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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • #201
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    Why is this still on sale?
    I can only answer for myself, and it's very simple; DiP 18 and, if i felt I needed any more than that, Red Rocks is available separately. on a separate note; does anyone know, is Betty getting her dues; I and several others have asked, and I haven't seen any kind of response at all. If not, surely a Pledge page would be good; or is there already one up? Anyone know?
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    Kayak Guy hit the nail on the head
    "This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated.Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy?" This is very insightful indeed. I can see no other explanation for the disparity.
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    Taking the threads back from the hackers
    This page for a while was filled with hackers posting away. when i translated some of it through google before it was cleaned up, it was polish slang for "i like this place" and "these people are funny". This set rocks BIGLY, you should consider yourselves lucky its still available for cost and still numbered editions. If you don't have it yet, it's worth the money and the artwork is fantastic, in the style of a graphic novel. Compared to other recent boxes that feature Normanized versions of Betty's that have been in circulation for 30 years, This July 78 box has 4 unreleased Betty's, well 3 and a Stereo upgrade from the mono that circulated. This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated. Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy? In any event if you haven't got it yet, you really should grab this box before it sells out and it becomes speculative on ebay, if just for the box and artwork.
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    The Bigger Question is....
    Why has this not sold out, its fantastic. Yes.. music today and the constant Russian Hackers is a big part of the reason, the other part is beyond an initial rollout strategy, they have no involvement. For the longest time this thread faded was not even prevalent from the home page of dead.net. I'm not complaining, I have mine and love it.. I just come to this thread from time to time and think wtf?
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    Why is this still on sale?
    You all have good guesses, as good as mine, which is. The real reason this is still available is the meltdown of Music Today shortly after the release, the website going to comments only mode for months until the Dave's subscription was announced, when NOTHING was available for purchase, and the still cryptic hint above that at some point it will be available digitally "on release day". Its very likely there are 2000 people that would have bought the box if it was the only option, but waited for the digital version instead. Add to that some short term memory loss and short attention spans and you have over 2000 copies left of this box set which I like much better than the Spring 77 box. I love this artwork and would have spent lots of dead presidents on T shirts, posters, and other schwag if offered. I also feel many people pay attention to their browsers and for months this site has been unsafe and I have to click through 2 browser warnings just to log in that say the site is bad for my internet security. NO where else on the internet do i have to click the 2nd "Are you Sure?" dialog box. What's up with that, someone saving IT money by waiting for a new interface, maybe ROAR as the core in the fall? Meanwhile the site limps along on, unsecured until the next explosion when Dave's 22 goes on sale shortly before May 77 part 1 ships and people find out if they got a limited edition or music only version. I bet that will be fun times on the board ;)
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    I agree Dschian on each of your points. I think it is noteworthy, however that this one is dragging on with 17% of the inventory still left after a year. I think they planned on this one moving faster and I don't blame them. I would have thought that 3 totally uncirculated betty boards and two classics with one only circulating in mono would have generated more buzz. I suspect Rhino and Co. thought the same and thus the 15k. It seems like each release gets core customer sales in the 10k range. That number represents those of us who are so pathetically obsessed that we buy everything no matter what. Then the remaining 5k in sales are the "investors" and occasional buyers. I think that dependable 10k in sales per release is pretty clearly indicated by the numbers set for the FW69 box, early DaPs etc. I think the DaP numbers have gone up only because of the demand created by the second hand market. I do find the hue and cry over limited editions a bit exasperating as I think I understand the considerations being made here and the need to limit stock on hand and warehousing. Really, if we would dependably buy 100k per release they would gladly print it; I'm sure of it. We cant blame the manufacturer for trying to avoid inventory warehousing expenses. This release is a clear indication to me that they have the number set just about right to accomplish their goal of printing and moving releases on a continual release schedule.
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    Yup, 80% of the run sold in one year- Rhino knows its base well
    Yup, 0ver 80% of the run sold in about a year; at this rate, the rest will probably sell in the next two to three years. Based upon what I've seen buying modern cd and lp releases, it's not unusual for a run to take a few years (and sometimes up to twice that time) to sell out, even for many popular releases. In that respect, wadeocu, yes, Rhino knows its customer base quite well. Nearly every other Dead limited edition/limited release has sold out relatively quickly (from a few days to several months), and even the slower ones, like the second Spring '90 box and the May '77 one, sold out within a few years or less. Believe it or not, Rhino's goal is probably not to make sure that these sell out in a heartbeat, but to sell the greatest number without multiple production runs or endless inventory. I for one am glad that people don't always have to rush to immediately buy one or have to otherwise search for it on ebay at inflated prices. Recently Rhino sold over $2 million dollars worth of the new box set (before the all-music release that followed) within three days, even with the first marked by technical difficulties- by any standard, that's pretty impressive nowadays for physical media.As a follow-up to my recent post below, finally got a chance to hear my Winterland 1977 box again (I have a huge listening backlog) and came away much more impressed by it than by the first May 1977 box, with the exception of the latter's 5/13 show, which is excellent and the best of them. I still do think, though, that overall the Summer 1978 box outranks the May '77 box in quality of shows.
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    1977 the last great year for the Dead?
    Rbmunkin, while in some respects 1977 WAS the last great year for the Dead- chiefly in the reliability of their musicianship, according to what I've heard from later years- it certainly wasn't their last great year for many listeners in terms of many, many great later performances. To put my bias in context, my favorite Dead years are 1969 and 1972-'74, so I'm not an '80's deadhead, though I attended the bulk of my shows during the earlier part of that decade and love many of the shows from its first half.I have both the May 1977 box set and the July '78 one, and to my ears the 1978 one is substantially better. I say that because while the 1977 performances in that box are all reasonably strong, they're not always particularly exciting to me. The band, and Jerry in particular, strike me as being in a more predictable, professional mode at the shows in this earlier '77 box release (though I expect the new '77 box to be substantially better performances, based upon the bits I've heard). I find the improvisation more raw, energetic, and dynamic in the 1978 box, and to me that's what makes shows stand out. Also, the song selection is a bit more varied, which I appreciate. While 1978 may be weaker overall as a year (and I haven't heard most of either year), I find these performances to be better than much of what I've heard from '77. Similarly, according to what a listener likes, great boxes (if not great recordings) could be put together of performances from the early 80's or even the Spring/Summer 1985 tour, I believe. One slight drawback of the 1978 box is that the recordings have a bit less depth to the sound, but that goes with the territory of later 2-track soundboards. If you like the '78 sound, definitely get this box while it's still around! I think that they're all (and not just the Red Rocks shows) excellent performances and better ones than the Dave's Picks releases from '78 so far.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:13

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Playing -> China Cat 12/29/77 my all time fave.
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:39

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Just catching up. The only posts I found creepy were from the guy who found the PMs creepy;-) Just wanted to say mbarilla, and stoltzfus, you guys have some great posts, especially on transitions. A lot of credit is given (for good reason) to JiminMD, Sixtus, OneMan, KeithFan, and a few others for their great posts, and I think you guys too! By the way, where is KeithFan lately????
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:40

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Ahhh.. Playin'>China Cat>Rider. Goosebumps. One of those pieces where I remember exactly when and where I heard it first - Thanks to David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour. Nice Cousins.
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:43

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Just one man's perspective. I have not heard near the Pig that most of you have but I do understand his raps. I have always thought some of what people now think as vulgar was also part of the generational shift that was going on. We were only 20 years since the end of WWII and had gone through a period of serious relief that the world did not end. Enormous celebration/relaxation which included the explosion of child births. When I try to describe San Fran or New York City or New Orleans to friends that have never been there, they cannot grasp the impact of Lost Sailors coming and going through these international ports. Those cities have to deal with a much higher level of liberalism and freedom because the wayfairing men are sea dogs after all. That, when combined with the overly uptight puritans that founded this country, always provided a natural grind of culture. Pig was primarily singing to young white uptight kids. He was trying to encourage them to relax some, it is alright to find the opposite sex attractive. To me, it always sounds like he is encouraging the guys to at least "take a chance", let the cards fall as they may. Of course, the funk and grease of black culture was different than the puritan culture. From my perspective, southern black churches do a better job of preaching forgiveness. A'int none of us perfect. We struggle with these issues today. Many younger men are now asking women to meet halfway, take a chance, ask us out. Women now understand the struggle of confidence and rejection. Pig to me was encouraging the guys to go for it, more than likely the girl, at a grateful dead concert, will respond positively if it is done in respectful manner. If you get shot down, well, "broken heart don't feel so bad." It wasn't but a little while longer and we got pole man. Bet Pig did not have to encourage him.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:56

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....I was there too. Damn. I guess I've witnessed more awesome transitions than I remember! Damn window pane....
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 15:56

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Dick's number 5 is one of my favorite second sets of all time. Great sounding, pushing the envelope. They were also trying out for the first time a new PA stack which was discussed on the Dap17 WoS release. I know either me or Bmore posted the very long article on those shows and the work being done between Meyer and Ultra Sound. Love the transitions, the interplay, the teasing and then dropping a song when you know for sure you have the next pick. Matter of fact, I am going to listen to that this weekend. Been so busy with 30Tats, and Dave's etc that I have not listened to that in almost a year. I had written to Dave Stang last summer to put on disk three because at the 5 minute mark into the disk (if memory serves) you can hear Dan punch in the (horizontal) line arrays and hear the spacial expansion to what later became known as 3d or holographic sound. Many weeks back yall got into the discussion of Dan's firing. I cannot remember all of the discussions but I think some discussions were that Dan did not give Sting the full use of the PA and that pissed of Jer. That is what I believe happened. I believe Sting was given the straight stereo PA, not the full expanded holographic sound. Just thinkin out loud. I know, that can be very dangerous.
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Submitted by Deadicated on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 16:29

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2/17/73 HCS > China Cat, etc. But I like 2/15 better.
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 16:38

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Appreciate the recommendations, and great transition conversation. Following one of the leads, just finished re-listening to the end of 4/26/72 from Lovelight on. Very cool, and even just the Lovelight itself, a very badass guitar heavy version, I thought. My Europe '72 education has stalled recently, with so much else to digest, but I need to get back and wrap up my first pass of the steamer trunk. Do or do not, there is no try. Completey random side note, anyone else like the Devil Makes Three? Cool stuff. Here's a Blind Willie McTell cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etQmhGm39bI
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 16:43

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Down on the gulf of mexico. Right near the Florida/Alabama line. Great honky tonk there called FloraBama. Huge club, holds like 10,000 people but last summer Kenny Chesney did a show there for 40,000 (on the beach). Family owns a condo right on the beach. For some strange reason I got to go down there the first of April and then again last week. That does not happen very often. As far as phish - had some great Yellowfin Tuna, Grouper, North Atlantic Cod, and Red Snapper open season started last week so had to have some of that. It was all very very good. However, everyone talking about Walkerswood (???) has me jonesin to find that stuff. Dang I since weight gain... Here is a link about FloraBama's annual mullet toss. I almost posted a month ago when there was some video of a bikini contest and you could see the band playin, and you could hear the singer say "You win again." http://www.al.com/news/beaches/index.ssf/2016/04/mullet_toss_underway_a…
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 17:16

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Thanks Jim. I remember exactly where I was: right side of balcony, about 10 rows up! Don't think I heard such an enthusiastic response from a Dead audience since, including the Dark Star a year later(if my memory serves me well...)
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 17:45

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also thanks for the pig link!
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 17:54

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Fell in love with this years ago on hissy cassette.9-9-82 UJB> Samson> UJB> Estimated> Eyes> Drums Only had set 2 back then. Now have the whole show on CD-R but 1/2 Step is AUD. Set 1 starts 1/2 Step> Franklin's> Stranger
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 18:18

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....one of the best things of summer (and there are many), is that I can fire up the ole' Weber charcoal grill at 6:30 and not have to worry about hauling a flashlight out to monitor the cooking. That usually turns out.....well, let's just say I eyeball it....and it's dark....and my eyeballs don't function too well when it's dark....ohh..and Eyes->Let It Grow, 6.9.76....
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Submitted by One Man on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 18:30

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I LOVE the theory that Pig's raps spawned Pole Guy.
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Submitted by Old Chief Smokem on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 19:32

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I've been transitioning from the '78 box back to Dave's 17 and 2/28/69 with a little E'72 mixed in as well. It all depends on what mood hits me at that moment. Good transition from He's Gone into US Blues on Dave's 17. The '78 Box really blazes away- the St. Paul show was a big hit in the house- kinda surprised me. A nice little gem not be lost among the Rocks Shows. My 2 year old is rocking out to the Grateful Dead on a regular basis- every time we get in the car he says, "Grwateful Dead, Dad-dy?" It makes me laugh out loud, and then we crank some dead and rock out for our ride! I may not have this whole parenting thing figured out, but that goes in the win column for sure. I don't know what "something we've never done before means, but----Bring back some PIG for Dave's 19! Please gimme some Pig! The raps, the harmonica, the drive and energy- The PIG! Think there's any chance the '69 box will ever be available digitally like May '77 and July '78? Would love to get those shows- just been archiving them. God Bless the Grateful Dead!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 19:37

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....sounds fun. Mayhaps I will check in out....and to smokum....nice start. Franklin's Tower gets my son every time...you got this parenting thing down pat....

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Submitted by antonjo on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 20:47

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Someone's probably mentioned by now, the Dark Star reprise out of Me and My Uncle on 4/24/72? Or DS into it, for that matter.... 2/22/69 (30 Trips) - Mountains of the Moon > Dark Star Another fun one is Half-Step > El Paso, 10/14/77 - almost manifests perfectly, but then the drummers make a slight but conspicuous adjustment. Love that pairing thematically, though, in any case : ) Vguy, great calls on China Doll > Around and Around (11/30/80), LOVE that one, and Arrowhead Estimated > Other One (7/1/78). And I'm a huge fan of 12/29/79, the first Dick's Picks I ever bought. Underrated indeed. The second set is a rich journey, but so's first set. The hottest Alabama Getaway ever, I've never even heard a close second. Cold Rain, Big River, Brown-Eyed Women, all excellent. Phil's bass is still (fittingly) mixed late-70's, notes bouncing above ground, so I've always thought this show is an audible blend of late 70's & 80's Dead stylistically. And that encore!! Then I freaked when Dick's 4 got replenished at the same record store...! That 2/14 Alligator > Caution run was a crown jewel tape. So there's another classic pair o' transitions for ya: Not Fade Away > Mason's Children > Caution! Iconic, both in and out of Mason's. edit: and 11/10/85 - Half-Step > I Know You Rider
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 21:11

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So much of what the GD accomplished was accomplished by paying attention, hearing subtleties, and reacting; launching in some new direction but taking pieces with them as they went, to form a new Whole. This is what the Transitions are all about (my take) and so too goes Our thoughtful and insightful discussions: One throws out there an idea, and more often than not, they are reached for and placed back with a little something extra added, to move it along. This board today is a prime time example. Someone way back mentioned Transitions, and off We go. 1989 was mentioned, and a fun and unique flow of '89 suggestions comes forth. Prime shows and transitional moments were touted; Others backed them...multiple times. Reinforcement, positivity, e-high fives, Groupmind works in awesome ways. I have thoroughly enjoyed today's discussion folks. To boot: I loved the Pig video of the '70 Easy Wind - easily one of my favorites from that era, giving Pigpen his due but also allowing Bobby to shine by taking that second solo after Pig blows The Blues. I always liked how that song gave all three a chance to stretch out. The Pig footage - again, a nudge and an offering of this glimpse at a mere mention....awesome. What I wonder is are any of his rants documented in such a way??? Furthermore. ANYTHING Into- Chinacat-related, good lord I had of course blasphemously neglected the several mentioned (12/29/77; 2/17/73; and let's not forget DP14). I love when these happened, they seemed to be rare but great moments. I am also observing, there are Star Wars references all over the place around here as of late; this makes me happy. To be afforded the rank of Jedi Master is beyond humbling; if only. Someone needs to invent a lightsaber. My childhood dream. I've said it before and likely Others may feel the same way, but I've got nothing but love and pride for participating here and being a part of it All. Thanks folks and Good Night. Sixtus And, in the event anyone wondered, yep, that is actually the Dead End sign in my side yard (in my avatar pic). The Serendipity of this house being on a Dead End is too exactly perfect. As seen here.
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Submitted by jaydoublu on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 21:40

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1/15/79 Springfield Miracle>Shakedown
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 06/01/2016 - 23:20

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....nine minutes of bliss. Wow Dave, wow.....I have Festival Express, but I don't recall this footage. Lots of Billy and Phil, but that's OK....
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Submitted by wharfrattx on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 01:46

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Someone mentioned the Alabama Getaway as being the hottest ever. I totally agree! No other version even comes close. An absurd rip-roaring climax, and then Promised Land kicks in and intensifies even further! I woulda been satisfied at that point, and then we get THAT second set! Unbelievable!
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 04:20

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I know they did it so many times, but I always really wake up when they play China Cat-I Know You Rider. Maybe my all time favourite Dead jam, and moment, is the one on Sunshine Daydream dvd during the jam between the two songs. The other jam I really like is when the play Me and My Uncle in the middle of The Other One in 1971. The one from 8/6/71 at Hollywood comes to mind, Dicks Picks 35. Amazing, first time you here it-especially if you don't know whats coming next.
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 04:40

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The other thing I was thinking about this morning, after having read Nick Meriwethers essay in the box set, was how amazing it must have been to see The Dead at Red Rocks. I have read interviews with band members where they say that the envirionment they played in changed the way they played-and this must also be true for us listeners too. Its even true just listening to tapes and cds. I live in England and I got into The Dead in 1975. In 1990, me and my girlfriend went to America for the first and only time-a "fly drive" holiday on the West Coast. It was beyond my wildest dreams, seeing all those places I had only ever read about-but somehow couldn't imagine really existing. Los Angeles, The Grand Canyon, Death Valley..San Francisco! The weather was glorious, the people we met seemed happy and friendly-it was ...heaven to be young at the time, I would say. And we listened to The Dead as we tootled along. Never had their music seemed so appropriate. On the long stretches of roads through the country, the music seemed almost organic-as though it had grown out of, and was part of the landscape. The tape I remember listening to most was Stanley Theater, 28/9/72-the night after the one released as Dicks Picks 11. It was so different listening to it there than where I may normally have been listening to it-on the bus, say, with headphones on, going to work in rainy old Manchester.
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 05:01

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How strange-I have just finished writing up about when I was in America and listened to The Dead in the car, and I was trying to remember what else we listened to. I was looking at some posts from yeserday, and saw the one from Ken Goodman.Flatt and Scruggs-of course! I had never heard them before, but I bought a tape at the roadside somewhere. It also seemed reflect the areas we were driving through. I also got Grand Funk Live...which didn't go down quite as well. Although they were probably fantastic if you were in the right place and state of mind when you heard them.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 07:15

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Has one of the most exquisite "China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider" Manchester - when I was there it was quite rainy, but that has been quite some time as well, right before the Euro 1996 tournament. Are you a Manchester United fan ? Your post mentions the changing environment and the way the band played. In regard to July 1978, one of the cool things for me is hearing little hints of what is to come although it's only a week from first to last show in July Example 1 - "Estimated Prophet -> The Other One" from 7.1.78 - when I heard that piece from Box set my mind connected to 7.8.78 performance of same combo - listening to that Red Rocks show for all these years, but not having heard 7.1.78 was very cool Example 2 - "Ramble on Rose" from 7.3.78 - similar to example 1 - Ramble on Rose heard it a bunch of time from 7.8.78 and then to hear it on 7.3.78 - connection established Example 3 - "Ship of Fools" from 7.5.78 - always loved the 7.8.78 "Ship of Fools" and this one is sweet too, the "Ship of Fools" from 7.5.78 is really the point for me when the band finds the X-factor on this night propelling the band for the rest of show
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 07:39

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Haha looks like a blast ! Reminds me of a trip spring break trip I made to Panama City That's a lot of fish !! I need some good seafood from prime location, salted and smoked has my mouth watering
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 07:49

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Hey.. I rarely do this, but a quick shoutout and Happy BDay to Kayak Guy. Not only is his moniker a great sport and one of my favorite pastimes, but he turned me on to a couple great shows, like 1/22/78, that for some reason slipped under my radar.
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 08:01

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I'm jumping on this bandwagon too, Jim. Thanks to Kayak Guy for all your knowledge droppage along with other very selfless acts including distributing so much of this amazing music to the masses. Godspeed, my friend, and happy birthday! Sixtus
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Submitted by Ken Goodman on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 08:05

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Today I declared "1969 Day" and, blissfully worry & appointment-free, phone turned off, set up the following musical magic to "work" creatively by:1. (underrated) Dick's Picks 26: (beautiful!) Dark Star; 2. Thelma: Dark Star & Other One; 3. Fillmore West: (powerful!) Jam; 4. (back to) Thelma: Drums; Alligator; Caution; Feedback; 5. (back to) Dick's 26: (outstanding) Morning Dew. Cruising along with my creative work...without warning: a "Stanley Steamer" van pulled up (in front of my first-floor window) to service someone else in the building; and for a LONG, LONG TIME...emitted the worst possible sound imaginable, like ten basso-profundo buzz saws, cruelly & mercilessly crushing my sound-utopia with a super-annoying truly demonic sound from inescapable hell. This (it seemed to me) was directly symbolic of the historic transition from Woodstock to Altamont. I guess there's no avoiding such things.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 08:25

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spin the bonus disc from Fillmore West Recordings He Was a Friend of Mine -> China Cat Sunflower -> New Potato Caboose "All graceful instruments are known !!!!!
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Submitted by brianhahne on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 08:35

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7/8/78, Disc 2.... The Estimated on this set is just awesome....
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Submitted by Guss West on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 09:11

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Heaping my praises and thanks to the great Kayak Guy. Don't stay Lost, Sailor! A kind and generous seeker shining his light to banish the darkness. Roll Away the Dew!!! Hope you have a great birthday! Here's to many more happy healthy years of life, love, and great music! Prost!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 09:25

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Agree on the Estimated Prophets, Brian. I re-listened to 7/1 and 7/8 yesterday. I need to check out the Omaha Estimated Eyes again. The trifecta on 7/8 is stunning, but I sort of like the jam out of Estimated from 7/1 better. That could change in subsequent listens, could be that it surprised me on the first go around, could be that its just really good.
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Submitted by nestamon on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 09:54

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Happy Bday (who knew!), and a sincere THANK YOU for sharing your technical expertise, show suggestions and interesting posts. Its rare to interact with someone who so truly exemplifies the "random acts of kindness" attitude that our whole scene is born from.
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 10:10

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Happy Birthday Our Friend!!! Hope it is an awesome one. You have helped me out of a couple of posting pickles, so I am forever grateful. G
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 11:20

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I used to support Manchester United when I was quite young, from about 1968-1972. I gradually lost interest as I got into going to see bands. But it was very exciting at the time. One of their most famous players, George Best used to play for them then. We used to stand up behind the goal, and every time Manchester United moved in to attack that goal, the whole crowd used to sway forward. Being aged 11-14, I used to get swept off my feet sometimes. When you look back at all the risks we take as we grow up, its amazing so many of us live past 21! Interesting points you make about the connections between songs on the 78 box. I must listen again more closely. I was bowled over by the most unlikely song last night-El Paso on from 7/8. Jerrys guitar playing sparkles throughout.
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 11:49

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Wasn't expecting to see a reference to The Stooges on here! I never saw them-but Iggy Pop was the most charismatic performer I ever saw. He was on the T.V live here last week. Clearly getting on in years, and with a perceptible limp-he was still amazing.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 12:00

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Dave said it would be something "they" have never done before. Release the full show of a previously released partial show? (ex. Filmore 4/28/71 or road trips 6/18/74) Perhaps three one disc shows from 67,68, or 69? Love to hear some thoughts. Maybe details coming in June? Sam T. Also, much thanks Bolo. Loved the Pigpen link!!!!!
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 12:35

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My son caught Iggy with Josh Homme a few weeks ago at a small theatre near Boston and was blown away. I saw the Scruggs Review a long time ago and got to shake Earl's hand. Didn't wash it for a week or so! That man could play. Rock on
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 06/02/2016 - 14:34

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I haven't seen Iggy yet... got to see Earl Scruggs a couple times, the last when he was 86 years old. The man was a force on banjo, a bluegrass Jedi Master.
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