains with a rifle on my shoulder, a six-shooter (actually, a 16-shooter) in my hand, I've been all around this world... I'll be wishing for peace, but preparing for the dangerous reality that your politically correct blindness and stupidity will likely bring...

Off The Rails Again

What triggered the political rant? Something I missed that was later removed? Take it easy up there in the mountains, dantian. Things won't be the same around here without you. I for one enjoy the dissenting views, even if I find value in what some call political correctness. But I don't wanna talk about that here!

One man

Right, as long as the quips are from your perceived side, they're just fine and not conisidered "political," even though that's exactly what they are. You see, when the cool kids do it, it's fine, that's how it works. Sadly, in time you'll know I was right in what we spoke about couple months past, though it wasn't cool for me to say. That's my problem though, always have to be true, even if it ain't cool ;) Take care, bro.

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Do the catskills have Wifi?

If so dantian you can still get archive.org. 26 years ago today the Knickerbocker Arena opened in Albany NY. It was the first show I bought from a ticketbroker (legal scalper) at the outrageous fee of $100 a ticket. I just had to be there and wanted to make sure I had tix for the entire run. This show while officially released, the 1st set is spread out over 4 different releases to make for a frankenshow. What's up with that Rhino??? You can hear the whole show in lesser, but complete versions as part of todays LMA choices. https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3AGratefulDead+AND+titl…

For your consideration.

This is some disturbing stuff to wake up to, not sure what provoked this vitriolic venting. Here is something about the Republican party, the real intentions of the "war on drugs" and is straight from a primary source, John Ehrlichman, enjoy! https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/ If you would like more information about why following the Republican party as it stands today often gets people labeled (incorrectly or not) as a racist, ignorant sheep of oligarchial wanna-be tyrants let me know. I've done lot of my own research! And to try and say that the only violence and suppression of free speech is coming from the protesters, you need to do more research about what is going on at Republican rallies.

Tweet - FOUL!

Flush the self-righteous political diatribes elsewhere, please. We don't want them here. Thanks!

down with political rants on here

No more political rants on here, please. Don't know what "little quip" got you riled up, don't care. Quite frankly, a quip can be easily ignored or brushed off, your rant, however..... Don't need that crap here from either side-- we get it enough in our daily lives. Take your 16-shooter up to the mountains to protect yourself from the liberal masses, don't care. To make this music related, got myself a sweet 5th row ticket to see Tedeschi Trucks in a beautiful theater in June on Derek Trucks' side. I have never seen him play, really looking forward to it.

Opinions

This is supposed to be a site for talk about the Dead and their music. Please keep it on topic, regardless of how right / wrong your other ideas might be. This is not the place. We have lost enough good posters already. Please don't drive more away with your inappropriate, off-topic diatribes. Rock on

Supper's Ready

I discovered Peter Gabriel Era Genesis in the Spring of '93. I've rarely listened to anything other than the Dead for the past two years, but it's a beautiful Spring day, and Supper's Ready.

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Tedeschi Trucks

So jealous - dying to see them. Spent the entire day listening to them at work the other day. Amazing band....

Keithfan thumbs up

I think that I will get out my copies of Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound! I love Gabriel-era Genesis. Only the best 70s-aged vintage prog!

How do you post a picture?

How'd you do that 80s fan? I don't see any directions or options to do so, and copy / paste sure ain't working. droidmec - yes, those two albums go together nicely, both sonically and stylistically, like a double album.

Thursday morning

Praise the dawningIt's just a restless feeling by my side Early dawning, Thursday morning It's just the wasted years so close behind Watch out, the world's behind you watch out indeed. politics lurk everywhere. Now go listen to 8/31/78.

Brent's solo album

Thanks for the head's up, I haven't listened yet but have downloaded.

politics and more

I agree with One Man,,, where did that come from? And Hbob,,, take it elsewhere. I can be just as big of a nut job with politics as the next guy, but not here. Also agree with Keithfan,,,,, How'd you post that picture willis? :-) Phil stuff.... anybody been listening to the Phil and friends shows that celebrate a given show from a given year,, they are up to 1985 tomorrow night (3/25), most seem posted on youtube. They start off with a talk about the given year (price of bread, songs on the top 40, prices of homes, what the dead were doing), then they play "a show". They've been good and I've been downloading them. Google search "youtube 19?? phil and friends", you should get hits. You can find the setlist in the "phil zone". Lockn - if Lockn on your mind, they just announced another round of artist playing there, some more good stuff. 80's fan - like Tedeschi trucks band, check out this cover, blows me away, her vocals and dereks slide work at the end,,,, wow!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtG5bT13m8U

How's It Selling?

What's the trick to find out how many of these are left? With 30 trips people kept posting how many were left, was wondering how many of these are still available. Really just want to wait until the credit card rolls over, but will buy sooner if I have too. To the question about missing Betty Boards from earlier, a lot of the reels were left in the vault. Sometimes even 2 of the 3 show reels would be there and one was in the storage locker. It seems Betty took the reels out of some sort of spite, but could not take them all.

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