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June 11, 2009 - 9:46am

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marye

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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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September 27, 2015 - 7:59am

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Guss West

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August 21, 2015

Thank you

You all have my word that the vines I am sent will be carefully tended until they are ready to be passed along. Love and Gratitude to those who invest in endlessly seeding. The Music Never Stops!
August 29, 2012 - 4:26pm

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RaymondMBrown

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March 20, 2009

Wow....

Haven't been around here for a while... but things are different huh?? JackstrawfromColorado.... let me know what shows you need.... I have them all pretty much covered. Sorry to see there has been some toxins in the Vineyard.... doesn't take much to kill 'em off.... Hope everyone is otherwise well. -Raymond.
August 28, 2012 - 6:10pm

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zepthompson

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November 1, 2010

Mark

I think I have your email pretty sure you have mine next time you are up this way..... take care amigo!
August 28, 2012 - 5:31pm

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JackstrawfromC…

Joined:
January 2, 2009

Thanks oroboros!!

Thanks for backing me up and thank you too Jake. People are funneling vines to carolina boy I see and all I can say is "whatever". I tried being the vine cop but it was a grueling, thankless job and I spent way too much time and resources re-seeding vines and doing the follow ups with folks. No one could do what markinthedark did, and I suspect much like me he got way too burned out. I love a lot of you out there but the people with total disregard I cannot deal with anymore. I am signed up for the two 83 vines and I hope someone who has my email address could email me when they are coming my way I would be very grateful. Then I am officially out of here. The 72 europe bullshit and now the new site are making me crazy too so again, take care everyone I love you I loved trading with y'all but it is really time for me to say fare thee well. If you have my email drop me a letter and I'd love to trade that way with you but I am done here. Mark
August 25, 2012 - 11:05am

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Jake R

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October 27, 2008

Hey guys,

I just bumped all of Fall 72 and the entire 73 vines. Lot of stuff is lost over the pond unfortnately and lost in the server change-over.
August 20, 2012 - 8:55pm

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Oroboros

Joined:
June 4, 2007

As one of the original group that started vining here

'back in the day' I can agree that I have watched while several individuals took and took and ended up being 'vine killers'. They showed up, got on the list to receive the vine and then never sent them onto those next on the list. While I have not been as active, of late I will agree with my brothers comments that it is difficult to keep the vineyard producing when some just take and take. I wish I had an answer. For a while we were attentive and kept track and then ericat and then Markinthedark helped us attend to keeping the vineyard going. But if we don't identify those that are toxic to the cause don't be surprised when so many vines die. I don't think that Jake R and JackstrawfromCo would be expressing these concerns if carolina boy didn't have a history. Has he reseeded the vines that disappeared when sent to him ? A show of good faith? I can't be the 'vine cop' and I have watched as that role has unfortunately burnt out several of my brothers in the Vineyard. And they are gone. FYI- I have reseeded many CDs to get vines back on track here, both with the vines I started and ones that were seeded by others. Saying that isn't to expect praise but to offer that I have invested in the Vineyard, and have been given back far more than I have put into this wonderful space. The Wheel does go round.. I will say to those on the vineyard that our history is right here to view. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
August 16, 2012 - 9:05pm

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Jake R

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October 27, 2008

My sentiments exactly

Mark, I completely agree with u. Idk if he thinks enough time has passed and we forgot but I certainly have not. I wholeheartedly encourage a banishment of him from any vines he is on. I too do not speak ill of anyone; this has always been a great community. But if any vines he is on gets sent to him and not passed along I too will be done with this place.
August 16, 2012 - 7:23pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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January 2, 2009

carolina boy

you guys I know I don't come around here much anymore but the vineyard will always be a place I will cherish, for the music and the people who formed this community. I am probably coming across like a big ol jerk here but I don't care because this guy here .. carolina boy ... single handily took the vineyard down. a bunch of us went to a lot of work to reseed all the vines he STOLE from here. I'm getting emotional right now because I must sound like an asshole but I don't care ... i just hope someone from the old days who remembers backs me up... please do not trade with him ... I mean actually do whatever you want but I know what he did to the vineyard and I am letting you all know
July 29, 2012 - 4:06pm

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stepineden72

Joined:
January 22, 2011

A Big Thank You!

To Jake for reseeding all the missing '67, '68 and '69 vines.You be the MAN Jake! Yeah,just like a kid turned loose in a freakin' candy store I am. Thanks again.
July 29, 2012 - 2:07pm

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Jake R

Joined:
October 27, 2008

sorry for the double post

the first left out the links.

Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

80s acoustic

Dstache - Do you have a list of the acoustic 80 shows? You can PM me... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

MITD TAlking Heads

Lopezz:The T-Heads never was released by MITD before his uncanny disappearance. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"

Talking Heads

I will always be up for seeding some Talking Heads! I still have these shows and some great new stuff too. The old vine was intended for the cd crowd. Now that there are more people trading in flac I will pick the two best shows to burn on cds and have the rest in flac.

I'd love some Talking Heads!

"I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

Anyone have Unclejons address ?

I pm`d him but hav`nt heard from him . I have the 77 pt 1 vine for him . or should i skip him , don`t really want to do that he is a reliable viner here . any ideas or anyone got his addy ?

Thank you Lopezz

I`ll get this vine out to UJ now .

furthur dsbd

2009-09-19 dsbd now in the usuaLL places. How do they manage to get them out?

Out of town

Hey vine friends - I'm stepping out of town for about a week so I'll catch up with vines that are currently heading my way the middle of next week. sorry for any inconvenience! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

73 vines

Looks like mdecicco1 is holding up a few of the 1973 vines (and for months, not just a week ro two). I advise against sending him anything else until he gets those vines moving again. If I have to reseed one of the three vines, that is fine, but I am not going to seed all three. A little help will be needed from other viners to reseed if mdecicco1 has disappeared.

POMO list

So glad i ddidn't make it!!! Only thought I have: if someone posts an e-mail address -- use it! We all don't log in with the same frequency, so maybe that is a thought to keep things going. I have been a huge offender of not posting a 'status' (sent, received etc.) Thanks to all for patience love and understanding.

update

Next vine will consist of 4 of the unvined shows from January 1978. Rick sent me the month and I am in the process of converting and listening to the shows I didn't already have (plus I will convert and listen to a show I had already, and LOVE, one of my all time fav shows, 1/31). 1/10 and 1/11, both very good shows, will be included. The 4th show will remain a secret until the vine is unleashed. Let me tell you, I was BLOWN away by it. If you are into, or at least don't mind, straight up rock n roll Grateful Dead, you will be blown away too. The Best of '79 series will continue. I finished listening to the spring shows and have 2 that I think are worthy of inclusion in this illustrious series. I am taking a little break from 79 and will wait until I listen to the summer shows before vining the next part. Give me a month or so for the next part. Rick also sent me the '80 acoustic sets from Radio City. If anyone has the acoustic sets from the Warfield or Louisiana, let me know and we can vine the whole shebang.

dstache

The acoustic radio city vine sounds awesome. I have the acoustic warfield sets from 10/2 and 10/11 which I belive I got from vines on here. I'd love to have the electric sets from those shows also, so let me know if you can get ahold of them. Thanks for all you do here! Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Acoustic 80

Like I said I have the acoustic 9/30 and 10/3 shows along with the Radio City ones. I have been trying to obtain a few of the others... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

acoustic 80

I have the 10/26/80 full show in amazing quality... if this is needed let me know Derek. I have been looking for sbds of 10/23 & 10/27 complete shows if anyone has these... I was there and would love to get these. Marty

Vines for everyone

There are a lot of different vines here and they are usually in North America (and they are not in Eurovines topic). It takes too long to wait them in Europe and to send them overseas and back again and again... It would be better to re-seed vines for European Deadheads separate from North America. Lets think how to do it. Maybe first person from Europe must re-seed it or there must be the other way to do it.

Apla

there were indeed a bunch of eurovines and indeed quite a few vines in the US have been started from Europe, but I think most folks in Europe get their Dead from the well known places where it can be found online and so don't vine so much. Kind folks in the USA do send vines to Europe if you ask. Some will make new copies for reseeding here (you can then offer it on the Eurovines forum). Or if a vine seems to have reached the end of the line in the US, then the time to send it over the water and back is not really an issue and so you could sign up. So I suggest you PM the holders of the vines you like and ask them if they can help. More than one has helped me in this way. If you are desperate for any particular shows from the 60s and 70s you can PM me too.... you are in Belarus if I remember correctly . I am sure that folks would be happy to help out a Deadhead over there. I am often in Ukraine and Russia but have not yet visited Belarus..if I do I will bring you a stack of DVDs! .( I am writing from the Sykvitkar in the Komi Republic in Russia right now!)

Got to love that magic badger!!!

Cosmic, worldly, erudite, and a whole bunch of other good adjectives - and he's always somewhere different - we could have a game called "where's cosmic badger?" - kind of like "Where's Waldo" - I'd bet he speaks like 10 languages (not including badger)

Hey Now

What was the vine that came with the two Sting concerts. I screwed up burning the houston show and can't locate in my records what vine it came with. Thanky. DMTT

was it Jerry Garcia/Sting 6/26/93 Vine ?

Jerry Garcia/Sting 6/26/93 Vine

That was one Sting show in the vine.

was it Jerry Garcia/Sting 6/26/93 Vine ? The other one was Sting in Houston in 1997. The JG/Sting 6/26/93 was part of two vines at the same time. They came as "Extras" in the vine I am looking for.

i couldn't find them in the vines list

i looked in the new vines topic & went through the existing vines - they must not have been mentioned. Sorry.

Ursa or Lopez might know

or That nice hippy guy, or derek - they've all been pretty active

Sting

I'm pretty sure they were on the Sting Garcia vine at one time. I guess they may have lost their way at some point. This is what I still have: The Police, Budokan Hall Tokyo Japan 02-02-1981 The Police, The Bottom Line, NYC 04-04-1979 The Police, Miami, FL 05-04-1979 The Police, Complete" Synchronicity Rehearsals 07-22-1983 The Police, Ghost in the Machine Demos 1981 Sting and Garcia, RFK Stadium - Washington, DC 06-26-93 Sting, Superstar Concert Series

It was the superstars concert series.

The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.

It was the superstars concert series.

The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.

FYI

I'm heading to the Great Plains for some Yonder Halloween shows tomorrow, won't be home until late Sunday night. So anything that may land on my doorstep in the interim (Neil Young Europe comp, 5 Garcia shows, etc...) will have to wait until sometime next week.

Jerrydex

Brand New Jerrydex posted in the Vindex forum. Long overdue project compiled in various aeroplanes and airports on my long journey home yesterday.

VERY impressive!

thank you badger!

Hey Hey everyone I think I have solved my mystery.

The elusive Sting concert was part of the First Anniversary Vine. Hidden deep on Disc 2. The vine was started by LTAPilot. Peace

Sting concert mystery....continues

Sorry it was not I who inserted the sting shows onto the First Anniversary vine. The show may have been added after it was given to the community. Peace Rick

Hi folks

I am still here. The vine traffic has slowed down. Is there something in the water here at deadnet? Mind you, I'm just minding my own business and not bothering anyone or looking for trouble. :0) In the last 2 days, I have received hate mail regarding my political philosophies and love letters. Hope everyone has a great holiday season. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz

Bummer about the hate mail Exploratory,

no one deserves that.

..etc

It probably was not really "hate mail." :-) It was just like I have no business being here at deadnet since my philosophies go against everything the Dead stands (stood) for. :-) "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz

What Bullshit EDA

Considering the only true philosophy the Dead had was to allow everybody to do and be who were they were without judging. "That path is for, your steps alone."

ouch

I'm sorry to hear that EDA. Care to let us know who is sending such nasty mail?

..etc

Let's drop this. The post was not bad or nasty. Remember I also got a love note too--within 24 hours of each other. Seriously. I was just joking that something must be in the water. I did not want to start a discussion so I apologize for stirring the pot. I have a general policy to stay inside this vinyard where it is safe and not venture out into the woods where sasquatch lurks. It's a full moon--look at your calendars!

I'm guessing it was your gun topic?

Don't worry about it EDA. Some people are way too judgmental.. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

The Vineyard

is safe and warm and cozy! "That path is for, your steps alone."

Yes it is

:-) That's why I hang out here all the time. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

'72

I have gone through the many pages of vines. Is there a flac Europe '72 vine? I see one that is not flac and some tracks have gaps between them. I'll check the vindex. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz

Messages from gloryph

I hate to bring this up again but be on the lookout for mail in your PM box from gloryph. He/she does not accept private PMs (how convenient) but only wants to communicate by e-mail (now that's a red flag). They just joined (another red flag), and the message sent to me appears to be a generic "love letter" message. I googled this, and low and behold quite a few folks have received gloryph's exact same message on other unrelated forums (flashing red lights). I suspect that gloryph has targeted other folks here at deadnet. I am not sure what the motive is (friendship...etc) but after discovering this, I decided to put out an all points bulletin. EDAD

EDA

I do not remember a all FLAC '72. Are you going to do one? Let me know if you need any help.Peace rick Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again

Has anyone else noticed

that you can google our vines. If you type in all or part of the name and end it with vine, a lot of the come up as the second or third hit. I just thought that was kind of cool.

yes...

and this would be a good time to remind folks that anything they post in the forums is world-readable, too...

I`m back

Hi everyone , after 12 hours a day for the last 3 weeks of training i had to take a week off. But I`m back and I do have sevral vines wich I am working on and will get them out as soon as I can . Thank you all for your peitients .

stuman

I was wondering where you disappeared to! 12 hours a day of training?? Yikes! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

Bill Walton

I didn't know where to post this, but since the vineyard is like my home away from home, I figured this was as good a place as any. Bill Walton was talking about the constant criticism he receives as a basketball analyst. He said that he was like St. Stephen: "Wherever he goes the people all complain." I just thought that was cool. "That path is for, your steps alone."

Walton continued...

If you ever listen to a game he works on tv, he is constantly dropping allusions to the Dead and to specific songs.... A few weeks ago on the occasion of John Wooden's 99th birthday, (the legendary coach of the UCLA Bruins), he called Wooden a "Saint of Circumstance" among other references. From this basketball fan's perspective however.... I think sometimes a little Dead-air would do him good! The man rambles! Finally.... met him outside the Spectrum one night.... he was getting out of a Lincoln and sneaking into a side door about 30 minutes prior to the show.... stopped briefly and chatted.... was a nice experience. Thanks. Raymond

Mark G. Stanfield

Well, maybe a positive sign. For all you "Facebooker's" out there you might get this more then others. I sent a Mark G. Stanfield in Louisville, KY a "Friend request" 6-8 months ago. He never accepted it, but in looking at my "live feed" (sorta like the Twitter aspect of Facebook) he posted "Mark G. Stanfield joined the group An Arbitrary Number of People Demanding That Some Sort Of Action Be Taken. I don't know why he showed up on my live feed, but it sounds like it could be him. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"

Mark G. Stanfield

I had taged Mark as a yahoo IM contact like way back whenever it was . I was recentley checking my e-mail and a little smiley face poped up with his name under it . I sent him a im but he never responed to me . kinda strange . but life is full of strangeness .. you all take care now ..