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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    What peaked in ’78 – now that’s a worthy discussion. Yeah, ’78 is interesting, isn’t it. The set lists are damn close to ’77, at least until you get to the Fall, with the Shakedown Street material. Well, I guess as a starting point, I’ll go with the songs in the set lists for this here July 1978: The Complete Recordings box set (I love the sound of it, drooling here just talking about it). At least the tracks that I think had some notable moments in 1978: Bertha – kinda sort of peaked, at least as far as post-hiatus performances go. I like it best in 1972, as I do most of those older tunes. Veneta is probably my favorite, and most of the E72 versions are in the same ballpark. Like a lot of songs, it kind of mellowed in the ’74 versions (or at least it sounds mellow in the recordings we now have of it). Post-hiatus though, I like the 1978 versions best, as Jerry started delivering a biting, aggressive solo, and the Wolf’s sharp mid-range tone makes this one a rocker again. So maybe it didn’t “peak” in ’78 per se, but it returned to the forefront as a rocker. The Spring ’77 versions are just ok to me – they seem to be tame compared to what they would become in ’78. DaP 12 (Alright Hamilton!) and DP 10 in late ’77 start to pick up the aggression again, and then DP 18 and DaP 15 (Sleeper of ’78) are hot, as far as official releases, and 1/30 is hot on the soundboards. From Egypt With Love has a decent Bertha. I’d be remiss in my post-hiatus Bertha coverage if I didn’t mention DP 20, which has Keith in “rolling thunder” mode on the piano – love it. Cassidy – this is one of my favorite Bobby tunes, and it seemed to get better every year they played it, culminating in my favorite performance from DaP 7, 4/24/78 (Return To Normal with the Grateful Dead). Other great April versions are 4/10 at the Fox and 4/16 in Huntington, WV. I also enjoy DP 25 and 30 Trips ’78. What makes 1978 great: smooth and tight every time; Jerry’s solos step up from “feeling around” to “command and control”; Keith’s piano accompaniment has largely migrated from rhythmic chords to improvisational melodies (particularly during the Fare Thee Be Well Now arrangement); the outro jam section after FTBWN is smoother, longer and faster, with Jerry leading the charge for several more bars than earlier versions; but here’s where it really kicks ass time and again - Bobby & Donna have mastered the song as a vocal duet by 1978, and their timing and harmony is precise – really just beautiful every time. There are some great ’77 versions as well, but I think ’78 is when they peaked and the song reached its fullest potential. Estimated Prophet – The Jerry solo that takes hold around 3:45 or so and only in 1978 goes on for a minute and forty seconds typically, I think as long as two minutes on one of the soundboards I have. I also like the back-to-basics electric piano sound Keith employs, and the Dick’s Picks 18 mix is my favorite. But the outro jam also goes on and on in ’78, and the song times in at the 12 – 15 range, where it was only ranging from 8 – 11 minutes in ’77. Longer = better in Dead Land. The Music Never Stopped – The jam at 3:45 or so also goes on for two minutes, not so unlike Estimated Prophet. And it’s a great arrangement that they began developing in late ’77, coming to a face melting climax on DaP 7 (Return to Normal with the Grateful Dead) and DP 18. Donna also perfected her delivery of this one to its utmost in 1978. Just listen to her deliver some of these lines like “There’s a band out on the highway” and “Greet the morning air with song” – it’s fantastic, and it got much better with each year. Similar to Cassidy, she and Bobby reach a synchronicity with the co-delivery of the vocals on this one that is better and better with each tour. And then there’s the ending jam to this one, which also reaches its peak in ’78. I enjoy a lot of ’77 versions too, but it’s ’78 where all of this Dead things come together. Franklin’s Tower – what?? WHAT??? Ok, I enjoy the Holy Trinity as much as the next Dead Head, and it’s a damn shame they don’t play it in 1978 – or is it? Take a listen to 4/10/78 out of Stella Blue or 1/30/78 out of Drums. 4/10 is nearly flawless and it goes places that no former version went; 1/30 has an audience patch for just about 30 seconds before the vocals, and there are some missed lines by Jerry, but the music is all balls. Those two clock in at 13:37 and 17:09, so you’re getting your money’s worth. They really rocked this song up a notch in ’78, and while I’ll be the first to admit, this song fell victim to the ’78 sloppies at times, but they really hit the ball out of the park on a few of these, and unfortunately, you wouldn’t know it unless you’re a soundboard collector, as there are no officially release 1978 versions of Franklin’s Tower….until we get our dirty filthy hands on the July 1978 Complete Recordings box set in two months. I have not listened to the Red Rocks version, but I’m praying it’s even better than the couple I mentioned. I admit, it’s a new love affair for me, Franklin’s Tower circa ’78, so it will be interesting to see if I change my mind after revisiting ’76 and ’77. I’m massively disappointed that the new Dave’s Picks shows from ’76 do not have a version, but Red Rocks may quench that fire, we’ll see. Deal – I prefer the one drummer versions, especially the 1972 renditions, so like Bertha, I think the real peak is ’72; but for post-hiatus, ’78 is where Donna goes off the hook, don’t you let that deEEAAL go down style ending. I like it. Terrapin Station – I’m not sure. There are some extended passages in the Closing of Winterland version that I really like, but I don’t have enough ’78 Terrapin yet. We’ll say “possibly peaked in ‘78” on this one, and revisit after the box release. The ’77 versions are almost all perfect, but there’s something about that Winterland 12/31/78 version that grabs me, and while it’s my favorite version, I’m not sure that it’s consistent across ’78, and therefore worthy of saying it peaked. The Other One - for post-hiatus versions, it peaked in ’78 for sure. One listen to Dick’s Picks 18 and From Egypt with Love ought to firm that up. Wharf Rat – again, ’72 is the year if I had to pick one year, but it definitely had a revival in ’78 that made ’78 the king of post-hiatus Wharf Rat. Some good ’77 versions, but I think the Wolf brings out those spacey opening chords like I need to hear them, and the outro jam is hot hot hot (especially 4/22/78, the Sleeper of ’78) The Wheel – need more ’78 versions! But nothing comes close to Dick’s Picks 18, and the Wolf is largely the reason once again. I admit, I’m banking it all on this one version, but it’s that much better: the dreamy magic carpet ride that Jerry and Keith take you on for the first minute before the chorus kicks in is sublime, face melting, Deadness. And this song is to Jerry and Donna what Cassidy is to Bobby and Donna by ’78 – a masterful duet. ’76 had those drum intros that completely change the mood, and not for the good, which is presumably why Jerry did away with it in lieu of the guitar intro. ’76 did have a couple of long running jams at the tail end (30 Trips ’76 & So Many Roads), and you don’t get that from Dick’s Picks 18, but it’s not really The Wheel at that point anyway, so no need to feel like you’re missing that if go with ’78 for the desert island – simply cut the ends off of those versions and call them Jam. DaP 1 and DP 29 are two great ’77 versions that come close to the 2/3/78 gold standard that is DP 18, but not quite there. If you’re not familiar, put it on loud and maybe turn up the treble. Who Are You – never sounded better than ’78, except maybe that blistering live version from MSG after 9/11. Townshend’s guitar was on 11 with some extra cowbell that night. But outside of that live performance, the studio version right on Who Are You is the only place you need to……wait a minute…..
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    ...with a psychedelic-painted face nonchalantly hooked her arm through mine...on a city street in Atlanta, GA in 1973. "Wanna see Zappa?" she asked. I knew Frank existed, but had never seen him live. "Sure," I said. "Here," she said, "swallow this." (Stupidly trustful?) I swallowed it...and followed her to the Fox Theater. She neither had nor showed a ticket. She eyed some guy at the door, who let us both in. On we walked...and walked...down the center aisle...and sat in the first row. Then Frank came out...with Napoleon Murphy Brock, George Duke and the rest. This was the greatest concert I ever saw. Frank was standing right in front of me...and he seemed 10 feet tall. The highlight was "Dog Breath," if you know the song, it starts out with 3 chords: hit hard four times...then five chords: pow pow pow pow pow! It was during those transcendent chords that I actually had the feeling of leaving my body...with no sense of panic. When the concert ended, the entire audience IMMEDIATELY stood up as one and demanded an encore that could not be denied...or forgotten!
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    Yes, to 3/21 and 3/22! We definitely got the 2 best shows as complete ones, as well as the rest of the jams on the bonus discs, but I bet if those shows were recovered today, it would have been box set treatment. I was recently fortunate enough to score the Rockin' The Rhein AOM Bonus Disc as well as New Year's Eve At Winterland. I can't get enough of the AOM one. It truly is a One Disc Wonder, perhaps the best example of one. What are some other ODWs? Of the top of my head, DP16 Disc 2 is a the one that gives AOM Bonus a run for it's money.
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    Yes, to 3/21 and 3/22! We definitely got the 2 best shows as complete ones, as well as the rest of the jams on the bonus discs, but I bet if those shows were recovered today, it would have been box set treatment. I was recently fortunate enough to score the Rockin' The Rhein AOM Bonus Disc as well as New Year's Eve At Winterland. I can't get enough of the AOM one. It truly is a One Disc Wonder, perhaps the best example of one. What are some other ODWs? Of the top of my head, DP16 Disc 2 is a the one that gives AOM Bonus a run for it's money.
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    Groovin to 3/22/72. this AOM run is freakin awesome! Should have been a box set somehow! 3/21 is a really good show also! The PITB absolutely smokes! Great all around! ;)
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    I teach history, and I'm from Kansas City originally - I've seen many a Chiefs game at Arrowhead. Thus, I feel compelled to add some historic context for the July 1 Arrowhead show. Enjoy. Video: The band Missouri playing "Hold Me" at Arrowhead 7/1/78. Some great crowd/stadium footage (good performance too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3uHya-Mc8U Poster: http://www.postertrip.com/members/images/3566a.jpg From "The History of Willie Nelson's Fourth of July Picnics": Willie played concerts at the Austin Opry House on July 4 and 5, billing both shows as Picnics. He also played a July 2 show at Texxas Jam in Dallas and a July 1 show in Kansas City, Mo. The traditional Picnic was still cooling its heels when Willie suggested having one at the Opry House to manager Tim O'Connor, and it proved to be a welcome respite from the heat and lawsuits. A few days earlier in Dallas, 25,000 didn't quite pack the Cotton Bowl ... and Willie admitted it just wasn't the same: "It's too controlled," he told the Washington Post. "I liked it better when it was out in the pasture." The July 1 event in Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City was billed as a "Fourth of July Picnic," but is notable because the short lineup included the Grateful Dead. "We didn't have an outdoor location, and it was at a time when we had to kind of stay out of Texas. ... It was two nights and it was the coolest Picnic we ever had," said Tim O'Connor of the indoor mini-Picnics in a 1987 interview with the Statesman. http://stillisstillmoving.com/willienelson/the-history-of-willie-nelson…
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    As much as I've agreed with almost all of the bands listed so far, it is, in the end, a truly subjective exercise and primarily a function of personal taste. That said, I'd add the following American artists, who I don't recall seeing posted, as not only great, but important and influential (if overlooked in some cases). The Blasters Captain Beefheart Dispatch/State Radio Dylan Johnny Cash Galactic Hot Tuna Patti Smith Television Tom Waits Muddy Waters Chris Whitley Johnny Winter Wilco No doubt many others...to each his own.
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    Thanks for mentioning Tool! I have loved them for a long time. A Perfect Circle, Maynard's side project band is also a favorite. I will always listen to the bands I loved when I was 19 years old. PJ Harvey Jane's Addiction Nine Inch Nails Ministry Depeche Mode The Smiths Joy Division All the Seattle Bands of the early 90's. Red Hot Chili Peppers 311 Metallica Just to name a few....
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    A classic show with a classic lineup of the Mothers. It's the 50the anniversary of Freak Out in June and I've been going back through his catalog since January. I find the early stuff difficult to listen to, but the Teen Rock Combo years in the late 70's right to the last tour in 1988 has some amazing live music in circuation.
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    These lists have been great but it's disappointing I haven't seen T00L anywhere on these lists. With all the psychedelics, weird music and fun deadheads like to have it is always a surprise to find so few T00L fans in he dead scene. They even mention the band in a song of theirs, while it is rather tongue in cheek nonetheless it's there :) Seriously, start seeing them live and save some paper from Dead tour to take with you. Pleases and thank yous. Other notables not on a list yet and I'm sticking with rock (mostly) only too in an effort to be expedient. Kyuss Converge Heavy Blanket Voyag3r Dillinger escape plan Brian Jonestown Massacre Sleep The New Deal Nightmares on wax Morphine Das Muerte Faith No more Mr. Bungle Buckethead Nevermen
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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If anybody isn't up on it, Maggot Brain is about as great a guitar solo as there is.Supposedly Clinton told Eddie Hazel to imagine his mother had just died, and to play that. The whole song is basically a solo with real minimal framework around it. Great one. And their live show is still great, saw them in Seattle recently, don't miss it if you get the chance.
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Since this is a GD site, these are veeeeerrrrryy special post-it notes. wink wink, nudge nudge. Here you are. glad so many of you know the source. I heard the album for the first time only within the past month. The opening track is sooooo trippy. I had no groove (buh buh, buh buh, _buh_) Still need to listen to the new 7/7 and 7/8. waiting for things to be just exactly perfect.
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I'm also holding off on the two Red Rocks shows, waiting for the right time/setting/headspace.My buddy started playing 7/8 at work yesterday and I turned it off, need to listen to the high end recording the right way first. I loved KC, liked Omaha a lot, St Paul didn't do it for me. The high energy(powder) shows aren't my usual favorites, but can be plain old fun
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I dig it; dancin and stella are sweet. otoh, they did Big River in KC, not StP. shoulda done BR in StP, folks. "Well I met her accidently in St Paul Minnesota" ALSO, reading the booklet the other day...they got rained out in Wisconsin. I did not know that. Since I was living in WI at the time, I would have gone to that show (but they weren't on my radar at that time...between 8th and 9th grade), and of course that would have been my show, rained out. I would have been BUMMED.
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I would think that you've garnered plenty enough good karma to assure a solid trustafarian status in the next life, any more will be icing on the cake. You are one of the kindest souls here.
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I can honestly say the same to you. Most of us are woven from the same cloth, cause no damage (except perhaps to ourselves) and have a little fun when we can.
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I think it's really cool that they still made cover art for the rain out show--that's the stormy cover for the booklet
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You wrote: How the hell did you come up with that connection on DaP1 to Star Wars? Well done. Who cares if you are right. Just awesome. It used to be my least favorite cover of all the releases. After that analogy, it is now my second to last favorite. That bit about it going from least to second from last made me chuckle a sincere LOL - thanks for that.
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I just caught the second set from 5/5/77 on SiriusXM. Can someone remind me why this show has not been released yet? I need to hear that Scarlet again - Phil's bass was making my head spin. Happy Memorial Day Weekend. Ribs - check. Beer - check. Copious amounts of Dead - check. Let the good times roll!!
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It would only stand to reason that, like Cornell, this show is amongst the tapes that went missing when BCJ's storage locker/space was auctioned off. I imagine that whatever the fate of Cornell, so will be the fate of this show.
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I will second the benevolence of Sir Jim... He's a gem.
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I started with the Omaha show because disc one had some of that goo in the disc like with the 30 trips discs. Anyway the disc plays fine. But I am really glad I did. The Omaha Show Is Fantastic. Super glad I got this box.
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As you are clearly one of the most worthy contributors on this site, I am glad I was able to do a little something to brighten your day. Happy that you picked up on it. I guess the "pieces of flair" reference went unnoticed or it just wasn't that funny. Most likely the latter. My, aren't we all feeling benevolent today with kind words. As such, I'll also tip my bonnet to Jim in MD. One of the cooler dudes out there. Enjoy the long weekend with your new music all.
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To your wondering, I favor 7/3 (St. Paul) over 7/5 (Omaha). I believe I read (Compendium?) that the 7/5 was consistently good, but I found it uneven and the energy on 7/3 more consistent. These shows are such a mix of factors -- setlist, set and setting for listening, etc -- that apples to apples comparisons are difficult. I thought the first set, 7/3, built more momentum with Cassidy, Deal>Music Never Stops than on 7/5 and that good ole' Bobby's slide was less obtrusive on 7/3. But I'd be hard pressed to choose one second set over the other. 7/3 perhaps more cohesive, 7/5 perhaps more complex and off the rails? Also saving 7/7 and 7/8 for a communal listening party, crazy-making celebration. Hell, it's been nearly 40 yrs since the Purple Dragon hit town. I can wait another 2-3 weeks for the flashbacks...
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Man! I'm really digging 7/5/78. What an awesome Estimated>Eyes. I like a little punch in my Eyes every so often...
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A fine performance indeed. I forgot my name during that epic Estimated, and almost pissed myself. Must be that damn plate in my head...
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I have been surprised to see a couple of requests for more shows featuring Pigpen on this site recently. Well, the time he was with them was brilliant-but that was surely despite his presence rather than because of it. The rot was evident on the first album, with the abominable Good Morning Little Schoolgirl, a deeply offensive song, that in Pigpens hands celebrates male adult harassment of schoolgirls. As they detoured into more psychedelic territory, his role diminished. The success of Lovelight depended on the bands bob and weave-not Pigpens sexist rants. Unfortunately, by 1971, the psychedelic era was over, and Pig resumed a higher level of control. Parts of Spring 1971 are great, as the band played with stealth and economy and finally did justice both to the songs on Workingmans Dead and American Beauty and to their country heritage. Even the shorter Pigpen songs are good-specifically hard To Handle. But the Pig raps, particularly on Good Lovin' and Lovelight defy belief. Unbelievably, Nick Meriwether, surely one of the most thoughtful and insightful chroniclers of the bands history, plays homage to the rap on the 17/4/71 in The Deadheads Taping Compendium volume 1. He even going so far as to quote the offensive content of the song-Good Lovin'. Its a good piece of writing, and I am sure the band played admirably-but contents of that rap are an insult.Never one to underplay his hand, in the same book, John Dwork incredibly writes out the entire monologue featured in the middle of the Caution-Good lovin'jam from 14/4/72. Maybe you had to have been there. Unless you were a female of course. It has often been said that Deadheads believed that it was okay to enjoy yourself, so long as you didn't hurt anyone else. This was obviously beyond Pigpen, and that he was allowed to get away with it is one of the few real blips in taste in the bands career. It seriously harms the credibility of both the band and The Deadheads that these raps haven't been denounced for what they are before now. The new 1978 box is brilliant, by the way!
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sexist raps were his stock and trade. That said, Cautions are always welcome, as well as Hard to Handles. Pigpen is part of the band's lore. Doesn't mean I have to like his stuff every time. I have never been a big fan of Lovelight. The Dave's Picks 12/20/69 has him saying something like "(engage in intercourse) until her legs turn red". Bruh.
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First Donna's shrieks. Then Bob's slide guitar. Now Pig's lyrics. Not to mention Brent's toy piano. Let's not forget that every member contributed In a way that they felt moved the music forward. Yeah it didn't always work, but at least commend them for the effort. Otherwise the band would have become monotonous. Besides, have you ever listened to the rap bullshit that is produced today? Way worse that anything Pig uttered. Lighten up and go get your coals started. Then go watch Christmas Vacation with Bach until the grill is ready.
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That's a slightly revisionist rant; context was very different 50 years ago. I take it you don't listen to a lot of old Blues.
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They should not be judged by the moralistic and politically correct norms of the 21st century. The pig was just great, a top class showman in his time, which was around 50 years ago. If everything in history was judged by today's conservative standards nobody would have any idea what earlier times were really like. And bring on more Pigpen releases!
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They've found us.
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if the song is "a deeply offensive song, that in Pigpens hands celebrates male adult harassment of schoolgirls", or is it a declaration of unrequited love by one schoolboy to another schoolgirl: Good morning little schoolgirl Can I come home with you? Tell your mama and your papa I'm a little schoolboy too. Come on now pretty baby I just can't help myself You're so young and pretty I don't need nobody else Good morning little schoolgirl Can I come home with you? Don't you hear me crying? Oww hey ooee I'm gonna leave you baby About the break of day On account of the way you treat me I got to stay away Come on now pretty baby Darling come on home You know I love you baby I got to get you all alone Good morning little schoolgirl Can I come home with you? Can't you hear me crying? Oww hey ooee I'm gonna buy me an airplane Fly all over your town Tell everybody baby Lord, know you're fine Come on now pretty baby Now, I just can't help myself You're so… Full lyrics on Google Play
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The Louvre is full of completely nude sculptures of both men and women, hundreds of years old. Try to explain to your eight year old daughter why that is art. It also has the Mona Lisa. Guess what. When you purchase a ticket, you get to see both and can decide for yourself what you like. If you don't like it. Don't listen.
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It was a different time back then and he was singing old blues songs.Was his singing back then any worse than anything Jim Morrison was saying/doing? Pigpen was more of a Hell's Angel than a hippie. Watched 6-21-71 at the Funky Chateau last night. That was interesting, wish the whole show was available.
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(gotta love the internet) An old blues tune covered by many many artists over the years, including Muddy Waters, Junior Wells, the Yardbirds, Eric Clapton, Ten Years After, Grateful Dead, Rod Stewart, Taj Mahal, Allman Bros (including at their final show), and more recently by Johnny Lang, Derek Trucks, Gov't Mule, Widespread Panic, etc. But I can see the objection with the reference, similar in some ways to Chuck Berry's 1958 "Sweet Little Sixteen". Both are tunes from eras where boundaries are being pushed with references to sex, drugs, etc. Not one of my favorite covers by the Dead, but from that Pigpen era and it reflected one of the many old blues tunes the Dead covered and that Pig used to push that sexual edge and his 'rap'. Pigpen is an original and was deeply influenced by the blues. Don't like it, skip it. There is much to like (and dislike, as has been described) with the different eras with the boys. "The truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step."
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Of all the "Good Morning Little School Girl"s you list, my favorite would have to be the "Ten Years After" version, from that truly stellar album: "Ssssh." My memories of that album are most fond, from the authentically spaced-out cover art to ALL the songs...it was, for me, the first album I ever heard in which amazing guitar work really knocked me out; it was, as well, the very first album I listened to wherein a certain herb was involved. AH, youthful memories.
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Saw them a few times at various UK festivals in the early '70s. Their version of "Good morning little schoolgirl" was probably the first version I heard, live at least. Alvin Lee, whilst not given much acclaim as a guitar great at the time, was certainly renowned as the fastest guitarist on the planet (or at least the British part of the planet). My brother had their albums up to 1971's "A space in time". "Ssssh" was probably their best recorded effort. "I'm going home" was their live tour-de-force and was an impressive showcase for Alvin's lightning fast playing. A rather forgotten classic British band of that era.
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Who didn't cover, but composed Mexicali Blues with Barlow in 1972. "So instead I grabbed a bottle and a girl who's just fourteen." Should he go too?
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Thanks for all the responses. I have loads of thoughts on reading them-but a few of them are-Its not conservative or politically correct to be anti sexist. Its conservative to stick too the values of the past, even when they are evidently redundant. I have heard loads of original blues songs. I couldn't believe how powerful they were after having heard the copies by white bands first. I don't like a lot of what I hear in blues songs, but its the real thing. When you listen to someone like Robert Johnson, its hard to imagine the world he came from, and the culture he was singing from within. Light years away from the privileged world of white Californian rock musicians. And the power of those originals compared to the copies. The first time I heard Smokestack Lightning was on the live Dead album from the Fillmore East 1970. I just thought it was a weak song. In the mid 1980s I heard the original recording by Howlin' Wolf. Wow...so THATS what the blues is all about!- I thought. Not Pigpen or whoever-Jim Morrison was as bad when he did them. You cant fake the real thing. They were all barking up the wrong tree even trying. Having said all that-Death Don't Have No Mercy as played the Dead is truly spine tingling. So different from the original. Sung by Jerry, too. Ironically, as he rarely sang blues with The Dead, he was easily the best at it.
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I don't know about that-but its a stupid line.
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I don't need or want Pig or anything else sanitized for my protection. And if you're offended by it, go listen to something else. Seems like now days folks runnin' 'round just looking for something to get offended by. Go seal yourself off in a plastic bubble and let the rest of us wallow in the grease in peace!
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Unless you are a schoolgirl, I wasn't actually concerned about your protection. If you are a man...whoah!
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Who's that? We don't all live in America, you know!
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Pigpen ends with the phrase"I don't care if you're only 17 years of age". 17 is the age of legal consent, and the song was written when people got married at 15. daverock Tipper Gore tried to limit free speech in the 90's by controlling what musicians could say on their albums. If it wasn't for her protecting my ears and Nancy Reagan telling me to just say no, who knows where I would be today.......
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Play that funky music white boy......
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And FINALLY being appreciated for what he did best! Let's have nothing but Pigpen releases from today until the Earth plunges into the Sun!! I'm gonna wind up your transmission Until your motor don't run no mo'!
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After listening to the Dead I've just realized they sing about drug induced states!
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I'm gonna guess that people have been singing about getting laid since people have been singing. Was feeling bored to death here this afternoon, but some of the comments you guys have posted are cracking me up. Nice to see a lack of personal insults in the back and forth.
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Jackaroe: a transvestite! Which restroom did he use on that ship, by the way???Jack Straw: "we can share the women..." nice!
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12/10/71 You'll find out ... NEXT time. With a little extra grease on the next. We need a grease release!
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I'm going to tell you how it's going to beYou're gonna give your love to me My love is bigger than a Cadillac I try to show you but you drive me back Good thing the Dead never covered the Stones Stray Cat Blues. Or is it? Perfect vehicle for Pig's spontaneous poetry.
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So if it wasn't a stupid line, in your opinion, THEN it would be offensive? Not sure about you, but in some circles, people actually frown upon under age drinking and fornification. Someday maybe, our lawmakers will have to courage to enact legislation that dissuades that type of behavior. Whether or not you think it is stupid. Time for somebody to find a new band.
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I can see that you're just 15 years old.No I don't want your I.D. ...It's no capital crime...
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Just got the Deal book, 1 from the vault and The Strange Remain (Kimock is insane, hope to see one of his upcoming stops) so I have some listening material for sunday. On the topic of offensive GD, I think Pigpen's just being raunchy, as part of the whoa factor, with some hilarious results at times. He also grew up listening to the blues since practically birth, so it wasn't like he went on stage and and was playing "blues guy" for a couple tunes. Funny it was mentioned that after listening to the originals, all else sounded fake. I had a similar experience after listening to Capt Beefheart hahaha, made me feel like everyone else wasn't trying for little while haha. As for GMLSGirl, it's a song I almost always skip. Good Lovin's another story haha "All night long, all night long"
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