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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    Hang in there Critter
    We're thinking of you "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    News Flash-Euro 72 Big Box Set-For Real?
    All, I found this article on a GD music website (Workingman's Tracker). I don't have a copy of the February 3-11 Rolling Stone but if anyone does, give it a good look and comment! Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead This is an article from this week's Rolling Stone (Feb 3 '11, page 22). My first thought was, "This has to be a hoax..." But here it is: DEAD REACH BACK TO LEGENDARY 1972 TOUR FOR MASSIVE BOX SET Due in fall, the 60-plus CD release includes every show from European trek. On April 1st, 1972, the Grateful Dead arrived in Britain for the opening dates of their first European tour. The timing was perfect - "the feast of fools," guitarist Bob Weir says, laughing. "There was a challenge for us, playing for people not familiar with what we were up to. But we were ready for fresh ears...we were hot."... In the fall, the tour will be released by Rhino as a limited-edition beast: 22 shows on more than 60 CDs. The lavish set, available by pre- order from the Dead's website, will cost over $400 and is unprecedented even by their archive-box standards. "By the time we're finished, we'll have put two years into this," says producer David Lemieux, who expects mixing and mastering to wrap by June. "If there was ever a tour that needed a complete release, it was Europe '72. It's one of the top three tours the Dead ever did, and there's a pristine 16-track recording of every show..." "I remember that tour clearly," says bassist Phil Lesh, noting that no one in the band had been to Europe before. [SIC] "In Hamburg, we played in the hall where Brahms played. In Paris, I literally felt the spirits of Chopin and Debussy. I think that made us play better. I remember being on..." "Someone would catch fire, and that would spread," Bob Weir says. "I'd catch a riff everyone coalesced around. Then someone else would come up with something that took us another way. It was a collective flash - time to move on." The Dead were in dramatic transition that spring, emboldened by the jazzy ambitions of new pianist Keith Godchaux. "It was amazing how tuned in he was to our music," Lesh says. "In Paris, he played like a god." The European tour was also the Dead's last with ailing singer-organist Ron 'Pigpen' McKernan, who died in 1973. "He didn't have as much energy as before," Weir says, "but he was trying his best to deal with it."... Lemieux says other Dead tours deserve full release, such as the fall of '73 and spring 1990: "It's such a diverse band. You can do boxes from '72 and '89 back-to-back, and there's nothing similar about them, except it's Grateful Dead music." "It all boils down to, 'Is there a story there?'" says Weir. "If we can find an era like this, with a story line and development - and I have a feeling there is - there would be merit in doing this again."
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    CC: Hope you get some rest and your mom feels better soon. I have not experienced a lot of the issues that some of you have dealt with on a personal level but I've been there too. In 2006, my daughter was born 3 months premature and spent about 2 1/2 months in the childrens' hospital. That was the one of the most stressful times in my life. It was a living hell. Been there. I feel for all of you having hard times. My daughter is doing fine now and is such a blessing and did not have any of the bad outcomes the doctors said she would have. My prayers go out to all of you having a tough time.
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    My Viner Family Please Read the last post here
    I needed to write a little letter to you all...and here it is.http://www.dead.net/forum/going-furthur Copy and pasted. Hey boyz and girlz...LOVE YOU....missed you too. Figured I'd just write everything here, because I assume most people check this thread. I've been under some serious pressures lately, Mom is back in the hospital, and honestly when she was out it was like a full time babysitting job. So, I appreciate all the kind vibes from all you from before, she's doing ok, just not there yet. Also, I've been working on projects @ the same time so I've had to put PRIORITIES ahead of being online and talking to my family. I will be getting everything squared away here in the next couple of days, I really just need to sleep and take a breather from the Chaos of what I've been dealing with. So please don't think that I've forgot about prizes and Getting back online/chatting/talking/vining and talking with all you kind folks. Just know that I've been under EXTREME stress with Mom's Disease and dealing with the game called "Life". Thanks for understanding, and I love you my family....ALOT! In fact without some of my close friends and dead.netters (family freinds) I don't think I'd still be sane right now. Love, Canyon Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥
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    I am putting in 2 vine request. Not sure what's out there. 1) JGB with Cats under the stars (1977/78) 2) Late '69 (August through December) Early '69 sounds totally different than late '69 stuff. I have 4 shows from this late '69 era: 8/23, 9/1 (gaps between tracks), and 12/31 (gaps between tracks). I can vine 8/23 if that is not out there. I'll go check.
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    Get well soon... Joe
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    get well smiley. you just never know what people are going through.
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    Get yourself better smiley! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    feel better smiley dave!
    Awww, don't worry about it, get well! Thanks nephew!
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    Sorry every one !! Smiley Asks for Forgiveness....
    My name is Ryan,Smiley's nephew. He has been in the hospital for over a week. They said he should be out wed or thursday. He has been freakin out not getting what you call VINES? He wanted me to tell you last week. I forgot was more concerned with him. He said you would know what he means Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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I`ll start putting something together .
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If there is interest I can start a vine. I have offered in the past with no takers. I have almost all of 1995 shows. I have listed the ones that I have already converted from tape to CD. These shows are Digital clones of Gen 1 DAT or 2nd Gen Tape. Yes I still have DAT. They are rotting away a slow death. I went DECK to CD Burner. I use a Sony RCD-W500C Burner. I love it and can copy a vine in 20 -30 minutes. Anyway the list below I have already transfered. I will be checking the reponses I see. PM if interested and I will start a vine. All SBD>C except 03-19. If there is a huge response I can vine all of the shows below in 3 waves.02-20 02-21 03-17 03-18 03-19 Af:DAT>C 03-23 03-26 03-27 04-02 04-07 06-02 06-25 07-06 07-09 Let the music flow.... Deadtaper
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Yes. I want as much '95 as possible. Yes, I'll take them in a vine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! '94 and '95 are my favorite 90s years. Jerry's voice sounded clearer.
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Im going to Chicago next week for the Furthur shows and will be up there for a week or so. I shouldent hold up any vines for very long but I just wanted to let everyone know. Peace and Love, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Hey Trevor, I think you will enjoy the shows. I went last night to Radio City. It was the first time I was back there since I saw three shows from the 1980 run. Brought back a lot of memories. Last night was a fine show. Pretty tight and they actually sounded like the Grateful Dead at times. I got to see Viola Lee Blues and Mason's Children live. Phil is still amazing. Of course, it ain't the same without the Fat Man, but I really enjoyed the night. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Anyone notice that they changed the cassette card (j card) picture on deadlists.com? It was 9/23/72 forever.
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By a conservative count, I have 130 GD and JG shows in my possession that I have not listened to, most I haven't even converted yet. Thus, the acquisitions MUST desist. I'm gonna take a break from signing up for vines until I catch up (unless something I really want presents itself, such as the Feb 80 JGB vine Stuman is working on). I've removed myself from the vines that I was signed up for. Listening to a show a day, which is what I normally do, if not more, and I should return to full vining status in 4 months, haha. Of course, I will get out what I have and what I mistakenly receive. Don't worry, I'm not a quitter, I'm just on hiatus.
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"Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I was wondering if you lose any quality or integrity by moving or I should say copying your flac/shn files from one external hard drive to another one?? I'd like to organize my music files across my various HD's but won't do it if it compromises quality. Thanks in adance for any advice!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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they will all copy 100% faithfully. Don't forget to make back ups as well...I know to my cost that it's worth the trouble
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I have transfered files between 3 diferent hard drives and I hav`nt noticed any loss of quality.
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Enjoy the "hiatus."Just don't disappear from Dead.net completely. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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who helped me add to my Joe Walsh collection. I don't suppose anyone has some good Three Dog Night shows do they? If you know of any PM me, I have lots to trade. Thanks
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I am like Derek. I have a lot of unconverted flac files. I have at least 200 converted shows plus another....um....30+ of unconverted. When I get a flac vine, I just burn a copy of the DVD and pass it on and convert the stuff later..or maybe not at all. I am not dropping out but I am slowing down. :-) I am posed and ready to pounce on deadtaper's '95 vine when it comes out!
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Don't we have a whole lifetime to listen to the music we get from these vines? All I need are external hard drives, good organization and a good system for converting and listening. I say keep on vining no matter what! "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I keep a good rotation, around 5 new cd's a week. Of course I always have room for my favorites. Hearing Garcia count everyone through an early version of Loser on the Perro tapes is classic!
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I'm reaching my saturation point too. I have more than I can listen to in a lifetime in shn/flac format. My wife has kindly pointed that out to me several times ;-) Lopezz, good idea to use R/W CDs. I tend to playback the shn/flacs using Foobar, and when I find a really good show I'll burn to CDs. My goal is to be able to set up a set of hard drives and throw a wireless signal from the PC to my stereo so I can use the PC as my jukebox. No more CD player at all and no need to burn CDs except for road trips. I have Foobar and TLH at work too, so I really don't need CDs. I spend most of my time on trying to organize and catalog what I have. The more I add, the further (!) behind I get on that side, so it is time to slooooooow down. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Whenever I reach the saturation point, it always becomes a matter of quality over quantity.For example, mp3 improves to Shn/Flac and the next groove will be 24-bit. I'd sure like to hear a show or two of those Apr.'71, Fillmore shows el TejonCosmico was trying to sell earlier, wouldn't you? Where does the time go? "
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Hey all - Yesterday I jumped on the bus in Broomfield and am riding it the rest of the tour to the Bill Grahm Civic Auditorium for Phils Birthday. I may get a little back-logged on a couple of vines but will certainly get caught up when I return. As far as slowing down - I just bought a couple of new HD's from Sam's Club. So I am pushing on - keep those vines coming :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Lopezz...a JW vine or add it to a FWGV vine perhaps? I'm a big JW fan. JackStraw - I'm jealous - following them across the country - awesome to be able to do that. If I wasn't busy, I'd come down to BG Civic Auditorium and meet you there for a beer at least ;-) "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Keep a song in your heart. some Joe Walsh please. Greg
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I've got a beauty from Oroboros, 11-11-81 pre FM King Biscuit Flower Hour. Also another good one from Stuman, James Gang 9-8-06 AudMatrix. I have a very quiet audience recording from 8-19-97, a SBD from 11-24-73 University of Texas, a live compilation from 81-91, and then some Eagles concerts, 4 I think.
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Hey all.... been AWOL awhile.... and have some vines to get out this week.... mea culpa and my apolgies.... BUT!!! What is the best way to burn 24 bit to DVD or to CD for playback purposes! I have no knowledge... but the few 24 bit shows I do have sound considerably better even through the computer add on speakers I use.... so I want to get them onto my DVD surround sound system but have failed to do so so far. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Raymond
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Cosmic Badger wrote a nice piece on this.Page 10 about 1/2 way down. Quote" 24 Bit avatar On February 7th, 2010 cosmicbadger said: can sound fantastic Witness the mindboggling 24 Bit versions of the of the fabulous April 71 shows that are appearing these days (the latest is 4-26-71). The main drawbacks are that the files are MUCH bigger and you cannot convert them to WAV (without losing all the audio benefits). And of course the audio source must be of good quality to be be able to make a difference. To listen you have two main choices Play through a 24 Sound Card or Digital Audio Converter. Your PC is unlikely to have such a thing internally. I have an external 24 Bit box that sits between my computer and my hi-fi. Its not the best you can get but it does the job. Burn to an Audio DVD or Video DVD and play through a suitable player. You can find out much more about entering the world of 24 bit by reading this http://24bit.turtleside.com/ and through this discussion http://www.shnflac.net/forum.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=10231 WOW as I write I see that a new 24 Bit Matrix of 74-6-23 Jai Alai Fronton has just appeared."
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Any interest in an 8 show SHN/FLAC Led Zeppelin vine? I should soon be receiving 8/31/69, 1/22/73, 5/13/73, 2/12/75, 2/28/75, 3/5/75, 5/25/75 and 6/1/77. Most are supposed to be of very good sound quality.
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"And I love the life I liveAnd I'm gonna live the life I love"
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"And I love the life I liveAnd I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I will be away all weekend. Can somebody sign me up for the '95 vine part 1 if it gets posted? I have been waiting since the middle of the week, and I bet it will get posted when I am not around to sign up. Thks
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Stu, I picked up this entire show tonight from LL. I'll send a copy over to you. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Unclejon, I also got it from LL but acording to the notes it is only set 2 and set 3 . I would love to have that entire show , I`ll go over to LL and look for it . save you the postage if i find it . Thank you Unclejon . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I just looked into LL and Workingmans, the recent torrents uploaded there are only sets 2 & 3. this is the complete source gd66-11-29.sbd.ret.20448.sbeok.shn . But thanks for the kind offer Unclejon . And thank you Ltapilot ! If anyone has any 66 that is not on my 66 shn/flac vine please let me know . we could work a trade or something . Hope you all have a nice weekend !! *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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Good catch Stu! Now I want that first set too! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Since at least one person wants it, I will vine it! I received the first 4 shows yday and am listening to a very hot 2/28/75 right now (google "rampaging cajun" and "led zeppelin" to find out info on it if you want). The No Quarter was awesome. Once I receive the other 4 shows (sometime next week in all likelihood) I will vine the whole thing.
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Oh I will bet big that more than one person is interested ;-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I bought 2 From the Vault years ago, when it came out. I didn't pay much attention when the reissue appeared, but after hearing the 8/23 Alligator/Caution on the Taper's Section, I'd be willing to shell out again for 2 From the Vault if I knew that was what appears on the bonus disc. Can anyone confirm that's the date from which the bonus tracks are taken?Thanks for your time. Steve
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According to www.deaddisc.com/disc/Two_From_The_Vault.htm it is possible you have those additional tracks already... quote 'There was some confusion on the original release of this set as to the date of the recordings. Initially the music was thought to be from both August 23 and August 24 1968. It has since been determined though that the music on Two From The Vault is all from August 24, 1968. The additional tracks added as a third disc for the expanded edition are from August 23rd, 1968. The Alligator > Caution > Feedback sequence that forms the third CD in the expanded edition has previously been released on; * The Golden Road (1965-1973), Grateful Dead, 2001 * Anthem Of The Sun, Grateful Dead, 2003 (expanded edition) ' unquote
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Thanks for the information!
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hey I was not criticising you in any way about launching those April 71 vines....you can't be expected to read minds :-) what is important is that someone got those shows out because they are soooo good. Happy that it is you.
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I too have been unable to burn as of yet... but even just listening on my upgraded computer speakers.... these 24 bit are fantastic! Esp. this '71 run.... I also DL'ed an '85 show that was better but not quite as pronounced as the Fillmore shows of '71. Maybe this weekend I will actually figure out how to play them from the DVD player... Raymond
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As soon as I get Portland I'm going to seed the winter 2010 tour including phil's birthday. There will be a couple of shows in 24bit format too. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Hey viners!The Bus is posting his JGB 1981 project on bt.etree. I have d/l part 1 and am getting ready to d/l part 2. If any one out there wants to collaborate on this project PM me and we can start a joint vine. If not no worries I'll keep plugging away, parts 3 and 4 are up now and I think there will be more parts coming. Speaking of joint... (~) : } "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Any one have this one and would be willing to Vine or trade? Thanks in advance, Marty
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Does anyone have any live YES from the '73 - '74 Tales from Topographic Oceans tour? Not sure if YES is trade friendly. I had some stuff years ago and was lost when the computer died.
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I have a show or 2 but not from that tour. I'd be up for some mid-70's Yes. BTW, I got the Led Zep shows in over the weekend. I'll have an 8 show SHN/FLAC vine posted later this week.
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I also have some Yes , but also not from The Topograghic tour . I`ll look into the HD`s and post what I have later . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I saw some questions around 24 bit. I just figired this out myself so passing the info along. After downloading the flac files I drag them into an opensource program called dvd-audiofile version 0.60. I then hit the create ISO button. I then use Roxio to burn the ISO image onto dvd (note this is essentially burning a data disc onto dvd). This creates a DVD Audio disc which will play in DVD players that can decode that. I haven't found many sources worthy of this so far but at least I figured out how to do it. If you have questions let m eknow. Marty