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    ALL MUSIC EDITION

    SOLD OUT

    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • nitecat
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    When I was following the band, Mom and Dad were not happy, seeing me as irresponsible, and not making something of my life. Now I play cool Dead when I'm hanging with Mom, and she enjoys it, sometimes shakin' it a little with me in the kitchen. I wish my Dad had made it to this point. I listened to 9/2/83 Boise Idaho last night, a sbd cd a friend gave me a few years ago. Second set is pretty sweet...Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated>Eyes>Jam (cool jam I've never heard before)>D>S>Throwin'> GDTRFB> Black Peter> SM, encore Baby Blue. I too wish the FW 69 box would be re-released. I can't afford the ebay prices-can you believe this box sold for $80? If anyone has a FW 69 box they would like to sell to me at a reasonable price, please please let me know!
  • JimInMD
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    Great Thread Lately
    Turning Dad onto the Dead. I am working on my mom, personally. Love my dad.. but Moms are moms.. Give me some time on this.. I have been working on them for almost 40 years.. it would have been easier if it were not for my older brother. He liked to play Jimi Hendrix very loud while smoking dope in the basement and drinking beer with his friends. ..that rat bastard.. made it much harder for me to freak freely without getting called out and having your friends parents called by phone late night. Love my brother too, and my dad.. more on that later, but back to my point.. great thread here, so much to comment on.. but I'm pretty pooped, buzzed and off-point.
  • Old Chief Smokem
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    Just wanted to touch on the parents and the Dead connection. About three years back, I was rehabbing my kitchen (tearing down walls and ripping up tiles.. all fun stuff) and my dad was helping with the project. He wasn't a construction guy by trade, but he was always willing to lend a hand with whatever project I decided to get into- he's a good man, my dad. Anyway, I put on DP 29 because it was a nice long listen (2 shows) and by the time we got to Row Jimmy (5/29)- he asked, "Who is this? Is this the Grateful Dead?" I said "Yeah. They're good, right." Without even looking up from prying up a floorboard, he said, "Always were." I looked at him and laughed and shook my head. He never played a Dead record that I could remember, and I'm not sure how much he ever listened to them, but he knew some great music when he heard it. We listened to that whole pick, and then I dropped DP 36 on him, and he loved fall '72 as well. I always think of that time whenever I put on either of those shows. I'm lucky enough to still have my Dad and Mom around- I think I'll have to send a few shows or compilations there way- really turn em on! Favorite '77 show- I think JimMD said this, but- the last one I listened too. (Although 5/29 does get a nod just because of my dad). Happy Friday to all you wonderful heads. Enjoy the weekend. My wife and kids are away, so I'm about to crack a nice frosty IPA, fire up some nice greenery and settle in with Dave's 21- nice and loud. Maybe sneak in a '77 or that 6/17/91 that Sixtus put out there- either way, life is grand, and I'm grateful!!!
  • Vguy72
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    A piece of history occurred on this date in 1968....
    https://archive.org/details/gd68-03-03.aud.jools.19904.sbeok.shnf/gd68-…. . The free Haight show....
  • Born Cross Eye…
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    One Jerry show I'd like to be released
    One Jerry Garcia Band show I'd like to see get officially released is: 11/23/77 Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT. Fast foward this date 14 years and you get the current GarciaLive Vol. 8 release. Anyway, I have an old audience tape (on cassette tape) originally recorded by Jerry Moore and it'a a *few* generations distant from his master recording, to say the least. I finally tracked down jgb77-11-23.aud.moore.16204.shnf and it sounds very good for the probable original Moore recording. It's missing the encore of Lonesome And A Long Way From Home. My cassette adds a note that Not Fade Away was also played at this show as an encore. I really can't remember too much from this show, other than my ticket stub. Anyone else care to see Jerry Garcia Band 11/23/77 get released in it's entirety?
  • direwulf
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    Im going to the Cabot show as
    Im going to the Cabot show as well. Sure is a step up from Le Grand David and crack houses. Beverly is now on the up and up. Wish it was like that when I live there!
  • JimInMD
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    Re: Melvin Seals JGB
    Thumbs up on Melvin's Band. I'm not sure if I have seen this iteration or not, but I don't think its too far off on personnel from when I last saw them a few years back. I enjoyed it a lot.. if he came anywhere close to me, I'd jump on it too. When Melvin really gets into it.. its a powerful force.. great guitarist too, but not Jerry. Like I said, I had a very good time.. brought back a lot of memories.
  • boblopes
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    re: New JGB
    Sounds good - speaking of JGB, anyone see the Melvin Seals JGB show that's touring? I'm taking the wife on Saturday night at the Cabot in Beverly.
  • JimInMD
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    Re: Rueben & Cherise
    I'm looking forward to it too.. too bad more of these later day shows are not on Video. I was watching the 1990 Shoreline a couple nights ago and it was so enjoyable.. brought back good JGB memories. The Dear Prudence from that show, in particular, was amazing.. but I am partial to that tune.
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    They put up the version from the forthcoming Garcia Live Vol. 8 on Youtube today, and man......epic. When people hear the version of Deal from this show for the 1st time, it will be a semi-religious out-of-body experience. The most rockin' version to see official release to date.
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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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What a sad waste of time this has been. As a loyal customer all these years, I turn and walk away.
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I wonder if perhaps the "system" thinks that most of the sets are allocated through all of those that are in carts of transactions which can't be completed.I got as close as putting in all my information only to be kicked back to the cart...this has been going on for hours now. As far as caring about this mess, I don't think that TPTB do or will. We are a "captive" audience. They shit on us and we keep coming back...
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all i can say is the system sucks but it is spitting confirmed orders out. The ups are on amazon at the same price for anyone looking to get them.
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I wonder if perhaps the "system" thinks that most of the sets are allocated through all of those that are in carts of transactions which can't be completed.I got as close as putting in all my information only to be kicked back to the cart...this has been going on for hours now. As far as caring about this mess, I don't think that TPTB do or will. We are a "captive" audience. They shit on us and we keep coming back... If anyone should be embarrassed or ashamed it should be Dave LeMieux. He is the face of these projects and as much as I appreciate his efforts up front culling the music together, their inability to seal the deal sucks.
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I'm done. Out of patience. I've given it more than enough of my time. Bye.
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The fact that the Cornell show can be easily pre-ordered on Amazon while we stew over here is almost doubly infuriating. And this is overpriced, as many of these have been with the exception of the '72 box.
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Thanks for the tip Scott!! I just picked up the 5LP set on Amazon. Doesn't look like Amazon has the multi-show box though. Too bad. GDnet should just outsource their entire ridiculous shitshow of purchase/fulfillment to Amazon -- or to almost literally anyone else who would do a better job than we're seeing here today.
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trying to let derek trucks take me to a happy place on the commute home and try again later
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First my account (which I haven't used in years) was disabled and I needed to re-register. The I got four sets in my cart. The I corrected this. Then I tried to check out. and here I sit trying to spend money on music which was publicly available until the greed took over which is about the same time my account went dormant. I don't know why I fell for yet another cash grab. I'm out. I'll dig out my CD-R copies of the show I downloaded from the archive years ago and wish all those struggling with the mess well.
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I've been trying for hours now on this pathetic excuse for an e-commerce site. Might as well go back to Mail order for these releases. The issue seems to be when the cart tries to figure out the taxes for your state from the delivery info dialog box. That is if you can get that far without getting bounced or forbidden. I've been staring at a spinning circle for a while now waiting for tax info to fill in so I can move to the payment options. Add more clouds or something this seems like an easy fix.
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I've been Forbidden for hours now. this stinks. looks like digital download
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First my account (which I haven't used in years) was disabled and I needed to re-register. The I got four sets in my cart. The I corrected this. Then I tried to check out. and here I sit trying to spend money on music which was publicly available until the greed took over which is about the same time my account went dormant. I don't know why I fell for yet another cash grab. I'm out. I'll dig out my CD-R copies of the show I downloaded from the archive years ago and wish all those struggling with the mess well.
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2017 ship date hopefully we'll be able to order before May 5, 2017
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The release of more shows that are available in stellar quality or the whining going on here. Some of you are acting like you're trying to order life saving medication for your children
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I am totally frustrated.. beyond frustrated gonna try in early AM!! don't think its sold out
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eBay will have plenty available!!!!! I "thought" I preordered but alas my order did not go through, no biggie eBay will save the day. WTF is going on?!!!! I don't think TPTB were expecting this we in the know knew that once these shows were put up here the system was going to get taxed to the max. UNHAPPY THURSDAY!!!!!
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I managed to get many many of these things into my cart throughout the day but couldn't ever get through payment page. Now on different computers at home and can't even get one in my cart. Total bs and a big waste of my day. Why am I still trying......?
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I know you got some high level connections. But it appears to me and some others you have no buisness sense. contact me I would like to help. I am a old dead head with a KU education. The deal is you really messed this up. sorry. US DEAD HEADS once again could not get close to a release we MADE HAPPEN> so it is sad for US. But if you get a hold of me I can help you run a business much better. THE DEAD ALWAYS GOT PROPS FOR THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. IT APPEARS YOU CARE NOTHING ABOUT THAT. I would love to have a seaside chat that fixed some of the buiness problems you and you people create. DEAD HEADS SHOULD BE REVERED NOT BROKEN on a computer chasing what was thiers to begin with.
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Trying for hours - getting worse. A few times put all information in and bam, dumped out and no order. This is the worst experience I have ever had purchasing anything from Dead.net and I have had some bad ones. I guess I may not get this box. I am not sure I can keep trying - have been at it 5 hours!!!
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A general release. Will buy on amazon. To hell with your over priced box set. Which I would have bought but can't. Shame on you.
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I've been trying to order almost non-stop for 4+hours. This is really stupid.
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I just got kicked over to a Rhino-based checkout and checked out there. Confirmation secured. Best of luck to everyone.
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Unfortunately I had five in the cart at that time. I could tell something was different about it and I didnt want to risk updating the cart, so I wound up buying five. Shit, my wife is going to KILL me.
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Was just kicked to a Rhino site as well! Went through and received email confirmation. Hopefully they can handle the traffic now, good luck!
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Lack of foresight, lack of preparation, grossly underestimated and I'm going down the road feeling bad. :-( Apologies for adding to the gloom but I'm sad.
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Just got re-directed to a secure Rhino page and was able to complete my order. Scott
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how do you talk to rhino ?
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Just got conformation through Rhino. Looks like same website but with Rhino logo. It is working now. Could have done without the drama today. But I am now GRATEFUL!
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Maybe they have a release date in May so they can get all the orders sorted by then.On hopes Warners is reading all of this and the other comments sites. Okay so their store can't handle it but what about some communication with their base. How hard would it be to send an email to the list with a simple and clear explanation of what is happening, is it sold out, are thousand of copies sitting in our carts, etc. and what to do from here. Do we all stop for an hour or so while they fix the problem? I once managed to get through to the checkout stage to find nearly 20 copies in my cart and git the error message when I tried to update. Three times got to the final check out confirm order when it reverted to the Add to Cart page. This should not be hard, just fix it or we will just forget it and download the Flac files from Pirate Bay.
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Finally, 5 hours later...Rhino to the rescue. Once they came on line got my order through in 5 minuets!
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I tried with Mozilla Firefox, with UBlock turned off, Forbidden 403. I tried Opera and placed my order. My order got done although it wasn't Amazon. Amazon takes my money much quicker. Got my order confirmation too, looks like I might be number 2969. Still getting 403 Forbidden with Firefox.
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I just got through (redirected to a rhino check out page I think)...try again if you had trouble. I'm so relieved...
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order went through--seems the ship has been righted!
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Well, after 3 hours of pure agonizing digital torture, finally got thru...but it patched me thru to the RHINO store? So let's hope that's a legitimate site. Hang in there, guys. It's NOT sold out. However,Tech guys need to be severely reprimanded. This is not how to treat captive, diehard fans. And it's not like this is a new thing, there's ALWAYS been crashiness with the shitty servers or bad coding, whatever. Do better, guys. Don't be greedy. You know the demand is out there and there's no need for limiting pressings. DO BETTER!
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I have listened to this show many times, from many sources. The download of scarlet-->fire gave me goosebumps. I'm hearing things I never noticed. Such sweet ear nectar to soothe my frazzled mind after 4 hours of anxiety about missing out.
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Tried for hours. Finally. Logged into account and tried and tried. Cart popped up once with 3 sets then disappeared. Did get a set ordered. Happy now. Good luck.
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Order goes through Rhino..that was new and different.
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Thank you Rhino. Saving the day one awesome purchase at a time. Keep Trying everyone. It's working now!
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Thank you Rhino. Saving the day one awesome purchase at a time. Keep Trying everyone. It's working now!
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Like most of us I have been to countless shows and own most of what has been released including all box sets. My wife and I spent most the day being disconnected from the phone system and getting all the way to checkout only to have everything go wrong. I wanted 1 box and 1 vinyl. I took a screen shot of my attempted order and mailed it to them. Perhaps that will count for something. What is the matter with these people. A buddy at work did not understand my anger and finally I said "this is not about business this is about family and our family being abused". Still not sure he understood but THEY should. Some nice 86 shows from the HJK just got uploaded to YouTube. I was at this run of shows. Good times with good people-family. Let's hope the powers that be recognize the magnitude of this mistake and make it right.
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Keep trying!. I've just managed to complete my order of the 11-CD boxed set, and I received a confirmation email, after many many failed attempts. This has been a debacle for sure, but at least it's not yet sold out. If it's any help, I found Chrome worked best for me; I was also trying MS Edge and Firefox. The boxed set is over-priced (particularly when I factor in the almost inevitable customs charges to the UK), but once in a while you've got to just pull the trigger. Good luck everyone!
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I finally was able to get to my cart, delete the 2nd copy that was put there due to multiple rejections, and fill out all but the delivery method, which was greyed out with a "waiting" circle. I dutifully waited and then got timed out. 30 minutes later I got that far again but Delivery was still not functional. Now I can't even get to my cart. Hopefully someone may have taken the cart down to fix the problem Hope so. These are trying times, indeed.
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It just took me 5 PLUS HOURS, of clicking and refreshing and 403 forbiddens and retrys and different browsers with my eyes straining and a massive headache!!!!!!! But i finally got thru with an order number!!!!!! You will eventully get your order in!!! BTW......You suck Rhino!!!!!
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