Grateful Dead

The good Doctor will take care of that - Dr.Rhino@rhino.com. I had two problems in the last 2 years that were handled straight up, prompt and professional. And, allman, you should email the Dr. about the missing disc.

....thanks bluecrow. The second set of St. Paul ends on a high, high note. Like one man said, Scarlet is outstanding. Fire and Dancin average (sorry. My opinion. Average Dead, however, is like saying today's sunset wasn't as good as yesterday's). From drumz on, fasten the seatbelts. Sugar Mags is fantastic. This is why I love the Dead....in your face. Then they steal it. Out-fuckin-standing. Top ten Magnolia here people. Don't miss it!! Incredible sound....no flubs there. Wow!!....

....and jumped Omaha for the second set of the first Red Rocks show, cause that Cold Rain, BIODTL, Scarlet-> Fire sounded so tempting for so long, I couldn't resist. Digging Jerry's vox in Cold Rain....yeah, digging....

00525 in SE UT yesterday. My first audience tape came via a friend of my youngest brother in '81(?) - it was 7/7/78, the first set and beginning second cutting in the fat groove just before 1st verse of Fire. The tape was in the Wagner lineage - https://archive.org/details/gd1978-07-07.aud.wagner.moore.berger.82931…. To this day I consider this to be one of the finest audience captures I have ever heard. You are there in Red Rocks and the band is killing it - every note of that tape in my DNA. And of course most everybody knows the next night (I'm moving to Australia.) A couple years ago I read Oroboros tale of the Omaha show - checked out the audience on Archive and was amazed. I wanted it released. And i wanted 7/7, and 7/8. an impossible dream, tapes missing. And now we have the whole freaking tour . . . .

the 7/7/78 cold rain is the finest there is

....leading the charge. "Take it easy now." Impressed is an understatement. I may lose some sleep the next few nights....

Received 11687 on Wednesday. It is a joy to behold.Beautiful packaging,incredible sound,fantastic playing.Even the shipping box is nice.Have only listened to 7/1 and 7/3 but I know the best is yet to come.Thanks for this beauty. These shows are just thrilling.

When you import CD's into iTunes the track information is never stored on each CD. Instead iTunes compares stuff like number of tracks, length of each track ect with an online database to download the track names. If there is no track info then it's not on the database, you're discs should still play fine. I often find that with Dead releases the track info is sometimes not there, most likely due to the limited. Hope this helps.

Duplicate post - see above ^ The JackStraw got me to double save ;) !!!

Most of the iTunes entries when you download are not from the mothership, but fellow fans who are the first to download and create the album names and songs for each disc. That's why the album titles are so inconsistent. Depends on who enters the info first is how the disc title is laid out wnd whether a song with a transition has > or -> or ---> or nothing at all. Not sure why it's not provided by the Band or Rhino, but it does not appear to be... Digging first two shows, in fact, getting a second listen or possibly third before moving on. I want to read book and see waterfall before immersing in the Omaha show. Wow Jerry's smoking on guitar solo on 1st JackStraw - getting goosebumps again!

A new day... feels good. Vguy - I took your advice and put disc2 of DaP18 to mellow to Comes a Time. Now I can open the box today. Friday...mmmm...looking like a prolonged green day here. Family let me know the condo at the beach is open again. I just went the first of April, looks like I am going again on Monday. Waiting till Monday because The Hangout Festival is going on this weekend just a few miles away and the area will be slam packed. So some work, some green day with packing/planning then a fine beer, grilled steak and 78 box this evening. Just a great way to LIVE a Friday! Nitecat - Yep, next order will be going to the business center from which I work. I can trust the manager to accept and guard my deliveries. No more shipping to home on anything I think. Why risk it when the biggest entrepreneurial growth industry is driving by and scooping up packages off of front porches. Hmmmm, little uber driver, little herbal delivery, little package theft. The new sharing economy...

GFar your Friday plan sounds just exactly perfect as outlined. I'll be right over. Sixtus

then tell dave vault@dead.net i'm certain he'll appreciate it i'm thru the first three, i thought KC and st paul were more exciting than omaha, but its the energy in the playing of all these shows that makes them special. plus this is the best sounding 2-track i've ever heard i'm saving 7/7 & 7/8 for this weekend, boiling crawfish on the deck and blowing minds

Come On!!! Maybe some time I can take some folks down to the gulf with me. Imma book reading hop head. But if you like golf, fishing, deep sea or otherwise, or my favorite, bikini watching, then this is the place for you! Oh yea, hope to finish the Robert Monroe autobiography while I am down there. Then, turn my attention to his writings. Coffee and rockin it. Where ere ye Doc?

Tempted as I am to head over to the gfar/sixtus soiree, I'm heading to New Orleans for some boiled crawfish and the debut of 7/7 ala Senor Grand. We can't get those up North...

Damn Gary that sounds like just about the perfect friday. It's a beautiful day here in northern NJ. I'm working from home and playing the St. Paul show...really enjoying it and already looking forward to giving it another spin later tonight (really trying to take my time with the whole box, but especially the first 2 shows since i wasn't as familiar with them as i am with the other 3 shows). Hope everyone has a great weekend full of good weather and good music!

got through the first three tracks on the way to work today. Tennessee has the energy rising up. Jack Straw...got through 2 minutes, but I have to wait until the drive home to hear that. lovin' it. the box it was shipped in was beautiful, too, but it got wrecked when I opened it. the inner contents were in perfect condition.

Mine arrived on Wed and I'm gonna start with the 3 unreleased Betty boards. Since it is a real shitty day down here on the Gulf, I took a sick day. Got the Espresso machine warmed up and the house is empty so it is time to blast back to the summer of '78 (they were great years). Just out of college and prior to signing on the dotted line for the USAF The box is beautifully designed and so far I'm really impressed with the betty's. It is hard to believe that these were so close to being destroyed. We heads are indeed fortunate to have a second chance. Not everyday you get a second chance Mickey's base drum is competing with the thunder outside, but Jer and the boys are really cookin' in the second Omaha set Estimated thru Iko really rocks DRP out

Someone posted yesterday about how many box sets were left in inventory... Just curious how folks know. I don't think I've ever seen a How Many Are Left link... : )

As always, it is an exciting time when a new show you have never heard surfaces. I took the 7/1/78 arrowhead show for a ride yesterday. On paper the show looks kinda short and standard. The first set was good but nothing really stood out as unique to me. I thought maybe this was gonna be one of those solid but not spectacular shows. Then I put on disc 2. Terrapin to start was solid but not perfect, followed by a really good and spacey playing in the band which fed into drums (already)... Again not to sure about what to expect. Out of space the show hit hyper-drive and launched into one of the best Estimated Prophets (IMHO) with Jerry goin' crazy and the energy just kept building as they went into a really, really good Other One. The rest of the second set was just as good... Even Around & Around was a frenetic jam. Excellent listening! Can't wait to hear the other shows.

Received my 78 box set yesterday. Holy moly, well done! The 78 box set presentation is gorgeous! Loving the lost Betty Boards! Next box set May 77, part II? Keep up the good work!

Quodlibet, To check the inventory, you just see how many units the store lets you put in your cart. So if the store lets you put 1,500 box sets in your cart, you know there are at least 1,500 left.

Ahh. That's really clever. I doubt I would ever have thought to try that! Thanks for the inventory explanatory. Now back to my auditory dilatory

....you know it gdhead77. JiminMD and I have been PMing a bit about how phenomenal that sequence is. The Dead play both types of music. Rock and Roll....

82 minutes of Drums and Space. E72 drum solos were kind of cool, short interludes that felt like they embellished Dark Star....also dug the early Mickey / Billy drums that were 4-5 minutes long during Cryptical and some other songs...but I'm not crazy about most post-hiatus "Rhythm Devils". It was cool to get up and go to the bathroom, but I'd have been more impressed by 5 minutes of blow your mind fast drumming than what these guys did. With two drummers, they could have done something like Neil Peart circa Exit Stage Left YYZ - now that's a drum solo! I may have left these on the cutting room floor.

01008 arrived to the badlands of New Mexico. It's gonna be mountain ballet around the fire, under the full moon tonight !

Minas - I have to say I'm in the same camp. I've never been a fan of the Drums > Space mess, especially the later reallllyyy long versions. IMHO, it just really interrupts the 2nd set flow. I don't know, maybe I just don't get it, but this suite always seemed like a big waste of time. It's one of the reasons I generally avoid the 80's and 90's As to the YYZ solo... So true! Back when I was but a lad, I used to wonder if Neil had 4 arms or something, cuz there was no way one guy could be playing all that. But even more than his solos, I really liked the way he'd add texture to songs with his odd and unique rhythms. You know who else is really technically gifted? The drummer for Dave Matthews' Band. Can't remember his name, but man he's really tight.

I don't listen to Drumz>Space every time.. but leaving them out would cause other problems. Come to think of it.. I don't listen to Mexicali and US Blues every time either. ..but taking them out would surely piss off somebody. I do usually listen to them the first run through, which is often enjoyable, especially if it was a show I was at. That's my take, leave them in, you can always FF. Every now and then they are other worldly and truly kick ass. A few come to mind... Yea VGuy.. I'm really digging the second set of 7/1. I haven't finished 7/2 and most of the what I have listened to was a distracted listen.., such is life.

Funny - I always liked the 80's 90's drums space sequences. One of my favorites is from 6/15/85; mellow ambient deliciousness. I do find these 10-20 minute 78 cowbell banging extravaganzas a bit tedious. I also never really cared for those 1970 drum roll contests in the other one suite; just kind of monotonous to my ears. The modern era saw the improv really blossom into something I really liked though.

This is why trying to satisfy us all never works. I find the short pre-later '80s drums on the whole uninteresting. Space I have always liked. The TTATS box drums/space from about '87 forward, certainly '91 forward, I loved, and were among the highlights of those sets. And I am generally a '68-'78 person. Try the 12/30/90 sequence from Crazy Fingers through Space; the drummers pick up the band's motifs and the band picks up the drummers' rythyms.

....there is a very easy way to satisfy us all. Keep releasing box sets like this one. Problem solved!!....

If ya don't like it don't listen to it, but don't leave it out it was the best thing at the shows especially the later years.

I see it both as a lot of fun and a sometimes lazy way for the band to pad set lengths. in later years space was sometimes unbearable. I remember a show in Seattle (94 or 95) where I was ready to crawl out of my skin because the ongoing dissonance. that said, Drums at those shows (95) were great. but i just let DnS happen. eventually whether I dig it or not, it transitions into something else.

I understand the 2/14/68 show was recorded on a multi-reel 8 track recorder (i.e. multi-track). Does anyone know if the filler material from several other dates on disc one and the bonus disc are also multi-track? I would think not, but it's also a strange editing decision to break up the flow of the 2/14 show the way they did, by putting filler at the end of disc one, and then getting back to the 2/14 show on disc two.

I like it and listen to it most of the time.But yeah, they got really long in 94/95. Why? Because there's no lyrics to remember. Usually that was the time for a bathroom break because you didn't want to miss any songs. But, then the bathroom break got shifted to the WTGH/Samba time slot. I was very happy to hear D/S last summer at FTW. Fact is, it's a Dead trademark and I missed it. 84/85 Drums/Space is especially nice. Neil Peart is good but he plays the same thing every show. And because they won't play a complete Xanadu is why I haven't gone since '95. I initially said that in '92 but went again in '95, and was disappointed, so I stopped going again.

Greetings, heroes. Getting caught up again...love the buzz on the new set and hope everyone is enjoying it. #3262 made it to southeastern Louisiana a day later than expected, but I'm recovering nicely. Very cool presentation, I haven't read all of the book yet and have only just started listening to Arrowhead, so only scratching the surface. I am OK storing box sets on a different shelf than the other CDs, so the DVD cases don't bother me and I love the artwork. Only up to Rhythm Devils on Arrowhead, found some flashes in Jack Straw and Big River, but didn't think things really rolled until Terrapin and Playin'. Made for some good driving today. And how cool is opening for both Waylon / Jessi and Willie? Today is of course also Dylan Day, with the release of Fallen Angels. Just finished the first spin of the LP. Very nice and an interesting compliment to Shadows in the Night. Not going to knock you out like a new album of originals, and it is not very dissimilar in scope from Shadows, but it does have it's own character. More upbeat numbers, more shuffles, and a fantastic version of That Ol' Black Magic on side 2. It is preceeded by Melancholy Mood, which is my other favorite after one listen. Less of a singular mood piece than Shadows, more love songs and variety. Donnie Herron on viola...I'm in. On the opposite end of the Dylan stratosphere, my brother and I met up in Nashville last weekend to catch Old Crow Medicine Show playing Blonde on Blonde in honor of the 50th anniversary of it's recording there. A really great time, the Country Music HOF theatre is a small, 800 seat deal so tough to go wrong from that angle. OCMS has their shtick like anyone, but they are so talented that I would knew they would bring a variety to all the songs, which aren't exactly easy live songs in the first place. It was being video recorded for (hopefully) a proper release, but I see there are a few bootlegs on the Youtube machine. Most start with the concert broadside but there is video eventually. Stuck Inside Of Mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDRHGjqLIw I Want You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAEYwWrEos Visions of Johanna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczLzpsRJP4 And was certainly interested to see how this one was gonna play, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lgf2FJrAA Saturday we were able to check out the Country Music Hall of Fame and their current featured exhibit; Dylan, Cash & the Nashville Cats. Some really great stuff, especially regarding the Nashville studiomen that made those albums..the legendary Joe South, Wayne Moss, Pig Robbins, Charlie McCoy (seriously, check that guy out. Even just for his Dylan contributions..which are diverse and iconic. Two examples, he's the flamenco guitar on Desolation Row and the guy playing both the bass and the trumpet on You Go Your Way.....at the same time). My personal favorite though is drummer Kenny Buttrey. His snare and overall drum sounds make those songs..and maybe even more so on John Wesley Harding. Not to mention Nashville Skyline, Self Portrait...RIP Kenny, you're the man. My only disappointment in touring the hall of fame a second time was that they did not correct the Jimmie Rodgers placard that erroneously cites Blue Yodel #9 (Standing on the Corner) instead of Blue Yodel #8 (Muleskinner...ahem..Blues), despite the curator responding to my queries two years ago and acknowledging the error. I mean, if that's not a priority, I don't know what kind of joint they're running around there. Thanks alot Obama. Haha anyways, sorry for the (off-topic) novel...again. On topic (sorta), for some reason listening to the 5/1 Terrapin made me wonder what people think is the best late-period Terrapin? I think of 3/15 and 3/30 from the 1990 releases, something about the MIDI works for me there. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Take it easy but take it.

The filler dates are 4 tracks. The filler is on disk 1, so the 2nd set doesn't get cut, it is the 1st set that is short of time. The January 1968 4 track filler also goes with the bonus disk. The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows; Viola Lee Blues - 1/23/68, Seattle Good Morning Little Schoolgirl - 1/20/68, Eureka New Potato Caboose - 1/30/68, Eugene Dark Star> - 1/23/68, Seattle China Cat Sunflower> - 1/23/68, Seattle The Eleven - 1/23/68, Seattle Turn On Your Lovelight - 1/23/68, Seattle

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All 22 versions of The Music Never Stopped in 1978 closed set one. Here's my new post on more unusual versions of TMNS. Never Stop http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-music-never-stopped-sec…

Depending on my mood i will usually listen to it. After a couple minutes it's pretty nice to zone out to (or sooth your bones on a long drive). Plus one of my sons is really into it so i usually leave it on. I'm not a huge space fan - i usually skip to the last few min so i can hear the hints of whatever song they eventually start to play...

when listening to post 1983 versions I like to "fold" them on top of each other, like Grey Folded. Take the total time of the 2 combined tracks and cut it halfway through and crossfade Space over the Drums. This of course only works on the post Rhythm Devils once Bill and Mickey got midi. I works really well on the post Brent years and some of the synchronicities are cool. If I didn't tell you it was folded, you would never be able to tell except by the time. You hear both tracks, but simultaneously, so any ideas or themes in either the drums or space is played out, just not in the original sequence.

....would chime in on New Dylan Release Day, and he did not disappoint. Haven't gotten it yet, but if you believe reviews, Amazon customers are bashing it. Whatever....By now, I assume you've gotten to the post drumz part of the Arrowhead show. That's where the magic lies....you and Chris Grand should meet up. I mean, Louisiana isn't THAT big....

Happy Friday sir. You are on point as usual, from what I've gathered in my short time here..everyone's kin in Louisiana. Haha. Actually on that tip, just finished the Huey Long biography by T. Harry Williams. The Kingfish...not to be confused with Bobby Weir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgGVlS1eUY I hadn't checked Amazon yet on Fallen Angels, but I can understand a mediocre rating from the general masses. First listen, it has it's highlights and an overall different vibe than Shadows, but especially as the second go-round in the Great American Songbook covers... I can see how that one could have stood alone as a highlight and weird aberration (if you can single out such a thing for Dylan) but a second wears thin for folks. Definitely liked it and loved about 3 of the songs on first pass, but I can understand. It's not going to be the next Love & Theft. On Arrowhead, actually I got derailed as I stopped to see if the basketball game was on.. Apparently they're skipping tonight, but crossed The Shining on AMC...I've read the book but never actually saw the movie. Just realized all of a sudden I had been sitting there for about a half an hour, that was strange. Words of wisdom, Lloyd...words, of, wisdom.

....that http address had vguy mixed in it....The Shining. Love the book and movie. Twin girls make me double take to this day....

@Muleskinner - Sometime later this year Fandango is going to show this at your local theatre. If you have never seen it, shut off the tv now and wait for the big screen version. It will scare the bejesus out of you! Rock on

Re: redruM What a classic. Here's Johnny(361) :D

....I'm channel surfing. Come across Twister. Another good movie imo. I hang out and watch for a bit. The last F4 tornado encroaches a drive in movie theater. (remember those? I sure as hell do.) Anyway, what movie is showing on that huge outdoor screen as that monster storm decides to tear shit up? You guessed it. The Shining. Mind-fucking-blown. I rest my case....

The irony is that they played Xanadu in its entirety last tour. Kayak do you know if the filler is two track or multitrack? Just got to Red Rocks on night #2. First time hearing this show, and it's every bit as good as folks have described. A grade above the rest.

icecrmcnkd: True, Peart and the rest of the band pretty much played the same thing every time in concert. Not only that, it wasn't significantly different from the record version. Of course, that was pretty much the norm at the time (the Dead being an obvious exception), but after seeing Geddy and the boys a few times live, I was beginning to question the point in going again...been there, done that. Luckily for me, I waded into the Dead pool, wherein I've been able to float blissfully lo these past 2 decades or so. Nonetheless, I do find it funny that I seem to find myself discussing Rush on these GD boards more often than I would ever have thought. But then, maybe there's more common ground between the two bands than I previously appreciated. Witness, for example, Peart's lyrics from the very excellent Entre Nous (Permanent Waves): Just between us I think it's time for us to realize The spaces in between Leave room for you and I to grow So, for those that love Drums > Space, I say more power to you... I didn't mean to offend by posting my own personal take on that piece of the Dead experience. I hope none was taken. ~Q

....there have been much, much worse posted here. That was a but a fart in a tornado. Now, onto Omaha. Imagine that. The next show I check out is in tornado alley. I can't make this stuff up folks....