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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • MinasMorgul
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    Ice cream cone kid, I have to disagree about David Lee Roth - the man can't sing anymore. He no longer seems to have the ability to carry a tune in concert. The last show I saw was embarrassing - they seem to know there is a problem. He gets up there, huffing and puffing, and blurts out the lyrics in this choppy, tiresome monotone with no rhythm or melody whatsoever. The rest of the band sounds great, and it's those backing vocals that keep the shows from being a complete train wreck. I was so disappointed, and I'm not alone. I gave him a few chances since they're reunion, but to no avail - he wasn't just having "off" nights. Here are the reviews from ticketmaster's site, in order, over the course of several shows. Everyone gave them a 1 out of 5, and everyone cited Deteriorated Dave as the weak link. Really, don't waste your money. It's a shame, these guys used to be great, but it really demonstrates what an anomaly Dave was. 1 / 5 van halen sucked Hollywood Bowl - Hollywood, CA - Fri, Oct 2, 2015 eddie superb everyone else was tired and uninspired i've seen van halen, yes, steely dan and toto in the last five months i'm a 58 year old gtr playing 40 year member of LA musicians union TOTO was far and away the best of the four oh well 1 / 5 HORRIBLE! Disappointed big time! Hollywood Bowl - Hollywood, CA - Fri, Oct 2, 2015Posted 10/05/2015by TagBert David Roth ruined the show. He sounded awful-talked through the lyrics instead of singing. He made up/replaced words in songs and his voice is gone! He made the concert all about him, and not the music. If it were not for the band, and back up singing, you would not have recognized any of the songs. Was soooo disappointed. Favorite moment: When it was over. 1 / 5 Van Halen Ak-Chin Pavilion - Phoenix, AZ - Mon, Sep 28, 2015Posted 10/01/2015by WLDHRTBKR Band sounded great, but Dave was pathetic!!! Would have been a much better show if Van Halen had opened up for Kenny Wayne Sheppard....now there's some talent!! 1 / 5 DLR was so far off, it made it unbearable. Gexa Energy Pavilion - Dallas, TX - Wed, Sep 23, 2015Posted 09/27/2015by HijoDelSol1 If you want to hear all your favorite Van Halen songs, I would suggest loading up your MP3 player and hitting play. David Lee Roth was so far off from the rest of the band that it painful. The rest of the band sounded great, would have rather had them run in a tribute band singer then to listen to that. Favorite moment: Guitar Solo 1 / 5 Diamond Dave is Done Oak Mountain Amphitheater - Pelham, AL - 09/17/2015Posted 09/23/2015by LeeTB I cringed the whole way through the Van Halen show. Seriously, if you know anything about vocals, music, singing in key, singing at all, you would have no other choice but to agree that David Lee Roth is done. Sure, he still can entertain the crowd with his antics, but when you don't sing 80% of the lyrics, and the lyrics you do sing are our of key, just hang it up. If they had just advertised it as an instrumental show, featuring the rest of the band, it would have been 100% better. Don't be fooled. Unless you're just going to see Eddie, or the Kenny Wayne Shepherd band is opening, you WILL be disappointed. Favorite moment: Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band set - great gig!!!! Saved the night - seeing Eddie for the 2nd time live. 1 / 5 Kenny Wayne OK but VH sucked. Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY - Sun, Sep 6, 2015Posted 09/22/2015by PMW1960 Kenny Wayne Shepard was sounding great but only played 35 minutes. WTF, he could have played an hour or so. VH was terrible. The band sounded OK but the vocals and backup singing was terrible. The volume on the vocals was turned down so it was hard to hear David but that was probably a good thing. Favorite moment: The end. Opening act(s): KWS band. Good but way to short. 1 / 5 DLR stole my money Oak Mountain Amphitheatre - Birmingham, AL - Thu, Sep 17, 2015 Posted 09/21/2015by jbix613 David lee Roth needs to quit today! He talked thru most lyrics. When he did try he couldn't hit the high notes at all. He even tried to do 15 minutes of terrible stand up.This is the first concert I ever left early and I wasn't alone, I was joined with hundreds. 1 / 5 Van Halen / David Lee Roth MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre at the FL State Fairgrounds - Tampa, FL - Sun, Sep 13, 2015Posted 09/16/2015by notoriousscottyb I've been to see other older bands with not much expectations of a great show . I was not disappointed. That being said ... As you would think it was mostly the Dave show. His voice, key and timing are way off. It would seem as though they didn't rehearse. I really expected more from a Van Halen Show. Eddie Is usually full of energy and excited to please the crowd but not this show. I'm extremely sorry I spend the eighty bucks per ticket. It was a twenty dollar show at best. I was NOT alone walking out at ten thirty. I couldn't withstand any more of the abuse of Van Halen music. Favorite moment: Leaving early..Priceless 1 / 5 Very Disapointed PNC - Charlotte, NC - 09/11/2015Posted 09/15/2015by ChrisDaddy This was the fourth time I have seen Van Halen in my lifetime, and I realize they have gotten older as I have. I have adjusted my expectations accordingly. Eddie and family were spot on, but DLR was all over the place. I know you get some variation with live music, but he was constantly off on the lyrics, out of sync wih the band, and did a lot of just plain odd movements on stage. It sounded terrible and he was difficult to watch. As much as I love Van Halen, DLR is done..... Favorite moment: Eddie's solo 1 / 5 See Van Halen in a corner Bar SOON !!!! PNC Music Pavilion - Charlotte, NC - Fri, Sep 11, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Furiousnight The worst Van Halen show I have ever been too. And I have been to at least 15 of Van Halen shows. Davids voice is gone. He acted to crazy and talked to much. He even stopped the middle of songs and talked. Does David have dementia. I think Wolfgang has a better voice then David. Favorite moment: Eddies guitar solo 1 / 5 VAN HALEN PNC Music Pavilion - Charlotte, NC - Fri, Sep 11, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Anonymous I HAVE BEEN A VAN HALEN FAN SINCE 1977, SEEN THEM MANY TIMES . LOVE D THEM WITH DAVE AND SAMMY. THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORST SHOWS I'VE EVER SEEN. DIAMOND DAVE CAN NOT SING , COULD NOT SING. A ENTIRE SONG, NOT THAT I WANTED TO HEAR THAT VOICE .MAYBE SHOULD TRY OUT FOR DANCING WITH THE HAS BEENS. Favorite moment: WHEN I LEFT HALF WAY THREW SHOW 1 / 5 Tour experience is a waste! Walnut Creek Amphitheatre - Raleigh, NC - Wed, Sep 9, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Skieder We got to the sound check about 15 minutes after the time listed in the email. The check-in took long and our "escort" (a young girl) took forever to greet us at the gate. It wasn't until I questioned the check-in person how long the sound check lasted that they had a sense of urgency about actually letting us in. We had to walk all the way around the park (5 minutes at least) and got to the stage just as the band finished up. There was no exception made at all. We were not compensated whatsoever. After the sound check ended, a person who said she was in charge of the group told us where to hang out and what was available (drinks, food and t-shirt stand). We sat around for nearly 3 hours because we weren't allowed to leave the park, waiting for the opening act. For the amount of money I paid they could have done a little more. I will never purchase this product again...COMPLETE WASTE of MONEY! Favorite moment: Good seats 1 / 5 Total Disappointment Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY - Sun, Sep 6, 2015Posted 09/10/2015by EMAS My husband had wanted to see Van Halen for years. He was looking very forward to this show, particularly at Bethel Woods, which is an awesome venue. This show was a complete disappointment. The opener, Kenny Wayne Shepard, was good. When VH took the stage the crowd was excited but then it ended. David Lee Roth really can't sing any longer. He was out of sync with the band, off key, off pitch - overall not good. The band didn't seem together either. The sound was too loud, the guitar overrode everything else, they just didn't seem like a professional band. We have seen bar bands that were better. It sounded like bad karaoke. When we decided to leave early - we have never left a concert early ever before - many others were streaming out as well. All were saying the same thing. This was painful! Favorite moment: The decision to leave the concert.
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    3.28.69 - Student Center, Modesto Jr. College 7.7.69 - PIGPEN !!!!! I say please Mamma turn on your light.. "Some of your love some of your light... "That's All you folks need now, just a little light, thats all you folks need, a little more love, yes you do, I ask my baby let it shine on me...
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    pig was a biker first, then a singer and then a harp player then an organist, oh wait, but foremost he was a man, who liked sex, good thing, without it, no human race. David lee was a promoter, a rocker, a singer and a front man, who liked sex, good thing.... Alvin lee was a rocker, a guitarist and a great guy, way underappreciated and his contributions to ten years after will never be equaled, no one was a fast as him except maybe darma buck who is the lead guitarist for blue oyster cult, now that is one fast fingering. Most girls I know like fast fingering. Shake your money maker.
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    9/19/70-I don't know about the Lovelight, but its got an incredible Dark Star on it. Horses for courses. Its music like that that has always made me ignore the advice of people like that angry jackstraw bloke, to stop listening to The Dead.
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    I agree, that Lovelight played on 5/24/72 is one of my favourite versions. At the 12 minute mark, it doesn't overstay its welcome, either. I think there was a tendency towards excess in rock music around that time. If anyone had any particular talent, they seemed to overdo do it. Pigpen was a great vocalist-he wasn't a poet. Ginger Baker was a great drummer with Cream...but his 16 minute+ solo on The Wheels of Fire version of Toad is very hard going. There was a great pop/rock band in England in the early 1970s called T.Rex-I don't know if they were well known in America. Anyway, they made great singles. But live they were a disaster. I saw them in 1972, and they played long versions of their songs, totally destroying the impact they could have had if they had been a bit more concise.Sometimes, of course, a bands strength lay in its ability to jam. On most of their songs, this applies to The Dead. A 15 minute version of Dark Star from 1971 always seems too short to me. They could be concise to good effect, too, though. I have just finished listening to the 7/5/78 show from the box set. The encore of Promised land is as good a version of a Chuck Berry song as I think I have ever heard. Its only 4 mins 13 secs long, but nothing more needs to be said.
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    Go see VH if they tour again. Last September when I saw them they were great.For anyone who is a so-so fan or is not familiar, go if you get the chance. They are getting older, but toured last year. Eddie is an amazing guitarist, you need to witness it live. Dave is the ultimate show man. The whole band rocks. Also, look up on YouTube Van Halen "Live At Largo", another good show.
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    and all the raps he brings with him! maybe we could get a release of, i think it's 9/19/70, i could be wrong about that, but it's a particularly hot show where they storm through lovelight (as if they ever did a version that era where they didn't), and where the rap gets to the point where bobby steps up to the mic to inquire: "Pigpen, did you just say fuck?" if not that show, i hear the ones from the ARK in Boston in 4/21-23/69 are pretty good - ahem, uh dave, next box set, sure, why not? Thanks. I've also heard done tell from a few of the folks that the NYE show from '69, also in beantown, is quite bad-ass, with one hell of an Alligator jam to it's name. everyone, well except for that one guy (who is entitled to his opinion, and the right to express it freely), would be quite happy with many more pig heavy releases.
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    Nice icecrmcnkd....
    ....now THAT video brings me back. Halen put on a fantastic show....saw them once. Alas, not with Roth. 5150 Tour....that, alas again, was during my transition to the Dead. Metal/Hard Rock took a back seat for a decade or so.....
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    Your VH introduction: https://youtu.be/frwlZswvS5I Watch the whole thing. It's a 3-day weekend, you've got the time.
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    I missed the Van Halen days, other than Jump as a basketball warm-up.. (that was at some tournament, at home of course we ran out to Jesus Christ Superstar intro > Rock You Like A Hurricane orchestral version > Still Fly by the Big Tymers. Huh..no wonder I like the Dead's incongruent weirdness..) Anyways, don't know much Van Halen, but in on the Blondie! Only know the hits I suppose, but my favorite is Heart of Glass. But One Way or Another, Rapture, Call Me, Atomic...all great. Love that Rapture video. Sometimes I just go around downtown like that dude. Then I heard boom from the amplifiers.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Those pagans knew how to cook up some holiday's.. Thanks for the history lesson. D.Davis, great BCT nugget in your blog.. Brent was wasted, so what. They play that show from time to time on SiriusXM. Its got its moments. Can't believe you were living walking distance to the BCT.
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Gary - hope you enjoy that '79 one all over again! Another released one that I think is killer is the Hartford '90 TOO box. Very powerful start to the show and the energy sets the tone for much of the first set. Regretfully I had to pass on the 30 trips but that '79 Dancin>Franklins was also released on that 1st road trips and I think its funky synth awesome... totally shows what Brent brought to the table.
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Have had 90too for 6+ months and havent opened it yet. I am so ready...Did the dancin franklins tonight, funky
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Agree with my fellow Washingtonian Stoltzfus, 8.28.81 - Long Beach, best Shakedown.
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....happened to me earlier today. Broke out Queen's Sheer Heart Attack and Metallica's Ride The Lightning....both classics....
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Interesting topic...For me, I never tire of 1972. Coincidentally, It's also the year I have the most recordings/partial shows of (looks like 37). However, I am especially smitten with the 30 Trips Winterland Tax Day 1970 show. This and Harpur College(Dick's Picks Vol 8) a few weeks later, are in my estimation, amongst their best ever performances(the Winterland Dancin' is incredible), and I'd love to hear a Dave's Picks, or a box from this part of 1970. Looking forward to hearing the '78 box. Say, isn't it kinda early in the year for the annual Boxset to appear? 15,000 copies also seems a tad high, so I don't expect it to sell out quickly(no resale market)...will make great Xmas present too. Has anyone else tried to access a lyric on the "Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics by David Dodd" an got an error page. Sad if this excellent resource has been lost in the ether.
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Underrated because of it's uneven performances. 5/10-11/78 is one of my least-listened-to releases. It's not BAD, it's just got nothing that jumps out at me. 4/24/78 is another that I don't pick up very often (although TMNS and Scarlet-Fire are top-notch on that one). Really love 2/3-5/78, 4/22/78, 5/14/78, and 12/31/78. And, of course, this box promises to get a lot of play. 7/7-8/78 have long been favorites, and this sample from 7/1 has me very excited. Regarding the best Shakedown, the one on RT 1.1 always jumped out at me; a GREAT performance in an otherwise lackluster release.
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the Shakedown from Road Trips 4.4 (4/6/82) has the most listens in my google play account. It's pretty funky..
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I don't think I've been this happy in a long time. Thanks Dead.net! :-)P.S. I visited Red Rocks last week and definitely felt the magic there. Wow!!
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I don't know if I do absorb so much stuff. I just listen to a lot of stuff, not a lot of most, but some of all. I can sit at the computer and drop 30 different things in the playlist that have nothing to do with each other. I can be listening to Al Jolson's "Anniversary Song", swing over to Ice-T's "Mind over Matter", and many other non connected songs. Just got in (used from amazon) "The Many Faces of The Detergents", because I wanted to hear "Double-O-7" and I only have it in a 45. Bonus - Had a song (instrumental) called "The Blue Kangaroo" on it. I have this in a 45 also, hadn't thought of it in 45 years, but when it played I was like "wow". Sometimes when I'm working in the yard or garage I'll put on everything from an artist and hit shuffle. Hell I got albums of French "yeye" (60's French pop that I play and I don't speak French! (but I did recognize Noir C'est Noir) Back in the LP days when someone was over I pull out an album and say "you gotta hear this", that song was barely over and I'd be pulling another album out for something else they had to hear. When they left there be 30 albums out. A lot of times I don't even finish a song when my brain makes a connection to some other song to play. I don't know I can't explain it. I ALWAYS have a song playing in my head, ALWAYS! Also while listening to almost non-stop songs, I'm always listening to an audio book. When doing neither I'm generally watching old movies on TCM. In any event, check out your ILL, sometimes I search the ILL just for "box set" or "collection" or "greatest hits". I figure if I'm gonna pay a 2.50 fee, I might as well get as much as I can. Got a great Duke Ellington collection that way, 24 cd's. Have a bunch of Odetta coming in, based on talks in this forum. Somebody else mentioned Stan Kenton, found a half-dozen of his albums available. So much music, so little time. What a great time to live in if varied music is your thing. I remember when I was young I hit a department store (like Bradlees or Grants or Two Guys) and there be only two long bins of choices, then Sam Goody's came along and I was like wow, then I found Sam Goody's could ORDER albums for you, double wow. Then Amazon,,,,, Heaven! Then the library and ILL, free heaven! If any interest in doing some trading PM me.
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away by 10/12/84. Heard the Stranger last evening...shazam! 8484848484848484848484 please dave big box i predict will be GREEK BOX that would be a nice box
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Yup. Best modern day Stranger, Cold Rain and Dew in the same show. TMNS also, but debatable. Many may disagree. None who were there will.
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Yup. Best modern day Stranger, Cold Rain and Dew in the same show. TMNS also, but debatable. Many may disagree. None who were there will.
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Yup. Best modern day Stranger, Cold Rain and Dew in the same show. TMNS also, but debatable. Many may disagree. None who were there will.
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I like 6/30/85, Dead Set, and 11/24/78 versions of Shakedown best, but I haven't heard too many - wish there more released from the Keith Godchaux era, because while Egypt '78 is good, it's the only official one with him on it. I saw a post about someone only going to buy the Red rocks show, not the whole box - now THAT is some discipline! I approached Europe 72 that way, and before I knew it I had them all. Speaking of Europe 72, I listened to most of 4/7, the starter show today. Greatest Story is rockin'. So is China Cat, Truckin' TOO, and there's a really cool Wharf Rat. Ramblin Rose & Sugar Mags excellent - This show doesn't get talked about much, but it's great!
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This has been bothering me for a while and just curious if anyone has any input. When people bring up the amount of "limited" edition numbers (such as the 15,000 in this case of the 78 Box) and their ooncerns it just makes me shake my head sometimes. For example the Fare Thee Well Tour you had hundreads of thousands of people willing to shell out money for tickets to the show, plane tickets, Hotel reservations, rental cars, food, and all the other extras which runs into at least a thousand or more dollars, that these things don't sell out faster. To me the music is a no brainer you have that for the rest of your life. It also amazes me when I get talking to someone about the band because of a shirt or hat the other party is wearing and they show all this enthusiam and I ask a simple question like "what do you think of the Daves Pick series and they say what's that?? I scratch my head. This has happened not once or twice but a lot of times. Sorry for my little bitch session....I just apreciate how a lot of you are well versed and really dive into the releases that happen here and that we are very lucky to have no matter what year it is from.
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A lot of people I talked to who were at Fare Thee Well seemed like they wanted to be there so they could say they went and not so they could go. Those were the same people that complained about the Dead and co. shows because "the band said that was it, and I spent all this money to go now I wasn't at the last show (spoiled sobbing)." Unfortunately many still go just for the party and the bragging right, not the music.
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Kevin, you yourself are part of a limited edition. We are incurably fanatical about this band, but we are limited in number. There are many, many more who enjoy the music but are not so interested as to visit this site on a near-daily basis. Of course, if you don't come here, you don't buy most of the music releases because they are only available through this site. In fact, if you don't visit this site, the chances are you do not know of the existence of the Dave's Picks series etc. Then again, if you are not fanatical then you would probably have little interest in multiple releases of live performances from 20-50 years ago. Rhino are fully aware of the situation, which is why when a real gem gets released (Sunshine daydream, Wake up to find out, the forthcoming Red Rocks etc.) they also put these out to retail - Amazon and the like - because these releases are likely to be of interest to the more casual Dead fan and they will sell more copies. Rhino also know very well how many units will sell, which is why they only produce a certain number. Putting things like "Limited edition" in big letters at the top of the page means everyone is somewhat panicked into buying quickly, but they are targetting the same limited number of die-hards that you and I are part of. I suspect that our numbers are always lower than the numbers produced and it then takes awhile to sell the rest of the production run. Reseller/scalper interest will also have an effect on how quickly a limited edition sells out.
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Dire hit it right on the head, to large numbers it's only the image of the scene. The people who talk thru whole shows, the guy who's past out thru the whole show from heavy drinking all day (only to wake up to yell "Jerry" during the quietest part of a song) But this is really a part of modern life (maybe it's always been that way) to be seen doing "hip" or "cool" things. (is only hip or cool because we like it?) Then again, most people don't buy music in bulk, period. When at other peoples house check and see how much they have. Most don't have much. Sometimes I think books are even lower on the have side. My wife is a reader and I can tell you we have BOOKS! Greatest invention for those people "kindle". Now she has tons of books she carries with her. For me it was the invention of MP3, the only proof of a god I know of :-) Fortunately with the advent of internet it's easy to find people who share an interest (whatever it may be). I'm lucky that I have several people in my life who have a passion for music (not all deadheads, but like a lot of music), but I push to find these people and seek to find what music moves people. I'm always singing and talking in song to flesh out where people stand. My neighbor behind me (who I don't have a lot in common with) would talk 50's groups and early 60's groups all the time. He wouldn't know a pink Floyd song, but he'd know a coasters song. Sorry rambling again,, but Dire you pulled the perfect line out, it's 1 in 10,000....
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GFar it appears I am a little late to this party but it seems our Super-Brain has reared it's mighty head in some form on these Shakedowns. I'm not so familiar with some of the early/mid-80's Shakedowns being offered but they sound like they pack the requisite punch. For a great Keith-flavored Shakedown, I always enjoyed these two from late '78. The first, Jerry has laryngitis, but it is a pretty sweet Shakedown out of Estimated - 11/24/78. Keith is prominent: https://archive.org/details/gd1978-11-24.pre-fm.miller.87642.sbeok.flac… This second one is pretty super-funky with Jerry making some mad runs in the jam at the end, again Keith quite prominent, 11/20/78: https://archive.org/details/gd1978-11-20.sbd.miller.95244.sbeok.flac16 Rainy Monday in Boston, looking forward to some spring-like weather around here sooon. Sixtus
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Surprised no mention of 11.20.78 - Cleveland Music Hall - what a sequence - 5 stars 12.30.78 - Pauley Pavilion, UCLA - Killer set, killer show from near the end of era. One of the finest shows before a New Years gig Nearly a year later, a return to Pauley Pavilion at UCLA would bring another killer set, killer show - 11.25.79 - Lots of primo stuff here along with a 2nd set opener "Shakedown Street -> Bertha", dont miss this one A week and half later, far from the sunshine of LA, "Shakedown Street" is performed for the faithful - 12.5.79 - Uptown Theatre - Chicago, IL. One of the finest from the era
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Yes, 11/20 sounds pretty good, although I don't have a great copy of it. I would listen to more versions if I had more great sounding copies. As it stands, 11/24 out of Estimated is the best sounding one I have. My exact point though - it would be awesome if they released more shows with Shakedown from the Godchaux era. I doubt very much they would ever do something like, but it would be cool to have (i.e. multiple live versions of the same song on one CD). As it stands, we only have 1 Shakedown Street, 1 From the Heart of Me, and 3 Stagger Lee / I Need A Miracle. As they just released DaP 15 and July '78 box is on the horizon, I doubt we'll hear much new '78 for quite some time. So how about some Jan / Feb '79 for DaP 20........
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Is everybody else getting charged for this right when they order? In the past I remember them charging me when it shipped. I now have a charge that isn't just pending, but went through awhile back on my card. Is this the new way they're doing these pre-orders?
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Kevin, I've wondered the same thing about that disparity. I do not disagree with direwulf and Dennis - but I do think there is a more positive reason for many people who go to shows like FTW, but don't come to this site, know about archival releases, etc: I suspect for many it's a matter of choosing direct experience over recordings. One could even say it's more positive - I wonder about my collecting mania when it comes to these releases. I like having the release for years to come, makes sense to me. But, to others that may seem misguided, since it also limits my budget for live concerts in the here and now. I'd rather hear the 1978 band or the 1981 band over the 2015 band - but I totally understand the opposite view - why listen to old recordings when you can go to a show? I've had people express amazement that I would spend 100 bucks on a box set, but they'll drop that amount on drinks and apps at a pub without blinking - which to me feels like burning money. It's all good...
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Match that up against anything you have ever heard and tell me which reins supreme. And just for sharing...where the heck is 1980 Alaska; High Auditorium? I write Dave all the time and he never responds. Might be the absolute tightest you hear of the boys - Black Peter, Stella, Estimated and so on! For the novelty could we please get the '83 Jamaica show? I heard it wasn't so great (430AM-7AM on an airplane strip), but I would like to own it. '78 is quietly better to me than '77 because they condense to smaller venues. Give me '78, '80, '82 from post 1975. Puff
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can`t remember when for me was the last time to drink down a hundred bucks - i count in CDs and books , so that means an average of 4-6 CDs or 3 - 5 hardcover books. OOps i forgot , i`m a smoker still and a pack of cigs cost an average of 5 bucks here....well , i`d do both - go to shows of Bobby and Phil and collect the old stuff but i can`t here in Austria....
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i`m still thankful - Dennis sent me a Furthur show via Dropbox - for some new technical stuff and yet frustrated cause there are some new medias i have problems to get by with and - what counts more - haven`t got the time to digitalize my physical collection of thousands of CDs and LPs. I know i`ll have to soon - otherwise i risk that in the future a good portion of the discs has scars et c.
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Yep, sad to say everyone is getting charged when they order rather than at shipping time. I contacted customer service about this and they replied: "Due to the various payment issues with the Fare Thee Well box set, the company has decided to capture the funds of the pre-orders the morning after they are placed. We had quite a few issues where the item was shipped, but the funds were not captured due to expired authorizations, insufficient funds, etc." This raises a number of issues, but I didn't consider it reasonable to charge for expensive items such as this weeks before the item is released, so I contacted Dr. Rhino on the matter and although he didn't have a lot to say, he did say this: "There may be exceptions to this policy, for certain future releases. We will also review our communications, regarding the implementation of this policy." So there you have it. Typically we will now be charged when we place a (pre)order rather than at shipping time.
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Saw the Experience Hendrix 2016 show last Friday at Casino Ballroom in Hampton Beach NH. Always a good show. Featured guitarists: Dweezil Zappa, Quinn Sullivan, Eric Johnson, Zakk Wylde, Jonny Lang, Mato Nanji, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Buddy Guy. If they do a summer tour - check it out... Quinn Sullivan is a 16 year old kid from New Bedford MA, very impressed with his skills at that age. Zakk was Wylde.
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attended and remember being underwhelmed...it was first show since my first show 7/18/82. listening to it today on archive. sounds better than I recall (33 years later)
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I see my friends do it all the time, but when it comes to spending on money with other stuff, HAHA you better not ask them At the local bar I go to quite often, yesterday a regular noticed my Grateful Dead shirt while he was smoking and said "the Grateful Dead !" I smiled and said "you like the tee huh ?" http://www.gdao.org/items/show/283747 He quickly leaned down to lift his jeans above ankle to show he has a killer tattoo with skeleton wearing top hat smoking cigar. Just looking at his tattoo I could tell he was a true fan, but I would certainly bet money he has no idea of the new releases, Daves Picks and other box sets. Definetely not the first person I have encountered at this bar that is a fan of GD, but does not really keep tabs on them lately
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When you mentioned this show and a Charlie miller soundboard I had to check my copy and see if it was up to snuff,,, it was. Though all the talk is Shakedown I turned to It Must Have Been the Roses. Has this song gotten much talk? I love this song, the feeling of nostalgic melancholy really grabs hold and I like older Jerry voice on it, it's softer and has more "looking back" in it. I have wondered over the years,,, is Annie dead? Did she lay down from being overworked and past? I feel the people are not moneyed since glass is missing from the window. Time has certainly passed since the ribbons have faded. And what do you think she told him? (if I tell another what your own lips told to me) Is it just "I love you"? Great song.
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Do the GD almost always follow a "sad" song with a "happy" song?
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In my not too knowledgable opinion, I don't consider any GD songs sad. The slow songs, ballads perhaps, always strike me as reflective. Like Days Between for instance- a song that is full of wisdom and imagery. It doesn't seem like a "sad" song- more like a wise song. My interpretation is do the GD often follow a slow song with a faster paced song- and yes they do. Suppose it's part of the ebb and flow that make the concerts such a great experience.
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A few months ago I had a great moment. My son, 26 years old with a good musical ear, but not a Dead Head, heard a Shakedown I had from somewhere. He came running into my room and said "Where has this been my whole life"! All I could do was smile, smile, smile! Rock on
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Purple - that's hilarious - I do that to (counting in CDs, books, etc). Of course, now that I have a kid I also count in things like tuition savings, ha. But in my head, it will also be in units of music and reading. As for spending 100 bucks in a pub, oh it's easy. Buy a few drinks for friends, round of apps... doesn't take long (but okay, maybe 50 bucks!). My wife's aunt had an extra ticket to see Kansas the other night at a wonderful old theater here in western Mass (they were actually fantastic - some super tight prog-rock, I enjoyed the hell out of it). Since I didn't pay for my ticket, I bought one drink for myself, and a total of three glasses of wine for the folks who gave me the ticket. That cost me 36 bucks! when you count the tips (this was a fundraiser but still). ...
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Hey Puffbecker - good call on the Alaska box. I've been whining about that for years, bring on "The Grateful Dead in the Land of the Midnight Sun." I love that run. And Deadegad's September '79 box too! :)
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The Beer tastes have grown and changed over the years . I think the possible scenario is they had plenty of production time for everything from (from encrypting the cds to printing up the books and/or programs)a. The orders start coming in and sales look pretty good. Then it's learned San Jose'(?) isn't going to be included and then to add insult to injury concerts with BW,BK,MH and John Mayer are announced. In order to say "Fare Thee Well"" you have to go somewhere! I think Rhino jumped the gun on this one and started production of the components before everything was known and well thought out.
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Interesting take on Must Have Been the Roses; in fact I had never given it very much thought but your idea of death is an interesting one and it seems you're not the first to think this. A brief search brought this up on a like-minded board: http://gratefuldead.tribe.net/thread/2a059d9a-2516-4f22-9dbc-52d39ef5a8… And in terms of playing slower songs followed by more upbeat songs, as mentioned by Zuck, this was a pretty conscious decision by the band and would help with those peaks and valleys they led us All through. Makes for some sweet juxtapositions and tugging at your soul. I almost always find, too, that these 'slower songs', when played well, will crescendo into something nearly explosive - a power that only the GD could summon regularly. Sixtus
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The Beer tastes have grown and changed over the years, but it's still fun to have one every now and then I think the possible scenario is they had plenty of production time for everything (from encrypting the cds to printing up the books and/or programs). The orders start coming in and sales look pretty good. Then it's learned San Jose'(?) isn't going to be included and then to add insult to injury concerts with BW,BK,MH and John Mayer are announced. In order to say "Fare Thee Well"" you have to go somewhere! I think Rhino jumped the gun on this one and started production of the components before everything was known and well thought out. I think it's more than likely they'll have box a sets for some time to come...
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I gotta agree with Mr stulzfus. A bad Shakedown is hard to find. I listened to 4 Shakedowns this morning with my coffee, (6/30/85, Egypt, 8/13/79, 3/30/87) and every one of them sounded fantastic. Trying to pick one over the other would have been splitting a very fine hair.
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Living where I do, I have the opportunity to entertain a lot. Usually interesting people but not necessarily heads.. I get the what do you see in the GD question a lot. Most people just don't get it and when you do put it on, they talk over it anyway.. so I don't give it much attention these days, but if someone asks me to put it on, I will and if I'm in the mood I will put it on just because I want to. So one of my buddies came to me about a month ago and said, "Hey.. they played this GD song on the radio on my way home from work that I really liked. It sounded a bit disco." I replied Shakedown Street and got a YES, that's the song answer. For some reason that song does have a crossover appeal, even people that despise disco like it and refer to it as having a disco beat. I will call that the hbob factor. Even the Dukes of September covered it. Oh, I agree with the others, its hard to find a bad shakedown. So long as Jerry keeps his vocals together, it always has the potential to be a smoker.
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