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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • greeknik
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    Looks like a very interesting set. Good time for the band. But I'm still waiting for the REAL DEAL: The box sets of TEXAS '72 and WINTERLAND '74 (Oct.)!
  • Tony_is_dead
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    Bold prediction this will sell out after it's been released not sure if a lot alot of people will lay out the $$$ for this set in these hard times...You know they did a lot of 1989 and 1990 releases (a lot of 1990) otherwise they weren't that good although from the 30 tips box set the years they put out shows they were pretty good but I don't think you'll ever see a 1972 release again a whole entire tour..not just a leg...you can't say what will come...I think a lot of us swore we'd see a leg of 1980 shows more spedifically the acoustic/electric sets but my intellect tells me we won't ever see that happen as it would've happened already...unless those tapes haven't surfaced yet maybe someone will clean out their cellar one day and find soundboards...this is a great find this 1978 box set more spedifically the red rocks shows...but we'll see what happens in the future but you can't be unhappy with the progress of releases...we are definitely not hungry for more material but are left wondering what could be next...like the next dave's pick will be...some people already know.
  • lowspark75
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    This is a very exciting box set for several obvious reasons. The legendary Red Rocks show and the implications of lost Betty Boards being returned to the vault. I've never heard any of these July '78 shows, so I'm really into this release. The question will be if I manage to fund a purchase before it's sold out. I definitely agree that a May '77 part 2 would make perfect sense for it's 40th anniversary next year, assuming those tapes can also get or have already been returned. However, I would probably be just as excited to see a 5/9/77 DaP 20 to round off the year. So... whatever. Just keep the hits coming.
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    Last I checked the count of 60s & 70s vs. 80s & 90s last year was Dead even last year. 30 Trips had 17 shows from the 80s & 90s, while the 60s & 70s had 13 in that set (add the four Dave's Picks from last year and you get 17 from the 60s & 70s). There is no problem, just petulant children. 80s/90s beggars - put your bowls away.
  • Jason Wilder
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    I get the complaint about Dave shutting out the 80's/90's (and '66-'68). I share it. But with the Bettys back on board, I'd expect a slew of new '71-'78 stuff. Big tent, legendary type shows. Mickey's last show, the first of the ESP run (2/18/71). Kezar '73. Cornell & Buffalo '77. Summer '76. Fall '73. And Red Rocks '78 belongs in that pantheon. Especially 7/8/78. Point being, a release of 7/8/78 isn't the proper time to complain about the lack of 80's releases. Do that when we have an 'average' show from the '69-'78 era, not a legendary one. Would I like some more '89, '85, '87? Yes. Or even '88/'80? Yes. '66-'68? Yes. Even '91 or '81. ('90 is pretty well represented). But when 7/8/78 comes out, I'm not complaining, I'm celebrating. This is as good as the GD gets.
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    Appreciate the kind words on my recollections. Thanks.....
    A while back I reread some books I have regarding the Dead, and tucked into one book, I found this quote from Jerry "I thought that maybe this idea of transforming principle has something to do with it. Because when we get onstage, what we really want to happen is, we want to be transformed from ordinary players into extraordinary ones, like forces of larger consciousness. And the audience wants to be transformed from whatever ordinary reality they may be, into something a little wider, something that enlarges them. So maybe it's the notion of transformation, seat of the pants shamanism, that has something to do with why the Grateful Dead keeps pulling them in. Maybe that is what keeps the audience coming back for and what keeps it fascinating for us too." So, I still can't recall everything that Jerry and I talked about that February morning almost 4 decades ago, but in a microcosm, it involved that same synergistic effect; I was so excited to talk to him, Jerry became jazzed to talk about art and symbols/mysticism (probably a break for him having to talk about the Dead & music, etc.), and while sharing our conversation, our interaction took on its own power. It took on it's own moment. I think that is what it was like when we joined with the Dead at those shows, their pouring out this unfathomable energy in that moment. And us in the audience rising in response with our collective surge pushing energy back to the Dead, which then propelled them to greater heights of aural adventure. Maybe I am just rambling on,.. but you know that the Grateful Dead did often get that 'dragon' off the ground, and into flight, with us all then levitating in the Dead's tow/draft. We were part that remarkable mixture of music + magic + visuals + adventure = alchemy. Then as we would watch/listen, with our mouths agape, as each of the Dead would tease, the improvisation, their 'call and response', Jerry's cascading leads ('catch me if you can'), Bobby's shimmering rhythm guitar, Phil's bass runs/bombs (that changed the very atmospheric pressure), Keith's keyboard interplay, Billy and Mickey's primal percussion then mutating into complex and compelling syncopation, urging and propelling the band further... and the bard Hunter's lyrics, that poetry, those revelations,...that song...and we would roar and exhort the Dead and pour that fervor into our tribal stomp and collective howl. And suddenly the moment slows and extends and everything becomes quite still, and that voice "nothing you can hold for very long..." .....And then all of us stumble out into that crystalline cool evening. Sad eyes, heads shaking, and smiles which alternated between satiation and longing for more. The truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
  • Vguy72
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    That 7.7 pre-drumz list....
    ....sounds interesting. Cold Rain, BIODTL, Scarlet -> Fire, Dancin -> Drumz. Had to read that twice before I got it....
  • Shafts Of Lavender
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    I'm real excited for this release and pre-ordered immediately. I'm most looking forward to the 7/1 show, I wonder how the country fans reacted to Terrapin. I think this will be the only box set of the year despite the curiously early release date because people are still recovering from the massively expensive (and massively great) year 2015 was. The last digital 30 trips release just barely sold out and in one of Dave's earlier chats this year he said it wouldnt be an overwhelming year box set wise. That being said, I'd be all in for a fall box set....
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    No wilfredtjones, not in Omaha, it was that 77-78 NYE show in
    San Francisco at the Winterland, where I gifted the 'dragon' to Jerry. And then a month or so later I got to talk with him after that monster Madison Show (February of 78). Omaha was that summer. If I could repeat myself for those who haven't heard this before (my 3 sons are groaning loudly, they have heard this tale so many times), but here he (I) goes again.....many years ago, in a galaxy far far away, called Nebraska........ Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open so hard that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coax this old hall to dance with us all. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw it. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle by the beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall to the stage. They put spotlights on him as he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much and the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage and then to the explosion of Sugar Mag, complete with dropping balloons and babies girl and boy New Years dancing at the each edge of the stage. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! If you pull up 'YouTube', NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' and clued me into it. From then on my 3 sons knew I wasn't bullshittin' because I showed it to them! Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to another road trip to Madison, Wisc. on 2-3-78. The Dead were on a roll and it was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and snow to start and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel (if I recall correctly). Disparage 1978 at your own risk. I was at Windterland and other shows in 1977 and still treasure those 78 shows I was lucky enough to attend. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and retorted "we didn't ask him to come" and looked at me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then came to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes' and then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. See furthur down the thread for my account of these shows when Jerry did bring the boys back to NE (after KC and St. Paul) and then their (and my) maiden voyage at Red Rocks. I don't recall if I ever shared that Bob Weir had taken to wearing a full-head Werewolf mask when the band came out to encore with Werewolves of London. I remember seeing that mask in Chicago, and several other 1978 shows, St. Paul? Red Rocks? It was hilarious as he struggled to see/play/sing and the other guys goofing off him (Kinda like the boys in masks playing Big Boss Man cica 1972 in Europe). Not easy to do, but he was a pretty funny visual and really got us all into howling 'aaahoooooo' back to the band and Bobby. Hey Deadicated, wasn't Bobby wearing that mask in St. Paul? Didn't someone shoot off a firecracker in the hall during that show? Or maybe I just had a synapse....;o} Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'.. And may you all get those shows you want and/or attended released soon complete with the Plantagenet treatment/process in the near future! This set shows it obviously CAN happen. I am taken aback. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
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    I've never met anybody. Once walking in NYC with a group, everyone turned around looking and I was like, "what?",,, everybody was that was Dave Winfield. I think that was the name big baseball player in the day. Walked right past him, never saw him. Closest I've ever came to meeting a celeb.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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The good Doctor will take care of that - Dr.Rhino@rhino.com. I had two problems in the last 2 years that were handled straight up, prompt and professional. And, allman, you should email the Dr. about the missing disc.
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....thanks bluecrow. The second set of St. Paul ends on a high, high note. Like one man said, Scarlet is outstanding. Fire and Dancin average (sorry. My opinion. Average Dead, however, is like saying today's sunset wasn't as good as yesterday's). From drumz on, fasten the seatbelts. Sugar Mags is fantastic. This is why I love the Dead....in your face. Then they steal it. Out-fuckin-standing. Top ten Magnolia here people. Don't miss it!! Incredible sound....no flubs there. Wow!!....
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....and jumped Omaha for the second set of the first Red Rocks show, cause that Cold Rain, BIODTL, Scarlet-> Fire sounded so tempting for so long, I couldn't resist. Digging Jerry's vox in Cold Rain....yeah, digging....
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00525 in SE UT yesterday. My first audience tape came via a friend of my youngest brother in '81(?) - it was 7/7/78, the first set and beginning second cutting in the fat groove just before 1st verse of Fire. The tape was in the Wagner lineage - https://archive.org/details/gd1978-07-07.aud.wagner.moore.berger.82931…. To this day I consider this to be one of the finest audience captures I have ever heard. You are there in Red Rocks and the band is killing it - every note of that tape in my DNA. And of course most everybody knows the next night (I'm moving to Australia.) A couple years ago I read Oroboros tale of the Omaha show - checked out the audience on Archive and was amazed. I wanted it released. And i wanted 7/7, and 7/8. an impossible dream, tapes missing. And now we have the whole freaking tour . . . .
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the 7/7/78 cold rain is the finest there is
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....leading the charge. "Take it easy now." Impressed is an understatement. I may lose some sleep the next few nights....
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Received 11687 on Wednesday. It is a joy to behold.Beautiful packaging,incredible sound,fantastic playing.Even the shipping box is nice.Have only listened to 7/1 and 7/3 but I know the best is yet to come.Thanks for this beauty. These shows are just thrilling.
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When you import CD's into iTunes the track information is never stored on each CD. Instead iTunes compares stuff like number of tracks, length of each track ect with an online database to download the track names. If there is no track info then it's not on the database, you're discs should still play fine. I often find that with Dead releases the track info is sometimes not there, most likely due to the limited. Hope this helps.
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Most of the iTunes entries when you download are not from the mothership, but fellow fans who are the first to download and create the album names and songs for each disc. That's why the album titles are so inconsistent. Depends on who enters the info first is how the disc title is laid out wnd whether a song with a transition has > or -> or ---> or nothing at all. Not sure why it's not provided by the Band or Rhino, but it does not appear to be... Digging first two shows, in fact, getting a second listen or possibly third before moving on. I want to read book and see waterfall before immersing in the Omaha show. Wow Jerry's smoking on guitar solo on 1st JackStraw - getting goosebumps again!
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A new day... feels good. Vguy - I took your advice and put disc2 of DaP18 to mellow to Comes a Time. Now I can open the box today. Friday...mmmm...looking like a prolonged green day here. Family let me know the condo at the beach is open again. I just went the first of April, looks like I am going again on Monday. Waiting till Monday because The Hangout Festival is going on this weekend just a few miles away and the area will be slam packed. So some work, some green day with packing/planning then a fine beer, grilled steak and 78 box this evening. Just a great way to LIVE a Friday! Nitecat - Yep, next order will be going to the business center from which I work. I can trust the manager to accept and guard my deliveries. No more shipping to home on anything I think. Why risk it when the biggest entrepreneurial growth industry is driving by and scooping up packages off of front porches. Hmmmm, little uber driver, little herbal delivery, little package theft. The new sharing economy...
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GFar your Friday plan sounds just exactly perfect as outlined. I'll be right over. Sixtus
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then tell dave vault@dead.net i'm certain he'll appreciate it i'm thru the first three, i thought KC and st paul were more exciting than omaha, but its the energy in the playing of all these shows that makes them special. plus this is the best sounding 2-track i've ever heard i'm saving 7/7 & 7/8 for this weekend, boiling crawfish on the deck and blowing minds
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Come On!!! Maybe some time I can take some folks down to the gulf with me. Imma book reading hop head. But if you like golf, fishing, deep sea or otherwise, or my favorite, bikini watching, then this is the place for you! Oh yea, hope to finish the Robert Monroe autobiography while I am down there. Then, turn my attention to his writings. Coffee and rockin it. Where ere ye Doc?
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Tempted as I am to head over to the gfar/sixtus soiree, I'm heading to New Orleans for some boiled crawfish and the debut of 7/7 ala Senor Grand. We can't get those up North...
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Damn Gary that sounds like just about the perfect friday. It's a beautiful day here in northern NJ. I'm working from home and playing the St. Paul show...really enjoying it and already looking forward to giving it another spin later tonight (really trying to take my time with the whole box, but especially the first 2 shows since i wasn't as familiar with them as i am with the other 3 shows). Hope everyone has a great weekend full of good weather and good music!
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got through the first three tracks on the way to work today. Tennessee has the energy rising up. Jack Straw...got through 2 minutes, but I have to wait until the drive home to hear that. lovin' it. the box it was shipped in was beautiful, too, but it got wrecked when I opened it. the inner contents were in perfect condition.
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Mine arrived on Wed and I'm gonna start with the 3 unreleased Betty boards. Since it is a real shitty day down here on the Gulf, I took a sick day. Got the Espresso machine warmed up and the house is empty so it is time to blast back to the summer of '78 (they were great years). Just out of college and prior to signing on the dotted line for the USAF The box is beautifully designed and so far I'm really impressed with the betty's. It is hard to believe that these were so close to being destroyed. We heads are indeed fortunate to have a second chance. Not everyday you get a second chance Mickey's base drum is competing with the thunder outside, but Jer and the boys are really cookin' in the second Omaha set Estimated thru Iko really rocks DRP out
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Someone posted yesterday about how many box sets were left in inventory... Just curious how folks know. I don't think I've ever seen a How Many Are Left link... : )
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As always, it is an exciting time when a new show you have never heard surfaces. I took the 7/1/78 arrowhead show for a ride yesterday. On paper the show looks kinda short and standard. The first set was good but nothing really stood out as unique to me. I thought maybe this was gonna be one of those solid but not spectacular shows. Then I put on disc 2. Terrapin to start was solid but not perfect, followed by a really good and spacey playing in the band which fed into drums (already)... Again not to sure about what to expect. Out of space the show hit hyper-drive and launched into one of the best Estimated Prophets (IMHO) with Jerry goin' crazy and the energy just kept building as they went into a really, really good Other One. The rest of the second set was just as good... Even Around & Around was a frenetic jam. Excellent listening! Can't wait to hear the other shows.
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Received my 78 box set yesterday. Holy moly, well done! The 78 box set presentation is gorgeous! Loving the lost Betty Boards! Next box set May 77, part II? Keep up the good work!
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Quodlibet, To check the inventory, you just see how many units the store lets you put in your cart. So if the store lets you put 1,500 box sets in your cart, you know there are at least 1,500 left.
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Ahh. That's really clever. I doubt I would ever have thought to try that! Thanks for the inventory explanatory. Now back to my auditory dilatory
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....you know it gdhead77. JiminMD and I have been PMing a bit about how phenomenal that sequence is. The Dead play both types of music. Rock and Roll....
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82 minutes of Drums and Space. E72 drum solos were kind of cool, short interludes that felt like they embellished Dark Star....also dug the early Mickey / Billy drums that were 4-5 minutes long during Cryptical and some other songs...but I'm not crazy about most post-hiatus "Rhythm Devils". It was cool to get up and go to the bathroom, but I'd have been more impressed by 5 minutes of blow your mind fast drumming than what these guys did. With two drummers, they could have done something like Neil Peart circa Exit Stage Left YYZ - now that's a drum solo! I may have left these on the cutting room floor.
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01008 arrived to the badlands of New Mexico. It's gonna be mountain ballet around the fire, under the full moon tonight !
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Minas - I have to say I'm in the same camp. I've never been a fan of the Drums > Space mess, especially the later reallllyyy long versions. IMHO, it just really interrupts the 2nd set flow. I don't know, maybe I just don't get it, but this suite always seemed like a big waste of time. It's one of the reasons I generally avoid the 80's and 90's As to the YYZ solo... So true! Back when I was but a lad, I used to wonder if Neil had 4 arms or something, cuz there was no way one guy could be playing all that. But even more than his solos, I really liked the way he'd add texture to songs with his odd and unique rhythms. You know who else is really technically gifted? The drummer for Dave Matthews' Band. Can't remember his name, but man he's really tight.
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I don't listen to Drumz>Space every time.. but leaving them out would cause other problems. Come to think of it.. I don't listen to Mexicali and US Blues every time either. ..but taking them out would surely piss off somebody. I do usually listen to them the first run through, which is often enjoyable, especially if it was a show I was at. That's my take, leave them in, you can always FF. Every now and then they are other worldly and truly kick ass. A few come to mind... Yea VGuy.. I'm really digging the second set of 7/1. I haven't finished 7/2 and most of the what I have listened to was a distracted listen.., such is life.
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Funny - I always liked the 80's 90's drums space sequences. One of my favorites is from 6/15/85; mellow ambient deliciousness. I do find these 10-20 minute 78 cowbell banging extravaganzas a bit tedious. I also never really cared for those 1970 drum roll contests in the other one suite; just kind of monotonous to my ears. The modern era saw the improv really blossom into something I really liked though.
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This is why trying to satisfy us all never works. I find the short pre-later '80s drums on the whole uninteresting. Space I have always liked. The TTATS box drums/space from about '87 forward, certainly '91 forward, I loved, and were among the highlights of those sets. And I am generally a '68-'78 person. Try the 12/30/90 sequence from Crazy Fingers through Space; the drummers pick up the band's motifs and the band picks up the drummers' rythyms.
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....there is a very easy way to satisfy us all. Keep releasing box sets like this one. Problem solved!!....
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If ya don't like it don't listen to it, but don't leave it out it was the best thing at the shows especially the later years.
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I see it both as a lot of fun and a sometimes lazy way for the band to pad set lengths. in later years space was sometimes unbearable. I remember a show in Seattle (94 or 95) where I was ready to crawl out of my skin because the ongoing dissonance. that said, Drums at those shows (95) were great. but i just let DnS happen. eventually whether I dig it or not, it transitions into something else.
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I understand the 2/14/68 show was recorded on a multi-reel 8 track recorder (i.e. multi-track). Does anyone know if the filler material from several other dates on disc one and the bonus disc are also multi-track? I would think not, but it's also a strange editing decision to break up the flow of the 2/14 show the way they did, by putting filler at the end of disc one, and then getting back to the 2/14 show on disc two.
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I like it and listen to it most of the time.But yeah, they got really long in 94/95. Why? Because there's no lyrics to remember. Usually that was the time for a bathroom break because you didn't want to miss any songs. But, then the bathroom break got shifted to the WTGH/Samba time slot. I was very happy to hear D/S last summer at FTW. Fact is, it's a Dead trademark and I missed it. 84/85 Drums/Space is especially nice. Neil Peart is good but he plays the same thing every show. And because they won't play a complete Xanadu is why I haven't gone since '95. I initially said that in '92 but went again in '95, and was disappointed, so I stopped going again.
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Greetings, heroes. Getting caught up again...love the buzz on the new set and hope everyone is enjoying it. #3262 made it to southeastern Louisiana a day later than expected, but I'm recovering nicely. Very cool presentation, I haven't read all of the book yet and have only just started listening to Arrowhead, so only scratching the surface. I am OK storing box sets on a different shelf than the other CDs, so the DVD cases don't bother me and I love the artwork. Only up to Rhythm Devils on Arrowhead, found some flashes in Jack Straw and Big River, but didn't think things really rolled until Terrapin and Playin'. Made for some good driving today. And how cool is opening for both Waylon / Jessi and Willie? Today is of course also Dylan Day, with the release of Fallen Angels. Just finished the first spin of the LP. Very nice and an interesting compliment to Shadows in the Night. Not going to knock you out like a new album of originals, and it is not very dissimilar in scope from Shadows, but it does have it's own character. More upbeat numbers, more shuffles, and a fantastic version of That Ol' Black Magic on side 2. It is preceeded by Melancholy Mood, which is my other favorite after one listen. Less of a singular mood piece than Shadows, more love songs and variety. Donnie Herron on viola...I'm in. On the opposite end of the Dylan stratosphere, my brother and I met up in Nashville last weekend to catch Old Crow Medicine Show playing Blonde on Blonde in honor of the 50th anniversary of it's recording there. A really great time, the Country Music HOF theatre is a small, 800 seat deal so tough to go wrong from that angle. OCMS has their shtick like anyone, but they are so talented that I would knew they would bring a variety to all the songs, which aren't exactly easy live songs in the first place. It was being video recorded for (hopefully) a proper release, but I see there are a few bootlegs on the Youtube machine. Most start with the concert broadside but there is video eventually. Stuck Inside Of Mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDRHGjqLIw I Want You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAEYwWrEos Visions of Johanna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczLzpsRJP4 And was certainly interested to see how this one was gonna play, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lgf2FJrAA Saturday we were able to check out the Country Music Hall of Fame and their current featured exhibit; Dylan, Cash & the Nashville Cats. Some really great stuff, especially regarding the Nashville studiomen that made those albums..the legendary Joe South, Wayne Moss, Pig Robbins, Charlie McCoy (seriously, check that guy out. Even just for his Dylan contributions..which are diverse and iconic. Two examples, he's the flamenco guitar on Desolation Row and the guy playing both the bass and the trumpet on You Go Your Way.....at the same time). My personal favorite though is drummer Kenny Buttrey. His snare and overall drum sounds make those songs..and maybe even more so on John Wesley Harding. Not to mention Nashville Skyline, Self Portrait...RIP Kenny, you're the man. My only disappointment in touring the hall of fame a second time was that they did not correct the Jimmie Rodgers placard that erroneously cites Blue Yodel #9 (Standing on the Corner) instead of Blue Yodel #8 (Muleskinner...ahem..Blues), despite the curator responding to my queries two years ago and acknowledging the error. I mean, if that's not a priority, I don't know what kind of joint they're running around there. Thanks alot Obama. Haha anyways, sorry for the (off-topic) novel...again. On topic (sorta), for some reason listening to the 5/1 Terrapin made me wonder what people think is the best late-period Terrapin? I think of 3/15 and 3/30 from the 1990 releases, something about the MIDI works for me there. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Take it easy but take it.
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The filler dates are 4 tracks. The filler is on disk 1, so the 2nd set doesn't get cut, it is the 1st set that is short of time. The January 1968 4 track filler also goes with the bonus disk. The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows; Viola Lee Blues - 1/23/68, Seattle Good Morning Little Schoolgirl - 1/20/68, Eureka New Potato Caboose - 1/30/68, Eugene Dark Star> - 1/23/68, Seattle China Cat Sunflower> - 1/23/68, Seattle The Eleven - 1/23/68, Seattle Turn On Your Lovelight - 1/23/68, Seattle
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Depending on my mood i will usually listen to it. After a couple minutes it's pretty nice to zone out to (or sooth your bones on a long drive). Plus one of my sons is really into it so i usually leave it on. I'm not a huge space fan - i usually skip to the last few min so i can hear the hints of whatever song they eventually start to play...
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when listening to post 1983 versions I like to "fold" them on top of each other, like Grey Folded. Take the total time of the 2 combined tracks and cut it halfway through and crossfade Space over the Drums. This of course only works on the post Rhythm Devils once Bill and Mickey got midi. I works really well on the post Brent years and some of the synchronicities are cool. If I didn't tell you it was folded, you would never be able to tell except by the time. You hear both tracks, but simultaneously, so any ideas or themes in either the drums or space is played out, just not in the original sequence.
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....would chime in on New Dylan Release Day, and he did not disappoint. Haven't gotten it yet, but if you believe reviews, Amazon customers are bashing it. Whatever....By now, I assume you've gotten to the post drumz part of the Arrowhead show. That's where the magic lies....you and Chris Grand should meet up. I mean, Louisiana isn't THAT big....
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Happy Friday sir. You are on point as usual, from what I've gathered in my short time here..everyone's kin in Louisiana. Haha. Actually on that tip, just finished the Huey Long biography by T. Harry Williams. The Kingfish...not to be confused with Bobby Weir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgGVlS1eUY I hadn't checked Amazon yet on Fallen Angels, but I can understand a mediocre rating from the general masses. First listen, it has it's highlights and an overall different vibe than Shadows, but especially as the second go-round in the Great American Songbook covers... I can see how that one could have stood alone as a highlight and weird aberration (if you can single out such a thing for Dylan) but a second wears thin for folks. Definitely liked it and loved about 3 of the songs on first pass, but I can understand. It's not going to be the next Love & Theft. On Arrowhead, actually I got derailed as I stopped to see if the basketball game was on.. Apparently they're skipping tonight, but crossed The Shining on AMC...I've read the book but never actually saw the movie. Just realized all of a sudden I had been sitting there for about a half an hour, that was strange. Words of wisdom, Lloyd...words, of, wisdom.
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....that http address had vguy mixed in it....The Shining. Love the book and movie. Twin girls make me double take to this day....
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@Muleskinner - Sometime later this year Fandango is going to show this at your local theatre. If you have never seen it, shut off the tv now and wait for the big screen version. It will scare the bejesus out of you! Rock on
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Re: redruM What a classic. Here's Johnny(361) :D
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....I'm channel surfing. Come across Twister. Another good movie imo. I hang out and watch for a bit. The last F4 tornado encroaches a drive in movie theater. (remember those? I sure as hell do.) Anyway, what movie is showing on that huge outdoor screen as that monster storm decides to tear shit up? You guessed it. The Shining. Mind-fucking-blown. I rest my case....
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The irony is that they played Xanadu in its entirety last tour. Kayak do you know if the filler is two track or multitrack? Just got to Red Rocks on night #2. First time hearing this show, and it's every bit as good as folks have described. A grade above the rest.
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icecrmcnkd: True, Peart and the rest of the band pretty much played the same thing every time in concert. Not only that, it wasn't significantly different from the record version. Of course, that was pretty much the norm at the time (the Dead being an obvious exception), but after seeing Geddy and the boys a few times live, I was beginning to question the point in going again...been there, done that. Luckily for me, I waded into the Dead pool, wherein I've been able to float blissfully lo these past 2 decades or so. Nonetheless, I do find it funny that I seem to find myself discussing Rush on these GD boards more often than I would ever have thought. But then, maybe there's more common ground between the two bands than I previously appreciated. Witness, for example, Peart's lyrics from the very excellent Entre Nous (Permanent Waves): Just between us I think it's time for us to realize The spaces in between Leave room for you and I to grow So, for those that love Drums > Space, I say more power to you... I didn't mean to offend by posting my own personal take on that piece of the Dead experience. I hope none was taken. ~Q
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....there have been much, much worse posted here. That was a but a fart in a tornado. Now, onto Omaha. Imagine that. The next show I check out is in tornado alley. I can't make this stuff up folks....
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