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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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May 31, 2016 - 4:20am

#1611

daverock

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soul

Those single cd Stax remasters that came out about 2011 are worth getting, too. I was listening to Be Altitude:Respect Yourself by The Staples and Born Under A Bad Sign by Albert King last night. Amazing songs, music and sound.
May 31, 2016 - 4:13am

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daverock

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dead set list diversity

I can remember seeing the Dead play three consecutive nights in London in 1990, and, as you will know, they didn't play a single song twice. So I decided to see a few other bands several times in succession the following year it see if others did this. Big mistake. One was the great spacerock band Hawkwind. Amazing-but exactly the same EVERY night. I think the Deads approach to playing live may have filtered through to other band though. I can remember seeing The Stones twice in summer 1982-and they played the same set-except for one song, on both occasions. In 2004 I saw them twice, and they did change the set lists quite a bit. They still played many of the same songs at both shows-but they did vary it bit. I wondered if that was due to their knowledge of The Dead. Keith Richards has put the Dead down in the press-so they are aware of what they did.
May 31, 2016 - 2:55am

#1613

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

A Vote for Pig

Just adding my support for the late, great Ron McKernan. Sure, he could be profane, uncouth, even disrespectful at times. Where is that rap where he uses the c-word and threatens murder? Might be Great Highway '70. In any case, the man is long dead and he brought biker cred to a band that needed it. Hopefully, his stage persona was a little more mean than his actual self. By all accounts that was true. I'm wearing my "Pigpen Says It's OK" t-shirt today in honor -- under my work shirt, incognito.
May 31, 2016 - 1:11am

#1614

guit30

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Potpouri

Good Day Folk, Hope you had a great Memorial Day Weekend. I am listening to a concert that I went to in 1973 at the Spectrum in Philly -on the internet archive-,It is a BettyBoard too. They are doing a great version of China Cat/I know you rider. Weir is playing lead guitar too, awesome. Today, I was in an analog mood, I have a cassette version of "One from The Vault", I have a real nice Onkyo Cassette Deck. I can't believe how good it sounded. It is 20 years old, I bought it the day Jerry died. Love the "Help on the way/Slipnot/Franklins Tower On There". I have played it a lot too. Wow, the Dead just went into an awesome version of Big River, Billy is playing the skins great. 73 was a great year. I used to have some trader tapes,I don't know what happened to them. The Dead just went into a great version of "Stella Blue". I love the first disc of the new show, It has a lot of my favorite songs on it.. Well, everyone, have a Grate Day. Jim
May 30, 2016 - 9:55pm

#1615

mhammond12

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Dead Set List Diversity

I cut my teeth on Dead shows starting in 1972 and thought set list diversity and unpredictable twists and turns were the norm for a concert. Then I saw Return To Forever for the second time in a one year span and they played the exact same show. Literally note for note. Even what I had thought were spontaneous moments such as a joyful trading of licks and what looked like spur of the moment mini cutting sessions were repeated note for note, even down to their god damn facial expressions. I was in a state of shock. That's when I knew "There is nothing like a Grateful Dead concert." There just isn't.
May 30, 2016 - 9:34pm

#1616

JimInMD

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Garcia / Townshend

I must have read the same account. It probably was the start of what seemed to be a friendship between Townshend and Garcia that is probably as much responsible for the E81 tour as anything else. There's a part b to the story that ends with I think Garcia, Weir and Townshend partying or hanging out till the sun came up and conversations that went pretty deep. At least I think I remember hearing or reading this account, likely after one of the Rainbow Theatre shows. Good observation Midway Kid.. on song diversity. A bright spot in later years. I especially liked some of the covers in that era. I liked the discussion of '78 vs. '72 earlier in this thread also. True.. its hard to compare the two years and even though song diversity was not their forte in '72, it was a high water mark for many reasons. ..but as pointed out, repetition was not the Dead's thing. That fact that they changed and evolved is a big part of their attraction and why so many of us, almost a generation later, are still so enthused. Its a big part of the attraction to me (in addition to the song writing). ..but man, compare me to the me in my late 20's, I will take me in my late 20's every time. I think they had to change in order to survive but its one of the things that separates the Dead from other bands. Thank god they recoreded a bunch of shows in their golden era and thank god some of them are recorded very well. Anyway.. great stuff tonight, made for a great Sunday night read.
May 30, 2016 - 9:03pm

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hbob1995

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The Who set lists

I have always been a big fan of The Who. I see them most years they come around and it is always a burr under my saddle that they mix it up very little. Pretty much the same songs year after year after year. This year, which once again is supposed to be the "last" tour, again,. they have managed to break out a few different tunes. But VERY few. Pete always said that he did not want to be a "greatest hits" band and then he turns around and plays the same songs every show. I caught Roger on a solo tour a few years ago and he did play some different stuff and he said it is Pete who refuses to mix it up. The most diverse band I know of is Pearl Jam. I have seen them back-to-back nights, like 60 songs, and not one repeat. That is a band I can truly respect for mixing up a set list.
May 30, 2016 - 5:20pm

#1618

bolo24

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Dead/The Who Days on the Green

I was there both days. The Who's set was completely identical Saturday and Sunday, except they added 3 songs for an encore on Sunday. I recall reading an account of a conversation between Townshend and Garcia, where Pete was utterly shocked that the Dead played 2 completely different shows on consecutive days and was asking how in the world they did that. Or something like that. Shout out to all the veterans out there as I hoist a cold one in your honor. Thank you for protecting our families and our freedom.
May 30, 2016 - 4:24pm

#1619

MidwayKid

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1989 alpine they played the wheel twice.

I remember at a three day run at alpine in 1989 that I was at. They did play "The Wheel" twice. Which was something I had never seen before. Which was just fine with me. Then on the summer tour 1991 they played a ton of different songs. Can't remember but it was in possibly in the 100's with little repeats. Somebody might know.
May 30, 2016 - 4:15pm

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stoltzfus

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ifn you know the circle jerks

operationoperation snip and tie snip and tie operation operation snip and tie snip and tie thank goodness that has to happen only once in a lifetime

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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

Extended FOTM?

I just read something about an extended ending on 80s versions of FOTM. Does anyone know anything about this? Only 80s version I have is Dead Set, and it is my shortest one!

Dave's Picks

Do they make the Dave's Picks available for individual sale to those of us who didn't buy the subscription? If so, is it on the release date, or a few weeks before?

Dave's Picks

Yes they are made available usually a couple weeks before they are due to ship. Act fast as they always sell out. Speaking of acting fast many E72's are sold out. Glad I picked up the Bickershaw. I see 4/8 & 4/14 still available. Those are tremendous. A friend of mine loves the National & mentioned he may have to give the Dead a try. I felt like telling him he'd be opening a huge can of worms. He buys a lot of music so if he likes the Dead he'd eventually end up on Ebay tracking down all those out of print gems. It becomes an obsession. Rewarding yes, but at what cost? As Keith said it consumes you. Sign me up as well for the counseling

E'72 Selling Out

Since last night,the shows from 4/29 & 5/7 have sold out, so that makes 13 gone with 9 more to go. Get them while you can kids or forever hold your peace. Rock on

Dave's Picks

Thanks for the info. I check this site often, so hopefuly I'll be able to snap it up. I like the shows from places I've been. Everytime I go to the Fillmore or Great American Music Hall I try to imagine the Dead on stage. Since the Orpheum is another local place, this is a show that is right up my alley. Glad I picked up some E72 shows. I got 4/14, 5/13 and 5/16. I already had Rocking the Rhine and Steppin' Out, so the tour is pretty well represented in my collection. I'm sure I'll wish I got more later. Alas

Sixtus

I also saw that article today, and it is an interesting read. There was a similar article within the last year that showed the same basic pattern with psilocybin / psilocin, the increase in connectivity between brain regions outside of typical pathways. Check out "Psychedelic Renaissance" by Dr. Ben Sessa, an interesting overview of some of the current research into psychedelics. Lots of interesting stuff.

re: Charlie3

Thanks for the tip man, I am going to check out Dr. Sessa's book. Love me some Amazon Prime. Check out Robert Monroe! That rabbit hole is amazing. Sixtus

E72

Hi all Great board ... I read a lot but don't often post. I Picked up 4 E72 yesterday. That brings my total to 10. 3 of the 4 shows I was after were sold out so I had to pick up 3 others from my "B" list to get to a total of 4. At these discount prices I couldn't resist. I have to think this will be it for E72. They've been in stock for a little long time and I assume they are trying to clean house and clear out some inventory. Sixtus, thanks for that drive-in reference at MUAM ... I live about 20 min from there and will check it out.

Europe 72

Greetings all. I feel very fortunate to have received my all music edition of Europe 72 this evening. I have owned 5/23 and 5/26 for a couple years and love them both. Disk 3 of 5/23 may be my favorite single disk Grateful Dead release ever. I was holding out on buying individual shows with the expectation of buying them all someday and when I saw the 25% off I jumped. I have to say that right after I ordered I was suddenly more excited to receive the package than I was even for 30 trips. I can't wait to work my way through this magical music. On that note, I have to believe this is not the end of the line of the Europe 72 releases. It may be a month or a year, but there is a market for it and no reason not to continue to produce the music. And, they should! On that note, I am calling for a re-release of Winterland 77! The demand for the box is huge, why not make more???? I can see the controversy with the Fillmore 69 box because of the way they worded that release. Round up at the movies, this release, Dave's picks, surviving members touring..... It is such a great time to be a deadhead. No other band on the planet even comes close to delivering any like this to their fans. There is just always something to look forward to. Next box??? Ark 69 would be amazing and my first pick! Alpine Valley 89 would be a winner too. I am excited for this 78 release and excited for whats to come. Goodnight dead land.

Ramones

Did someone mention the Ramones?This one goes out to Muleskinner. https://youtu.be/n0w_BuDs6oQ

4/12

1983, check it out

4/12 and the Ramones

I like it better than 10/21. The Help/Slip/Franks of the day might just be a high water mark of the period, despite sometimes sloppy moments and some gravel in the harmonies. I like 4/10 also, but its a home town venue and a pretty crisp recording. Of all the 80's stuff released, I a most disappointed with Dicks 6 and Alpine '82. Its a sound quality issue with me, not the playing. Hope I didn't offend too many lots of my friends like both.., but I think there was some stuff in the Spring that sounds better and Scarlet>Fire from 12/27 that year is no slouch either. There's video of that that floats with a ghoulish looking Garcia absolutely shredding it. Also.. has anyone else noticed that you don't see Muleskinner post much when Dylan is on the road? I'm pretty sure he's the real bob, you can tell because his posts can get a bit surly when he writes after 10 pm CST. just sayin' Managed to catch David Gilmour last night at the Garden. A true artist I can honestly mention in the same breath as the GD with a shared reverence. Must be something about black t-shirts and psychedelic guitar riffs. Like Garcia, the way he would slip between acoustic to electronic instrumentation and still retain a seamless authenticity and meaning impresses me. I'd imagine this is the last we will see of him in the States, Fare Thee Well, David.

Vguy72

Consider yourself on the way to being a successful parent when your child is well versed in the Ramones. What's next Stooges or Sex Pistols? I have a feeling either would REALLY p*ssoff Mrs Vguy!

Pissing off the wife....

....as far as punk goes, I think The Dead Milkmen, TSOL or Bad Brains may be up to bat next. All top shelf. Oh, and Jim, your subject said Ramones, but your message never mentioned them....slip of the mind? Awesome you saw Gilmore. Afraid to ask what the ticket price was....

Ramones and Not Pissing Off The Better Half

Ooops. There was something there, but I moved on and now I cant remember. Might have had something to do with muleskinner. Looks like the old man's.. getting old (and a little buzzed). Tickets were costly, good seats were almost two bills. A far cry from the good ole days, my first GD show was $10.50 and most were under $20. and VGuy, don't piss off the wife. The last thing we need is you crashing on our couches and playing punk and metal at ear piercing volumes. My gf has enough problems with my questionable music tastes and tendency to crank it up and rattle the walls in the wee hours. In truth, I cant tell if she hates Donna, Jerry or Brent the most. Perpaps that's why we never married.

bohlin / Jimbo

bohlin, that is a great selection for best CD in the box. Nice to have both Sugar Magnolia and Uncle John's Band on the same CD (in fact my favorite from the box also has both - 5/25 disc 3). Yours also starts with that nice He's Gone (or is it Comes a Time? In the car now, can't check). But the real gem is that NFA / Bo Didley sandwich. Jim - good observation - I'm pretty sure mule_skinner is one of Dylan's roadies.

Long distance runner, what you standin' there for?

Today in GD History - 4.13.83 - one of Vermont's Finest! http://www.darkstarpalace.com/2010/10/charlie-miller-dark-star-palace.h…

Wife loves Punk

The Ramones are her favorite. Never been a big fan but I love me some Minor Threat and Fugazi. Desperately trying to resist the urge to buy up the remaining Europe 72 shows I don't have that are on sale. I keep telling myself I have enough from that tour and I really do. This is a battle of willpower at this point! Ha!

Re: 4/13/83 TIGDH

..and the first of 6 Maybe You Know How I Feel's. The last was the 4/21/86 BCT Brent Meltdown show.

unusual occurrences at the Oregon coast (and elsewhere)

Went to see the aging parents in Salem these past few days. On the way down from Seattle experienced 2/3/78. :))) Burnt Weeny Sandwich. et al. At the coast for a night. burned some kelp and then listened to 13th floor elevators and then the Who best of while painting. then listened to Ramones 1st album. then White Light White Heat. Woke up at 2 am with a hankerin' for 9/2/78 Scarlet>Fire. burned some kelp and then called it up on Youtube. Oh what a fun time. Fell asleep afterward. woke up at 8 and listened to Bad Brains. on the way home listened to Thelma Theater (for some reason I didn't fully get off on that. hmm. that surprised me) and then Acid Mothers Temple and then 2/5/78. I really wish there was a career in this kind of thing. GOOOOOOOOD times, baby.

Ramones, punk

Well of course we did things differently on this side of the pond, saw the Ramones on their first tour, playing second fiddle to the Flamin Groovies at the Roundhouse, always found them to be a one trick pony, Shiela was a drunk docker....Saw the Pistols at their second (?) London gig at the Roxy, with the first iteration of Souxsie and the Banshees, saw tons of this first generation stuff at the Roxy since my job overlooked the club and my office was responsible for its maintenance, pretty much meant I could wander in just about anytime I wanted, I was 23 or 24, and was a bit too old for this, an old fart, but I really dug the energy, also frequented the pro situ milieux where Maclaren et al moved,so I knew its theoretical underpining, read Lipstick traces by Griel Marcus for insights in to its whole raison d etre, he is much closer to the truth than many other commentators would like despite what Mr Rotten says these days.

Punk

I'm a big Dead Kennedys fan, probably the best punk band in my eyes. Also check out the band Punk Is Dead, they play punk covers of Dead songs, pretty cool-

Shafts Of Lavender / DK's

There's an album of Jello Biafra backed by the Melvins called 'Never Breathe What You Can't See' that came out in 2004 that's a good listen if you're a DK's fan and if you're interested.

Re: Bad Brains

For those who appreciate DUB reggae 1970's style, Bad Brains has a CD called "I & I Survived." It's a great dub-reggae CD!

Next Box?????

How about 15th Anniversary shows, 1980, at Warfield and Radio City? Kind of nice, acoustic sets, then electric.

1980 WF & RCMH Shows

These are not in the vault. Many of them were taped over Rock on

Taping over...

Probably because of my own experiences in the 80s, but for some reason i crack up when i think of someone taping over a cool show.. DL goes into the vault, pulls out a warfield show, only to find that someone taped over it with Magnum PI. I'm in a weird mood today.

Taping over

One of those big "oops" goes to Doctor Who and the BBC. At some early point in Doctor Who the BBC dumped a load of tapes because it was costing money to store and who would ever want "them" again. :-)

Dave Strang and Dead Kennedy's

Always like Jello's "I blow minds for a living". If voting changed anything......

Shafts of Lav - Punk

How about a little Suicidal Tendencies? Institutionalized - wait a minute, we decided my best interest. Just a Pepsi. Back to Eddie Cantor.

Dennis Wilmot- Suicidal Tendencies

I just wanted a Pepsi! Haha I love that line, good music video to go along with it too. And DaveStrang I'm familiar with the Jello Biafra/Melvins album great recommendation. The Melvins are criminally underrated-

Acoustic - Electric

I wonder if those 2 acoustic/electric 1980 Saenger Theatre shows in New Orleans were taped on multi-track. Maybe they didn't get wiped! Could be a nice mini-mini box.

Dancing in the Streets

I love the Dancin's from this era, 76-78...Phil is a funky bass monster! You cant help but get up and do exactly what it says!!! Very nice!!! The kids, they dance and shake there bones! Peace.

Peggy-O

This peggy-o is also incredible! A beautiful, surging, performance of a sweet song! Very nice!!

Fire on the Mountain

Does anyone know how this song was extended in the 80s? I've read a couple of references in the past, to it getting an extra verse or solo, but I can't find anything different about it. Maybe it was after 1977 that the change happened? Either way, I can't detect a difference.

Cool Artwork

Definitely digging the artwork on the cd sleeves for the July '78 box. Glad to see that one of the sleeves has the same artwork as the single show release, I was almost considering getting that in addition to the box just to have the cover art. Particularly like the three sleeves with the skull in a natural setting, the ones with the stadium background are fine, but the others look great. The songs previewed so far really have me looking forward to this release. Hoping some of the artwork is available on a t-shirt or poster. Nice job Paul Pope.

Just beautiful . . .. Looking forward to this release.

Wow! The slipcase art is quite beautiful. I cannot wait to listen to this July 78 while marveling at the box design and artwork. Feels good just thinking. . ..

I like the artwork too, but.....

....what has me concerned, if you zoom in on the first picture, the spines already appear worn/frayed.....or maybe it's just me....

Surf Punks

That's the only punk I listened to, somewhere around '85-'86. Preferred rock n roll from the 60's/70's. And given the choice between 80's music or 'classic rock', it was an easy choice.

deadegad

And reading the liner notes.

Punk

Do Forgotten Rebels and Teenage Head count as punk bands. Besides the Dead Kennedys they are the only bands i can remember from my brief and painful skateboarding days. On a side note im selling my E72 box if interested pm me. Peace

Artwork

Artwork looks great to me! I am glad they are showing people what they are spending their money on too. Really excited for this one. Vguy72, it wouldn't be an official Rhino release without worn/frayed spines!

And the Liner Notes too!

I daydream, here and there, about getting a turntable. Holding those big album sleeves . . .. Reading the liner notes. . .. The glorious artwork. . .. Ahh. . .. To be savored . . .. With alcohol.

're: Europe 72 @ lovejerry

I had conversed with Dr Rhino last year and he indicated that the stock was finite and was not sure they would last a year, so I jumped on it when they had that FTW tix fiasco coupon last year and got the all music edition. If the All music edition is available, grab it and sell the duplicates. Email Dr Rhino to see if stock will be replenished... wish they'd replenish the Fillmore West all music edition ;) . EDIT: I'm a couple of weeks behind did not realize all music edition was sold out - my bad...

Outtake from Terrapin Station

There is a studio outtake of Fire on Terrapin Station as part of the Beyond Description box set that has a different verse. As far as I can tell the verses are the same in the live versions.Cheers

Fire...

I think they added the "Almost Ablaze" verse to Fire on the Mountain starting at Giants Stadium on 09/02/78. One of the Late Great Latvalla's favorite versions. There have been quite a few lyric changes and the song has an interesting history. Mickey first started playing pieces of what would become this song back in 1972. David Dodd talks about it a bit in his Greatest Stories blog and Annotated Grateful Dead project. http://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-storie… http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/fire.html There is some detail on wording changes at a few places on Dead.Net too. http://www.dead.net/song/fire-mountain So the short answer is the song went through some lyric and structural while they were preparing for Egypt.

Punk

For those punk fans out there, it's worth noting that Australia and New Zealand has produced some of the finest punk records of all-time. Radio Birdman is up there with Stooges, MC5 and the like; while the Saints are arguably pioneers in their own right. There are many others, like the Hard-Ons (they were forced to change their name when the toured the US to The Hard Ones) and dozens of thrash bands of quality: Hellmen, MassAppeal, Eastern Dark and so on. And the greatest UK punk band of all (IMHO) is The Damned. So many quality albums and still able to put on awesome gigs today.

I never thought....

....that an innocent post about busting my son's punk cherry with the Ramones would go on so long. Nothing like cleaning out the dust bunnies from the corners every now and then. Music is universal, even in the middle of a charged up mosh pit. Kudos on mentioning The Damned Simon. Difficult to remember them all as the seasons pass....

Re: Bad Influence

You're a bad influence on us VGuy. My mother warned me about the likes of people like you. Just today I thought, I wonder if Elmers Glue will make my hair stand up like a knifeblade? I asked my gf's 7 year old what his favorite Grateful Dead song was today. He said is Fire on the Mountain a good one?

Haha Jim....

....I'm a bad influence on myself. Checkmate....

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