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    ALL MUSIC EDITION

    SOLD OUT

    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • outpost
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    Wow ..... managed to get my order in !
    Took a while, waiting for the site to settle down, but finally merged to get it ordered.
  • johnny361
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    well..
    dead.net is telling me to fuck off!
  • chbartle
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    Sorry quadruple post
    your time is more valuable than that
  • chbartle
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    Sorry quadruple post
    your time is more valuable than that
  • Zomby Woof
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    This is insanely frustrating.
    This is insanely frustrating.
  • wcroft
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    This is crazy -- why only 15K copies?
    I've been trying for over two hours and got to the checkout page twice but was unable to confirm. After the Europe 72 debacle, they should have realized this would happen. Why are they restricting it to only 15K copies, when they could sell tens of thousands without any trouble? These are only the most famous shows the Dead ever did...I hope they'll increase the number.
  • dsteak
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    4th time to pay screen, I got
    4th time to pay screen, I got to the last step, authorizing payment, and it crapped out, BUT, I got the confirmation e-mail. took 2 hours. keep trying, it will be so worth it come May. good luck everyone. can I have the last 2 hours back?
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    4th time to pay screen, I got
    4th time to pay screen, I got to the last step, authorizing payment, and it crapped out, BUT, I got the confirmation e-mail. took 2 hours. keep trying, it will be so worth it come May. good luck everyone. can I have the last 2 hours back?
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    Cannot order despite trying for last 2 hours
    Yikes!!! Was at New Haven show. Love this more than almost anything - soundwise the boards are just the best and the playing is.... you all know. Please!
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    Cannot order - very painful
    Yikes. Was at New Haven show. Love this more than anything tho a Deadhead since '66. Please!
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ALL MUSIC EDITION

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What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Rhino has come in for a fair bit of disparagement on these forums, but I have always found them to be the ones who bail out the dead.net folks when things go a bit sideways. In the last 18 months I've engaged in a major update to my inventory, often paying semi-ridiculous amounts to 3rd parties for several of the out of print box sets, as well as picking up stuff at the dead.net site (this can happen to a 71-78 concert goer who faded in and out of infatuation, but is now fully back in). The days when I could pick up the newest Dick's Picks as it came out seem downright quaint in light of today's web frenzy. The folks at Rhino have always come through, whether emailing clean digital files from online purchases, or even replacing a disc from the out of print May 77 box 7 years after its release, and doing so in a prompt and helpful manner. It's difficult to realize that getting an order through for this new box took 50 (yeah, I kept count) attempts, and that it worked only after a break, and then finding that the dead.net site redirected to Rhino. Warner records is not a small outfit, and it's pretty amazing that they and the dead folks didn't anticipate that this announcement would generate the overload that it did. But, thanks to Rhino, I have a confirmation of order, and will make do with Rob Eaton's mix from archive.org until the primo sound version, with other shows, arrives. This will make the Spring 77 tour, with the all of the releases on Dick's Picks, May 77 box, and single shows a strong second to Europe 72 for most covered tour, I suspect. May the music never stop....
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How about titling the next archive release "Forbidden Dead?"
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Whoa. People are riled up. Happy. Sad. Emotional. Focused. Passionate. Sounds about right for this clan. The Love for the music is what drives The Fervor. And that is righteous. People In Charge will ensure the initial snares get worked out - we hope - and it's not lost on The Community what hardships and mental coasters were endured. But, Have Faith. Odds are, it will work out given demand, and Love. Sixtus
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....and I'm exhausted. Lol. Nice to see a bunch of familiar persons make an appearance. Hello IPA my old friend, time to play that Scarlet->Fire download once again. Sounds pretty effin amazing....
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just saw there is already a copy up for sale at $400 beans....buy it now - ridiculous
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After much frustration and many hours. My order went through. Strangely it went through the Rhino Webstore. I received an email confirmation and there's a pending charge on my credit card. Here's hoping it's for real. I may just call in to Customer Service tomorrow to confirm. Good Luck fellow Deadheads!
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After initially getting thrown off the site after getting to checkout, went back in half hour later and got through to checkout and got my confirmation email, box set and Cornell vinal set. Somewhat surprised about Cornell release, excuse has often been that everyone already had a great copy, which I do, have had it for 20 years, soundboard quality. Still interested to see what they could do on official release as well as the other shows. Already have good copy of Buffalo, not others. Always thought that Baltimore later that month was great as well, great copies of that all around. Regards. Ned.
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Ok. Got my order finally in and confirmed through the revised interface. After 7 hours. So all is well for me in the world. That does not make this ok. It does not make it ok for anyone who spent hours today getting an order through. That was not excusable after all the previous fiascos. It should have been avoided. And for anyone who tried to get this done today and gave up, and ends up getting shut out, it will not be ok. My bloodpressure will go down (truth to tell it didn't really go up much, if I had to buy via digital on release I would have been fine) but this really has been bad. I still have more GD music than I will ever really listen to again in this life (including the two of these shows that matter most to me). Back to Rockin the Rhein and my favorite Dark Star segue. Enjoy all.
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Sixtus.. I think you have this about right. Relax people.. its gonna be alright. 15k wont sell out tonight, and it looks orders are processing regardless of the browser used. There seems to be glitch for people named Scott though (kidding). All will be good with the universe by dawn tomorrow.
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That truly sad! Likely a person purchasing multiple copies who's not even into the Dead.
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Took a little time but got my order in. At my age I know you have to have a little patience to make those good things work.Was surprised to see this message regarding the free download single with my order: "10 Left" !! Jeezus! How many of these box sets are left?
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Just got back from my "family obligation" and all is good. Got my order in for THE BOX that we've all been waiting for. Glad the Deadheads that take care of us got their s**t together on this one. Somebody in the organization stepped up and did the right thing for us. I was about to go Mr Charlie on someone. Peaceout
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It's 10:00 in the evening and I was able to order my copy of the box set quick And problem free!!! I too was having trouble placing my order this afternoon but it's clear sailing now!!!
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¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸ After hours of frustration, was able to place order this evening...... Safe to say that order went through since I could download the Scarlet-Fire Digital single? ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸
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I always hoped that they would do a box set of this period, right up there with their best. The shows that resulted in the Double Skeleton album were consistently great, Filmore East and West, Manhattan center, etc. The greatest Morning Dews, Hard to Handles, Truckins, Cumberlands, Bobby McGees, Cold Rain,etc. Jerry on a Strat, love that sound and tone, pure before all the fancy guitars, makes it ring and sing. I always thought their most intense, high energy jamming, nothing quite like it after those April Fillmore shows, always thought they were down a notch in energy from then forward, not that I still didn't love the stuff, just different. Regards. Ned.
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Does it sound like Dave did the Audience Patch thing around 9:30 of the Scarlet Fore Digital Down load?
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I was having problems too. I registered for rhino.They actually had all my info from dave's picks after I registered. Then it was not excepting my credit card same one for 2017 subscription. Could not find a phone number to talk to someone. Starting to panic then I figured my anti virus wanted me to use credit card protection thru them. Rhino not to secure. Got thru and confirmed. YES!!!!!
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Can't get through my order. I've been trying more than 5 hours. Administrator, please help!!!
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...."We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true." Oh yeah? Then where's that 1983 Mountain Tour, or Alaska? Just keep feeding me.....do you hear me Santa Fe?!....
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Try a different web browser. Or, Close your browser, reopen it, delete your browsing history, close the browser, reopen it, start over.
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Please stop. There's more than a hint of humour to our self-commiseration over the events of this afternoon. Personally, the surprise in this set with be New Haven. I've no recollection of my acquaintance with this show, though my notes indicate having listened to the Wallwork transfer back in 2011, with particular attention to that 18-minute Sugaree in the TWO slot - no first set warm-up required this night! I've opened the Taper's Compendium and the attendant review describes this rendition as "one of the longest and finest ever performed", to include "three coruscating jams, each quite different in character". I had to look up "coruscating": it means "flashing; sparkling" or "brilliant or striking in content or style", which is pretty much Spring 77 in a nutshell! 2nd set: 23min ScarFire and a St.S during which JG "studiously ignores several attempts at intervention by other members of the band [to transition back to vocals]"...April showers bring mad May improvisations...
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It only took 7 hours and using my phone to get it done. It was feeling a lot like "Fare Thee Well" today but I actually scored this time! Hurry up May 5th and summer tour......what a great year it's gonna be.
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Am just surprised that there don't seem to be more onboard with this sentiment. What you call intense, I call the dirty and nasty guitar leads, devoid of any sparkly dust and noodling.
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Wow. I just logged in to post about 71, but ned and frost beat me to it. Sure we are all happy about this release, but I am far more interested in a box from the February 71 Capitol Theater run.
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Yup. Finally worked. Looks like they set up the gratefuldead.warner site on its own little server, then rate limited how many connections it would take at once. So each time you had to reconnect to get to the next phase of ordering, it was a brand new lottery to see if you'd be "administratively prohibited." Hell of a way to run an airline. Rhino did refuse the credit card I'd been entering in the almost-made-it runs though. Wonder if they tainted it somehow.
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I'm highly fired up about both. Been waiting a long time for these gems of '77, but salivating over any more official '71's we can get our hands on too.
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Honestly.. I've been a bit burned out on 77 the last few years.. and would be psyched for a bigen 71. That being said.. Kate's post got me thinking about 77 Sugaree's and I've always been big on Buffalo, and oh hell.. Cornells pretty goddamned good even if its overplayed. My mojo is rising just writing this post.. I'm happy with what we have, and knowing theres hundreds of reels yet to be released, some of which are likely not documented makes my blood boil a bit. This could be the singular greatest day since One From the Vault for GD recording enthusiasts. Its a holy shit moment. Nothing but smiles from my end.
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You do realize this is a social experiment and we're the guinea pigs, right? Over on another site is the control group, putting out a never before commercially released set from Pat Boone. The powers that be will be comparing notes. Got my confirmation. Thank you GD, Rhino, etc., for the goods, the almost heart attack, and the evening's entertainment (that's one word for it anyway.) Awesome.
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AudiophileReloader, it does sound like something happens at ~9:30 of the Scarlet/Fire MP3 but no idea what, it's only a few seconds.
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Got mine through Rhino. Extremely difficult. But relieved.
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We were lucky to be on the board this morning before the email went out. My order sailed through unimpeded. I gotta say, how the hell did something this good happen - that the most incredible band changed so much from year to year to provide such a varied palate, then taped most of it to where it could be Norman-ed and released with such fidelity? Pinch. Sometimes good shit just happens.
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Just now ordered it and it went through with no problem. Whew, that was close! lol I tried earlier today and forget about it, the site kept crashing over and over again! lol...I figured i'd give it a rest and try later in the night after the frenzy calmed down. Whew , glad it's over , I can rest easy now.
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It's 5.30am in Sweden and about one hour ago I finally got mine. I had gone to sleep but one of my cats woke me up, as she does every now and then. So I made an atempt to order through my mobile phone, while still in bed . I had to fill in my card number several times but then finally the purchase went through. Thank you very much! When I downloaded the digital single, it said ten left to go. Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden
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This has to be the "Big News" Dave hinted at during his DaP 21 talk. It is BIG NEWS and i grabbed my copy now before they are all flown. It's going to be an EPIC Summer 2017.
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God I love this band , even in trumpland , the Grateful Dead will get us by. Their music is a beacon of Hope a force of positive energy , these Betty boards ,these picks have come just in time , Thank you, Thank you , Thank you ! To all of you who put these discs together . You all are making the world better ,best. I love you all Chris
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Bravo brother.. Just like back in the old days when you had to go to the venue (or local mall) and camp out to get tickets. Awesome... you stayed up all night to get this box. Awesome man.. just had to comment.
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Dave's 21 and 22 from these returned Bettys. I bet they've got Capitol Theater 1971, and that will be a big box for next year for my guess. Sorry 80s guys, maybe they will make 23 from the 80s or 90s, because it sounds like they're really going to capitalize on the return of 100 shows worth of Bettys. They have to put the work into restoring these tapes anyway, so I'm betting a lot of 70s stuff is coming.
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Dave, terrific news, towards the end of the video when you say "released FINALLY on CD" and roll your eyes, agree totally. Dave, you rock, you STILL DA MAN!! Hope College Park 1981 gets a release in the near future, Cheers.
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....next time I look that word up in the dictionary, a picture of Betty better be next to it. We're set for a while people....
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As for what might well follow, here is a list of known Grateful Dead Betty Boards: 02.18.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 02.19.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 02.20.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 02.21.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 02.23.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 02.24.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York 04.05.71 Manhattan Center, New York City (End Of 2nd Set Only) 04.06.71 Manhattan Center, New York City 04.07.71 Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts 04.08.71 Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts 12.14.71 The Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, Michigan 05.04.72 The Olympia Theater, Paris, France 08.21.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California 08.22.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California 08.25.72 Berkeley Community Theater, Berkeley, California 08.27.72 Old Renaissance Faire Ground, Veneta, Oregon 03.16.73 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, Long Island, New York 03.21.73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica, New York 03.22.73 Memorial Auditorium, Utica, New York 03.24.73 Spectrum Arena, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 05.26.73 Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, California 06.22.73 Pacific High Exhibition Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 06.10.76 The Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts 06.11.76 The Boston Music Hall, Boston, Massachusetts 06.14.76 The Beacon Theater, New York City 06.15.76 The Beacon Theater, New York City 06.29.76 The Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, Illinois 02.26.77 The Swing Auditorium, San Bernadino, California 05.05.77 New Haven Coliseum, New Haven, Connecticut 05.07.77 Boston Gardens, Boston, Massachusetts 05.08.77 Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York 05.09.77 War Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo, New York 09.29.77 The Paramount Theater, Seattle, Washington 10.02.77 The Paramount Theater, Portland, Oregon 10.28.77 Soldiers & Sailors Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Missouri 10.29.77 Field House, Northern Illinois University, Dekalb, Illinois 10.30.77 Assembly Hall, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 11.01.77 Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan 11.05.77 War Memorial, Rochester, New York (End Of Show) 11.06.77 Broome County Arena, Binghamton, New York 04.07.78 Hollywood Sportatorium, Hollywood, Florida 04.10.78 The Fox Theater, Atlanta, Georgia 04.11.78 The Fox Theater, Atlanta, Georgia 04.12.78 Cameroon Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, North Carolina 04.14.78 Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic, Blacksburg, Virginia 04.15.78 William And Mary College, Williamsburg, Virginia 07.07.78 Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison, Colorado 07.08.78 Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison, Colorado 10.18.78 Winterland, San Francisco, California 04.22.79 Spartan Stadium, San Jose, California
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First off dont take my questions and requests as being ungrateful or complainiing in any way, i am thrilled that we are getting such a great boxed set. LOVE IT. Subscribe to the series and love all the boxed sets. BUT Where is 5/4/77?????? Is it not in the vault? A second set sbd does circulate. Is it just a case of not having a complete sbd? Obviously they dont want to put an incomplete show in a boxed set. But maybe a future bonus disc for daves picks series??? Just curious if anybody knows any more background on such a great show, that i wish would get an official release. Next question...when are we getting 1-22-78?
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Funny how heads be crashing the website and freaking out. Yeah, me too, but it all worked out this evening. Barton Hall was my first "Soundboard" bootleg, and it HOOKED me. I don't recall having to mention that too many times before dudes be slapping Buffalo and Boston tapes in my hands. And the Race Is On, and There Goes Face Melt!
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Had to go away from 4pm PST till a half hour ago, and luckily they didn't sell out while I was away. I better put my confirmation number in a safety deposit box. Now let's see if they can ship them out without a snafu.
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so glad i never bought a barton hall bootleg, and i hear buffalo is as good if not better. ----
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