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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    reseeding topic
    On further thought, I think a reseeding topic would be fine. If no one offered to reseed a vine there, a pmail could be sent with a request for a reseed to one of the folks who already got the vine. To those who have been discussing this, thanks for thinking about this stuff and furthering the cause of keeping the vines running smoothly. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    why I suggest a new topic is because most people, or at least I dont go through vine topics that i have already received and passed on. As a result, I have no idea that a vine which I already received has stalled. How am I supposed to offer to re-seed if i am not aware a vine has stalled? I suppose a pm system might work, but I don't see the harm in a separate topic asking for re-seeds. We can also post in the specific vine topic as well. A central re-seed request topic is something we can all check periodically. If I see a vine that I have, I can offer to re-seed without me continually checking each and every vine topic. We can post our offer to re-seed in the actual vine topic, as well. My opinion is to give it a shot and see if it works. However, if the community is against it, it is no big deal. I just think it will make it easier to re-seed without having to visit every topic. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I like your suggestion Pomo1
    But if we could modify #3 to what Hal is suggesting, we'll be set. Lets keep a re-seeded vine on the original thread to keep all the info in one place. Next - how do we deal with folks who cannot be reached, so they get skipped but then they show back up and want the vine that skipped them? If you have to skip someone, move their name to the bottom of the list, or to the next in line on the list? I suppose this could remain flexible but if you get skipped, you should be able to still get the vine eventually I just don't know if it is fair to have to wait until the end of the list. But that would be the easiest solution. Or the person just has to sign back up again... Then again maybe I'm making too big a deal about it?? Just thought I'd throw that out there since we are on the topic... Have a grate weekend everyone and happy vining! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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    reseeding vines topic - I am not sure if this is best as its own topic or not. After all if you already have a vine, you might not be looking through the reseed topic. I have reseeded several and the way I did it was by getting a pmail with a request for a reseed. It seems to work that way and also by posting on that vine's specific topic, thread. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    Consensus?
    1. FLAC is the preferred format, but ultimately it is up to the seeder. As in the past, people should feel free to request that someone create audio cds from a FLAC vine, and it is up to fellow viners to choose to do so. 2. Re-vining an occassional show is not prohibited, provided there is at least some justification for doing so, such as the show fits within the theme of the new vine or it is a quality upgrade. 3. There will be a separate topic for requests regarding re-seeding a stalled vine. Before re-seeding, all reasonable efforts should be made to get the vine moving. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I am not against flac. Flac all you want. In fact, I have gotten a few flac vines by accident. I thought they were CD vines. I burned them to a DVD for storage and "future" use. I just don't want to see all vines go flac--that's all.
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    I prefer flac because it ultimately puts less strain on my burner, but if my only option is burning a few cds for a show that I want, then so be it. I like flac for the quality, and for the reason I just stated. A 20 cd vine in the end, ends up being 40 cds once i get done uploading them to iTunes and then burning them, but I still love my CDS and until I get a transmitter that broadcasts my iTunes library through my stereo receiver then CDs are what I am stuck with it. Any way to listen to the Dead is better than no way!!
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    Its great to be a part of this !
    Derek, I really enjoyed your diatribe - it was quite constructive - and from the last couple of days I'm glad to see we still have a pulse out here...Y'all rock! I am a big fan of FLAC over WAV. FLAC are ridicuilously easy to manipulate with Traders's Little Helper and you can even play them back with foobar 2000 which you can get here: www.foobar2000.org Anyone who needs help using FLAC format I'm willing to work with you - PM me. As for vine duplication, it is getting harder to avoid, and in cases where only a WAV version previously circulated, FLAC would be an upgrade. Not to say that there aren't plenty of other ways to download these. And FLAC definitely takes up less space. Cosmic, what size hardhat do you wear? I am always game to reseed anything I've touched. Lonestar, thanks for doing some sleuthing - I'll reseed the 1st Anniversary Vine. I think a reasonable vine turnaround is 3-4 days with the ocassional week here and there. I'm certainly guilty of being slow now and then or failing to remember to post. But, I will never fail to answer a PM nor will I be offended if I am called on a slow turnaround - we all have the same goal - spread the music. Peace brothers and sisters! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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    Flac you! Or Compression vs. MP3/Wav
    My thought process during these Vineyard "meetings of the minds" with a lot of different opinions is; I try to put myself in that makeshift Sausalito office with unmatching squeaky chairs in a band meeting, and think - "What would Jerry say"? In my imagination of course it would go something like this: (He lights a Camel)" Listen Man, who gives a shit? If Joe-Blow (no pun intended) has a machine from the fucking "Enterprise" that will compress musical notes into macromolecules so be it. Let him flac away. If Joe-Snow (pun intended) has the original boom box from the Fat Albert show that just plays plain old CD's, well he should be able to listen to the same stuff as Blow. I don't care about the music once it leaves our stacks, but they do, so it should be made available to all." I share Jerry's opinion. Some of the community is not Flac compatible. They should not be told what they can and what they cannot get off this forum. On the other hand people that are compression friendly have the choice to sign up for a vine that is not compressed. Something Iknowurider said struck me. She said " I have a good many shows that leave a lot to be desired concerning sound quality, but over the years I guess I've felt/heard them so much that I don't even notice. UNTIL I get the primo stuff, whoo hoo!!!" I can relate. The primo stuff is UN-REAL. It is the quality I dreamed of when I had my quite large collection of scratchy fucked up cassettes. I listened to a choice few (Freedom Hall 74' I would rewind Eyes of the World over and over and over, Barton Hall 77', and Starlight Amphitheatre 85') until they were so stretched out Jerry sounded like a frog on helium or they had some form of liquid spilled and spent too many hours on a 120 degree dashboard that they would just seize up and I would be pulling spools of tape out of my Alpine! Point is, then IT DID NOT MATTER! I have never been one to like light cigarettes (quit two years ago!), light beer, or any kind of stepped on watered down shit! When I heard my first couple of compressed soundboards of shows that I had listened too a million times I WAS HOOKED! I am not a "techy" but I am figuring out how to make Flac work for me because I love the quality. That's my choice. Exploratory Data does not want to spend the time and neither does his machine. That's his choice. This community should make a pact to provide the music for anyone who has the capability to so in any modern (no LP's, 45's, 8-Tracks or cassettes please!) format. I think the reality is, it will always be up to the seeder to decide how she, or he is going to vine the show. If she or he decides to seed just a compressed version in my experience there will always be some cool person that will convert them and add the MP3's to the vine if there is a request. (These opinions of "what would Jerry say" are purely from my warped Lysergic infused brain and are not meant to make anyone think I am a totally psycho dude who thinks he's Jerry). "Say you'll come back when you can Whenever your airplane happens to land Maybe I'll be back here too It all depends on what's with you."
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    I perfer audio Wav or MP3 files. I don't have time for flac files, and it takes 1 hour to unflac/unpak 1 show on my computer. I don't have an ipod, itunes or iphone or any other "i" device. So, before the pro-Flac vigilantes take over, let me say, keep the audio CDs a coming--especially for 3 or less shows in a vine.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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Submitted by marye on Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:03

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we've had a request from people close to Brent to not vine that album, as there is some talk of releasing it. I don't know more than that but I think we need to honor it.
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:05

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if somebody wanted to do a real public service they'd dig up the tape of the Seva benefit from about the same period at the BCT where Brent was an opening act. The only known recording of "Love Doesn't Have to Be Pretty," as I recall.
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Submitted by stuman on Tue, 12/15/2009 - 19:18

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Thats cool Marye . With much respect to Brent`s familly ! I`ll be looking foward to the official release ! I`m sure it will be a better recording then the one I have .
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Submitted by timgard1 on Wed, 12/16/2009 - 20:28

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This is a pro shot live network feed of the 1997 Bill Clinton/Al Gore Inauguration ball. it is Matched up with SDB audio this dvd cuts out during eternity but is really cool. Also I do not have DVD burner so with all my trust I am sending out my personal copy. So please the first person on the list burn two copies and please send mine back (i will include a S.A.S.E.). I have gotten some really good stuff from this vine site so I just wanted to give something back, thanks alot everybody...timgard1 oh yea the band are all wearing tuxedos!! added bonus! 1/20/1997 Washington Convention Center, Washington, DC Bombs Away, Easy Answers, Walkin Blues > Youngblood, Fever*, Money*, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Kansas City, Juke, Little Red Rooster, Into the Mystic*, Horses*, Eternity// *- with Ricki Lee Jones (Vocals); The Clintons spoke after "Into the Mystic" Only ''Into the Mystic'' (Clinton Inauguration Celebration) At least I'm enjoying the ride
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Submitted by stuman on Thu, 12/17/2009 - 15:41

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Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Neil Young, Led Zeppelin inducted Waldorf Astoria Hotel New York City, New York January 12, 1995 MTV broadcast> 1st-gen stereo hi-fi vhs tape (sp speed)>Trutech dvd recorder>dvdr>nero vision >VIDEO_TS folder NTSC DVD No menu, 8 chapters, no artwork EX video and sound 1) Neil Young induction (10:35) Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam is his presenter 2) Led Zeppelin induction (10:15) Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith are presenters 3) Fuckin' Up - Neil Young with Crazy Horse and Pearl Jam (6:54) 4) Backstage talk (1:07) Chapters 5-8 are Led Zeppelin 5) Bring It On Home - with Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith (3:03) 6) Long Distance Call - with Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith (3:54) 7) Baby Please Don't Go - with Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith (4:09) 8) When The Levee Breaks - with Neil Young (8:43) Total time: 48:40 Led Zeppelin is: Jimmy Page - guitar Robert Plant - vocal John Paul Jones - bass Jason Bonham - drums (M.Lee drums on #8)
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 12/19/2009 - 06:20

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Hey now! I'll add another Furthur vine into the mix. The 5 east coast shows from December are included. Pretty nice aud recordings. As always, flac files on DVD's. I'll no doubt be doing NYE and Winter Tour vines also! Furthur December 8 and 9, 2009 Hammerstein Ballroom New York, NY December 11, 2009 Chevrolet Theater @ Oakdale Wallingford, CT December 12 and 13, 2009 Asbury Park Convention Hall Asbury Park, NJ "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Submitted by Tommo on Sat, 12/19/2009 - 13:16

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Phil Closes The Warfield 2008 Vine"Phil Plays Dead" Phil and Friends- Warfield Theatre 5/13,14,16,17,18/2008 bonus show: Greek Theatre L.A. 5/11/08 (absolutely the best Phil show I have ever seen) This is the incredible 5-night run where Phil played several Grateful Dead albums in their entirety over the first 4 nights, with the fifth night a massive 5-set show (5 sets !!!) with an evolving band lineup in each set. Very nice audience recordings of all shows, plus the official free soundboard of opening night. Thanks Phil ! These shows were vined last year, but after two attempts to send the package from Spain to me in California ( I was #1) it never arrived, so that vine died. With my shiny new high speeed internet, I downloaded the shows to rectify the situation. FLAC files on DVD's. It would take 23 audio CD's to cover everything, so to keep shipping expenses down, this will be FLAC only. --------------------------------------- Phil Lesh and Friends Greek Theatre Los Angeles, CA May 11, 2008 Neumann skm 140s->Sound Devices 722->Resample-1.8+(24/192->16/44.1khz); minor glitch fixes w/ cooledit. Set 1 : 01. Tuning, 02. Shakedown Street> 03. Jam> Friend of the Devil 04. Bertha 05. Ball and Chain 06. Beat It On Down The Line 07. Cumberland Blues 08. Sugaree Set 2: 01. New Speedway Boogie 02. Don't Let The Devil Take Your Mind 03. Jack Straw, 04. China Cat Sunflower> *"Atmospheric Transition" Jam> 05. I Know You Rider, 06. Unbroken Chain> 07. The Wheel> 08. Franklin's Tower 09. Donor Rap/Intros 10. E: Box Of Rain Phil Lesh (bass, vocals) John Molo (drums) Jackie Greene (guitar, vocals) Larry Campbell (guitar+) Steve Molitz (keys) ----------------------------------------------- Warfield Theatre 5/13/08 both audience and Phil's free soundboard copies included soundboard copy has nice CD Jacket artwork 1st set: Grateful Dead (1st album) ("Cream Puff War" featured go-go dancers!) 2nd set: Anthem of The Sun E: Not Fade Away w/ Bob Weir end of 1st set and all of 2nd ------------------------------------------------ Warfield Theatre 5/14/08 audience 1st set: Jam > Aoxomoxoa 2nd set: Jam > Live Dead E: King Bee ------------------------------------------------ Warfield Theatre 5/16/08 audience 1st set: Workingman's Dead 2nd set: Jam> American Beauty E: Truckin' (last song on American Beauty) ----------------------------------------------- Warfield Theatre 5/17/08 audience 1st set: Skull & Roses 2nd set: Dead Set donor rap came early, with Drums/Space and the last several songs from Dead Set serving as the encore ----------------------------------------------- Warfield Theatre 5/18/08 audience 1st set: (w/Bob Weir) Tuning->Come Together->Dark Star->Loose Lucy, West L.A. Fadeaway, The Wheel->Not Fade Away 2nd set: Lorene, Sing Me Back Home, Deep Elem Blues, , The Warfield Waltz, Love Please Come Home, Goodnight Irene 3rd set: Tuning & Licks, Shakedown Street, Ball & Chain, Big River, Mississippi Half Step-> Althea, Mexican Girl, Stella Blue (Instrumental), Sugaree 4th set: Ballad of Spider John, Where The Rain Don't Go, Squeeky Wheel 5th set: Tuning, Sugar Magnolia, Unbroken Chain->Mountains of the Moon->Terrapin Station-> I Know You Rider thanks warfield/ donor rap/ thanks cody/ band intros E: Wind tuning->Truckin' ------------------------------------------------------ enjoy! -Tommo
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Submitted by stuman on Sat, 12/19/2009 - 17:28

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Dead Play the Beatles Disc I Day Tripper GD 06-25-85 Come Together Dead 07-07-03 Eleanor Rigby Jam JGB 02-12-80 Tomorrow Never Knows GD 11/29/94 Blackbird Ratdog 11-09-99 Get Back PLQ 10-16-00 Why Don't We Do It In The Road GD 04-07-85 Hey Jude GD 03-22-90 *Complete version; Jude>Reprise patched together, no Fantasy Strawberry Fields Forever PLQ 02-08-02 Rain GD 10-09-94 Disc II Revolution GD 07-02-85 She Said Dead 07-07-03 Dear Prudence Reconstruction 7-8-79 I Am The Walrus PLQ 09-01-02 I Want To Tell You JGB 03-08-87 *1 of 2 JGB times played; other in '76 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds GD 03-17-95 All Too Much GD 03-26-95 While My Guitar Gently Weeps PLQ 11-30-01 *Only time played NOTES: The only changes made to the songs are getting them all to one volume level and fades. I did the best I could with fades, but some are rather abrupt due to the fact that one song goes right into the next. Overall I think it turned out good. You might consider burning this in TAO instead of DAO - I added 1 second of silence at the beginning and end of each song to separate them, but TAO is still the way to go IMHO. My reasoning for deciding which versions to include is listed below: Day Tripper GD 06-25-85 Suggested by David Gans Come Together Dead 07-07-03 Suggested by a fellow CDead member. He said that he believed that Joan's super hot performance got this one going. Eleanor Rigby Jam JGB 02-12-80 One of very few. All are ragged. Chose this one as one of best. Tomorrow Never Knows GD 11/29/94 Suggested to me by someone on the CDead group I think. Blackbird Ratdog 11-09-99 One I had.... The two GD versions really sucked Get Back PLQ 10-16-00 Not played much, GD version very poor Why Don't We Do It In The Road GD 04-07-85 Well, it IS a Beatles song...less lame than the others (I was almost tempted to leave it off entirely) Hey Jude GD 03-22-90 *Complete version; Jude>Reprise patched together, dropping "Dear Mr. Fantasy" entirelly; There is a slight "hitch" between Jude and the Reprise but I left it as is to keep as much music as possible without including "Fantasy." I had originally thought of using the 3/1/69 version, but David Gans suggested this one as the better choice. Even though the '69 one has Pigpen, this one is better. Strawberry Fields Forever PLQ 02-08-02 Pretty hot version, although a bit hollow; it also features some interesting hints to Eleanor Rigby. Rain GD 10-09-94 I perused The Compendium Volume III and found this to be one of the better versions, which, upon hearing it, it is. DISC II Revolution GD 07-02-85 I listened to all of the versions, and this one shone above the rest. I could have sworn that there was a really good one from '90, but, when I listened, well, I guess I was mistaken. She Said Dead 07-07-03 Joan smokes on this puppy! Dear Prudence Reconstruction 7-8-79 Suggested here as a good version in lieu of the later JGB versions - it has pretty much what he played with the JGB, with horns, and back when he was healthy. All Too Much GD 03-26-95 Someone here suggested this one. I Want To Tell You JGB 03-08-87 *1 of 2 JGB times played; The '76 version is ragged which is a shame as Donna and Keith were part of the JGB back then. I to go with a JGB version instead of the GD versions as Jerry was in much better health. Also, the JGB allowed him to stretch out in a different direction. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds GD 03-17-95 Best version according to The Compendium Volume III. I Am The Walrus PLQ 09-01-02 - personal favorite, I attended and we believed that PLQ was not going to tour anymore.... While My Guitar Gently Weeps PLQ 11-30-01 Bitter sweet to hear this one as it was the day after George died. It was only played once; I wish they had included this in their repertoire, or at least pulled it out every so often as a surprise. Warren does this one "just exactly perfect." My notes on this . This is a sweet compilatoin here . something i picked up on LL. I converted and burned to CDR WAV. I did not change anything. (in regards to burn note above) Any Beatles - Dead fan should love this one I hope you all enjoy !! Many thank go out to everyone who contributed to this beutiful compilation !! Stu ..
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Submitted by stuman on Sat, 12/19/2009 - 19:50

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well nevermind then. i wonder why i did`nt sign up for it then hmm .. just delete my post mary .
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Submitted by marye on Sun, 12/20/2009 - 17:24

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I'll just ignore it... I'm going to be traveling tomorrow so there will probably be a it of a delay getting this posted. Please bear with me...
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sun, 12/20/2009 - 19:50

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Hope you have a fantastic Christmas. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Tue, 12/22/2009 - 19:18

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I don’t think that any of these shows have been vined yet, if they have let me know. As of right now this is going to be a 2 part vine. Look for part 2 in a week or two. Flac/Shn files on 6 CD-R’s. Includes – gd84-04-23.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.32536.sbeok.flac16 gd84-06-26.sbd.fix.miller.87625.sbeok.flac16 gd84-06-30.sbd.partial.finney.2542.sbeok.shnf Grateful Dead - April 23, 1984 New Haven Coliseum - New Haven, CT Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette (TDK SA-X90 / Maxell XLIIS-90) Transfer Info: Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 22, 2006 Notes: -- Thanks to Paul Scotton and Joani Walker for the Cassettes -- Drums and Encore patched from (FOB) ATM2s-> Cass Master -> CD -- Seamless transition between discs 2 and 3 -- This is an upgrade to all previous circulating sbd's Set 1: d1t01 - Jack Straw d1t02 - Sugaree d1t03 - Cassidy d1t04 - Dupree's Diamond Blues d1t05 - Hell In A Bucket d1t06 - Might As Well Set 2: d2t01 - Iko Iko d2t02 - Lost Sailor -> d2t03 - Saint Of Circumstance -> d2t04 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t05 - Only A Fool -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - Spanish Jam -> d3t03 - Truckin' -> d3t04 - Black Peter -> d3t05 - Around And Around -> d3t06 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t07 - Day Job Grateful Dead - June 26, 1984 Merriweather Post Pavilion - Columbia, MD Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette -> Dat (48k) Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Samplitude Professional v9.11 -> Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net October 8, 2007 Patch Info: Sennheiser 421 -> Cassette Master -> CD (By R. Pauline) supplies: Tennessee Jed (3:10 - 5:24) Space (7:40 - 9:57) Crowd/Tuning (complete track) Day Job (0:00 - 0:03) Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Cool Edit Pro used for pitch correction -- Added patch to Tennessee Jed (missing from previous seed) -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with this project Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Casey Jones d1t03 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t04 - Althea d1t05 - Cassidy d1t06 - Tennessee Jed -> d1t07 - Looks Like Rain d1t08 - Might As Well Set 2: d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t02 - I Know You Rider d2t03 - Man Smart (Woman Smarter) -> d2t04 - He's Gone -> d2t05 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - Don't Need Love -> d3t03 - Truckin' -> d3t04 - Wang Dang Doodle -> d3t05 - Stella Blue -> d3t06 - Around And Around -> d3t07 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t08 - Crowd/Tuning d3t09 - Keep Your Day Job Grateful Dead Indianapolis Sportscenter Indianapolis, In 6/30/84 SBD>MC>DAT>CDR Disc One, 74:12 1. Lost Sailor > 2. St of Circumstance > 3. Deal (end set 1) 4. Shakedown Street > 5. Playin in the Band > 6. Terrapin Station > 7. Drums/ Space > Disc Two 43:52 1. Space Dripping > 2. Space meets Jerry > 3. Playin in the Band > 4. Truckin > 5. Spoonful > 6. Stella Blue > 7. Going Down the Road Feeling Bad > 8. One More Saturday Night 9. E: Keep Your Day Job/ NOTES: From the Merry Prankster Tree round 5, SHN branch Disc 1 9. drums cut @ 3:24 Disc 2 2. 2 static bursts @ 2:06 4. Whistle to start song, and "Sweet Jane gets a sex change" 9. song cuts at 2:40 "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by pomo1 on Wed, 12/23/2009 - 06:53

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Thanks, but isn't it time Santa left you a DVD burner? :>) "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Mon, 12/28/2009 - 18:48

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3 new Charlie Miller SBD’s from 1972. I came across a Europe show that hadn’t been vined here yet. Flac files on 5 CD-R’s. Includes – gd72-01-02.08709.sbd.miller.sbeok.t-flac16 gd72-03-05.sbd.miller.103282.flac16 gd72-04-16.18103.sbd.miller.sbeok.t-flac16 Winterland Arena San Francisco, Ca 01-02-1972 gd72-01-02.sbd.miller.8709.sbeok.flac16 updated lineage: Soundboard Master >Reel Master> Reel > CD > SonicSolutions Workstation > CD> SHN [had been marked] Soundboard Master > Reel > CD > SonicSolutions Workstation > CD> SHN] ______________________________________________________________________________________ --Set 1 / Disc 1-- --[72:57]-- 101-d1t01 - Truckin [09:31] 102-d1t02 - Sugaree [07:22] 103-d1t03 - Mr. Charlie [04:28] 104-d1t04 - Beat It On Down The Line [03:11] 105-d1t05 - Loser [06:23] 106-d1t06 - Jack Straw [05:10] 107-d1t07 - Chinatown Shuffle [02:55] 108-d1t08 - Tennessee Jed [07:07] 109-d1t09 - El Paso [04:29] 110-d1t10 - You Win Again [03:35] 111-d1t11 - Big Railroad Blues [04:13] 112-d1t12 - Mexicalli Blues [03:44] 113-d1t13 - Playing In The Band [06:04] 114-d1t14 - Next Time You See Me [04:45] --Disc 2-- 115-d2t01 - Brown-Eyed Women [04:25] 116-d2t02 - Casey Jones [05:02] --Set 2-- 201-d2t03 - Good Lovin' -> [14:31] 202-d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> [03:32] 203-d2t05 - Good Lovin' [03:35] 204-d2t06 - Ramble On Rose [06:31] 205-d2t07 - Sugar Magnolia [07:52] 206-d2t08 - Not Fade Away -> [05:13] 207-d2t09 - Going Down The Road Feeling Bad -> [06:52] 208-d2t10 - Not Fade Away [03:40] --Encore-- 209-d2t11 - One More Saturday Night [04:56] --[66:09]— Grateful Dead - March 5, 1972 Winterland - San Francisco, CA Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette -> Cassette -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> Samplitude Professional v10.22 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net December 8, 2009 Notes: -- Note updated source info (but still can not confirm) -- That's Wavy Gravy at the beginning of China Cat Sunflower -- Mind Left Body Jam in Good Lovin' -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction Set One: d1t01 - Bertha d1t02 - Black Throated Wind d1t03 - Mr. Charlie d1t04 - Sugaree d1t05 - Greatest Story Ever Told d1t06 - Next Time You See Me d1t07 - Tennessee Jed d1t08 - Jack Straw d1t09 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t10 - I Know You Rider d1t11 - Mexicali Blues d1t12 - You Win Again d1t13 - El Paso d1t14 - Casey Jones Set Two: d2t01 - Good Lovin' d2t02 - Not Fade Away -> d2t03 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d2t04 - Not Fade Away Encore: d2t05 - One More Saturday Night Grateful Dead 4/16/72 Stakladen - Aarhus University Aarhus, Denmark gd72-04-16.sbd.miller.18103.sbeok.flac16 Lineage: Set 1: SBD>Rm>?>Cass>Sound Forge>SHN Set 2: SBD>Rm>Dat>Sonic Solutions>CD>EAC>Samplitude>SHN Set 2 Conversion and Editing By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net 6/12/03 --Set 1-- 101-d1t01 - Greatest Story Ever Told 102-d1t02 - Sugaree 103-d1t03 - Chinatown Shuffle 104-d1t04 - Black Throated Wind 105-d1t05 - Tennessee Jed MISSING - Mr. Charlie MISSING - Beat It On Down the Line 106-d1t06 - China Cat Sunflower -> 107-d1t07 - I Know You Rider 108-d1t08 - Mexicali Blues 109-d1t09 - Loser MISSING - Next Time You See Me 110-d1t10 - Playing in the Band MISSING - Dire Wolf --Set 2-- 201-d2t01 - Good Lovin' 202-d2t02 - Cumberland Blues 203-d2t03 - El Paso 204-d2t04 - Deal 205-d3t01 - Truckin -> 206-d3t02 - The Other One Jam -> 207-d3t03 - Me & My Uncle -> 208-d3t04 - The Other One -> 209-d3t05 - Not Fade Away -> 210-d3t06 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> 211-d3t07 - Not Fade Away reprise "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Sat, 01/02/2010 - 07:59

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Following up NYE here is a vine to start the new year off right... Some good 72 material (9/30/72 was vined at some point but I am including anyway) and a good 84 show of which there is very little listed in the vinedex.. All good shows and a nice follow up to TNHG 72 SBDs vine. Note the academy of music show is NOT on the dick's picks cd. Happy new year to the vine and enjoy... First on the list send me a PM with name/addy. By the way if anyone out there has the following shows and can either vine/trade let me know... 4/7/72, 5/7/72, 5/23/72, 5/24/72. Peace, Marty Grateful Dead - March 23, 1972 Academy of Music - New York, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Apogee AD500 -> Dat (48k) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller Set 1: d1t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t02 - I Know You Rider d1t03 - Black Throated Wind d1t04 - Chinatown Shuffle d1t05 - Brown Eyed Women d1t06 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t07 - Cumberland Blues d1t08 - Looks Like Rain d1t09 - Mr. Charlie d1t10 - Tennessee Jed d1t11 - El Paso d2t01 - You Win Again d2t02 - Jack Straw d2t03 - Next Time You See Me d2t04 - Playing In The Band d2t05 - Comes A Time d2t06 - Me And Bobby McGee d2t07 - Casey Jones Set 2: d2t08 - Tuning d2t09 - Truckin' d2t10 - Ramble On Rose d3t01 - Two Souls In Communion d3t02 - Mexicali Blues d3t03 - Dark Star d3t04 - Big Boss Man d3t05 - Not Fade Away -> d3t06 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d3t07 - Not Fade Away d3t08 - Crowd Encore: xxxxx - Sugar Magnolia (MISSING) Grateful Dead August 12 1972 Memorial Coliseum Sacramento, CA 16 bit 44.1 version master reel @7.5ips> J.Garcia's reel @ 3.75ips > Will Boswell's reel @ 3.75ips > Apogee DAC> Apogee Mini Me > Wavelab 5.0 Transferred by Matt Smith Set One Disc 1 01. |03:24| The Promised Land 02. |07:24| Sugaree 03. |01:41| "Emancipate us from your flasbulbs" 04. |03:11| Me And My Uncle 05. |01:11| " what's the matter, aint loud enough for ya? " 06. |11:00| Bird Song 07. |02:02| "the furthur back ya are, the better the sound is" 08. |06:45| Black Throated Wind 09. |00:49| tuning 10. |05:29| Deal 11. |01:01| tuning 12. |03:14| El Paso// 13. |02:46| //Tennessee Jed 14. |01:38| Keith and Donna introductions 15. |13:12| Playing In The Band 16. |03:36| " sounds like they'd rather have somethin rockin " 17. |04:25| Big Railroad Blues 18. |01:00| Tuning Disc 2 19. |07:06| Cumberland Blues 20. |01:04| tuning 21. |07:47| Stella Blue!! 22. |00:39| tuning 23. |03:56| Jack//Straw 24. |07:01| Casey Jones Set Two 25. |05:22| Greatest Story Ever Told 26. |06:53| Ramble On Rose 27. |01:40| " 22? It's gotta be under 20, otherwise the union won't go for it " 28. |03:16| Beat It On Down The Line 29. |09:21| He's Gone > Disc 3 30. |02:42| Drums > 31. |16:57| The Other One > 32. |09:05| Black Peter > 33. |03:47| The Other One 34. |11:57| Truckin' 35. |01:39| Tuning 36. |06:37| Mississippi Half Step 37. |06:04| Sugar//Magnolia Encore 38. |05:17| One More Saturday Night Grateful Dead 9/30/72 Soccer Field American University Washington, D.C. Master 7" Soundboard Reels @ 7 1/2 ips > Cassette > DAT> CDR CD Mastering by Scott Clugston some hiss but still nice Disc 1 1st Set 1. Promised Land 2. Deal 3. Mexicali Blues 4. Sugaree 5. Black Throated Wind 6. China Cat Sunflower> 7. I Know// You Rider 8. El Paso 9. Bird Song 10.Big River Disc 2 1. Loser 2. Playin' in //the Band 3. Casey Jones 2nd Set 4. Greatest Story Ever Told 5. He's Gone 6. Me & My Uncle 7. Brokedown Palace Disc 3 1. Truckin'> 2. The Other One> 3. Sing Me Back Home 4. Sugar Magnolia 5. Mississippi Half-Step 6. Uncle John's Band Encore One More Saturday Night (missing) Grateful Dead - July 4, 1984 Five Seasons Center - Cedar Rapids, IA Recording Info: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Cassette -> Dat (48k) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller Patch Info: Sennheiser 421 -> Master Cassette -> Dat -> CD (shnid=14194) supplies: Far From Me (0:00 - 0:15) Space (4:39 - 7:22) Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- This is a remastering of my previous seed (shnid=27761) -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction Set 1: d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t02 - Friend Of The Devil -> d1t03 - C C Rider d1t04 - Cumberland Blues -> d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Row Jimmy d1t07 - Hell In A Bucket -> d1t08 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Help On The Way -> d2t02 - Slipknot! -> d2t03 - Franklin's Tower -> d2t04 - Far From Me d2t05 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t06 - He's Gone -> d2t07 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - Truckin' -> d3t03 - Wharf Rat -> d3t04 - Around And Around -> d3t05 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t06 - U.S. Blues
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Mon, 01/04/2010 - 03:03

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Well since gdhead77 just vined 7/4/84 it just makes it a little easier for me. Flac files on 4 CD-R’s. Includes – gd84-11-03.sbd.greenberg.21761.sbeok.shnf gd84-12-31.sbd.miller.32347.flac16f Grateful Dead 11/03/84 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, CA MSP > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D EAC & SHN conversion by John Mollman from Jim Powell's seeds Sector Boundaries verified w/ shntool Disc #1: 57:07 Set I 1. --preamble-- [0:28] 2. Alabama Getaway [6:35] > 3. Promised Land [7:12] 4. FOTD [10:39] 5. Down in the Bottom [8:34] 6. It Must Have Been the Roses [5:26] 7. The Music Never Stopped [9:03] > 8. Deal [9:08] 9. "we'll be back" [0:05] Disc #2: 48:54 Set II 1. Feel Like A Stranger [9:51] 2. Cumberland Blues [6:06] 3. Gloria [8:48] > 4. Why Don't We Do it in the Road [6:00] > 5. Jam [5:12] > 6. Drums [12:49] Disc #3: 55:16 1. Space [12:10] > 2. Uncle John's Band [11:47] > 3. Dear Mr. Fantasy [6:57] > 4. Throwing Stones [9:26] > 5. Lovelight [9:05] 6. --outro-- [0:12] ENCORE 7. --dead air-- [0:05] 8. Brokedown Palace [5:32] 9. --outro-- [0:05] Grateful Dead - December 31, 1984 Civic Center - San Francisco, CA Recording Info: FM -> Master Reel (1/4 Track 7.5ips Dolby B Tandberg Deck) -> Dat Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Recorded By Bob Menke Dat Supplied By David Gans Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 1, 2006 Notes: -- Seamless transition between discs 2 and 3. -- Reel flips in Bird song and Drums patched with FM source pulled from LMA. -- Cool Edit Pro used to make minor level adjustments. -- I removed all DJ chatter that wasn't over the music. Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Shakedown Street d1t03 - New Minglewood Blues d1t04 - Peggy-O d1t05 - Jack Straw -> d1t06 - Bird Song d1t07 - Hell In A Bucket -> d1t08 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Sugar Magnolia -> d2t02 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t03 - Fire On The Mountain -> d2t04 - Man Smart (Woman Smarter) -> d2t05 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - Spanish Jam -> d3t03 - The Wheel -> d3t04 - Throwing Stones -> d3t05 - Turn On Your Lovelight Set 3: d3t06 - Gimme Some Lovin' -> d3t07 - Uncle John's Band -> d3t08 - Around And Around -> d3t09 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."