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    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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    God speed Dusty
    Jim, strap on a few extra canisters of juice, it could be a long trip.... (only 4? You might need 5). Bring some IPAs too, you might get thirsty.
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    ..of course said bike courier has rainbow streamers pouring out of the handlebars in a colliape fashion... There's still time to Intercept on the Magical Mower, gang. Maybe the super secret special hot sauce aforementioned could be a condiment additive of importance. Sixtus P.S. BCEyed, can't believe you actually attended Pirate's World. I have a vision in my head...and man, you were there. It was a fleeting moment in pirate history! And good to know, jimmy, you've had the audio pirate experience previously as well. Swashbuckling good stuff. And i woulda stayed on, been a deckhand, toted a line, reefed a jib, plunged a bilge, you name it. I mighta even had an eye patch. Arrrrrrrrgh. P.P.S. ICKid... You've dropped so many references in your ramblings all I can do is fist pump in the air
  • Dusty.rambler@…
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    I have been compromised and will return to lurking mode. I must now focus on my secondary mission... a 74 minute disc (produced with "the full Norman treatment") of Donna's wails in inappropriate places. To be released by Rhino shortly, in both "Limited Edition" and "Oh God, Why did I buy this???" Edition. The scalpers are favoring the "Oh God Why" edition to reasons unknown by the free market.
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    I think it's time to fuel up the mower with pure,oily Carolina Reaper juice.:)
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Jim, heads up
    Where's the Senator?Did they get him?
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Appears to be an inside job........................................................................ (Now it's really getting serious)
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    The box has already been cloned (with some minor mutations). Pleas see "All Music Edition" thread.
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    That's exactly why I chose it! I trust MaryE on a bike cross country to reach me faster than mail innovations. I'd like to see a counter argument.
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    I hear those are personally delivered by bicycle by none other than MaryE herself.
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    Dusty, keep your eyes out
    'Expedited' could have nefarious connotations.... As delivery day approaches beware of postal carrier looking types named Newman, that's the name they use during missions to recover the rescued hostage-Betty's. All they need is to recover 1 Box and they can clone it........................ (That's a lot of dots because it's a serious situation)
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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

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What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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I kept getting error messages, saying the method of payment(credit card) was invalid. Closed Google Chrome and opened Microsoft edge and the order sailed through. Woo-Hoo!
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Welcome back stranger. :)
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Well maybe competence and thoroughness should be considered in hiring web designers. Still huge blood pressure raising problems and frustration in ordering. There should be a health warning against older people ordering; I wonder if anyone trying vainly to order for the 49th time dies in the process. credit cards are impossible to use since a name on the credit card is required, but the designer failed to provide a space for the name! Only alternative was pay pal, which seemed to have gone thru, but then I received a notice from Rhino of payment failure. Then I got a confirmation of the order from Paypal, but not Rhino. God knows if I have succeeded in ordering this box set, but I should know too. What a mess. I give up.
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04.22.79 Spartan Stadium, San Jose, California Looking very forward to the full-Norman of this show. Brent's debut. I'll take an epic DISCO Dead era "Shakedown" any way i can. The Dave's series desperately needs one!!
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Makes the same kinda sense as today's well-oiled machine...but in the end it's funny. :) Johnny Hammersticks!??! Sugarcube anyone?
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After frustrating hours of failed attempts online and on the phone, Rhino came through. Thank you! Thank you!
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finally i made it! Yeah, after too many hours with frustrating errors i'm very happy now. One of the best things that can happen to you ist to get this special box on your birthday! I did it, yes yes yes !!!! nothing left to do is smile smile smile best wishes from Germany to all of you
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My question is this recorded on 2 track or multi-track? also does anyone else know if the 1st may 77 box set and the stand alone To Terrapin release also 2-Track recordings? they kinda seem to have the same audio feel as Dicks picks 29 and those were 2-track recordings.
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Luckily I had no problems ordering my copy, other than having to enable cookies for dead.net on my browser..... The price does seem excessive, as usual...... Guess there's no loyalty to us Dead fans, in not trying to extort every last dollar out of us.... Not how I'd treat my customers......
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Ive been looking forward to this happening ever since I bought the Europe '72 magnum Opus.
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Due May 5th- A perfect Birthday present!
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Never saw so many folk on the site, around 500 members ad 3350 guests, thanks for Rhino rescueing the selling. I just got the Barton show. this is goingto be gone by tomorrow at this time.
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as an added bonus, the day before is STAR WARS day! May the 4th be with you! I'm in such a good mood since I successfully got my box set!
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After several failed attempts to buy this box in the first few hours that it went on sale, I gave up and waited until the next day. In the early morning hours on Friday, I was successful.It's probably will arrive about the dame day as Dave' Picks 22. I think the $139.98 is a fair price, but Rhino/Warner Music Group should give registered users of dead.net a discount of free shipping, and guests should pay that shipping charge. Add my state's sales tax, and the total amount is almost $15 more than the list price. These are great shows and I'm glad the original tapes finally found their way back to the Grateful Dead vault and that these 4 shows were released.
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When the day dawns in France, the Americans sleep. After vainly trying to order last night, this morning when I woke up, even before my sacred breakfast, I rushed to dead.net and I finally preordered May 1977: Get Shown The Light. The box should reach me a day close to my birthday. Happiness!
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Like the Orpheum 1976 Dave's Picks 4 CD set, similar result with 5.4.77, probably pegged for 2018 subscription with bonus This announcement was pretty obvious, only thing in question would it be a box set of Winterland March 1977 or May 77. Primo stuff Returned GD reels also have some more from late 1979 and Fall 1980 ~ Brent era Dave's Picks 21 sounds amazing, can't wait to hear the December 1971 recordings Dave's Picks 22 ? How about 10.29.77 ? That one is really high energy. Also would like 11.6.77 OR an offering from the Pacific Northwest run September 1977 - October 1977. Future Box set after May 77,,,, bring on the BCT run from August 1972 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And save some shelf space Fall 1989 ~ Philadelphia Spectrum
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Just sayin' I would have titled the single show "The Monster At Barton Hall" And the box set: "May 1977: Return Of The Monsters"
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The returning. I hope BCJ got a little slice of the pie on this, she deserves it. I don't know the inside story, but it seems right. I saw the tweet from Rolling Stone and snuck in under the gun, about 5 mins before the official email went out. Then all hell broke loose, and the site was flumuxed till last night. I'm surprised this isn't sold out yet. Looking forward to getting the box a day or so after my birthday, May 4th. Buffalo is the one for me. Can't wait to hear that Peggy-O and The Music Never Stopped from that night. Just pure swing perfection. I wonder if they did anything to the time between songs for Cornell. Aren't there some fairly long pauses? Also, that 2nd disc of Buffalo is a little weak, guess they couldn't fit everything on 2 discs.
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Did there use to be free shipping on the box sets or am I getting confused with the subscriptions?Anyway, this box is the cat's ass. Wow, what a month of May. This box and Dave's #22.
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Why do I have to log into Dead.net and then when I pre-order it takes me to Rhino.com to start the process over - and not only that but I have to provide all of my contact info - which Dead.net already had on file. Whatever idiot designed Rhino's ordering page should be taken out back and shot (probably someone's idiot nephew as someone said already). I already have to go to the DMV today and deal with them this just made my day so much "nicer"
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my brother's family ordered the Dave's Pick subscription for me for Christmas, but instead of sending the confirm to them Rhino sent it to me so I knew what I was getting for Christmas. For some reason they are sending emails to an email address I no longer use - and hasn't been on file with GD for years. When I called Rhino about the issue they said they'd fix but it is February and so far no luck (oh and they sent the first Dave's Picks to my brother's address not mine). Top notch customer service.
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'cause gdstore at warner music was a multidimensional clusterf*** and Rhino was a functioning web portal that actually allowed people to order and pay. I am glad rhino saved the day.
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To my ears, It sounds like Maybe Dave decided to throw in an audio patch so that for a few seconds the listener can get the reverb from Barton Hall on the sweet sweet part of the Garcia Lick, and I totally dig it, what sounds strange is how at like 9:35 it cleans up and sounds quiet. If I was betting man, and especially after listening to the Dave's Pick #20...As well as the Amazing quality Aud. recording of this show over at Archive.Org. Me thinks it is a few seconds of Audience Patch. Just wish the volume or the reverb would have lasted a little longer.
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I agree that that title is a little long and weird and WTF and not my cup of tea. I plan to call it May '77 part 1, like ... it is.
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2/14/683/1/69 2/13,14/70 4/29/71 8/27/72 8/13/75 10/9/76 5/8/77 7/8/78 10/27/79 The TOP rated shows have all been released what is the one show you'd like to see get out of the darkness of the vault & see the light of day? For me it would have to be 12/1/79. Here's hoping that 8/24/72 & 6/10/73 get NORMANIZED one day in the not to distant future. Listen to 5/5/77 because it's Friday. And it's a GRATEFUL FRIDAY
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got a Studio Dark Star and Lovelight then call disconnects. sign me up Rhinos for a plus 1 , May 1977 Box Set. I can pay when all systems go :) recently was spinning some of the May 1977 box set with St Paul and Chicago, there is lots to love about that one. last 5 11.10.73 ~ love this set a little more than the previous night. song selection to start show is a little more rocking 11.9.73 ~ "To Lay Me Down" skull splitters and very sweet "Me And Bobby McGee" Dicks Picks 18 ~ "Bertha" skull splitters Dave's Picks 21 ~ A+ release, fantastic recording, lots of mellow goodness 5.4.91 ~ jam of the week ~ "Victim or the Crime -> "Crazy Fingers" primo stuff
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after checkout it went to cart empty like it had not processed. Looked like a fail but now looking in my email, an order was submitted with order number in email Check your emails people, shopping on this website can get a little wonky as for now, I think my order is complete, Rest easy Techies
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Well, I got a couple of steps closer to purchasing, but still, when I click on "proceed to checkout" I get a page telling me my cart is empty. Is this an early April Fool's Day prank, Rhino? If so: Not Funny.
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Can't tell if my order processed. Went through the checkout process and then it bounced me back to my shopping cart showing the box still sitting there.
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Wow...good to see a couple things this morning: 12/1/79... I've emailed Dave a couple times about this one. Really hope to see it released one day. Really strong and cool show. Dr (um) Brainfart - the Peggy-O on 5/9 is one of (if not the) best versions the dead ever did.
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Not sold out, everybody got theirs.Now what do we do? May 5 is a long way away. July '78 Box is still available, wonder how long this Box will last. 12-1-79 for DaP 23? I can go for that.
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i would have tried to order another and then looked in my email, rhino.com webstore sent order confirmation, even though it looked like a fail, usually after order submit is complete,, it will go to an order summary with confirmation number. in this case it by-passed that and said my cart was empty... appearing as if it had crapped out at the end My opinion you guys should be fine, they will see your comments here and it would be nuttier than squirrel turds if they shut out any one that posted in the comments section. I get the feeling this is going to sell out before end of month So now that 5.8.77 is on vinyl ? will there be an RSD release in April ? really hope so,, and hope its from 1966 ! "One Kind Favor" Rhinos
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Okay, so this does feel like a bit of a cash grab considering the superb-sounding Betty Boards long available for the Godhead of Grateful Dead shows (father, son, and holy spirit; 5/7,8,9), but the slight improvements in mastering and the extra goodies make this one worthwhile. If you're like me and you already own all of the Spring '77 releases and boxed set that have come before, you might as well, might as well. I've always been partial to the Dick's Picks 29 shows as 'best of tour,' but nothing can beat the insane lysergic jamming on Barton's "Dancin' in the Streets" or "Row Jimmy." Take my money please.
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Dang....that is a tasty list of reels, and among them is one of my all-time favorite shows, 6/11/76 - Boston Music Hall. I had emailed Dave about this one a few years back, only to have him state it sadly wasn't in the vault. I suppose we will now All have our own little salivations as we ponder the potential future of reels-to-ears. Happy Long Weekend Friday, All! Sixtus
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My hope is that they left the banter between songs intact and did not eliminate it. Yeah, it makes the show a bit more choppy, but also adds to the appeal. IMO.
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I had guessed it would sell out in 24 hrs, like the recent Daves Picks- but I think website issues might have hindered that. I really hope they still do an April RSD release as well... Dave keeps saying that "theres a lot of really cool stuff coming up" so Im hoping that he wasnt just referring to these releases. Not to sound ungrateful, I mean this is May 77 we're talkin about.
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6100 left as of right now. Yesterday logic told me that a release like this would take at least days to sell out but I was in panic mode like everyone else non the less. I am glad that it has worked out for everyone and we finally have this release to look forward to. 20,000 may have been a better count for this one so I am telling all my friends to grab one while they can, but the other 3 shows may end up being released individually down the road. Happy Friday all
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Love the enthusiasm this news has brought.. This is one of the best weeks for the GD since One From the Vault. Good vibes all around.
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If you hit purchase and then your cart shows empty, it's empty because you successfully made the purchase.Do what mbarilla says and check your email. Also, be patient, the website is quite slow at moving to the next screen. That was part of the problem yesterday, people kept clicking on the buttons thinking that the first mouse click didn't go through, but it did, followed by additional clicks which overloaded the system. It was a self-inflicted denial of service attack. You can tell by people's posts from yesterday that were posted 3-5 times because they kept resending it, thinking that then first one didn't go through. At one point I had 8 Boxes in my cart because I kept hitting the add to cart button but wasn't getting a response, then all of a sudden had 8. Had to close my browser and delete the history to get rid of them.
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Finally got mine. I was in full panic mode last night as I tried several times to order, got bumped off, out, you name it, it happened to me. I even tried calling this morning and got cut off!! Then low and behold came to work, got online, and got it!! It makes for a GREAT Friday. Thanks to Dead.net, Dave Lemiuex & the production crew, and last but certainly not LEAST, thank you Grateful Dead for letting us enjoy the long starnge trip!!
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It is true, I have not listened to these shows. Why? 1977 has never been a go to year for me. I am hoping this box will change that. Now I do own the other 77 boxes. I have only listened to songs not the entire thing. Don't think I haven't tried. It's hard to describe, but after a few songs I feel the need to move on. My goal this weekend is to listen to one complete show either from Winterland 77 or The May 77. Any suggestions on which show? Thanks Now for something completely unrelated: I need to get my hands on the bonus disc from the Cleveland '73 that was included with Denver '73. That 40 + minute Dark Star is killer.
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You should have received a confirmation screen at the time of your order and a follow up email. Another way to check is see if the charge has hit your credit card. At some point before things were directed to Rhino I seemingly made it through the order process - name, address, billing info, and submitted it - but after about 30 seconds the connection dropped before it looked like the purchase was completed, and my guess was nada zilch zip zero. Sure enough, after about 15 minutes of no email and not being able to reaccess the check out page I called my credit card company and there was no charge against it - the charge would have posted at the same time as a successful order. Once Rhino was involved I was able to lock a copy in! Thank you Rhino!
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I also hope they do a RSD release, i was bummed they did not have on on black Friday. I would love for it to also be previously unreleased music. I would rather have the opportunity to get something that has not already came out in a recent box.
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....just got an email from dead.net apologizing for the ordering snafu. Well, at least they are aware. Now, just fix it next time....
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Aaaaaaaand now when I click on Add To Cart, I get a message from my computer telling me I should not continue to that site (the purchase page) because it will expose my computer to malware. This get more and more f'd up at every juncture. I'm sorry, Warner/Rhino/GD, I cannot proceed to put my credit card info into a site with malware. WTF?
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