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Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know...
This topic is for requesting new individual shows. There are also topics for box sets and DVDs.
If you've already requested something in the previous Requests topic, you don't really need to request it again, but hey, if you just can't help yourself...
2009 Tour
I am looking into vining this entire tour. However the most efficient way to vine something this large is to use FLAC files on a DVD(s).
"Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
05-13-1972---LILLE FAIRGROUNDS
i know that '72 is a well represented year and already own all the other '72 release, but since i heard to this show on Archivie, can't stop thinkin' about it!! Both set are outstanding, and u can Clearly listen to Bobby's guitar!!__and BTW understand his huge importance to the GD sound___,track selection is perfect and sound quality is already very high, i don't know if anybody ever requested this but just give it a hear,you won't be disappointed!!
Anything from the Omni '89-'94
Come on!!!! How can this venue have been overlooked this long!!! There were some SMOKIN' shows (esp. 90 and 91) played there! PLEASE!!! I don't even mind a 3 show highlight collection!!!!!
2/2/70
All that circulates is
//Cumberland
Dark Star >
Stephen >
Mason's//
The sound (at least from the vernon source) is great, A if not A+. The Dark Star may be THE Dark Star. The Stephen and the bit of Mason's we have are great, too. If this board is in the vault, the sound quality is good and the rest of the show even approaches the level of what circulates, an official release is not only warranted, but necessary.
1984
Anything from 1984 would be great to see as a release. I have recently made a chart of live releases and have noticed that 1984 has been totally ignored.
Initial studies have concluded that repeated exposure to Grateful Dead music may be habit forming, and can result in a permanent change to the psyche of the listener. While no one has successfully reversed this condition, it can sometimes be controlled to
petition for a 1984 Release
http://www.petitiononline.com/dogstarz/petition.html
I made an online petition to Rhino Records in hopes that they will release a show from 1984. Feel free to copy and paste this in other forums or blogs.
Initial studies have concluded that repeated exposure to Grateful Dead music may be habit forming, and can result in a permanent change to the psyche of the listener. While no one has successfully reversed this condition, it can sometimes be controlled to
Stuff we can't already get
I'd like to see an emphasis on shows that don't already circulate in high quality. For starters, let's hear the tremendously underrated Hartford show from 8/2/76.
missing important show
hey now, I am asking the community to help me find a show from '87.It was July 2nd at silver stadium in Rochester,NY.my dad had died in a plane crash on June 28th and when they played He's gone I remember feeling like i was with my family in that crowd.like the band actually knew,as stupid as that sounds.any help is appreciated.Peace.
Hunter & Comfort and Dinosaurs
I'm about to order the JGB at the Warner CDs (I was there) and was hoping the Robert Hunter & Comfort sets that opened those shows would be included, but alas... (I have it on tape, but still...)
I was a big fan of that era of Hunter's. I saw Comfort maybe a half-dozen times (didn't they have a single? a cover of "Wild Night", maybe?) and was disappointed when Hunter stopped performing with a band.
The Dinosaurs opened for the Dead on a couple (at least) occasions '82-ish at the then-Oakland Auditorium, so the tapes are there, if anyone wants to transcribe them.
A show I'd Like to get
I watched Garcia/Khan/Vitt (Who else?) at the Great American Music Hall. I think it was in 1974. I'd like that moment in time to listen to.
A dozen I'd like to see/hear ...
... one from each month.
1/22/78 Uh ...
2/17/79 End of an era
3/28/73 Eyes!
4/17/71 Sold!
5/11/72 Dark Star of all Dark Stars (in length, anyhow)
6/19/68 Last Carousel ride
7/08/78 Ahoo!
8/27/72 Too much!
9/19/70 Pigpen, did you say ... ?
10/29/77 Crucial '77 show!!!
11/07/71 Pure fun!
12/30/69 Mindblower.
" Where does the time go? "
Crimson, White & Indigo
Amazon is listing an upcoming CD release by the Dead. Title is "Crimson, White & Indigo: July 7, 1989 JFK Stadium. Street date is March 30, 2010.
Any other details on this? Is this an official Rhino/Dead release?
I would say...
stay tuned, because I don't know anything official yet. But hey, I love that particular era so I'd be all for it.
new release?
its been almost three months!!! chinese new year passing, valentines passed and now mardi gras passed and still not even an announcement!!!!
nuthin
please help this junkie!!!
MID-80'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6-21-83, Merriweather Post (hottest Big Railroad ever? excellent country 1st set)7-13-84, Greek
6-27-84, Merriweather
10-12-84, Augusta, ME Civic Center
11-02-85, Richmond Coliseum
9-12-87, Capital Centre/ Landover, MD
3-26-88, Hampton?
Road Trips, Hampton & Philly '86, spring tour?
Road Trips, Hampton '87, spring tour?
'89 & 90 were great years, we get it. But they weren't in a vaccuum.
'74, '74, '74, ummm '74
I'd be happy for every show from '74 to be released. Seriously any '74 and I'd be stoked!Portland
Vancouver
Dijon
Hartford
So many more...I don't know, every time I jam a '74 off the archive I am NEVER disappointed.
Eyes, Playin', Truckin jams, jams in and out jams, jams on top of jams, MLB, whatever...everything '74 sounds good to me. Straight rippin'. Throwin' down.
Uparallelled IMHO.
Bring it on!!!
'In fact your salvation is within yourself, in your own essence of mind, it is not to be gotten grasping at external people like me.' ~ Jack Kerouac
Horton Fieldhouse, 4/24/78
I would love to see the Horton Fieldhouse show from 4/24/78 get the royal treatment. Not only do they encore/close w/ Werewolves in London but it contains one of the best Scarlet > Fire's of all time.
Black Muddy River
Any live Black Muddy River available?I find nothing!! (in the current stocks)
I guess I missed out on the download series vol 9, April 2 & 3, 1989 at the Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA. I would love a copy, if it is still available.
The only one (I remember) seeing live, was at the Worcester Centrum, also on April 2 in 1987.
My favorite song and the last Jerry sang. I sang it a few days after Jerry's death around the campfire at Forest Lake Camp in the Adirondacks. I can still hear the echo... "There's nothing left to do but count the years"
mim
I would still like to see
I would still like to see some full show releases from summer and fall of '88, perhaps the most underappreciated year ever...
why don't they...
...come up with a fun project where they give us a few shows to choose from and we make the choice. For example, they stipulate A. they will put out a new road trips release B. they will be comprised from a given set of shows and C. we get to choose it. This would be nice for a change and a diversion from the 'ol 'guess what's comin' next?' I would be so into this. What do you think?I would hope the choices would be something like: Choose your top 3 from:
anchorage '80
augusta '84
greek '82
red rocks '82
texas '81
laguna seca '87
hampton '89
vegas '91
cal expo '90
There would then be a pie chart updated real time to show the results of the voting. Shoot, they could put in a 'stealie'.
Doing something like this would certainly stimulate fan excitement and would be a fun project. After all, we are not shy to submit our opinions. It would be great to feel some sense of contribution to the decision and some sort of pay off in the end.
looking for
Foxborough,MA 1991----Jerry tried out a new guitar w/ glass strings---the most amazing sound, I've ever heard....anyone?
Hey Crispy - You mean 90 or a Garden show?
There is no Foxboro 91. The last time they played there was 90. Are you mistaking for one of the Garden show run in Boston that year?
8/5/79 Oakland Aud. Arena
The matrix of this show was done very carefully and there deserves to be follow-up from the Rhino side and a release of this one in it's entirety similar to Nightfall of Diamonds.
Note: This was a two encore show. Bertha>Good Lovin' the first encore and JBG the second.
a grateful dead video game?
It might be the last remaining audio visual frontier they have yet to explore. They could intersperse concert footage and base it on several timelines of interesting events. I'd like to see a computer game released.
Rockpalast in Essen, Germany 3-28-81
Why don't you release sth. from outside the US??? The "Rockpalast" show was incredible... the boys on foreign ground following The Who... and they did it well, folks! You could call the set list average, but... Sugaree, Shakedown, Deal, Estimated > He's gone > into a rare pre-drums O1 which ends screaming in hyperspace are worth to be officially released!! Everything after drumz is with Pete Townsend and the boys really take off during the 2nd set! No vocal glitches, no mistakes make this a very fine show...!
Glass strings
this is the first i heard of this does anyone have anymore info on this not much escapes me.
Road Trip: 06/27/84 Merriweather Post Pavillion
There's a reason David Gans has played a lot of this show on the Dead Head Hour, it's great! I strongly believe that any '84 release should contain a "Help > Slip > Franklin's" since that is representative (as a "West L.A. Fadeaway" would be representative of 1983... hint, and perhaps an "Esau", also!).
Look, 1984 is due to come up in the rotation at some point, right? Marin Vet's is OK (nice, even), but that has been around for a long time in very good quality, and it doesn't have the sizzle that this show has!!! This one's a keeper! I guarantee there will lots of praise for this representing '84! It's one of the best of the year, undoubtedly.
Thanks! Tip o' the skull to ya! Plus, there should be lots of East Coasters and D.C. Heads that will pick this up, and many people who followed that tour! "Help > Slip > Franklin's" ALWAYS draws an audience, and that Set II is off the hook (as is the "Let It Grow", one of the funkiest and most ripping versions of the 80s! Listen to it!!!). A great "Brent show", also! Peace.
6/5/69, 3/14/81
6/5/69, the show Dark Star from day 2 of the 30 day thing is taken from, is just about a no-brainer. And 3/14/81 (Althea day 3) doesn't even circulate on SBD!
Michigan show's underrated a lot skipped
From my 1st at Cobo 77, to Grand Rapids In Ann Arbor (DTE) Pine Knob then WHEN JERRY MADE THE SHERIFFS UNPLUG HIM MORE THAN ONCE. after 11pm 10k every 10 min for noise violations. He made all play he was not done. The Palace. Though vendors bailed on Detroit we have some excellent shows listen and you tell me.Smiley Dave
Do For Other's You Will Feel Better.
Guaranteed!
Releasing more shows
Not that I needed a reason to think about it, but the Contest really has me thinking about when and how the vault is going to be opened. What is undeniable upon listening to the free songs that have been available for download is how good the sound quality is. An officially released version of many of these shows would be a major upgrade to what already circulates. So when is this going to happen and how?
The when is important for 2 reasons: (1) how many years can they conceivably continue to make money on the band, and (2) isn't there some obligation to older deadheads to allow them to get these shows?
I don't know how much longer they can continue to make money off the band, but I don't think it is infinite. I think there are more deadheads passing away than there are being born. Now there definitely are kids in their teens and 20's that are being turned on to the band. But are these people really buying shows. They've grown up in a different world, where paying for music is an anachronism. I don't think they are buying like older deadheads are. I tend to think there is a limited amount of time to make money on the band.
Even if I am wrong, and there is a long time left, isn't there some obligation to the people who made the band what it is. If you were 20 in 1970, you're 60 now. I hope we all live until we are 100, but being realistic, many of the original deadheads probably only have another 20 or so years left. Even those of us that are younger (I'm 37) don't have eternity. I think the when is soon.
As to the how, running some numbers, let's say that a person wants to have 1000 shows. At $20 per show, that comes to $20,000. That's a lot of money. I'm certainly not spending that much money over a short period. Some may say that a person is not entitled to as many shows as they want. And I'd agree. But then areyou would be saying that only the wealthy deserve to have a lot of shows. I'm sure we'd all say that isn't right. So $20 per show is too expensive, which means you can't release everything on CD (which is probably not feasible anyways). So it needs to be released for download. And for much per show? MAybe $10 per show is fair, especially when Rhino would only have to remaster the show and pay for server space, and not have to pay for the CD's, the sleeves, the jewel cases, etc. Or you have yearly subscriptions, charging say $100 a year and allowing a maximum of 20 show downloads per member.
So will everything be available to download? Again probably not feasible. But uploading 100 or 200 shows per year certainly is. I would make a list, using the input of your friend the late Dick Lavala, as well as the Davids, and others, of shows that are the likeliest of possible future official releases (for which you can charge the usual $20), and NOT upload those shows. For example, for 1977, you could argue that 5/5 -5/9, 5/12, 5/17, 10/2, 10/16, 10/29, 11/4 and 12/27 would make great offical releases, and thus won't be uploaded. But everything else should be.
Needless to say, lossless and not just mp3 is an absolute must. I hope something happens soon. At the current rate of 10 shows per year, and estimating that maybe 200 shows have already been released and that there are a total of 2000 shows in the vault (which is probably not that far off), the vault will be entirely open by 2190. I feel pretty safe saying that none of us are going to be alive then. Please, get moving, take advantage of the energy this promotion has created and get the vault, or least a part of it, online ASAP. Thanks!
Something Awesome from late 1972
If you ain't got Dick's Picks 28 you ain't got nuthin between September 27, 1972 and October 19, 1973. BTW I need that DP 28 get it back in the store please please please wah wah...ok, anyway, people always say that 1972 is a well-represented year. I think that's becoming a little not quite right. 1972 is an incredible year. Yet if you add it up, there's just about as much available for 1971 as 1972. 1971 has two Road Trips, 1972 none. Yet, according to my research, and I'm a younger Dead Head, I don't have tapes, 1972 was pretty much spectacular from Europe through the end of the year. Take Dark Star. Apparently there are incredible Dark Stars from 10-18-72, 11-13-72, 11-19-72. Do a Fall 1972 Road Trips with a Dark Star theme, the way we get two half-hour Lovelights with Big Pow Wow. Or do a complete show, I'm not a stickler for complete vs. compilation...I don't think many of the younger people are...we love complete shows and we love discs loaded up with jams or 2 Dark Stars...long as the music is great we're happy. Or do Veneta or a Berkeley Community Theatre Road Trips. Just something spectacular from late 72 with Road Trips sonics. DP 11, 23, 36 are great of course but they're not enough gosh dangit!!!
Then at some point do something really great from early or mid 1973. October through December 1973 is stacked but earlier in the year is thin. 3-28-73? 6-10-73? 6-24-73?
See I see all these 80's requests. I'm sorry, I know lots of you went to shows and stuff but the younger audience wants the absolute best stuff the Grateful Dead did and that ain't the 80's, it's the late 60's and the 70's and that's that. I disagree with that guy who said you can't sell this stuff forever. Sure you can. I wasn't there, I was 14 when Jerry Garcia died. But I've got ears, and humans are always going to have ears. I don't see why Road Trips Volume 10,346 can't come out in 80 years or whatever. I agree it should be out faster, like the government should stop bombing Pakistani villagers and get people working mass producing Grateful Dead music and it should be publicly subsidized and all that. But if this is the way it's gonna be I'd just as soon buy the best music the band ever did.
Hamilton 90
Hammertown 03/21-22/90. These two shows deserve a RT's. I ain't sayin', I'm just sayin'.Peace
Hamilton '90
...or a Warlocks box style release seeing as how they are recorded on multi-track. Heck, almost every run from Fall '89 - Spring '90 would make great box sets. I'd also push for Spectrum 10/18-20/89 Miami 10/25-26/89
Forum 12/08-10/89
Oakland 12/30/89 w/ Airto + maybe New Years Eve
Nassau 03/28-30/90
Omni 04/1-3/90
Ham 90
A crazy mindbending Scarlet>Fire.The final Believe it or Not
The final Hey Jude
A fantastic Wharf Rat>Throwing Stones
and two great Dylan encores
are just a few highlights from this run. So please, powers that be. Make w/ the first release of Canadian shows.
Thanks for all you do.
10/25/73
Agree that 10/25/73 would make a fine release. GREAT show + does not circulate in pristine sound (SBD A-). I'm not so crazy about 10/30, though the Dark Star sequence would make great filler. I thought 10/27 was a better show than 10/30, and also not circulating in pristine sound. I am worried the next release is going to be 11/14/73. Another GREAT show, but circulating copy is a SBD A and doesn't need an upgrade.
New Releases and Bonus
This is a great thread! First thing I would like to see is the chance to purchase previous bonus discs- whether they are part of road trips or box sets. As a person that purchases a lot of music from this site, I am weary to purchase a road trip I missed without the bonus cd. Next, can you bring back the bulk price for Dick's picks? I remember they were once put out at a lower price if you bought a series of them. Maybe you can repackage them to make that part cheaper for yourselves and then re launch. I for one have ones that I bought in that past that are worse for wear and would like to replace, and some that I just never got around to getting.
ok shows-
1. 10/18/72 Fox Theater
2.12/31/72 Winterland - New Years, special guest David Crosby
3. San Diego 1979, Cape Cod 1979 (complete shows - I realize parts of MA are on RT)
4. Nassua 1973
Thanks!
PS the RT subscription was a great idea!
I went to see the captain, strangest I could find...
Best of Brent Mydland comp!
Don't think this warrants a box set, but def a double CD. As you know, there is a HUGE seg of the audience that are Brent-lovers and came up with that incarnation of the band. A release with best versions of the following would be killer:
Blow Away
Easy To Love You
Far From Me
Tons of Steel
Gentlemen Start Your Engines
Just A Little Light
Don't Need Love
Gimme Some Lovin
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Hey Pocky Way
Why Don't We Do It In The Road
Keep On Growin'
Devil>Molly>Devil
Louie, Louie
Throw in a Women, Rooster and Good Lovin' where he takes verse; maybe The Weight and Let The Good Times Roll, too.
People would love this!
April 21 - 23, 1969 - The Ark shows
I know '69 has been represented well but I would LOVE to see this run get the HDCD treatment.I have the shows but from an inferior source so unfortunately the sound is just not where it should be.
I also agree with BlackMuddyHiker - that song send shivers down the spine every time!
Some great suggestions.
I know that certain years get no respect, so here's a few respectable shows.
7.23.1994 Take out Samba in the Rain, and you have a confident, adventurous, well developed program. Add the pre-drums of the following night, and you've got magic. Really, this is surprisingly good for any era, in my opinion.
9.22.93 The band really took flight here. Vince had shows where he really understood. Had communication been better behind the scenes, I'm sure he would have understood a whole lot more.
12.30.89 Remove the flubbed Music, add first set highlights from 12.27.89, and the entire pre-drums as bonus.... some spectacular and unique music there. Don't forget the Iko with Clarence. Raw and off the hook!
Overall, 7.2.89 was the superior show for most of that summer. Tore that Wang Dang Doodle a new one. Purely original!
I like the choice for the new Road Trips, Denver'73. Very cool.
23rd October - Milwaukee PAC
I don't even think there is a soundboard recording of this but if there is I would like to hear it.
A friend got tickets to this and the 10/24/72 shows with the idea of finding a date to go with him. He was unsuccessful. So he offered me a ticket. I declined saying The Dead weren't that good, they couldn't sing, etc. He kept pressuring me so I went. I was so stupid before the show. It was the best concert I ever saw, over four hours long. I was amazed. I was getting tired just watching the show and the band was still up there working their butts off. I've been a Dead fan ever since. This concert is my fondest memory from my youth.
I also saw them twice at the Coliseum in Madison, WI but didn't enjoy them so much there because it a lousy place for concerts. It was designed for sporting events.
7/02/71
I just watched the closing of Fillmore West again and like it well enoguh, but the Jerry noodling on pedal and the two Dead tunes are why I watch it. Also, I've listened to the show a couple times this summer (met it some 30 years ago) and have been reminded what an intense experience it still is!Granted there is some 1st set out of tuneage, but it was temporary and, after nearly reducing their molars to rubble, they come together nicely and blow some San Franciscan minds.
It would make a great package w/ CD's and a DVD (surely there's more footage).
You could do it for Owsley, too.
" Steal Your Jazz "
Milwaukee 10/23/72
I chased the previous inquiry around and found a Charlie Miller tweaked audience recording on both the LMA and bt.eTree. I saw the Dead twice in Oct '72, and both shows were grate. I enjoyed a few 1973 shows just a little more.