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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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    Why is this still on sale?
    I can only answer for myself, and it's very simple; DiP 18 and, if i felt I needed any more than that, Red Rocks is available separately. on a separate note; does anyone know, is Betty getting her dues; I and several others have asked, and I haven't seen any kind of response at all. If not, surely a Pledge page would be good; or is there already one up? Anyone know?
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    Kayak Guy hit the nail on the head
    "This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated.Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy?" This is very insightful indeed. I can see no other explanation for the disparity.
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    Taking the threads back from the hackers
    This page for a while was filled with hackers posting away. when i translated some of it through google before it was cleaned up, it was polish slang for "i like this place" and "these people are funny". This set rocks BIGLY, you should consider yourselves lucky its still available for cost and still numbered editions. If you don't have it yet, it's worth the money and the artwork is fantastic, in the style of a graphic novel. Compared to other recent boxes that feature Normanized versions of Betty's that have been in circulation for 30 years, This July 78 box has 4 unreleased Betty's, well 3 and a Stereo upgrade from the mono that circulated. This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated. Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy? In any event if you haven't got it yet, you really should grab this box before it sells out and it becomes speculative on ebay, if just for the box and artwork.
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    The Bigger Question is....
    Why has this not sold out, its fantastic. Yes.. music today and the constant Russian Hackers is a big part of the reason, the other part is beyond an initial rollout strategy, they have no involvement. For the longest time this thread faded was not even prevalent from the home page of dead.net. I'm not complaining, I have mine and love it.. I just come to this thread from time to time and think wtf?
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    Why is this still on sale?
    You all have good guesses, as good as mine, which is. The real reason this is still available is the meltdown of Music Today shortly after the release, the website going to comments only mode for months until the Dave's subscription was announced, when NOTHING was available for purchase, and the still cryptic hint above that at some point it will be available digitally "on release day". Its very likely there are 2000 people that would have bought the box if it was the only option, but waited for the digital version instead. Add to that some short term memory loss and short attention spans and you have over 2000 copies left of this box set which I like much better than the Spring 77 box. I love this artwork and would have spent lots of dead presidents on T shirts, posters, and other schwag if offered. I also feel many people pay attention to their browsers and for months this site has been unsafe and I have to click through 2 browser warnings just to log in that say the site is bad for my internet security. NO where else on the internet do i have to click the 2nd "Are you Sure?" dialog box. What's up with that, someone saving IT money by waiting for a new interface, maybe ROAR as the core in the fall? Meanwhile the site limps along on, unsecured until the next explosion when Dave's 22 goes on sale shortly before May 77 part 1 ships and people find out if they got a limited edition or music only version. I bet that will be fun times on the board ;)
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    I agree Dschian on each of your points. I think it is noteworthy, however that this one is dragging on with 17% of the inventory still left after a year. I think they planned on this one moving faster and I don't blame them. I would have thought that 3 totally uncirculated betty boards and two classics with one only circulating in mono would have generated more buzz. I suspect Rhino and Co. thought the same and thus the 15k. It seems like each release gets core customer sales in the 10k range. That number represents those of us who are so pathetically obsessed that we buy everything no matter what. Then the remaining 5k in sales are the "investors" and occasional buyers. I think that dependable 10k in sales per release is pretty clearly indicated by the numbers set for the FW69 box, early DaPs etc. I think the DaP numbers have gone up only because of the demand created by the second hand market. I do find the hue and cry over limited editions a bit exasperating as I think I understand the considerations being made here and the need to limit stock on hand and warehousing. Really, if we would dependably buy 100k per release they would gladly print it; I'm sure of it. We cant blame the manufacturer for trying to avoid inventory warehousing expenses. This release is a clear indication to me that they have the number set just about right to accomplish their goal of printing and moving releases on a continual release schedule.
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    Yup, 80% of the run sold in one year- Rhino knows its base well
    Yup, 0ver 80% of the run sold in about a year; at this rate, the rest will probably sell in the next two to three years. Based upon what I've seen buying modern cd and lp releases, it's not unusual for a run to take a few years (and sometimes up to twice that time) to sell out, even for many popular releases. In that respect, wadeocu, yes, Rhino knows its customer base quite well. Nearly every other Dead limited edition/limited release has sold out relatively quickly (from a few days to several months), and even the slower ones, like the second Spring '90 box and the May '77 one, sold out within a few years or less. Believe it or not, Rhino's goal is probably not to make sure that these sell out in a heartbeat, but to sell the greatest number without multiple production runs or endless inventory. I for one am glad that people don't always have to rush to immediately buy one or have to otherwise search for it on ebay at inflated prices. Recently Rhino sold over $2 million dollars worth of the new box set (before the all-music release that followed) within three days, even with the first marked by technical difficulties- by any standard, that's pretty impressive nowadays for physical media.As a follow-up to my recent post below, finally got a chance to hear my Winterland 1977 box again (I have a huge listening backlog) and came away much more impressed by it than by the first May 1977 box, with the exception of the latter's 5/13 show, which is excellent and the best of them. I still do think, though, that overall the Summer 1978 box outranks the May '77 box in quality of shows.
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    1977 the last great year for the Dead?
    Rbmunkin, while in some respects 1977 WAS the last great year for the Dead- chiefly in the reliability of their musicianship, according to what I've heard from later years- it certainly wasn't their last great year for many listeners in terms of many, many great later performances. To put my bias in context, my favorite Dead years are 1969 and 1972-'74, so I'm not an '80's deadhead, though I attended the bulk of my shows during the earlier part of that decade and love many of the shows from its first half.I have both the May 1977 box set and the July '78 one, and to my ears the 1978 one is substantially better. I say that because while the 1977 performances in that box are all reasonably strong, they're not always particularly exciting to me. The band, and Jerry in particular, strike me as being in a more predictable, professional mode at the shows in this earlier '77 box release (though I expect the new '77 box to be substantially better performances, based upon the bits I've heard). I find the improvisation more raw, energetic, and dynamic in the 1978 box, and to me that's what makes shows stand out. Also, the song selection is a bit more varied, which I appreciate. While 1978 may be weaker overall as a year (and I haven't heard most of either year), I find these performances to be better than much of what I've heard from '77. Similarly, according to what a listener likes, great boxes (if not great recordings) could be put together of performances from the early 80's or even the Spring/Summer 1985 tour, I believe. One slight drawback of the 1978 box is that the recordings have a bit less depth to the sound, but that goes with the territory of later 2-track soundboards. If you like the '78 sound, definitely get this box while it's still around! I think that they're all (and not just the Red Rocks shows) excellent performances and better ones than the Dave's Picks releases from '78 so far.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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I think all this talk about the scratched discs jinxed me ! I was looking for some things to listen to yesterday and found a box of cds. The first 2 I played both had some really awful skips, technically it was a stall because it would stop playing and then resume shortly after, without missing a beat. I listened to one disc like that, the second one I gave up on. Quite a shame because the damaged discs are very nice recordings of 3.30.83
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Would rather wait til the box set comes out before listening to what might be "the most exciting, inspired 35 minutes of 1978 Grateful Dead you'll hear?" on a side note: I read in Willie's most recent book that he took acid at one of the Fourth of July Picnics and how weird his experience was and all of that...I can't remember if he said what year it was..
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3.25.83 - marks the 1st live performance of "My Brother Esau" a couple other debuts would emerge from the bands touring history during this time in March. "Looks Like Rain" and "Two Souls in Communion" 3.21.72
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I shunned you for yearssomeothertime i said yeah probably overrated i thought today we are together wow. what a show.
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I would love to have been a fly on the wall for that Fourth of July bash. You would have to think someone got dosed that day, the circus was in town.. Cool story, I will have to check it out.
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I am going to wait for this new 78 box to arrive before listening to these specific shows. Thanks Dave.
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love that Lysergic River take my mind, Don't let her mem'ry torture me. Lysergic River don't run dry, You're all I've got, take care of me. I'm drowning in an acid river, Bathing my mem'ried mind in the wetness of its soul. Feeling the amber current flowin' from my mind. And warm an empty heart you left so cold.
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Till your love comes down....no just kidding, that was VH when they were on top of their game. I'll wait for the box set, no need to spoil the virgin listen. Heck, I'm torn about listening to any soundboards, lest they end up released with the Full Norman Treatment someday, and I end up with a not-so-special Dave's Picks. But then there's the little mean dude on the other shoulder going "put it on, you could be dead before this ever goes Full Norman"....and so I've begun getting into some soundboards - only the real hi-fi audio mind you, just because I can't tolerate poor sound quality. It's difficult to turn away from those great sounding shows, especially when it seems unlikely they'll get much better with the Full Norman (like these 2/26, 5/7, 5/8, and 5/9 1977 boards I have). Or this Estimated Shakedown Street I pulled from 11/24/78. I'll tell you what they need, is a little package called Live Shakedown with The Grateful Dead, where they release a double CD with just Shakedown Street, I Need A Miracle, From The Heart Of Me, and Stagger Lee from the Godchaux's last 6 months. Maybe half a dozen versions of each tune....wooo!
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I don't know what's up with this site for the cancer research pull... but it accepts donations then it doesn't.this site truncates the link at times... here's the link https://secure3.4agoodcause.com/curing-kids-cancer/fundraisers/personal… if it gets truncated again.... go to 4agoodcause, look for Team Super Kellen. For those who saw it, I'm pulling a firetruck w/ a team to raise $ and awareness for leukemia research. A child of a family friend has leukemia. Chuck H., who Dave L. mentions at the end of this seaside chat for this box set, also has aggressive leukemia and cancer. The Grateful Dead is the only thing that gets him through his treatments. He needs every positive thought and prayer right now.... Sending cd's and $ is helpful.... anyway.. that's the link... thanks
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You keep referring to the apparatus as stupid but yet it works…not so stupid. You should think of charging the library every time you do their job.
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for the amount of stuff I get from the library they should be charging me! Just in today, the complete Louis Armstrong RCA Collection! I love my library!
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I have also found that if disc "A" doesn't play on player "A", then it probably will play on player "B". Sometimes I struggle with a disc that doesn't want to rip in on my desktop and I try it on my wife's laptop and it works. Always try on a second device. I don't have a lot of problems with scratches in personal stuff, I treat it right and generally it only gets played once when I suck it in, then I put it away safe and sound. Keithfan - on that bonus disc you got, make a copy and play the copy. Put the "official" one away.
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Shoot just give me the top 20 Shakedowns ever done. I would buy the crap out of that!
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:) i take that as a very high compliment. but even Nigel doesn't put his guitars in ziplock bags, like I do to these storage room box sets.I learned from Betty's mistakes, and yes you can get reel sized Ziplock bags that would have mitigated much of the flooding damage. The listening party is nice, but coming though my laptop it's a tad harsh from the stream sound and i don't know if i'll make it to the end. BTW replying to a post stops the stream, so back to Estimated again. Nice, but I'm going to wait for disks from now on.
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6/30/858/28/81 11/24/78 thank you sir may I have another
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I know we just covered this, sorta. Did we reach consensus that 6/30/85 is the best Shakedown? It is my favorite but I have not heard all of them yet. I used to wear out 12/5/79 also. I wrote on the other board about Ventura 87 (which I was in attendance). That was a slow slinky Shakedown. Being on the beach, the bass made the sandy loam pulse. An addendum to that write up, we were standing there having a refreshing smoke when a guy that was probably 70 comes slithering by, smoking this huge pipe. We were grooving, he was grooving. He stopped and we all passed everything around, nice. Never said a word. He wore a shirt that said "I heart drugs." Being in my 20's, it made me feel like I was home. BTW, I was wearing a taper's shirt that had an eagle on it with tape reals in its talons on the front. On the back, again tape reals with a slogan underneath "Death before Dishonor, Drugs before Lunch." I also love the Shakedown from 87 Socal at the stadium, DVD, where they are opening for Dylan. Love some of the looks from Bob and Jerry. Bob is trying to make an adjustment on his rig and it is time to sing. He misses the beginning and looks over to Jer like "Am I in trouble?" Then Jerry flubs a lyric and looks back at Bob and makes a hilarious face. Sorta lets you physically see who Captain Trips was, The Boss! Jer so relaxed, Bob doing his best to please. Love it! Edit: oops reels not reals
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Yep, I have Umphreys Mcgee, Wishbone Ash, Old Crow Medicine Show, Trombone Shorty, and Preservation Hall Jazz band on my desk as I type this, got to rip em and get them back to the library. So yeah, I know how bad those disks can be, but it is a great way to hear new stuff.
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the MOTB stuff is always great. As has been mentioned a few times in the last 6 months. Edit: Oh yeah, have not heard the Egypt one. Heard it mentioned several times here. Is it really that good? Did someone post that was the best part of Egypt?
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Sixtus: Where are we on the 7 headed super brain? This may be the best place to start...or would it be Best Dark Star. My oh my, cannot say that, will start a food fight...
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Good thing I check the links, that 24 bit version, didn't have the Shakedown. Try this. https://archive.org/details/gd1978-09-16.sbd.miller.88314.sbeok.flac16 You really should let it play through to Truckin to get the full effect of the Shakedown at Giza Of course it sounds MUCH better on the officially released CD version with the pop up cover.
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I know somewhere I had a tape with a 22 minute shakedown, opened a 2nd set if I remember right,,, it was great. I had a non head in my car once and that tune was playing and when they came out of jam back into lyrics, he looked at me and said "who's this?". I think it be impossible for me to find, but it was one of the longest ones I ever had.
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1979 New Haven on the first Road Trips -
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Very funky. Jerry and Bobby totally in sync, especially the second half of the jam. Two guitarists plugged into one brain. Edit: After another listen (and viewing), a correction - six musicians, one brain.
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....7.2.89 Sullivan Stadium. No Shakedown, but it's got a FOTD second set opener. How's that for a curveball!.... ....btw, baseball season starts on 4.2. Just a friendly reminder....
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GD89 ain't my highest priority but since i saw no shows in 89 muatm will be attended by me. Date of the meetup itself?
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Yeah Bolo, that Shakedown is without any doubt Funky! Also, as I recall that show has a killer NFA with Pete Townsend!!
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....May is going to blow the doors off! We get a movie, some '76 Orpheum, a whole week of Betty's July '78, and it's my birth month. I actually feel humbled.
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once back in the times of tapes i did create a 45 minute long Shakedown combining several different ones , used to play it at partys when i was a student - as most of us were drunk or otherwise illuminated it felt like going on forever.....
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love this image , reminds me how important Keith was for the band....
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does your library have ILL (inter library loans), with the plano library I can go online and search all the libraries in Amerika. Great for rounding out audio books and finding rare music. These cost me 2.50 in postage to get sent here, but well worth it.
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Anybody have the date yet?
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They usually ship for delivery the 1st week of the next shipping month, which would be May, so probably announced in mid April to presale the non subscription copies.
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Opens the show at McNichols after a Red Rocks rain-out. I don't go for "best," but conten-dahs. This is one. Am I biased because I was tripping my nuts off? Pretty sure!
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Last year the 2nd release shipped 4/30/15. I am expecting a similar release date.
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I'm familiar with shipping times etc. I'm trying to find out WHAT SHOW is Dave's 18. I heard rumor it's from '76 which would be right up my alley. Anyboy know? (to be honest I love 'em all!)
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DL announced in that it will be the show from 7/17/76 on the first two discs, with disc three the 17th encore, NFA, followed by most of the 1st set from 7/16 minus any repeats of the 17th 1st set. The bonus disk will be the second set from the 16th
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Was released with "All The Years Combine: The DVD Collection". Looks and sounds great and the smile on Jerry's face when he open set 2 is worth the price of admission. The previously unreleased songs are: China Cat Sunflower - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View I Know You Rider - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Man Smart, Woman Smarter - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Friend Of The Devil - July 2, 1989, Sullivan Stadium, Foxboro Hey Pocky Way - July 22, 1990, The World Amphitheatre, Tinley Park Shakedown Street - June 22, 1991, Soldier Field, Chicago
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drpryan thanks for your quick response
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How about a '76 box set along the lines of July '78? Granted not all of the tapes can be used and others are damaged but, there has to be enough left in good condition for more releases. A '76 Box Set would be a great place start Seriously? What about more releases? Say 1-2 more per year. And yes I understand the concept of saturation.
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Thanks for the Essen Shakedown, had heard parts of this show but not the Shakedown. Whoa, love being able to see them in action! six musicians, one mind preachin that polyglot babel music. It can be doubly bubbly indeed.
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Conten-dahs, i like it. Will track that one down. I have always been a touch partial to Shakedowns. Love so many genres but really am a groove/funk freak at heart.
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I am almost certain we have ILL, just have not explored it yet. Will look into it. How can you absorb so much stuff?
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I may just breakout that road trips shakedown tonight! Only listened too it twice I think...cant wait. I am slowly making it thru my third trip around the 30 trips. About halfway, lots a really fine stuff!
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wow, seems like an odd pick to me?? Sullivan Stadium (along with Highgate VT) was probably one of the worst dead shows I went too. Seems like an odd choice. I had a lot of fun at both shows but thought the band did not have a good nite at either. Plus, Sullivan Stadium show was on a VERY hot and humid day. A scorcher. However, will definitely see MUAM since Sullivan Stadium is about 10 minutes from my house (and was too back in 87 ...though I lived in different town then). Looking forward to 78 box. Though I am on fence on buying whole box ... may just get the one show option. I had a big ask with the Mrs to get 30 Trips. I know this sounds crazy but I am getting to the point where I have so many Dead CD's I am getting to point where maybe I should start to pass on new releases unless they are a must have. Some releases I have barely listened too. I love the Dead but at times I get burned out and need to listen to talk radio or some other bands. I will say, 78 is an underrated year. DP 18 is amongst my all time fav and the 78 DaP that came out last yr from Nashville (?) were both top shelf. Maybe I just convinced myself to go for the full box? Happy Easter peace
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Thanks for the input on the Pig box. I got to thinking, I would rather have a Pig Loaded Grateful Dead release. It's like asking for just a Bob or Jerry box in the context of the Grateful Dead, doesn't really make much sense. I vote for Pig influenced show such as 8/14/71 and 8/15/71, that were returned as part of the house boat stash. I just returned from a two day camping trip up to Albuquerque, NM and purposely left my Ipod at home. It was great to just listen to nature and the kids have fun. @ Takimoto- I don't buy every release. In my book I have all I need, 30 Trips and E72. The 30 Trips gave me what I wanted which was a release from every year and E72-only the greatest GD tour (IMHO). I get what you are saying about burnout and not listening to every release you own. For me it's Winterland '77. I have never listened to it the whole way through. Maybe this June I will make the effort. I got to thinking what is everyone's go to year or show. The one that gets the most rotation or the one that you play whilst you are trying to figure our what to put on? According to my itunes counter it is a tie between the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack and 7/31/1974. But the 11/10/1967 show is creeping up there. Have a great Easter everyone!!
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This week had all three components in it.Date of Spring Equinox 3.20/21 Date of first Full Moon after Spring Equinox 3.23 First Sunday following Full Moon 3.27 THATS EASTER SUNDAY this is the formula to determine Easter. As you know its always on a different day sometimes in March, others in April. Its history is that of a pagan lunar holiday. Early Christians adapted the date and feast. Helped out to have the same holidays in the recruitment dept dig? Whatever You DO Enjoy please!
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