MAY 1977: Get Shown The Light Box

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION
SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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June 10, 2017 - 11:51am

#11

icecrmcnkd

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stillz

The number is on the back of the red book
June 10, 2017 - 8:34am

#12

stillz5477

Joined:
June 10, 2017

"Numbered" - where!?

my other may 77 box set has a STAMPED number...3407/5000 or whatever - not seeing this stamped on the "limited, numbered" cornell get shown the light one - am i blind?? help!
May 16, 2017 - 4:08am

#13

Craysee1

Joined:
September 4, 2015

my 2 pennies

Cornell IS a good show. Cornell was a great tape rollin' around back in the day because of quality of sound... I think it was one of the more crystal clear shows I'd heard up to that point... All of May, shoot... the overwhelmingly GRAND majority of '77 was unbelievable! There are many "best" versions or among the best versions of singular songs throughout that whole month span....and many in this 4 night run. ’77, while fantastic for deadheads, is what I consider “tolerable” go to dead for non-heads… such as my better half. She’s never been passionate about the dead. So, I have always felt pretty good about playing anything from ’77, especially May, when we’re on a road trip or something. The sound is great, playing is great… vocals are pretty much as good as it ever got and mistakes are minimal and not very noticeable to a non-head. Same goes for 89-90… Another May '77 note- The whole band is tight but Bob is at one of the many peaks of his game. Bob's attention to his songs and detail is unparalleled. He's sooo good during this time frame. However, I'm more of a fan of the following night in Buffalo as a full show goes. Cornell>Buffalo – the best two shows in a row…. Possibly. ☺ All of that being said.. this box is a tremendous representation of what the best of the best looks, feels, and sounds like. And, well done on the box. Excited to crack the book and see what's beyond the music. 5/5 - Veterans - The 1st set is better than the second set... Sugaree > unreal. Cowboy tunes(mama tried, el paso) are spot on and energetic. Looks Like Rain > stunning. 2nd set is great but seems to drop in energy… highlights - Good Lovin', St. Stephen, Sugar Mag 5/7 - Boston- Fantastic 1st set- very well played - Peggy O,1/2 step!, Big river, Music Never Stopped - 2nd set - Great Terrapin- A Top 10 FOTD(in my opinion), the wheel>wharf>around stretch is stellar. 5/8 - Cornell - Great show - solid start - 1st set really gets cookin' around TLEO and Jack Straw. Lazy>Sup is great but Jerry has been better on others. He makes up for it on the Brown Eyed Women...(one of the best). Dancin is great.. (Palladium is still tops for me). 2nd set is extremely well played - Scarlet > fire .. the best ever? (I dunno… but it’s ridiculous). Estimated… tell me a bad estimated from May… St. Stephen> NFA>St. Stephen – solid… MORNING DEW!!!! Holy Smokes!!!! 5/9 – Buffalo – wow. wow. holy, wow. Out of the gate chasing, running down, and lapping the night before. The band is HOT and they know it. A nasty Help > Slip> Franklin’s. Slipknot is magnificent. Cassidy,BEW, Mex, Big River… whole first set is crackling with energy… Shoot… Donna even raised her Sunrise game. TMNS set closer is just plain fire. 2nd set is phenomenally played. The band stretches out a bit more that some of the other textbook 77 nights. Garcia is oozing passion – Bertha opener..Ship of fools, Comes a time… he’s in it to win it. The pocket Estimated>Other One> NFA is adventurous and the band is so dialed in. They are so intent on being one… vocals and all. You know it’s good when they get past the music and can really lean in on making the vocals “just right”. Uncle John’s Band is a great example of that and a great closer. Unreal…. Wish I was there.
May 13, 2017 - 8:16pm

#14

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

No more live Dead CDs?

While it's true that pretty much the top historically and popularly coveted shows are now released (5/8/77, 8/27/72, E'72, FW'69, 3/39/90, 2/13/70, 10/9/89, 10/16/89, 10/26/89, 9/10/91 just to name a few) have been released, there's so much more that are just as enjoyable to listen to. I think we need a good Greek Theater, Giants Stadium or Autzen Stadium release next. Did they have video screens at the '90 Autzen Stadium shows? DVDs would be really sweet. That magical Spring '90 tour mojo was still going strong on that West Coast late spring/early summer run.
May 13, 2017 - 6:48pm

#15

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: What Do We Do Now and 'a fine whiskey in the jar'

You guys crack me up.. What a great thread at the moment.
May 13, 2017 - 4:24pm

#16

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

back to the Meat Puppets thread

Last night the Pups made their annual stop at one of the smallest clubs in Boston, The Brighton Music Hall. I had the pleasure of hanging with Curt, Chris and Elmo for about 30 minutes in the smoking area behind the venue. They seemed to like what I was smoking and were chatty as I kept lighting new ones.I got to ask them about a lot of stuff and requested Franklin's Tower, but Curt said he was the only one that would remember it. He did say that he still goes on GD binges for days at a time and his favorite stuff is the Pigpen years. They never played or even teased Franklin's but did a fine Whiskey in the Jar. Country Punk at it's finest. Here's one from the night before, the 11th, in Portland Me, though Ted the taper got the date wrong on the posting ;) https://archive.org/details/meatpuppets2017-05-12.ck61.nbox.sbd.flac/me…
May 13, 2017 - 12:00pm

#17

Mr. Pete

Joined:
November 3, 2010

No more live dead cd's....

Since Cornell is "finally" released and considered to be the "best" dead show I guess we all can now relax and not buy anymore "second best" dead live cd's. What do we do now? Live Pink Floyd show??? Mr. Pete----------> aging hippie
May 13, 2017 - 7:11am

#18

Amy from New York

Joined:
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Balancing out 1977 with some 1970

I am really glad I bought this box, and luckily with no problems. The Buffalo show, while I can't say it's my favorite, is a real stand-out. A show that opens with Help Slipknot! Franklin's is just a sign of what's to come next. From that and a great Big River and Brown Eyed, throw in a Mississippi Half-Step -- travel on to a mind-melding Estimated Other One with perhaps the sweetest Comes a Time I've ever heard. And everything in between; but those are the highlights.My favorite version of Peggy-O is the New Haven one...I think that would be my go-to track to turn someone on to the Dead for the first time. It's so richly beautiful with crunchy and creamy layers of Deadness baked right inside. In the midst of finding the time to really listen to these four shows, I was directed by friend living on the Left Coast to 11/8/70 -- Lovely early acoustic versions of Dire Wolf, I know Your Rider (slow and melodic a real treat), and the last Operator. Event continues with NRPS on the stage, and then a Dead electric set. I'm glad for being able to continue to poke around some to find these amazing gems in the Dead archives. But nothing beats the sound of these newly mixed releases from the vault. I'll have my cake and eat it too!
May 13, 2017 - 6:01am

#19

_

Joined:
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Mr. Pete

Pm me your email and I can hook you up with it.
May 13, 2017 - 5:53am

#20

Mr. Pete

Joined:
November 3, 2010

May '77 cd artwork...

Hello, When downloading my May '77 cd's into my mac I noticed that the cover art was absent. Could someone tell me where I can get the individual cd cover art? Thanks! Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

May '77:Get Shown The Light Box

What a sad waste of time this has been. As a loyal customer all these years, I turn and walk away.

I wonder

all i can say is the system

all i can say is the system sucks but it is spitting confirmed orders out. The ups are on amazon at the same price for anyone looking to get them.

I wonder

I wonder if perhaps the "system" thinks that most of the sets are allocated through all of those that are in carts of transactions which can't be completed.I got as close as putting in all my information only to be kicked back to the cart...this has been going on for hours now. As far as caring about this mess, I don't think that TPTB do or will. We are a "captive" audience. They shit on us and we keep coming back... If anyone should be embarrassed or ashamed it should be Dave LeMieux. He is the face of these projects and as much as I appreciate his efforts up front culling the music together, their inability to seal the deal sucks.

Pathetic And Sorry

I'm done. Out of patience. I've given it more than enough of my time. Bye.

Amazon

The fact that the Cornell show can be easily pre-ordered on Amazon while we stew over here is almost doubly infuriating. And this is overpriced, as many of these have been with the exception of the '72 box.

THANKS!

Thanks for the tip Scott!! I just picked up the 5LP set on Amazon. Doesn't look like Amazon has the multi-show box though. Too bad. GDnet should just outsource their entire ridiculous shitshow of purchase/fulfillment to Amazon -- or to almost literally anyone else who would do a better job than we're seeing here today.

still forbidden

trying to let derek trucks take me to a happy place on the commute home and try again later

What A Laugh

First my account (which I haven't used in years) was disabled and I needed to re-register. The I got four sets in my cart. The I corrected this. Then I tried to check out. and here I sit trying to spend money on music which was publicly available until the greed took over which is about the same time my account went dormant. I don't know why I fell for yet another cash grab. I'm out. I'll dig out my CD-R copies of the show I downloaded from the archive years ago and wish all those struggling with the mess well.

What a terrible experience

I've been trying for hours now on this pathetic excuse for an e-commerce site. Might as well go back to Mail order for these releases. The issue seems to be when the cart tries to figure out the taxes for your state from the delivery info dialog box. That is if you can get that far without getting bounced or forbidden. I've been staring at a spinning circle for a while now waiting for tax info to fill in so I can move to the payment options. Add more clouds or something this seems like an easy fix.

403 Forbidden

I've been Forbidden for hours now. this stinks. looks like digital download

What A Laugh

May 5th

2017 ship date hopefully we'll be able to order before May 5, 2017

Just ordered Phish's '93 St. Louis box on their site....

....took me all of 38 seconds. I believe that box was announced today as well....

I don't know what's worse...

The release of more shows that are available in stellar quality or the whining going on here. Some of you are acting like you're trying to order life saving medication for your children

may 77

I am totally frustrated.. beyond frustrated gonna try in early AM!! don't think its sold out

May 5th

eBay will have plenty available!!!!! I "thought" I preordered but alas my order did not go through, no biggie eBay will save the day. WTF is going on?!!!! I don't think TPTB were expecting this we in the know knew that once these shows were put up here the system was going to get taxed to the max. UNHAPPY THURSDAY!!!!!

What's worse...

Trolls... for sure

Been at this since two minutes after email went out:(

I managed to get many many of these things into my cart throughout the day but couldn't ever get through payment page. Now on different computers at home and can't even get one in my cart. Total bs and a big waste of my day. Why am I still trying......?

who ever that seaside chat kid is

I know you got some high level connections. But it appears to me and some others you have no buisness sense. contact me I would like to help. I am a old dead head with a KU education. The deal is you really messed this up. sorry. US DEAD HEADS once again could not get close to a release we MADE HAPPEN> so it is sad for US. But if you get a hold of me I can help you run a business much better. THE DEAD ALWAYS GOT PROPS FOR THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. IT APPEARS YOU CARE NOTHING ABOUT THAT. I would love to have a seaside chat that fixed some of the buiness problems you and you people create. DEAD HEADS SHOULD BE REVERED NOT BROKEN on a computer chasing what was thiers to begin with.

first world problems folks

Lets keep things in perspective... this does not suck, cancer sucks....

WTF

Trying for hours - getting worse. A few times put all information in and bam, dumped out and no order. This is the worst experience I have ever had purchasing anything from Dead.net and I have had some bad ones. I guess I may not get this box. I am not sure I can keep trying - have been at it 5 hours!!!

Cornell 77

A general release. Will buy on amazon. To hell with your over priced box set. Which I would have bought but can't. Shame on you.

This is maddening

I've been trying to order almost non-stop for 4+hours. This is really stupid.

Rhino taking over

I just got kicked over to a Rhino-based checkout and checked out there. Confirmation secured. Best of luck to everyone.

No matter what I try to order....

it's all "forbidden". My guess....Warnermusic doesn't need customers.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

Finally!! It only took 4 plus hours, but it went thru!! Keep trying folks.....

Go directed to a Rhino site

Unfortunately I had five in the cart at that time. I could tell something was different about it and I didnt want to risk updating the cart, so I wound up buying five. Shit, my wife is going to KILL me.

Rhino saves day!

Was just kicked to a Rhino site as well! Went through and received email confirmation. Hopefully they can handle the traffic now, good luck!

1st comment ever

Lack of foresight, lack of preparation, grossly underestimated and I'm going down the road feeling bad. :-( Apologies for adding to the gloom but I'm sad.

Moved to Rhino

Just got re-directed to a secure Rhino page and was able to complete my order. Scott

rhino

how do you talk to rhino ?

So happy to see Rhino !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got conformation through Rhino. Looks like same website but with Rhino logo. It is working now. Could have done without the drama today. But I am now GRATEFUL!

Got it!

Rhino indeed!

Pre Ordering

Maybe they have a release date in May so they can get all the orders sorted by then.On hopes Warners is reading all of this and the other comments sites. Okay so their store can't handle it but what about some communication with their base. How hard would it be to send an email to the list with a simple and clear explanation of what is happening, is it sold out, are thousand of copies sitting in our carts, etc. and what to do from here. Do we all stop for an hour or so while they fix the problem? I once managed to get through to the checkout stage to find nearly 20 copies in my cart and git the error message when I tried to update. Three times got to the final check out confirm order when it reverted to the Add to Cart page. This should not be hard, just fix it or we will just forget it and download the Flac files from Pirate Bay.

Get shown the light

Finally, 5 hours later...Rhino to the rescue. Once they came on line got my order through in 5 minuets!

Order

I tried with Mozilla Firefox, with UBlock turned off, Forbidden 403. I tried Opera and placed my order. My order got done although it wasn't Amazon. Amazon takes my money much quicker. Got my order confirmation too, looks like I might be number 2969. Still getting 403 Forbidden with Firefox.

Don't give up yet

I just got through (redirected to a rhino check out page I think)...try again if you had trouble. I'm so relieved...

New Rhino order form

order went through--seems the ship has been righted!

Switch to RHINO store?

Well, after 3 hours of pure agonizing digital torture, finally got thru...but it patched me thru to the RHINO store? So let's hope that's a legitimate site. Hang in there, guys. It's NOT sold out. However,Tech guys need to be severely reprimanded. This is not how to treat captive, diehard fans. And it's not like this is a new thing, there's ALWAYS been crashiness with the shitty servers or bad coding, whatever. Do better, guys. Don't be greedy. You know the demand is out there and there's no need for limiting pressings. DO BETTER!

Scarlet/Fire Download

I have listened to this show many times, from many sources. The download of scarlet-->fire gave me goosebumps. I'm hearing things I never noticed. Such sweet ear nectar to soothe my frazzled mind after 4 hours of anxiety about missing out.

Get Shown The Light ordering

Tried for hours. Finally. Logged into account and tried and tried. Cart popped up once with 3 sets then disappeared. Did get a set ordered. Happy now. Good luck.

Works Now....

Order goes through Rhino..that was new and different.

It's working much better now

Yes, they're now kicking you to the Rhino checkout page. Much smoother. Keep trying!

Rhino!

Thank you Rhino. Saving the day one awesome purchase at a time. Keep Trying everyone. It's working now!

Rhino!

Thank you Rhino. Saving the day one awesome purchase at a time. Keep Trying everyone. It's working now!

77 Box

Like most of us I have been to countless shows and own most of what has been released including all box sets. My wife and I spent most the day being disconnected from the phone system and getting all the way to checkout only to have everything go wrong. I wanted 1 box and 1 vinyl. I took a screen shot of my attempted order and mailed it to them. Perhaps that will count for something. What is the matter with these people. A buddy at work did not understand my anger and finally I said "this is not about business this is about family and our family being abused". Still not sure he understood but THEY should. Some nice 86 shows from the HJK just got uploaded to YouTube. I was at this run of shows. Good times with good people-family. Let's hope the powers that be recognize the magnitude of this mistake and make it right.

Just got mine!

Keep trying!. I've just managed to complete my order of the 11-CD boxed set, and I received a confirmation email, after many many failed attempts. This has been a debacle for sure, but at least it's not yet sold out. If it's any help, I found Chrome worked best for me; I was also trying MS Edge and Firefox. The boxed set is over-priced (particularly when I factor in the almost inevitable customs charges to the UK), but once in a while you've got to just pull the trigger. Good luck everyone!

Had It, then Bupkis

I finally was able to get to my cart, delete the 2nd copy that was put there due to multiple rejections, and fill out all but the delivery method, which was greyed out with a "waiting" circle. I dutifully waited and then got timed out. 30 minutes later I got that far again but Delivery was still not functional. Now I can't even get to my cart. Hopefully someone may have taken the cart down to fix the problem Hope so. These are trying times, indeed.

DONT GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It just took me 5 PLUS HOURS, of clicking and refreshing and 403 forbiddens and retrys and different browsers with my eyes straining and a massive headache!!!!!!! But i finally got thru with an order number!!!!!! You will eventully get your order in!!! BTW......You suck Rhino!!!!!

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