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May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

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March 27, 2017 - 8:24am

#2851

RV3

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below SPRING '90 Box Set discussion & MAY '77 GSTL

Could not agree more about NOT using the multi-track recordings for SPRING 1990....it is simply a travesty. When I found out that they were doing the Spring 1990 box from the stage mixed stereo recordings VS. the multi-tracks I was very frustrated. How could they have put out a box from that last legendary performed tour & not use the multi-track recordings?!?! That was the whole purpose of multi-tracking Fall 1989-Summer 1990...and the Dead were at their peak! If they need proof of the heavy reverb/echo/distant sound...then they should have learned the lesson with the 3/15/90 Terrapin Station release years before...it was released with the same on stage mixed Cutler recordings as Spring 1990....now SPRING 1990(TOO) made up for it to some extent with the box being from the multi-track recordings, BUT the Spring 1990 box had a lot of HOT shows that just sound very distant with that recording... One other question- does anyone know if the new MAY '77 Box will have all of the Dead Air included....not sure if folks know it, but other than 5/8/77, the other three shows have an EXTRAORDINARY amount of Dead Air in each show between songs...including breaking up segues you would normally see (Estimated>Eyes from 5/7/77)....just should have warts & all if they are going to put these 4 shows out after so long....I would certainly hope at the least, they would have the most famous "Take A Step Back etc" Bobby ever spoke!
March 27, 2017 - 8:22am

#2852

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
September 10, 2009

About "the show that never happened"

The hoax started in the late '90s on Usenet's rec.music.gdeadSome folks got sick of hearing people constantly referring to 5/8 not only as the greatest Dead show, but as the greatest rock concert ever. Someone jokingly suggested the show never happened, a few folks believed that and some other prankster compiled a (fake)list of where the 5/8 songs really came from...it was funny at the time.
March 27, 2017 - 7:22am

#2853

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: Gassed and First Spring 90 Box Musings

First.. loved the Betty Boop gassed clip. It's almost like a flappers psychedelic take on reefer madness. The thirties were an interesting time. I had to comment on musings on the first Spring 1990 box post. I write this while listening to the Today in GD History clip on SiriusXM.. today's cut 3/27/87, Hartford Civic Center, but it puts 1990 in perspective. Jerry's health encapsulated the 80's. Early on, his addiction wasn't common knowledge.. but by late 83 and 1984, it was obvious something was up... The coma and recovery dominated the second half of the decade, it really wasn't until 89 that his strength and stamina were in full swing. He was back. Which brings us to the fall 89, Spring 1990. To be honest.. I was disappointed by the sound of both the Warlocks box set and the first Spring 1990 box. To me, they don't sound crisp.. they sound a little echo'd, muddy, perhaps oversaturated at times, something was amiss but I couldn't put my finger on it.. When I heard they used Cuttler's DAT stereo house mix and not the multi-tracks for the first Spring 90 box, I had an ah ha moment and was really pissed. I was thinking.. if they aren't going to go through the trouble to remix this from the multi tracks now.. they never will and all that work and expense is for naught. Those multi-track masters sat in the vault and were not used. A travesty. I emailed Lemieux asking what the chances are that they ever remix and re-release these? I would be pissed to fork out the dough twice for these shows, but I would do it in a heartbeat nonetheless. Frustrating.. until Spring 90 TOO came out. I remember my first spin of 3/14/90 thinking, now this is kick ass. What an improvement. I could go on, but my point is this was a peak of late era GD. Great performances, song selection, inspired playing and I am happy they released all the shows. Spring 90 has been in my rotation since it came out, I hit it often. My only regret is that they cut some corners on the first box. Sorry for the long winded response.. Happy they released all the shows, its just a sore point they didn't take a little extra care and attention for the first half.
March 27, 2017 - 5:13am

#2854

roll_away_the_dew

Joined:
November 13, 2010

SKU Numbers For the All Music Edition

Anyone who ordered the All Music Edition of Get Shown the Light, could you please look into your order and post here the SKU numbers. I am trying to compare the SKU numbers from the original Limited Box Set to those of the All Music Edition. Thank you so much. Would be a tremendous help.
March 27, 2017 - 4:10am

#2855

Kjohnduff1

Joined:
November 2, 2010

SpaceBrother...

Totally agree... those spring '90 shows get better every time Inlisten to them.Sometimes I get in the mood for the sound of that era and that run is almost always where I turn. There's just something about that run... very comforting to me. Like an old friend...
March 27, 2017 - 3:37am

#2856

Amy from New York

Joined:
October 1, 2016

@gollum

re: Laughing Gas. It seems that folks were discovering the strange and intoxicating effects of this gas long before Ginsberg had ever written about it. Check out this Betty Boop video where she discovers its effects, and inadvertently turns on the entire neighborhood, including the cars: https://youtu.be/-75KlEVgEkQ
March 27, 2017 - 2:34am

#2857

_

Joined:
February 21, 2011

@back to the Knick 3/27/93

On this day in '93 the boys began their 3 night run, mediocre yet memorable. I remember the first set being a bit sloppy, old leather lungs sang a respectable Broken Arrow, Loose Lucy had us going wild and singing along, that song has always been a crowd pleaser. A solid Cassidy as the 8th song of the set had me think it would be break time, as by 1993 first sets had 7 to 8 songs, then Jerry hit the first notes of the final Casey Jones, I was frozen in time, never thought I'd be privy to the last version of it, seemed to go on for ever, although I believe it clocked in at under 6 minutes. The second set really seemed rushed, a quickly played Eyes, in stark contrast to the 1990 Knick version which seemed to be a warmup for the Branford show at Nassau a few days later, then Estimated, a real surprise Comes a Time into a Corrina which I have finally come to appreciate, out of D/S a nice mellow Wheel. The encore had everyone bouncing, Jerry and the drummers did Bobby Fuller proud that night.... Welcome to the working week, have a great Monday...
March 26, 2017 - 9:10pm

#2858

Gollum

Joined:
November 22, 2010

Beat Generation

I guess I came to the Beats just after the Dead. For me it was first the Woodstock music and film, then the Dead, then the Beats. I remember having an Allen Ginsburg book in high school that had "Supermarket in California" and "Laughing Gas". I loved "Laughing Gas"! I still remember the line "woody woodpecker hindoo maniac laughter in the skull" even though I've never tried nitrous. I never had the opportunity! I never saw nitrous for sale anytime in the 27 Dead shows I caught. I would have tried it if I had the chance! Later, in college, I read Kerouac. Dharma Bums was my favorite. I've driven CA I395 often and every time i passed through Lone Pine I couldn't help thinking about of Jack and company partying the night before attempting Whitney Peak. Jack didn't make the summit, something I can sympathize with! Also, "Big Sur". That one is kind of depressing. I can't pass through Big Sur without thinking of Kerouac. Delirium tremens are no laughing matter, but Big Sur is a beautiful place to have them. I don't mean to make light of Jack's illness. It was tragic and he died much too early.
March 26, 2017 - 5:57pm

#2859

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
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3/26/90 - Dozin' at the Knick and Spring '90 first box musings

While listening to these '90 spring shows on their anniversary dates I find myself doing a comparison between the 1996 Cutler and Norman mixes for Dozin' and how they compare to Cutler's original real-time two track live mix. Most of the first set (excluding Big Railroad Blues and Picasso Moon) and the Brokedown Palace encore are on Dozin', which gives an interesting view into the two different recording formats used. The two alternate mix variations are pretty cool to me. Perhaps years from now, or decades, whoever is running the ship for Grateful Dead releases will issue the multi-track version of the shows from the first S'90 box and two-track version for what was in the second S'90 box. In doing that though, I would hope 3/24/90 would be released as it's own full standalone show, as opposed to being spread out over 4 releases. The whole three show run Knickerbocker in 90' is top notch. Much like the Cap Center and Copps Coliseum runs from that year, those lucky enough to have attended got a real treat. Aside from a minor clam towards the end of the Picasso Moon from 3/26, everything else was executed to perfection on that run. Great stuff! Can't get enough of it! Next up is the anniversary of the legendary Nassau '90 run. This tour started at a high bar and maintained it all of the way through. I only grow to love these shows more with time.
March 26, 2017 - 5:33pm

#2860

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Tyranny and Mutation and one off's....

....those first three BOC records are classics imo. Heard Burning For You on the radio in 1981 at the tender age of 13, and had to find out more about this band from Long Island. Wore out my copy of Secret Treaties back in the day. They're still gigging too........one of my favorite Dead one offs was when they broke out Werewolves to open the show in South Carolina on Halloween 1985.... https://youtu.be/IjVdPLtSqj0 ....only time they played SC? I believe so. I think the band popped their load on that song though, as the rest of the show was kinda meh....

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May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

The "All Music" Edition

At the same price as the original.

nice marketing

Good way to sell CDs quick.

Grate

Idea!!! Remember it's ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!!!! However with that being said I'd rather see this with a lower price like say $99.98.

Wish they had preserved ...

... the lively ongoing discussion.

I found it:

Still here: http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-get-shown-light-box

Good move

I think the music only edition is a good move. For me, it's the music that matters and not the "stuff". This makes the music available to those who want it. This is too good to be confined within 15K boxes. The price? Well, I can only assume that there was a high price to pay to even get the tapes.

rhino- kiss my $uckin ass-all music edition

i'll be returning my "numbered" box set because whiners like west and his CAP posts- f all you freakin cry babys-ruin it for everyone-and dont say this from all the whiners complaining that didnt get in-rhino had this planned the whole time-i can't believe this crap-i'm done buying this crap-been spending just like you west-since the 90's-but when i miss out do i complain i like need a sucker in my mouth-and "my heart goes out to you" screw all you hippy $ussys-

Download editions

Probably the mp3 edition will be $99.00 (or less), the lossless FLAC and other formats will be more expensive, but less expensive than the original (sold out) and this larger run ALL MUSIC EDITION.

Lame Bullshit!!!

They announced previously that they were releasing this as in digital formats this May, FLAC/mp3, so at the moment, this is a big fuck you to the people who pay attention and enjoy collectables. I'll be canceling my order. People who missed out could have gotten this digitally and burnt their discs. They had 3+ days to make their order. I'm done with the Grateful Dead's definition of limited edition. Bullshit!

just canceled my # box set

-there west-now there is one more # box set for you to get.JUST GOT OFF PHONE-you little whiny baby.i could see you when your all crying-i cant get through-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - go ahead and blast THIS as not being kind- GO F ALL YOU $USSY MOTHER F

What I am looking forward to the most...

I am highly sympathetic to those who missed out on the GSTL box. Obviously nobody predicted the Internet would break and cause some Deadicated Heads to be denied. Hope this never happens again, and hope those in need get remedied. When I first read about the release there were sparks and shocks. First shock was Cornell is being released. Second was a box with these three other upper deck shows. This was enough to make me feel faint and in need of a seat. I poked though further and was pumped that the 8th was a stand alone. Whaaaat...wait..vinyl? Sparks now flying for me now, a warm feeling hugged me like the sunshine did today and yesterday in the Northeast. Like others I spent more time than necessary making my order. Started thinking about this May 8th, the day I predict our presents will arrive; and I too drifted off into la la land. But, before all this goes down I will down load the FLAC GSTL box on the 5th. Sure the physical CD box will be nice when it arrives. Oh heavens to Betsy the vinyl sure will spin a haze of sonic brilliance. But nothing, nothing will sound as good as that high res download. This is by far and away what I am looking forward to the most. With these sparks, I will bast off...and might not return to Earth to check my mailbox on the 8th. Cheers!

All The music Edition

Excellent, and thank goodness :-)I happened to be utterly skint the last three days. I'd have been happier still with Buffalo as a stand alone release, but this is good; it's on my Christmas list :-) Nice to see the scalpers take a cold bath too :-) Also, i hope Betty is getting her cut; if not, we ought to start a pledge page and make a contribution for each remastered Betty board we buy ... just a thought. yeehaaa!

Limited addition?

Why are some people so mad that this got released as an all music addition? This all music addition does not detract from the awesome limited edition box set you have. The all music addition is the same price and doesn't come with all the extras. If you only bought the limited addition so that you can resell it for a bunch of extra cash (see the definition of a scalper), I can see how this probably lowers the resell value to only $250 instead of $300+. Boo-hoo. I got the limited box and am happy that I did. I'm also happy that anyone who missed out can now purchase this and hear the music. To be pissed about this is selfish and immature.

Liars

Well I guess it had to happen eventually. A promise broken just start make fillmore and stop kidding yourself make it indistinguishable from the original. People who wanted it had plenty of time to buy it and when it comes out buy the downloads after all "it's about the music" not owning cds in the beautiful slipcase. I was lied to Rhino

im selfish and immature

-f u dusty- im not interested in scamming others for 300 dollars-its about-sometimes there aint seat for all- -and if this is -all about the music- sell it for less than 100- screw you dusty

dusty

you probably cried all the time as baby-stick something in your mouth

Why be upset?

It's disappointing to see this "all music edition" after spending two days frantically trying to order this box. Otherwise, I'm happy that everyone is in.

Scalper

Screw you it has nothing to do with scalping anymore than owning a 641/2 Mustang and enjoying the uniqueness make you a scalper

Its About the Music

Guys, chill out. It is about the music not the box. I usually order most everything released, but for those things I missed, I'd be happy to take an "All Music Edition" (although it should be cheaper Rhino). Anyway, why should people who weren't on the scene with money in hand when Fillmore West was released have to pony up hundreds on eBay or be denied these shows? And BTW who are these people who buy up limited edition GD sets and sell them for a profit? no deadhead I know would do that.

would you pay 150 if

the all music edition came out 1st? this is the biggest ass scam- i was so looking foward to this-come home-read west and others are whining like babys because they didnt take opp when they had-then come back a little later-there is all music edition-F U ALL

I really do not mind the all

I really do not mind the all music addition, but shouldn't it be cheaper because you are getting less than the limited edition? At least make it $129.99.

Does anger impair grammar and punctuation?

I'm not the one crying here. Take your hate speech and 4th grade writing style elsewhere.

DUSTY

if i kiss your a$$ and write like dylan can i stay?you too stupid to see the scam-go back to your tv-

GDP/Rhino misleading and deceptive practices

This has nothing to do with scalping. I've never sold a single object on ebay or craigslist. It has to do with GDP and Rhino being misleading and deceptive in their practices and their news release. They knew this was going to sell out quickly and stated so in the newsletter. The newsletter went on to say that that FLACs and ALACs would be available in May. Anyone who wanted to listen to all of these shows could have. It is a cash grab and a finger in the face of those who pay attention and knew about this for months. If they had in turn, including this other box set in their announcement via newsletter and other outlets, it would be a completely different story. This isn't about GDP making people happy. It's about making themGDP/Rhino more money. I'm out. I already cancelled my "limited edition" set, as well as my 7" vinyl subscription. I'll get these off the internet for free and get the last laugh. I've given thGPD tens of thousands of dollars over my lifetime, and my line has been drawn. Money grubbing band, not money grubbing collectors, lets get that right.

Good Decision

This was a good decision. The demand for the box was clearly underestimated. I am glad I got through and got mine ordered on day 1 (after 7.5 hours. But since they missed the mark on demand a lot, putting this out, minus the book, for the same price, was a really good thing to do. I am glad for everyone who wasn't able to get it right away, but now will get what matters - the music.

overwhelming demand??!!!!!!!!!

no shit rhino what did you expect- YOU EXPECTED EXACTLY THIS- i only bought one box set- you stupid too jack

scalpers are pissed

Please cancel your orders and allow a worthy Deadhead to claim your box. So sorry your "limited collectible" (i.e. eBay sale) isn't so exclusive anymore. Allowing as many people as possible to have these CDs is only a good thing, and is so much more important than your little tantrums.

More is good

Glad everyone is going to get a chance to get this. People have been waiting for these shows for a long time. I got mine on the first day, but I can understand the frustration of people who got shut out. I understand everyone's anger at the web fiasco and hope this gets fixed and doesn't happen again. I sat there and tried to order for 8 hours before I finally got through. As for the price.....150 bucks barely gets you dinner in New York. I'm glad to get these shows and have no problem with TPTB getting their cut so that they can continue to release shows! We are all pretty spoiled by the wealth of material released. We should be thankful and smile smile smile.

2nd box

Hey jerk straw my 2nd box was bought for a friend who's a little short right now. Bottom line is this Rhino lied you approve sort of like Fox News and Trump.which one are you

No Problem With This...

I really don't have a problem with a music only edition that lacks a number, in fact I welcome it. I've bought every archival release the GD has put out and I have never thought about it as an investment.Glad everyone is going to have a shot at this run of shows in the format they prefer. It's about the music. I happened to get my order in through Rhino after a few struggles that many of us experienced on Thursday. Yes, the box I got will have a number but that is not what it is about imho. I couldn't tell you the numbers of any of the box sets I have, nor do I stare at them as I jam the tunes. Glad they are opening this up so a ton of people can enjoy the music unlike the coveted Fillmore 69 box. The reality is they announced this box set going into a holiday weekend and they are making sure that people aren't going to miss out on this set. We should be enjoying the triumphant return of these Betty Boards to the vault!

Backfired....

....one would figure that when they announced they were making more, everyone would be happy. All I'm reading is spiteful, demeaning comments. Kinda sad. Although I would agree the all music should be priced less. You get no book and no fancy packaging....

THANK YOU GDM!

I was able to order the box during the first night of sale, but it took three hours of frustration.I was able to order the FW69 box back when that came out. And I was able to order Complete E72 when that came out. I check Dead.net too many times each day to be considered mentally healthy, but I don't want to miss anything. I understand that some people are not here so often and can miss major events like these release announcements. Part of me thinks they should "Work harder" at keeping up, but ultimately I can sympathize with them. I am very happy that you went with an All Music Edition plan on this new release. I am glad you did that with CE72 also. I wish you would on FW69 too. These are CORNERSTONE collections of Deadmusic. This music has a legacy of being widely shared. The size of the Deadhead community reflects this history. Sharing the music is the good vibe. Hiding the music is BS. (I do enjoy most 70s Dead more than most 80s Dead, but I want ALL of it SHARED!) This business model of limited editions has made commercially viable the releasing of a vast amount of music. I thank you for that. But, it has also attracted and cultivated a "collector" community in our midst. I wish TPTB could settle on a new business model that isn't so inviting to selfish "collectors". Poetry420: Please Do cancel your order, sir. There are Deadheads that will gladly take your copy off GDM's hands.

Stop the bs

It ain't the music it's the I want something physical. If it was the music you'd just buy the download. No it's become ok for everyone to lie. Trump has taught you well. I wonder what your word is worth if you would so easily encourage another to break theirs. Rhino better give those of us who back them asap each release something to make up for this disgrace. Beware the future Dead/Rhino

If they (Rhino/GD) can make

If they (Rhino/GD) can make an "All Music Edition" of this to help "make sure that everyone who wants the remastered audio from these shows on CD is able to get it." Then Rhino/GD can make "All Music Editions" of the 30 Trips and May '77 boxes too! I want the music that was released on those boxes but was not able to procure the boxes at the time of release. Stop with the BS and if Rhino/GD TRULY means that they want everyone to hear the music then make "All Music Editions" of ALL the boxes!

hey snafu.....

.....so you don't want other cool deadheads to have this music? Why do you want to be "the only one who has it"? When I went to dead shows, we SHARED with each other........I guess you are only happy when others aren't?? I'm real glad others get to have this music and I am not a Trump guy. I do not understand your anger at all.

Just a thought

It seems as thought none the downloads are available for any of the box sets for some time now. I think they are have trouble with and won't be able to make good on this one being available for digital in may.

All music edition

That's what allowed me to get all the Europe '72 CDs. I hesitated on the steamer trunk and then it was gone..... The only people who should be upset about this are scalpers.

Cool with Me....

But this business model perhaps relies on the secondary market to move the initial product. I'm all for all music for all, But does that mean the "All Music" Editions of FW69 or even Dave's Picks Volumes 1-4 with bonus disc are on the way? If so, my credit card is ready. If not, so be it. I skipped work Thursday to score one of these (when we broke the Internet.). Release all the old stuff Rhino/Warner! The precedent is set! Peace and out! I just want the music anyway!!!!!

Limited Editions

Just my take, and this will hopefully not offend anyone. But I purchased the initial box, and couldn't be happier there's an All Music Edition. Honestly I was bummed when it sold out so quick, because this is a Holy Grail type of release. To me, this is like showing up to a sold out concert, then they decide to open up the grandstands and- the more the merrier. I'm the last person who wants anyone to miss out on the music. In a perfect world, limited editions wouldn't even exist- of course, just my opinion.

I have zero sympathy for scalpers

They take their risks, they live with them. Glad to see that this is being made more widely available. Good for everyone. So getting the booklet is a little bonus for jumping in early, and the price stays the same, so what? This stuff is really well made, takes a lot of effort to make, and should not be compared to a free bootleg or lower quality archive recording because it "used to be free". Even that was a gift from the band to allow it before it was ever a common practice. Without a sustainable model like this, we would never have access to such great quality recordings of these shows. While it's a bit disconcerting to always have to guess whether they will release more beyond the initial limited batches, it's their decision to make. Other than FW 69 complete, which very clearly stated it would not be extended beyond the first batch, I would think they can decide on whatever basis they want to whether to create re-issues. It worked for E72 and Dick's Picks, and I hope they will do more of Dave's Picks and Road Trips too eventually, through Real Gone or whomever, in reasonable quantities that work well for both them and the eager buyers out there.

Buffalo, mastered

Making hard-copy cd's available to everyone was the right move. These three nights are on the Mount Rushmore of shows. If there wouldn't be a full fledged revolt, they would probably reissue FW. Thank you. I can't wait to hear what Jeffrey's done with Betty's recordings.

Really

I am ashamed of this petty crap , wah I didn't get one so all that did suck , the dead suck , the vault sucks . and omg there making money. This whiney crap is exactly what is wrong with this country . I want it so I have a right to it . No you don't ! This is a business 1st and foremost , there job is to make money . Thinking they did . There will be a download just get that . Be glad this music is even available . I know dozens of you will blast me , don't care . Yes I got one , matter of fact I got 2 , one to play, one for when that one wears out someday . I have worn out many a record and cd , so I cover the bases . Just quit crying its annoying , if I hadn't gotten a copy I would of been oh well better luck next time . Been listening to this band since 71 . still don't have a right to anything.

15,000

I am confused as to how having an All Music Edition somehow diminishes the Limited Edition box set. It is still limited and collectible in its own right for those that like to collect things. I think the All Music Edition makes it accessible to people who really wanted physical media of all 4 shows of this release, but were not fortunate enough to get through, to get it without having to pay an extra premium.

Still a good buy.

Still, it is a good buy. You can get the Peter Conners book very cheap, if you know where to look. I'm glad this all music edition is available.

deja vu all over again

A first world problem, this. Which goes without saying, but I typed it anyway. "All Music Edition should be cheaper" No, it shouldn't. Those that scrambled to order before it sold out ~ an urgency created by the "limited edition" format ~ should not be penalized by paying more than they needed to, as they might've been quite content to opt for the cheaper edition had it been offered from the get-go. "the only people who should have a problem with this are scalpers" First, I don't have a problem with it and I ordered the Full Monty in time. But I don't quite agree ~ a measure of frustration should not be limited to "investors." Consider: * TPTB should really not be blindsided by overwhelming demand for this box, with its modest size vs. musically Herculean stature. The Europe '72 steamer (7200 units, six times as many discs) sold out in a weekend. Could anyone have reasonably assumed 15,000 would cut it for this release? Summer '78 is one thing, but the Cornell '77 run? * The limited quantity created a lot of stress for those trying to order it before it sold out. I had zero problems placing my order, but the issue was real enough for dead.net to issue an apology. * Then, there's just the false advertising factor -- the bad taste of a marketing ploy, whether it truly was or wasn't. Again, you just think the powers should know better by now. Last point said, this isn't nearly as lame-feeling as the Europe '72 announcement of individual show availability was for me. A lot more money was involved for that box, and I indeed felt hoodwinked. Because I would not have sprung for the whole tour had I known in advance. (Am I glad I did? You betcha ~ steamer trunk still might be my favorite box ever.) So I honor the right of the frustrated to feel so. That said, I'm honestly glad they made more in this case. I think it's the better thing to do than not, weighed against the degrees of impact to those offended. p.s. 5/8/77 overrated? Sure, ice cream and The Beatles are overrated, too....

anton

Revolver: Yes.AmeriCone Dream: No.

How does one . . .

. . . wear out a cd? In 30 years of buying those shiny puppies, I've NEVER worn one out.

Ice cream....

Neopolitan - yesMoose tracks - no. I could eat a whole tub of that yummy goodness

All the Drama now included for one low low price

I don't get it - people b!tch when it sells out and b!tch when they add a way to get the music. As someone pointed out, 15,000 is 2.1 million in revenue. So if for instance the July 78 box set sells only 7,500, they have 1 million dollars of unsold inventory on the books. It is a risk to release this, as it (cornell) has been widely commercially available for years as a bootleg of varying quality, but from the same source. Being a limited release is a marketing ploy, but certainly a reasonable one. Once it's sold out they no longer have to stock it, inventory it, let it get shop worn etc. With the number of releases possible from the betty boards coming in the next many years (5 a year is still 20 years) it is reasonable to limit how long each release is available. If you want just cornell, there was no limit. If you wanted the ancillary shows, they set a limit. Once they found demand exceeded the supply, they have a stripped down set to satisfy those people for whom a digital download was somehow unacceptable Is having a number on the box and a copy of the $15 book enough to drive you mad when you don't get it ? I have to admit I like the idea of a special box, but if it was between nothing and all music version, I'd complain a bit about the price being the same, but still buy it. Does it diminish the "value" of the numbered ones ? A bit yes, as the demand is being satisfied by making the unnumbered ones available. Is that a big issue - no - unless you were planning on cashing it in as an investment like beanie babies or a Franklin Mint limited edition plate "Cheeses of Nazareth" Is the investment value the primary interest in all this ? If so, you may wish to look on eBay for the princess Di beanie to put your 401k funds in, as dead cds seem to unreliable vehicles.

Kat

AmeriCone Dream: well, you know my answerAmerican Dream: meh, but the Crosby tunes are solid Vguy, Neapolitan: yeah, but Neapolitan Dynamite: even better (Cherry Garcia instead of strawberry) strawberry: Haagen Dazs or bust Kate, Haagen Daz strawberry: if you ever again entertain AmeriCone

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