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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    Day 2 / Europe '72 / April 8, 1972 2nd night at the Wembley Empire Pool. Opens with one of several great Bertha performances of the tour. Jerry throws in some aggressive chord fills throughout that make it one of my favorites. Bertha seldom sounded better. This show has a lot of other standout performances as well. If I had to pick one of every song on the tour, I might grab a few from this night: Cumberland Blues, Deal, Big Railroad Blues, Beat It On Down The Line, and Hurts Me Too; all just super-tight. Nothing wrong with the other songs, just comparing these to other renditions on the tour. First Good Lovin' of the tour, and one of my favorites. Jerry throws in a great stab right at the "Come'on baby" line about a minute ten into the song that always begs to be turned up to 11. It's also one of the short versions (10 min), in case you're making a 4th of July mix and you don't want to impress the relatives with the Refrigerator Repairman story (although he's still going to jump in the saddle and ride). Bobby shines on the jam, and is up in the mix. I loved his sound in the pre-hiatus days. Also notable - Jerry stays on guitar for all of the April performances; by Rotterdam in May, he jumps on the organ for the Good Lovin' Reprise. Personally, I prefer him on guitar - it really gives the main riff a smooth jazzy groove (along with Keith's pie-anner) - for 2 and half minutes at the beginning and end, they sound like the Vince Guaraldi Trio. And of course the Dark Star is in my personal top 10. Great pre-vocal jazzy improv jamming for 12 minutes or so, where you have Jerry delivering those thoughtful, deliberate lead bits like only he can do (I envision him listening to what's going on around him, processing it for a moment, and then responding with these flurries of notes that somehow fill the space immaculately); underneath him you have Keith's piano wanderings providing a tranquil atmosphere like running water, unobtrusive and necessary, yet as effortless and natural to him as breathing (the man speaks piano). Then they get into Space for 10 minutes or so, but they don't go completely off the rails full-bore cacophony mode on this one (which is fine with me); and then comes some of the best melodic improv I've heard in a Dark Star, reminiscent of the core elements in Mind Left Body, Beautiful Jam, and Tighten Up. Before you realize it, they're into Sugar Magnolia and you're rewinding the tape to see if you zoned out or if it really is one of the smoothest transitions they've ever done (hint - it's both). Caution is nice, and they don't play it much on this tour, so enjoy it while you can. andoverdeadhead - thanks for the explanation. I was curious if they had reneged on the 15% off, simply because it wasn't in stock. I didn't have the Aerosmith belt buckle, but I sure had the KISS Destroyer one.
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    Day 1 / Europe '72 / April 7, 1972 Jimbo, 44 is the magic #. What are your favorites from this one? I like the two "clear cool water"s from Donna on this Greatest Story. Also love The Other One / El Paso / Wharf Rat medley. I ordered a Wembley Empire Pool t-shirt last week :) Anyone else diving into E72 Complete this Spring? I started last week, for fear of falling behind. I'm up to Tivoli 2, the sequel, 4/17......
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    Thanks for the heads up on the Europe '72 being such a big discount. I had been thinking of picking up for a while and was able to get Europe '72, From The Vault Box and Grateful Dead Movie sound track for less then Europe '72 was originally.
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    About the discounted E72 sets, the 15% discount ended the Monday after BFRSD weekend and it reverted to full price at that time. So I missed out on the RSD special price but went ahead and ordered one anyway in mid-December and it was not until then that I learned it had gone out-of-stock. So mine was back-ordered for about 2 months until it became available again in early Feb. But I am happy just the same to have finally gotten one of the All Music Editions after reading all the effusive posts for much of the past year or more. By the by, KeithFan, let me join the chorus of those who have congratulated you on scoring one of the steamer trunks. A good call on getting a pristine set of the CDs to go with it, while you could!
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    Hey, I had that Aerosmith belt buckle too - the one with the font from Toys in the Attic. I'd wear that today if I could find it. Their early work is classic. I wish there was more in the vein of their first 4 albums. Keef is fantastic, though not like the blazing lead players y'all are comparing him to. He lifted an open G slide guitar tuning from Ry Cooder and wisely adapted it to non-slide playing, thus inventing the classic Stones sound heard on so many of their biggest hits. Anyone else playing this way is instantly pegged as an imitator. His most recent solo record is his best work with or without Mick in many many years. The man has deep deep soul, and that can't be measured by "best guitarist" standards.
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    Just gave another listen to the full E72 box over the past month or two. 22 Monster shows that keep on giving. Lots of Pigpen--lookin' high, lookin low. Greatest tour ever from the greatest band ever? Probably. I'm in for the '78 box-set. Still listen to the Daves Pick 15 (4-22-78) quite a bit and love it. Red Rocks release--bring it! Artwork looks killer. Used to read a few Paul Pope graphic novela (allright comic books basically) awhile back. Still recall one trippy series called "Heavy Liquid." Not sure if Pope is an Iggy Pop/Stooges or Dead fan, but seems safe to assume so. Yeah, great American bands, I'll throw out The Stooges, if they haven't been mentioned. Great and pure protopunk. A little later than the Pranksters Acid Tests for sure but I believe they dosed themselves heavily and often before performing. Music still holds up well. Rush--never listened to them much--but they were huge in the day. Grew up near Boston so Aerosmith were on the turntable as a young kid quite a bit. Had a big brass Aerosmith belt buckle I used to wear back in Junior High thinking I was all that. Bought it at one of those mall smoke shops we used to have. Watch "Geeks and Freaks"on Netflix if ever nostalgic for those times. One season only, but great show. Season (and show) ends with Linda Cardellini (the "Lindsey Weir" character) heading off to follow the Dead on tour. Nice way to wrap up a cancelled show which would launch so many acting careers. Great stuff. Keith Richards gets respect for being part of "Exile on Main Street" alone, aside from technical skills as guitar-playing. Ron Asheton gets mention as a great guitarist--but enough on the Stooges. He used to always rank up there on those old Rolling Stone best guitarists lists. (Lower than Jerry, of course.) Mellow listening to Dylan's "Tempest" tonight before the final workday of the week. Yeahh, I was for UNC. Heartbreaker. Peace.
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    That's funny, I saw the same dancing silhouettes at the Jethro Tull show many years ago. Yeah, I got into them in '85, so they were past their major creative peak. If 2112 through Moving Pictures were five A+ records, and Signals was an A-, then the rest of that came after were B-, B, and B+ records, with anywhere from 2-4 A songs....if that makes any sense (ok, maybe a couple of C+ records in there, but there were still a few great songs on every LP). Their most recent studio release (Clockwork Angels) was probably the best record they made since Signals; I think if they pared it down to 45 minutes from 60, it could have been an A record. Personally, I don't think they ever should have let Terry Brown go (he was their producer during the golden years). But anyway, when I first got into them, they weren't really playing too much of their great stuff on stage. They smoothed themselves out on synthesizers and all but ran from their past - but they didn't get far, and my worst fear - that I would never hear the classic stuff on stage - never came true. They slowly came full circle, and by last summer, their entire two hour second set didn't contain anything more recent than Moving Pictures. They are the perfect blend of hard and prog rock.
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    'Course, I'm not the one to say for sure, but having completely worn out my cassette copy of 2112 in high school, I can only imagine that the 2112 in KeithFan's handle refers to the ultimate Canadian power trio. Good lord, but Neil Peart was an amazing drummer and lyrisict. Man, it's been many years since I regularly listened to Rush. ...cue harp music and wavy visuals.... When I was in college, Rush played the StarLake Amphitheater outside of Pittsburgh. Summer solstice. A buddy and I drove over from State College for the show. So there I was, way up on the lawn, floating through the Roll The Bones stuff while waiting for the "real" Rush, when I noticed on the really high wall behind the stage, these huge shadowy dancing silhouettes that were totally in sync with the music and moving in this sort of trancy groovy dance. Being in the state of mind that I was in, I was totally intrigued and mesmerized by said dancing silhouettes, and after pondering on it for some time I concluded that it was some sort of laser light show associated with the band on stage. It didn't really seem like a Rush thing, but I though it was cool nonetheless. Fast forward to the end of the show; my buddy and I are walking through the parking lot, which by then was full of deadheads who, it turns out, were there because Jerry and company would be playing that venue for the next 2 nights (and about which I was completely unaware). Turns out, some of those folks had been grooving to the Rush sound next to the amphitheater wall whilst spotlights cast their shadows high upon the wall, and some were still dancing in the spotlights to the post-concert music blaring over the sound system. Suddenly, I understood why I'd seen dancing silhouettes. Long story short, my buddy and I ended up hanging out with some deadheads in the parking lot, and I remember really digging music that I'd never before given much consideration. Through the foggy haze of memory, I seem to remember a bus coming by and... well, you can probably guess the rest. ~Quod
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    Never got into Dire Straits other than a few songs here and there. Decided to go see them with friends in the early 90s. Awful. Yup. Awful. Way too loud. Everyone complaining. Sheer nonsense. Got a chance to see Knopfler again on the All the Road Running tour, sadly without Emmylou. Phenomenal. ABB, Stones, etc. Who cares what they all say. Saw them all live. Listen to them rarely anymore. Just go watch Townsend disappear on stage in Germany back in 81 when he knew he was outmatched. Keith, congrats on your purchase. You will never be disappointed. A great price for a timeless tour. Clued my brother in to the offer as well and he picked up a set. Enjoy.
  • KeithFan2112
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    I had to buy a E72 All Music Edition. I already have it, but now that I have the trunk, the temptation to fill it with brand spanking new CDs - more than I can resist. I actually tried buying a backup copy back in Nov or Dec when it was 15% off. You know what came in the mail? 4/7/72 - and only 4/7/72. How I freaked out. Then they said they didn't have it in stock and that it would take awhile to get it from some other warehouse. I guess andoverdeadhead, you had the same experience, as you said you had to wait until February to receive yours. What I don't understand, is why you had to pay $450, since you had ordered it when it was 15% off? BTW there are only two left. I have a feeling there are more somewhere. I've seen these restock on the website before. Keith Richards - one of my favs. Doesn't play lead well enough to ever be mentioned in a "greatest guitar player" conversation. Agree he's in the top ten songwriters, and I would actually promote him to top 5 based on his finesse as a rhythm player and sound innovator (nobody had a tone like him, due to the open G tuning, which he brought to rock 'n roll). Combine that with the massive amount of songs he wrote, and he's got to be weighted closer to top 5 than 10 on some scale.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Not much for the political discussions on this site, but just wanted to let you know you are not alone in your views. Not a fan of either the republican or democrat political parties, as from my view both want to control the sheeple, its just a question of which rights each party wants to take away first, and from whom. "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed and are right." H.L. Mencken
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I love democracybut I hate politics we've been around since 1776. I think we'll be OK. I vote for 6/10/73. Great show, appropriate city.
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The missing Betty Boards were just the ones she had on hand or was listening to at the time. They were always her tapes whether they were being kept with the band's stuff or not. She even told the band they should come and get them before the auction was imposed, but they just weren't interested.
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Last Danc post I can find in this thread is this: March 21, 2016 - 9:18am #173 danc Offline Joined: Sep 11 2007 Fresno reminder I heard the latest Dave's for the first time this past weekend. Really do love it, despite my shock (and no awe) at the big fluffs/miscues here and there, e.g. climax of He's Gone... garage band stuff! How fabulous to NAIL U.S. Blues in the middle of the second set, in the middle of the Summer of '74, as the essay notes. Them old U.S. Blues -- Trump won't win in a landslide per Nixon's second victory, however the U.S. is staying very '72 it seems, or perhaps worse. IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. ______________________________________________________________________________________ I guess that was too much! I was born and raised in the area Dantian talks about. Loved the land, but not the people. I won't go on, as I get pretty nasty about politics and suchlike....
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I just placed my order for the 78 boxset. I whiffed a few times before on boxes so I am not going to miss this one. I was never really big on 78 but it seems the more I hear the more I want to consume. Sure it wasn't 71, 72, 76 or 77 but it sounds good to me! cheers (and 2 rules at the bar - no religion and no politics)
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I too am going to wait, I don't like the business practice for making us pay for a box of shows 6 weeks before they ship, take the money out when you ship rhino, come on now, we want the music, but now it's almost like you want us to pay to have them made first, then ship them. Have not heard these shows, short shows, only 2 discs for the lost betty board shows, so why so short and then, the 2 in red rocks are 3 discs. Not a big 78 fan and I have heard that the Deal on the red rocks show is a scream fest between Bobby and Donna, not a big fan of the scream fests. So, I will wait and see, hopefully, I won't miss out.
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my dog has no nose. No nose? how does he smell? bloomin' awful.
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great article Jim, it truly shows how innovative the GD have always been with their marketing tactics. Love the reference to the Wall Street Heads toward the end as well; nice to know that the kindness can permeate into every field and actually have it help drive some people's work ethic and values when perhaps we may have thought them to be non-existent as outsiders. amazing idea in this day and age. I didn't even recognize Letterman at first. Good for him, let it all hang out. Sixtus

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Can it really have been 29 years ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRcVBF8wQc charlie3, Nice Mencken quote. stoltzfus, The Roman Empire lasted a lot longer than 240 years, and they weren't impervious to crumbling from within. And we've progressed, culturally & technologically, at a much faster pace. But I appreciate the positive sentiment! Even if it's worse than it appears, we will get by. A blessed Holy Thursday to the Catholic heads among us...and everyone else, too.
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Picked one I attended. Thanks man.. Spring '87. What a difference a year made and what a recovery Jerry was making. Totally revived and refreshed. Gave us all hope and new energy. Hampton was my spring stomping ground, it was a bit of a drive from where I was living, but I seemed to be able to fit the pilgrimage into my school schedule year after year. Always an adventure. Thanks man..
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3/24/87 in it's candidacy for the United State of the next Dave's Pick. Man, the crowd reaction during that Terrapin says it all. What a fantastic show! Thanks for sharing and reminding me to give the whole thing a listen.
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Isn't it interesting that after all of the recent Keith talk that there are piano keys displayed prominently on the box?
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There was some interesting discussion regarding Keith vs Brent - sounds, playing, etc... Wondering if anyone else felt that the same as the famous tag lines of Keith being asked to leave because he was parroting Jerry's lines and not being able to function musically was said on purpose by writers close to the band to calm the transition that the core band decided to make because of other reasons- stealing drugs, bad vibes from fights with Donna, maybe if there was some resentment Keith had for other members sleeping with Donna, or wanting a more synth/fender rhodes type sound - but not playing ability. Same with Brent - I didn't notice the plinking in live recordings until late '80s, which to me was an awful music box sound... The early Brent had a great synth sound that again, I believe Jerry and the band wanted to explore and Keith was not too keen on- reconstruction and JGB also had that sound and plus with Merl S influence we see why Jerry may have wanted a fender rhodes/organ type player and that could be some factor in Keith's dismissal. Back to why Brent didn't last- I think that maybe Brent's going over the edge was not ultimately due to addiction and fear of detox from the DUIs but maybe the writing was on the wall that the band was going to go back to more of a Keith sound and get Bruce H or just another player that was more functional and did not give suicide vibes and he couldn't take it... or the organization knew they needed to keep touring and if Brent was in jail the show must go on with someone else. Anyway - pure speculation but its interesting to think that there could be some spin as to what the real reasons were for the dissatisfaction/end of both keyboardists...
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More DVD style packaging that won't fit on my CD shelf. I'd rather something like the 1969 Fillmore West box or the Winterland boxes, even So Many Roads. Why not just make them like Sunshine Daydream and i can just put it in storage next to that, the Spring 1977 and the Warlocks box.
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Bobby: "I'm moving to Australia." ________________________________________ Kayak Guy - if you turn it on its side, it'll fit I suspect, although of course it may stick out depending on shelf-depth. Glass half full?
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That's not really fitting on my CD shelf if it's hanging off the end. Another thing for the storage room and not the CD wall/Jerry shrine. a small disappointment, but still just think about the how the CDs will be secured in the DVD style box, there's no room for digipacks, it's sleeves that will scratch the CDs when you take them out.
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I can't really tell much about the box dimensions or cd packaging from the picture. Hope the cases are not sleeves like 30 Trips- I'm not a fan of those cases. Maybe it's time for the secret weapon- Miss Cleo from the Psychic Readers Network. This would atleast solve the packaging riddle.
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Sixtus - Been down under for 7.5 years and still loving it! (Except for waiting on Dave's Picks to arrive. Sometimes it takes forever.)
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it must be on the back side of that box. That rhymed too many times. errrr....... I can't wait for the great shots of the Red Rocks and all of us there, screaming and dancing as our band elevated us all. This will be a delight to revisit those 'daze' back in July of 78 and the joy of towing you all into the shared bliss of our collective 'flashback'. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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It appears to be the same format as the Spring 1977 box which while beautiful, does not fit on the CD shelves and ended up in a ziplock freezer bag in storage.The overly tight sleeves make not scratching the CDs difficult are yet another design flaw. http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-box-digital PS. the new artwork is cool, but the package size is still nonstandard for audio boxes. Why not use the LP format box and digipacks like the 1990 boxes and give us the artwork in LP sized printings we can appreciate without a magnifying glass. http://www.dead.net/features/sketch-pad-making-july-1978-complete-recor…
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Then again, I kinda like the artwork from Spring '77. I keep putting this stuff up proudly in my office and my gf keeps trying hide it and chick the place out. Not gonna happen! Seriously.. this box is a coup for all of us. One of the more treasured runs in GD lore, returned betty's, beautiful artwork, a great Oroboros and HendrixFreak series of stories. In the immortal words of hbob and the good doctor, Rock On.
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....there is a simple remedy if it happens. Use 2 or 3 drops of paste toothpaste (not gel), grab a lint free cloth, and rub outwards. Rise with tap water. And dry with said cloth. Also outwards. Ta Da!....
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I may have missed it but does anyone know how much the downloads will cost? Maybe the same as the physical? and uh, maybe not?
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arent these some of the betty boards she had called to tell the office she had and wanted to get to them when she was being evicted and the GD office wouldnt return her calls? then they were found many years later in a storage locker someone bought...since the people didnt want to deal with the legalities they pretty much handed them over to GDP, but poor betty gets nothing out of this...pretty pathetic, i think GDP should share the wealth with her
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Vguy72 Could you explain in more detail? Are you saying to rub the CD? For a second there, I thought maybe you were talking about how to prevent scratching. So looking forward to this box!
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Nowhere does Vguy72 refer to CDs, so he is obviously referring to the cases. You apparently have to apply toothpaste to the inside of the case and rub outwards. Presumably one should remove the CD from the case before doing this. Afterwards, it would seem like a good idea to hang the rinsed case up to dry completely before returning the CD to what remains of the case. Good luck with this remedy. Will the first person to try this please post a video for the rest of us to enjoy!
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too funny. Yes the toothpaste on the cd can correct scratches on the cd themselves. I have not gone this far yet and tried it. Usually I have had luck just taking a light lent free cloth and rub the disk to get them to play again. I have read and seen it done. On a bad cd, I have taken it to a (still in business) cd/dvd exchange store where they have a refinisher. This usually takes care of the really bad disks. I am busy with work right now, vguy can explain much better... Here is a link to look at https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=removing+scratches+on+a+cd
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I find reality checks like yours disturbing at times. 26 years ago?!? Jeez....that was a quick quarter century. It seems like just a few years ago they had that contest to name the place. And, as I understand it, it's not even called that anymore. The naming rights went to a bank or something just as creative. We left NY about 15 years ago and I haven't kept up on much from the old homestead excepting a few good people. I know I'm just the latest of the millions of people who are shocked by the briskness of time once we get past our twentieth year, but I still felt the need to say it. I guess I'll just let out a big sigh and get back to work, now.
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I think the box looks GREAT. I think it will be about the size of cd's (like winterland and fillmore and 3 from the vault. Scratches - I don't know about anyone else, but I use the "SkipDr". Have it for 4 or 5 years now. I get a LOT of cd's and dvd's from the library and they can be in terrible condition. This stupid thing works. It can be slow, but it does work. You stick the cd in it and turn the crank, it rotates the disc while spinning a "grinding" wheel. I've taken some incredibly bad scratches out and gotten cd/dvd to work again. A must have in my book. Get replacement grind wheels when you buy one, they don't last forever.
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not sure but I would imagine it would cost the same, if not a little less. no packaging, shipping, etc. It wouldn't cost more, i would think.
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"and not too expensive" (MPfans should get that) looks like a good product. we hates it when the precious music skips.
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I tried the toothpaste method. It sealed up the big cavity in the center of the disc.
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I haven't used it on a CD, but i've used it on my son's x-box games and can tell you the toothpaste method absolutely works!
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I've had the guy at my local record store tell me Turtle Wax or anything that buffs/waxes your car works. I've never used it myself so I can't say.
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Not sure if the scratches are fixed, but my CD's are now pearly white. Colgate Advanced White. Actually gonna give it a try on my Sunshine Daydream CD.
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I guess I am lucky, or just so damn careful, that I don't have this issue. I have over 2,000 cds and zero scratches! I guess that is due to the fact that I don't let anyone else touch these babies and I treat them like the crown jewels. I wish I was in as good a shape as my discs! lol. Rock on
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This is looking good. 5-8-77 in the works as a single box on the way ala Sunshine Daydream. No video. But stand alone box set is coming.
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I don't know if I want to risk toothpaste on my 2011 Road Trips Bonus CD from 12/6/73. I was lucky to get that for a buck seventy-five. Since there's a sign on my lawn that says Dead Storage, I'll tell you - the first thing I did to solve the issue with CDs getting scratched by the sandpaper lining in the cases, was to remove them all from the cases and store them in a CD album. It was cool, because I bought a black case that held a couple hundred CDs, and I ordered a bunch of Dead stickers to put all over it, like a cheap version of the E72 steamer trunk. Unfortunately I was finding even this caused some abrasions on the CD playing surface, which really pissed me off after all of the effort and probably a hundred bucks in CD albums and stickers. What I ended up doing was putting all of my Dead CDs in those generic white CD sleeves (you know which ones), and I store them in the CD bays of the 30 Trips storage crates (and I put my 30 Trips covers with all of the others - on display on my shelves, like books). Problem resolved. Unfortunately, it takes four 30 Trips crates to hold everything that's been officially released between 1966 and 1978 (I left the 80s and 90s stuff in the CD albums), so it's not a solution that will work for everyone - but you can implement the white sleeve solution just as easily by buying a generic CD chest (or build your own if you're handy!). You can try ebay for the empty 30 Trips crates, though it was easier to get them when the box set first came out. There are six CD bays in each box, and each bay can hold 15 - 18 CDs, depending on how thick the sleeves are (they vary by manufacturer I discovered) and how many you want to stuff in there. I do 15 per bay, so about 90 per crate. I have a fifth crate for the next 90 CDs they release......
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Do tell more, what know you of this fabled 5/8/77 release??? Or is that just positive speculation?
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Listening now...my brain is melting into my morning coffee cup... ;-) Way to rock the Heartland...
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Almost all my box sets with tight cardboard sleeves have arrived with at least one CD in the set with a minor, but still playable visible scratch. It's seems like they are scratched when being assembled, I am VERY careful with my CDs and I don't even let other people look at them let alone touch them. The toothpaste trick is something to do when you decide to resell the CDs, not before the 1st play. Tight sleeves are not archival, though they might look cool enough to score a packaging Grammy for the Rhino team. If so many people remove the CDs from the original packaging and use alternate CD sleeves, doesn't it seem like there is a problem? Go back and read any of the recent 70's boxes comment sections and as soon as they are delivered, the boards are filled with complaints about scratched CDs, ripped sleeves and "special methods" to get the CDs out of the sleeves without damaging the sleeves or scratching the CDs. At least when they do the 1980's boxes they use digipacks, they should all be like that and then they could all be on the same shelf and proudly displayed, not hidden in storage because of their non standard sizing. Maybe they think 1970's fans will take anything they can get and have to try harder on the 1980's boxes ;)
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Speaking of protecting cd's, a personal favorite is the Medusa Maneuver. It's one of the Hickory Smoked Spells, and if anyone stares too long at my discs, their hair turns into the scales of the Komodo dragon. In terms of protection, maybe cd packaging peaked with hard plastic cases. Fortunately, Dave's Picks found a balance between cd protection and sustainability.
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Reminds me of Nigel-"don't even look at it"
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