MAY 1977: Get Shown The Light Box

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION
SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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March 6, 2017 - 4:12am

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JimInMD

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Right on, Heartbeat.. (and Caleb for the absolute best historical perspective on all things Grateful Dead). ..and lets not forget Phil's influence. Jerry's compositions seemed jazzier than Phil's, but Phil's roots were drenched in Jazz.. add a pre-hiatus Billy and Bob to the mix and we have a Full-On Jazz Band. For example, I always considered stuff like the Dark Star from 5/4 and 5/11 were Jazz Masterpieces, full-on Opus's (among so many others). But really, peak Jazz ensembles. _____ I've always thought Django was amazing also. There are so many parallels to Garcia. If I were to describe Jerry's picking style to a complete stranger.. I would say its a lot like a like a cross between Doc Watson and Django Reinhardt. I think this also carries through to his electric guitar playing. If this thread continues, I have more to add.. but I have spent the last 72 hours gutting and renovating the bathroom in the my gf's rental townhouse. Holy crap that was a lot of work, time to get horizontal.
March 5, 2017 - 2:17pm

#332

Mr_Heartbreak

Joined:
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Hearing Jazz in the Dead

There are all sorts of jazz influences in the Dead, not just the obvious ones that "sound like" jazz. Jerry was heavily influenced by jazz pianist Art Tatum, guitarist Django Reinhardt, and saxophonist Ornette Coleman. Weir was influenced by McCoy Tyner. And everybody in the band was influenced by Coltrane and Miles to some degree. For more, check here: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/01/dead-and-jazz.html ...and here http://tomorrowsverse.com/story/dead-is-jazz-the-grateful-deads-greates…
March 4, 2017 - 10:26pm

#333

Vguy72

Joined:
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Bob Weir is living the life....

....a true trooperhttps://www.jambase.com/article/bob-weir-perform-david-nelson-band-alas… . . Prayers for Mr. Nelson....
March 4, 2017 - 5:12pm

#334

Vguy72

Joined:
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Hearing jazz in Eyes Of The World....

....sounds like he's got his shit together....
March 4, 2017 - 3:20pm

#335

Born Cross Eye…

Joined:
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My Parents

Are of "The Greatest Generation," Mom's 89 and decently healthy, still drives and does a lot of housework. My Dad is 91 and in his "late November/early December" of his years and is still healthy and cognizant for people their age. They're both of the big-band/swing era of 1940's early 50's and don't appreciate rock. Both enjoy baroque and classical music as well as some opera, especially when New York's Metropolitan Opera Company is on the FM, like Saturday afternoons. They really supported me when Jerry died almost 22 years ago, and they knew it was important for me to morn in the way I did. They also know that my favorite place for me to listen to "this Grateful Dead music" is in my car or truck while driving, so therefore no drink or drugs are involved. Actually they turned me on to their music, and sometimes I think I can hear jazz & big-band influences in the music of the Dead and Jerry Garcia. My Dad hears jazz in Eyes Of The World.
March 4, 2017 - 5:14am

#336

KeithFan2112

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Dinosaurs, the Dead, and the Land of No Return

Salutation: Morning Rockers! Time: 7:52 a.m. Place: Family Room Status: Empty house for the next couple of hours. May get into some stuff. Mode: Surround Sound 5.1 Volume: Dog Howling Loud Mind Bender: Dave's Picks Volume 9, aka "Dinosaurs, the Dead, and the Land of No Return", May 14, 1974 Initial Comments: In days of yore, a Bertha / Uncle opener meant something. This is a Keith-heavy adventure from the very beginning, and features one of my favorite opening salvos in the officially released recorded legacy - Bertha Me and My Uncle Loser Black-Throated Wind Scarlet Begonias This show gets better every time I listen to it, and I've always liked it.
March 4, 2017 - 1:45am

#337

dantian's last…

Joined:
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Traveling Light
March 4, 2017 - 1:08am

#338

dantian's last…

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haven't listened to the GOGD

in a few days... Been listening to Leonard Cohen's last album, "You Want It Darker" over and over again lately. Released just 2 weeks before he died, I think it is his masterpiece, and it is haunting me... That's where I'm at right now.
March 4, 2017 - 12:54am

#339

dantian's last…

Joined:
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Dad loved to harmonize

had a natural ear for harmony, he could harmonize to anything without even trying, and often did. One of Dad's favorite stories he liked to convey was the time he was on some boat somewhere with Pete Seeger, one of his idols, and got called up to the "stage" to harmonize with him. I don't know the details. He loved when I played "Reckoning" the most, neat and tidy tunes he could harmonize to, without all the extra jamming. I sure miss those days...and him.
March 3, 2017 - 8:32pm

#340

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Re: old chief smokum & May 5th revelation

Fantastic story especially when it involves converting those who we may have thought were beyond conversion. And double.....nay....TRIPLE points for them being A Parent. Glad to have inspired a (potential) '91 listen as well. Love that show. And I know it's been discussed around here before, but I also recall having seen the Eyes of the World and the Saint of Circumstance on a Friday evening program called "In Concert", late at night. I had a VHS of it for years which I somehow converted onto an audio cassette just for that Eyes of the World. Imagine my elation when I discovered The Archive back in The Day and everything was accessible and downloadable. It was an epiphany extraordinaire. Sixtus P.S. I happeed to be listening to my compiled list of the February 26, 1977 show. And embedded in there was the Scarlet>Fire from May 5, 1977. The first show from this box. I have no idea how it got in there, but it was included as one track. And I listened to it. Curiously, yet still unfamiliar by listen. I have admittedly never heard this show despite its prominent locale among the golden magnificent trifecta. And as the Scarlet > Fire transition was unfolding, something suddenly happens and the band just takes off. It's a mesmerizing moment and makes one start paying attention henceforth. From there and onward, it hints at some really cool, familiar moments. As it was moving along I was hearing these little signature passages. I listened to it all the way through and my jaw kind of slacked and I said to myself...."self: this sounds like Cornell". Then once the walking wah-wah of Fire on the Mountain began its slow plodding stamp...just like Cornell....but a few bars longer....I went and checked the playlist and sure enough it WAS the night before. There are some uncanny overlaps; as with most amazing things that happen there's always something that happens before from which it has built. A theme. Feeling. Vibe. A malicious beat. God only knows what it is but it somehow morphs one night to the next into something intangible and beautiful. I love this shit.

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

FINALLY! THANKS RHINOSTORE

After 5 hours, it looks like someone at Warner started bouncing orders through the Rhino Store....finally worked.. Thanks for the Scarlet>Fire DL. An unexpected treat.

Finally

Yes!!!!! I was calm and knew I would finally get through. Big thanks to rhino! Bad timing as I just broke down and bought the July 78 box two days ago. If this was any other box I might have skipped this but of course I couldn't pass it up.

Yep, finally

After hours of trying to add to cart, came up with 6 in my cart. Updated cart got booted out again. Then finally got a fresh cart, added in and went to check out. Completed it all and while confirming order, kicked me back to the beginning but this time it went through. Order confirmed. It is working better now.

Lucky to Get Through

Keep Trying.....

Humor request

Someone's got to do a 'Hitler reacts to May '77 box set' This one about the last shows was hilarious: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBZuulCoPo

Thank you for your order Order # 111400000003......

Finally. Not sure ordering cd's on the internet should take all day though.

Just bought one, 1st try

Confirm email came from rhinostore, not gdstore.

Keep Trying!

It looks like they have re-routed the ordering to Rhino and it is still available. I would not wait as I do think it will sell out quickly. I agree with others that 15,000 was too low for this release, especially when Dave's Picks is a higher limit now. This is a monumental release and they should know that. They probably think making the downloads available for sale for the other shows was a way to make sure no-one would get shut out from the music itself, but still 15,000 is too low. Hope everyone who wants the CD set has a fair chance to get it now.

Fixed?

Just ordered without a hitch...process went along for all three windows that I had going. Should I order a backup?Confirmation on credit card, paypal, and email from warner. It's about time.

3 hours of frustration

But I got my order confirmed (through the Rhino-flagged portal).Usual GDM bullshit hits next level. And I will forget this by the time we have another box to order. Will go through the same shit and be surprised at it all again. Horrible company selling GREAT music.

Our long national nightmare is over...

you may have to clear your cookies or switch to a private browsing mode so your page isn't cashed, but you should now be redirected to the Rhino checkout page. After 5+ hours of agony, my order went through perfectly on the first try over at Rhino. Miller time.

Well, well, well...

There's a Rhino on Shakedown Street. ; )

Done Deal

I got routed through Rhino's site. Was a tad clunky. Went through. 100% times superior to Warner. Was this a minor pain? Yes. Will I think it was totally worth it when it arrives? Yes.

Try Chrome

I was unable to order using IE, so I switched to Chrome and was redirected to a Rhino site. Had to make a new log in with Rhino, but it worked. Good luck

Sucess

They have it fixed. Now redirects you to the rhinostore site, and went thru, have conformation number and now can r lax afte 5 hrs of this nonsense im gonna smoke a bunch of sour diesel and listen to the run. Hooray!!!!!

Finally!

Took 4 hours nonstop, finally went thru on my android with chrome. Don't give up folks, stay positive!

Yes!

Got through, sent to Rhino, order completed - it is mine! Hang in there, everyone.

Yes, Rhino...

Rhino came through!!!! What the initial SNAFU was? Garbage. Idiotic. Great way to lose customers. We're a dying lot, after all.

Success with the Rhino

My guess is they took the Warner site down and rerouted all traffic to Rhino. I'm not too happy because Rhino totally botched an order at Christmas but hopefully this edition of May 77 won't suffer the same fate of being lost in transit for weeks.

77 chaos

ordering process is like punishment for being a fan. i was eventually able to make it work,after four hours of total bullshit. totally uncool

Success!!....

....I was also diverted to Rhino. Thanks Doc! Good job manning the post good sir....

Just got it

Friends, After HOURS of trying on the computer with no luck, I got through on my mobile device first try. Give it a try yourself and I hope you have the same luck I did. Cheers

RHINO WORKS

Not exactly sure what I did been a long night. But I got rhino on MY PHONE LIKE THAT OTHER PERSON SAID. then figured out how to add to my cart but I had to hit another button to make it work.

Finally

After trying, and trying, and trying my order finally went through. About time. I was just about ready to walk away. Cleared my browser cache and it worked after countless "Forbidden" errors.Sheesh! I was diverted to Rhino as well. I guess good old dead.net (or Warner) just went dead.

Rhino comes through again!

Rhino comes through again! Thank the Dr.!!! Those jokers at Warner need to get there act together this took years off my life, resulted in countless profanities and made my wife think twice about marrying a Dead Freak. Now I just have to find a way to deal with the $15,000 worth of box sets that will show up on my credit card after all those forbidden messages and looped cart purchases.

Tough love

Yes, blame David LeMeieux, and while you are at it, if Jerry had not made such wonderful music or if Bear had not recorded all that wonderful music, or if Edison had not invented recording technology... There is lots of unwarranted blame to go around. Maybe it is a White House conspiracy to drive us too crazy to vote the liberal ticket in future elections? On the other hand, since this has happened before (and you are right to point out that the commercial concerns that handle these transactions should do a better job), perhaps you should adjust your expectations. You can't expect them to be just exactly perfect! I, too, sat on the computer for a few hours after the email came out. Then I went for a walk for an hour or so. When I came back it all worked out, just as I expected it would! May 5 seems so long away!!!

It took me less than 5

It took me less than 5 minutes at 525pm West Coast time just now Am I just lucky?

Let's see....

....This May is my birth month. And I'm getting this box, Felt Forum, The Dead doc on Amazon and Dead & Company in Vegas. Happy Birthday to me.

Ridiculous, but made it

Like so many others, after 4+ hours I too have finally gotten a confirmation number. I don't know if this make a difference but I kept hitting my Cart button because I knew I had a copy in it and the 403s just got worse. When I hit the Add To Cart button one last time was when I was immediately redirected to Rhino. Glad to be in but after soooo many times with this same scenario (Europe '72 was such a nightmare fiasco)I just can't believe they've still not gotten their act together any better then this. But patience (and a lot of cursing and sweating) eventually paid off, so keep on tryin' y'all.

Painful

They say start with a positive, so I will. Looking forward to these shows, thankful I got a conformation, and thanks to the person that suggested Private Window, that did the trick. Now the negative - Painful, Painful, Painful! This was worse than trying to deal with getting Radiohead tickets for the Greek. For those that get their order in, enjoy!

the link for those who are stuck at warners

http://rhinostore.warnermusic.com/wmgcheckout/cart/add?sku=081227935153…

order it here, it will

order it here, it will re-direct to Rhino automatically. Good luck!

Finally

After several hours it finally went through. Forget about refreshing, I clicked add to cart again and it went straight to the rhino store. All is well now. Whew.

Why Do You Make It Difficult For Me To Give You My Money?

I'm going to do a rare thing for me on this site. Sorry. Apologize in advance. I love the releases. I love the sound quality. I love the liner notes. I love the seaside chats. I love archive photographs. I love the effort and enthusiasm to get this music out and many, myself included thought this was coming and it has. Amen. All that said as far as checking out to order this thing. Man alive give me the last 1 hour plus of my life back. FU.

Got it Via Rhino

As mentioned in an earlier post. Instead of clicking on my cart at Dead.net, I clicked on add (the item) and this took me to Rhino. Done. Now I can sleep. Wish you all well with getting your copies.

Well, that was intense.

Finally. Finally. Clearly, there was scrambling on the front- and/or back-end systems. Would not have wanted to be a member of that Network Ops, nor App Dev team. That out of the way, this feels like discovering the Holy Grail. We chose wisely.

Anyone else ever had this happen?

Not knowing Rhino's web address I typed in rhino music and got an alert saying that my computer has been blocked and my credit card info etc. is being hacked and if I don't call this 1-888 number in the next five minutes my computer will be shut down.

All set on the East coast

Took me 6 hours but finally went through on Rhino site. Getting tickets to SEE the Grateful Dead years ago was easier ;)

2nd comment ever

Well, you know what they say about that "Once in awhile...". Stand by most of my original comment but I'm pretty happy now. Hope most of you are as well. Blessings.

Talk about paying dues!

Talk about paying dues! Weren't the 5 billion brain cells a sufficient advance. Hard to call it a wasted day, as there is gold at the end of the slog, but if I ran my business like this I'd be eating dirt.

why why why why why?

5 and a half hours after the announcement, and I still can't get in. Absolutely absurd. You expect us all to waste hours of our time just trying to get to an order page? The people who run dead.net have obviously learned nothing in the years of running this site. Arguably the biggest thing that you have sold here, at least in terms of the MOST REQUESTED DEAD SHOW OF ALL TIME (and Dave reiterated this in his chat), and you can't even fucking order it. BEYOND pathetic.

Rhino. YES. Warner. HELL NO

Rhino comes through... This was an exercise for sure.Dead.net. either stick with a company that gets it done or lose fans. But yeah you don't care right? Were suckers, right? You know I see a bunch of Blockbuster Video stores on every corner!!! And what happened to them? LEARN from this boys//////

Saved by Rhino

It is finally working now. Hallelujah. Best of luck!

Anyone else have this happen?

No. It's a scam. And don't call!

Finally!!!

What an ordeal! Yep, same as Europe '72... I was thinking anytime now I was going to end up with like 30 order confirmation emails. I gave up a few times for like 15 mins at a time. persistence, then the Rhino site pops up....and DONE! Why limit the BEST and MOST requested ever show box-set??? Or why not make this one 30,000 units?

Finally!

I had to do a triple take when the email notification popped up on my phone about this box set. I was sitting at work and spent the next hour trying to order it without luck. Put my wife on it and 5 hours later I finally have a copy of the box set ordered! Poor wife tried via the website, and waited on hold for over two hours only to get disconnected/hung up on. Me thinks they were not really prepared for all the folks that would be interested in this. Hopefully everyone gets a copy who wants one, and people are not trying to buy them all up to profit off of later...

oh my god

Thank you so much for that.....now I can do something else with my life.....

Got 2

Not sure why the system put 2 in the checkout but I figured someone here will need a miracle. Will post when they arrive. Good look everyone. This took far too many hours.

Got 2

Not sure why the system put 2 in the checkout but I figured someone here will need a miracle. Will post when they arrive. Good look everyone. This took far too many hours.

Peeeeple!

Uh, Hi... I didn't know that all a yous was watchin'. I take back the sex comments and the drug references. https://youtu.be/b0FViwZmsGQ Minas, I think you picked the wrong day to start talking about your women's underarm hair fetish. So Dave pronounced it Veneeeeeta. Like Velveeta. I thought that was a short "e". 8/27/72

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