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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • #201
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    Why is this still on sale?
    I can only answer for myself, and it's very simple; DiP 18 and, if i felt I needed any more than that, Red Rocks is available separately. on a separate note; does anyone know, is Betty getting her dues; I and several others have asked, and I haven't seen any kind of response at all. If not, surely a Pledge page would be good; or is there already one up? Anyone know?
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    Kayak Guy hit the nail on the head
    "This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated.Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy?" This is very insightful indeed. I can see no other explanation for the disparity.
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    Taking the threads back from the hackers
    This page for a while was filled with hackers posting away. when i translated some of it through google before it was cleaned up, it was polish slang for "i like this place" and "these people are funny". This set rocks BIGLY, you should consider yourselves lucky its still available for cost and still numbered editions. If you don't have it yet, it's worth the money and the artwork is fantastic, in the style of a graphic novel. Compared to other recent boxes that feature Normanized versions of Betty's that have been in circulation for 30 years, This July 78 box has 4 unreleased Betty's, well 3 and a Stereo upgrade from the mono that circulated. This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated. Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy? In any event if you haven't got it yet, you really should grab this box before it sells out and it becomes speculative on ebay, if just for the box and artwork.
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    The Bigger Question is....
    Why has this not sold out, its fantastic. Yes.. music today and the constant Russian Hackers is a big part of the reason, the other part is beyond an initial rollout strategy, they have no involvement. For the longest time this thread faded was not even prevalent from the home page of dead.net. I'm not complaining, I have mine and love it.. I just come to this thread from time to time and think wtf?
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    Why is this still on sale?
    You all have good guesses, as good as mine, which is. The real reason this is still available is the meltdown of Music Today shortly after the release, the website going to comments only mode for months until the Dave's subscription was announced, when NOTHING was available for purchase, and the still cryptic hint above that at some point it will be available digitally "on release day". Its very likely there are 2000 people that would have bought the box if it was the only option, but waited for the digital version instead. Add to that some short term memory loss and short attention spans and you have over 2000 copies left of this box set which I like much better than the Spring 77 box. I love this artwork and would have spent lots of dead presidents on T shirts, posters, and other schwag if offered. I also feel many people pay attention to their browsers and for months this site has been unsafe and I have to click through 2 browser warnings just to log in that say the site is bad for my internet security. NO where else on the internet do i have to click the 2nd "Are you Sure?" dialog box. What's up with that, someone saving IT money by waiting for a new interface, maybe ROAR as the core in the fall? Meanwhile the site limps along on, unsecured until the next explosion when Dave's 22 goes on sale shortly before May 77 part 1 ships and people find out if they got a limited edition or music only version. I bet that will be fun times on the board ;)
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    I agree Dschian on each of your points. I think it is noteworthy, however that this one is dragging on with 17% of the inventory still left after a year. I think they planned on this one moving faster and I don't blame them. I would have thought that 3 totally uncirculated betty boards and two classics with one only circulating in mono would have generated more buzz. I suspect Rhino and Co. thought the same and thus the 15k. It seems like each release gets core customer sales in the 10k range. That number represents those of us who are so pathetically obsessed that we buy everything no matter what. Then the remaining 5k in sales are the "investors" and occasional buyers. I think that dependable 10k in sales per release is pretty clearly indicated by the numbers set for the FW69 box, early DaPs etc. I think the DaP numbers have gone up only because of the demand created by the second hand market. I do find the hue and cry over limited editions a bit exasperating as I think I understand the considerations being made here and the need to limit stock on hand and warehousing. Really, if we would dependably buy 100k per release they would gladly print it; I'm sure of it. We cant blame the manufacturer for trying to avoid inventory warehousing expenses. This release is a clear indication to me that they have the number set just about right to accomplish their goal of printing and moving releases on a continual release schedule.
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    Yup, 80% of the run sold in one year- Rhino knows its base well
    Yup, 0ver 80% of the run sold in about a year; at this rate, the rest will probably sell in the next two to three years. Based upon what I've seen buying modern cd and lp releases, it's not unusual for a run to take a few years (and sometimes up to twice that time) to sell out, even for many popular releases. In that respect, wadeocu, yes, Rhino knows its customer base quite well. Nearly every other Dead limited edition/limited release has sold out relatively quickly (from a few days to several months), and even the slower ones, like the second Spring '90 box and the May '77 one, sold out within a few years or less. Believe it or not, Rhino's goal is probably not to make sure that these sell out in a heartbeat, but to sell the greatest number without multiple production runs or endless inventory. I for one am glad that people don't always have to rush to immediately buy one or have to otherwise search for it on ebay at inflated prices. Recently Rhino sold over $2 million dollars worth of the new box set (before the all-music release that followed) within three days, even with the first marked by technical difficulties- by any standard, that's pretty impressive nowadays for physical media.As a follow-up to my recent post below, finally got a chance to hear my Winterland 1977 box again (I have a huge listening backlog) and came away much more impressed by it than by the first May 1977 box, with the exception of the latter's 5/13 show, which is excellent and the best of them. I still do think, though, that overall the Summer 1978 box outranks the May '77 box in quality of shows.
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    1977 the last great year for the Dead?
    Rbmunkin, while in some respects 1977 WAS the last great year for the Dead- chiefly in the reliability of their musicianship, according to what I've heard from later years- it certainly wasn't their last great year for many listeners in terms of many, many great later performances. To put my bias in context, my favorite Dead years are 1969 and 1972-'74, so I'm not an '80's deadhead, though I attended the bulk of my shows during the earlier part of that decade and love many of the shows from its first half.I have both the May 1977 box set and the July '78 one, and to my ears the 1978 one is substantially better. I say that because while the 1977 performances in that box are all reasonably strong, they're not always particularly exciting to me. The band, and Jerry in particular, strike me as being in a more predictable, professional mode at the shows in this earlier '77 box release (though I expect the new '77 box to be substantially better performances, based upon the bits I've heard). I find the improvisation more raw, energetic, and dynamic in the 1978 box, and to me that's what makes shows stand out. Also, the song selection is a bit more varied, which I appreciate. While 1978 may be weaker overall as a year (and I haven't heard most of either year), I find these performances to be better than much of what I've heard from '77. Similarly, according to what a listener likes, great boxes (if not great recordings) could be put together of performances from the early 80's or even the Spring/Summer 1985 tour, I believe. One slight drawback of the 1978 box is that the recordings have a bit less depth to the sound, but that goes with the territory of later 2-track soundboards. If you like the '78 sound, definitely get this box while it's still around! I think that they're all (and not just the Red Rocks shows) excellent performances and better ones than the Dave's Picks releases from '78 so far.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Submitted by LoveJerry on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 10:06

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I just read something about an extended ending on 80s versions of FOTM. Does anyone know anything about this? Only 80s version I have is Dead Set, and it is my shortest one!
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Submitted by black throated… on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 10:12

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Do they make the Dave's Picks available for individual sale to those of us who didn't buy the subscription? If so, is it on the release date, or a few weeks before?
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Submitted by reijo29 on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 10:28

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Yes they are made available usually a couple weeks before they are due to ship. Act fast as they always sell out. Speaking of acting fast many E72's are sold out. Glad I picked up the Bickershaw. I see 4/8 & 4/14 still available. Those are tremendous. A friend of mine loves the National & mentioned he may have to give the Dead a try. I felt like telling him he'd be opening a huge can of worms. He buys a lot of music so if he likes the Dead he'd eventually end up on Ebay tracking down all those out of print gems. It becomes an obsession. Rewarding yes, but at what cost? As Keith said it consumes you. Sign me up as well for the counseling
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 12:04

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Since last night,the shows from 4/29 & 5/7 have sold out, so that makes 13 gone with 9 more to go. Get them while you can kids or forever hold your peace. Rock on
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Submitted by black throated… on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 15:14

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Thanks for the info. I check this site often, so hopefuly I'll be able to snap it up. I like the shows from places I've been. Everytime I go to the Fillmore or Great American Music Hall I try to imagine the Dead on stage. Since the Orpheum is another local place, this is a show that is right up my alley. Glad I picked up some E72 shows. I got 4/14, 5/13 and 5/16. I already had Rocking the Rhine and Steppin' Out, so the tour is pretty well represented in my collection. I'm sure I'll wish I got more later. Alas
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 13:16

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I also saw that article today, and it is an interesting read. There was a similar article within the last year that showed the same basic pattern with psilocybin / psilocin, the increase in connectivity between brain regions outside of typical pathways. Check out "Psychedelic Renaissance" by Dr. Ben Sessa, an interesting overview of some of the current research into psychedelics. Lots of interesting stuff.
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 13:19

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Thanks for the tip man, I am going to check out Dr. Sessa's book. Love me some Amazon Prime. Check out Robert Monroe! That rabbit hole is amazing. Sixtus
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Submitted by takimoto on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 17:10

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Hi all Great board ... I read a lot but don't often post. I Picked up 4 E72 yesterday. That brings my total to 10. 3 of the 4 shows I was after were sold out so I had to pick up 3 others from my "B" list to get to a total of 4. At these discount prices I couldn't resist. I have to think this will be it for E72. They've been in stock for a little long time and I assume they are trying to clean house and clear out some inventory. Sixtus, thanks for that drive-in reference at MUAM ... I live about 20 min from there and will check it out.
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Submitted by bohlint on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 19:46

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Greetings all. I feel very fortunate to have received my all music edition of Europe 72 this evening. I have owned 5/23 and 5/26 for a couple years and love them both. Disk 3 of 5/23 may be my favorite single disk Grateful Dead release ever. I was holding out on buying individual shows with the expectation of buying them all someday and when I saw the 25% off I jumped. I have to say that right after I ordered I was suddenly more excited to receive the package than I was even for 30 trips. I can't wait to work my way through this magical music. On that note, I have to believe this is not the end of the line of the Europe 72 releases. It may be a month or a year, but there is a market for it and no reason not to continue to produce the music. And, they should! On that note, I am calling for a re-release of Winterland 77! The demand for the box is huge, why not make more???? I can see the controversy with the Fillmore 69 box because of the way they worded that release. Round up at the movies, this release, Dave's picks, surviving members touring..... It is such a great time to be a deadhead. No other band on the planet even comes close to delivering any like this to their fans. There is just always something to look forward to. Next box??? Ark 69 would be amazing and my first pick! Alpine Valley 89 would be a winner too. I am excited for this 78 release and excited for whats to come. Goodnight dead land.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 19:43

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1983, check it out
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 20:26

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I like it better than 10/21. The Help/Slip/Franks of the day might just be a high water mark of the period, despite sometimes sloppy moments and some gravel in the harmonies. I like 4/10 also, but its a home town venue and a pretty crisp recording. Of all the 80's stuff released, I a most disappointed with Dicks 6 and Alpine '82. Its a sound quality issue with me, not the playing. Hope I didn't offend too many lots of my friends like both.., but I think there was some stuff in the Spring that sounds better and Scarlet>Fire from 12/27 that year is no slouch either. There's video of that that floats with a ghoulish looking Garcia absolutely shredding it. Also.. has anyone else noticed that you don't see Muleskinner post much when Dylan is on the road? I'm pretty sure he's the real bob, you can tell because his posts can get a bit surly when he writes after 10 pm CST. just sayin' Managed to catch David Gilmour last night at the Garden. A true artist I can honestly mention in the same breath as the GD with a shared reverence. Must be something about black t-shirts and psychedelic guitar riffs. Like Garcia, the way he would slip between acoustic to electronic instrumentation and still retain a seamless authenticity and meaning impresses me. I'd imagine this is the last we will see of him in the States, Fare Thee Well, David.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 20:21

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Consider yourself on the way to being a successful parent when your child is well versed in the Ramones. What's next Stooges or Sex Pistols? I have a feeling either would REALLY p*ssoff Mrs Vguy!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 04/12/2016 - 20:27

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....as far as punk goes, I think The Dead Milkmen, TSOL or Bad Brains may be up to bat next. All top shelf. Oh, and Jim, your subject said Ramones, but your message never mentioned them....slip of the mind? Awesome you saw Gilmore. Afraid to ask what the ticket price was....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 05:54

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Ooops. There was something there, but I moved on and now I cant remember. Might have had something to do with muleskinner. Looks like the old man's.. getting old (and a little buzzed). Tickets were costly, good seats were almost two bills. A far cry from the good ole days, my first GD show was $10.50 and most were under $20. and VGuy, don't piss off the wife. The last thing we need is you crashing on our couches and playing punk and metal at ear piercing volumes. My gf has enough problems with my questionable music tastes and tendency to crank it up and rattle the walls in the wee hours. In truth, I cant tell if she hates Donna, Jerry or Brent the most. Perpaps that's why we never married.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 06:15

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bohlin, that is a great selection for best CD in the box. Nice to have both Sugar Magnolia and Uncle John's Band on the same CD (in fact my favorite from the box also has both - 5/25 disc 3). Yours also starts with that nice He's Gone (or is it Comes a Time? In the car now, can't check). But the real gem is that NFA / Bo Didley sandwich. Jim - good observation - I'm pretty sure mule_skinner is one of Dylan's roadies.
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Submitted by Ridin that Train on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 06:55

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The Ramones are her favorite. Never been a big fan but I love me some Minor Threat and Fugazi. Desperately trying to resist the urge to buy up the remaining Europe 72 shows I don't have that are on sale. I keep telling myself I have enough from that tour and I really do. This is a battle of willpower at this point! Ha!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 07:43

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..and the first of 6 Maybe You Know How I Feel's. The last was the 4/21/86 BCT Brent Meltdown show.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 08:21

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Went to see the aging parents in Salem these past few days. On the way down from Seattle experienced 2/3/78. :))) Burnt Weeny Sandwich. et al. At the coast for a night. burned some kelp and then listened to 13th floor elevators and then the Who best of while painting. then listened to Ramones 1st album. then White Light White Heat. Woke up at 2 am with a hankerin' for 9/2/78 Scarlet>Fire. burned some kelp and then called it up on Youtube. Oh what a fun time. Fell asleep afterward. woke up at 8 and listened to Bad Brains. on the way home listened to Thelma Theater (for some reason I didn't fully get off on that. hmm. that surprised me) and then Acid Mothers Temple and then 2/5/78. I really wish there was a career in this kind of thing. GOOOOOOOOD times, baby.
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Submitted by Dogon on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 08:35

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Well of course we did things differently on this side of the pond, saw the Ramones on their first tour, playing second fiddle to the Flamin Groovies at the Roundhouse, always found them to be a one trick pony, Shiela was a drunk docker....Saw the Pistols at their second (?) London gig at the Roxy, with the first iteration of Souxsie and the Banshees, saw tons of this first generation stuff at the Roxy since my job overlooked the club and my office was responsible for its maintenance, pretty much meant I could wander in just about anytime I wanted, I was 23 or 24, and was a bit too old for this, an old fart, but I really dug the energy, also frequented the pro situ milieux where Maclaren et al moved,so I knew its theoretical underpining, read Lipstick traces by Griel Marcus for insights in to its whole raison d etre, he is much closer to the truth than many other commentators would like despite what Mr Rotten says these days.
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Submitted by Shafts Of Lavender on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 08:47

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I'm a big Dead Kennedys fan, probably the best punk band in my eyes. Also check out the band Punk Is Dead, they play punk covers of Dead songs, pretty cool-
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 10:18

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There's an album of Jello Biafra backed by the Melvins called 'Never Breathe What You Can't See' that came out in 2004 that's a good listen if you're a DK's fan and if you're interested.
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Submitted by Ken Goodman on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 10:59

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For those who appreciate DUB reggae 1970's style, Bad Brains has a CD called "I & I Survived." It's a great dub-reggae CD!
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Submitted by JDSept on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 11:57

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How about 15th Anniversary shows, 1980, at Warfield and Radio City? Kind of nice, acoustic sets, then electric.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 12:46

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These are not in the vault. Many of them were taped over Rock on
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Submitted by 80sfan on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 13:05

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Probably because of my own experiences in the 80s, but for some reason i crack up when i think of someone taping over a cool show.. DL goes into the vault, pulls out a warfield show, only to find that someone taped over it with Magnum PI. I'm in a weird mood today.
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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 13:26

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One of those big "oops" goes to Doctor Who and the BBC. At some early point in Doctor Who the BBC dumped a load of tapes because it was costing money to store and who would ever want "them" again. :-)
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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 13:40

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How about a little Suicidal Tendencies? Institutionalized - wait a minute, we decided my best interest. Just a Pepsi. Back to Eddie Cantor.
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Submitted by Shafts Of Lavender on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 14:07

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I just wanted a Pepsi! Haha I love that line, good music video to go along with it too. And DaveStrang I'm familiar with the Jello Biafra/Melvins album great recommendation. The Melvins are criminally underrated-
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Submitted by One Man on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 14:51

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I wonder if those 2 acoustic/electric 1980 Saenger Theatre shows in New Orleans were taped on multi-track. Maybe they didn't get wiped! Could be a nice mini-mini box.
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Submitted by eyes43 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 15:17

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I love the Dancin's from this era, 76-78...Phil is a funky bass monster! You cant help but get up and do exactly what it says!!! Very nice!!! The kids, they dance and shake there bones! Peace.
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Submitted by eyes43 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 15:32

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This peggy-o is also incredible! A beautiful, surging, performance of a sweet song! Very nice!!
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 16:01

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Does anyone know how this song was extended in the 80s? I've read a couple of references in the past, to it getting an extra verse or solo, but I can't find anything different about it. Maybe it was after 1977 that the change happened? Either way, I can't detect a difference.
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 16:07

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Definitely digging the artwork on the cd sleeves for the July '78 box. Glad to see that one of the sleeves has the same artwork as the single show release, I was almost considering getting that in addition to the box just to have the cover art. Particularly like the three sleeves with the skull in a natural setting, the ones with the stadium background are fine, but the others look great. The songs previewed so far really have me looking forward to this release. Hoping some of the artwork is available on a t-shirt or poster. Nice job Paul Pope.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 16:20

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....what has me concerned, if you zoom in on the first picture, the spines already appear worn/frayed.....or maybe it's just me....
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 16:32

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That's the only punk I listened to, somewhere around '85-'86. Preferred rock n roll from the 60's/70's. And given the choice between 80's music or 'classic rock', it was an easy choice.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 16:53

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And reading the liner notes.
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Submitted by PonchoBill on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 17:11

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Do Forgotten Rebels and Teenage Head count as punk bands. Besides the Dead Kennedys they are the only bands i can remember from my brief and painful skateboarding days. On a side note im selling my E72 box if interested pm me. Peace
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Submitted by bohlint on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 17:13

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Artwork looks great to me! I am glad they are showing people what they are spending their money on too. Really excited for this one. Vguy72, it wouldn't be an official Rhino release without worn/frayed spines!
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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 17:36

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I daydream, here and there, about getting a turntable. Holding those big album sleeves . . .. Reading the liner notes. . .. The glorious artwork. . .. Ahh. . .. To be savored . . .. With alcohol.
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Submitted by boblopes on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 20:05

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I had conversed with Dr Rhino last year and he indicated that the stock was finite and was not sure they would last a year, so I jumped on it when they had that FTW tix fiasco coupon last year and got the all music edition. If the All music edition is available, grab it and sell the duplicates. Email Dr Rhino to see if stock will be replenished... wish they'd replenish the Fillmore West all music edition ;) . EDIT: I'm a couple of weeks behind did not realize all music edition was sold out - my bad...
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Submitted by hamal on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 20:08

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There is a studio outtake of Fire on Terrapin Station as part of the Beyond Description box set that has a different verse. As far as I can tell the verses are the same in the live versions.Cheers
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 20:41

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I think they added the "Almost Ablaze" verse to Fire on the Mountain starting at Giants Stadium on 09/02/78. One of the Late Great Latvalla's favorite versions. There have been quite a few lyric changes and the song has an interesting history. Mickey first started playing pieces of what would become this song back in 1972. David Dodd talks about it a bit in his Greatest Stories blog and Annotated Grateful Dead project. http://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-storie… http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/fire.html There is some detail on wording changes at a few places on Dead.Net too. http://www.dead.net/song/fire-mountain So the short answer is the song went through some lyric and structural while they were preparing for Egypt.
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Submitted by SimonT on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 20:42

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For those punk fans out there, it's worth noting that Australia and New Zealand has produced some of the finest punk records of all-time. Radio Birdman is up there with Stooges, MC5 and the like; while the Saints are arguably pioneers in their own right. There are many others, like the Hard-Ons (they were forced to change their name when the toured the US to The Hard Ones) and dozens of thrash bands of quality: Hellmen, MassAppeal, Eastern Dark and so on. And the greatest UK punk band of all (IMHO) is The Damned. So many quality albums and still able to put on awesome gigs today.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 21:45

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....that an innocent post about busting my son's punk cherry with the Ramones would go on so long. Nothing like cleaning out the dust bunnies from the corners every now and then. Music is universal, even in the middle of a charged up mosh pit. Kudos on mentioning The Damned Simon. Difficult to remember them all as the seasons pass....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 21:59

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You're a bad influence on us VGuy. My mother warned me about the likes of people like you. Just today I thought, I wonder if Elmers Glue will make my hair stand up like a knifeblade? I asked my gf's 7 year old what his favorite Grateful Dead song was today. He said is Fire on the Mountain a good one?
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/13/2016 - 22:53

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....I'm a bad influence on myself. Checkmate....
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