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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • Ken Goodman
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    Newly discovered (by me) at local coffee shop...90's album byBrian Jonestown Massacre : "Their Satanic Majesties Second Request." Terrific example of trippy hypnotic drone music wherein vocals do not distract listeners from creative/artistic concentration. Kewl stuff!
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    Thanks wharfratx - as much as I love the Closing Of Winterland, I don't recall the Johnny B. Good on that one.
  • wharfrattx
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    Keithfan, lovin' the play by plays but don't forget about the JBG encore from 12-31-78! Jerry is positively blazing! Check out the Closing of Winterland DVD. Never a more animated Garcia will you ever see! Butter!
  • KeithFan2112
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    Day 6 / Europe '72 / April 17, 1972 Night #2 at the Tivoli Theater, of course, was the night the Dead were recorded for television. If you thought these guys would be a little stiff in front of the cameras, think again. As the liner notes point out, they had no problem mugging for the cameras in clown masks or introducing a new song (He's Gone). Yeah, that's pretty loose. They even opened the show with a song that hadn't been played on the tour yet; for fuck's sake, if you're going to dust off a song, put it in the second set after you've warmed up! But if there's any question still - the onstage banter about monitor levels after Next Time You See Me will put all doubts to rest. This is not how a band plagued by nerves behaves. It's the type of thing that seasoned Dead Heads are used to by now, but to put the moment into historical context with the TV cameras and the overseas crowd, it demonstrates that the stage is their home, and it doesn't matter what country that stage is in, who is watching them, or whether or not their behavior is being immortalized on TV. Home is where you're comfortable being yourself, and they pull this shit all the time. 4/17 is one of my go-to shows from April. It should be noted early on that Keith Godchaux is high in the mix again, and he's having a typically good night. They open the show with a Cold Rain & Snow that is hands-down my favorite of all time. I initially came to know this song as the opener from Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead: England '72 (taken from the E72 show at the Lyceum on 5/24). It grew on me and became a favorite Dead song; but as my collection grew, I noticed they didn't play it that often. The Ladies & Gentlemen version is definitely hot, but for my part, I prefer Keith's input, and that's where 4/17 trumps 5/24 from Steppin' Out. In an otherwise identical performance, Keith is higher in the mix on 4/17, and it's good stuff. Opened with a doozie - check. The sound is a liiitle bit better on this one (all E72 sounds great, but some shows sound a liiitle bit better). They slide Me and Bobby McGee into the #2 slot, as Bobby's first song, and I find myself paying more attention to it here. It's flawless, of course, and Bobby's vocals are spot on. Better understanding of what freedom means - check. The rest of the first set is a little bit different, as it consists of stellar short length rockers, so the energy and momentum is sustained with very little interruption. The only "ballad" per se is the first performance of He's Gone, but even that one was played pretty fast in the early days of its performance life. I love this rendition; in fact, I love all three versions that were played prior to the development of the "going where the winds don't blow so strange" bridge. I may even prefer it. This has something to do how my brain was hardwired for He's Gone, as the only version I knew for years was performance #2 from Rockin' The Rhein. I don't discount the greatness of the outgoing jam in Englishtown '77, but if I had to pick one version of He's Gone for the desert island, it would be from 1972, and at that, it would probably be one of the first three. I like it faster, I like it without the bridge, and I like it without the "whoa-o-whoa, nothin's gonna bring him back" outro. Difficult to undo hard wiring - check. Yeah, I just copped out on the rest of the first set. It's Europe '72, it sounds great, it flows well. More great China Cat Sunrider, Jack Straw, and Black-Throated Wind, no Good Lovin' this time around. Second set has a typically great Playing In The Band; another great Pigpen / Hammond-laced Sugaree; an early One More Saturday Night that they threw in to finish off the stint on TV; solid El-Paso (with more great piano); another great Truckin'; a Ramble On Rose that also features some great Hammond chops from Pigpen and piano greatness from Keith (this song peaked on the Europe '72 tour IMHO). It Hurts Me Too - outstanding. It both peaked and died on the Europe '72 tour. Jerry's blues soloing is outstanding, and he did it so infrequently that it's always a treat. Enjoy. They end up doing a third set because of the TV affair. The show was not really longer for having a third set; it was more like three shorter sets. It went like this: Dark Star => Sugar Magnolia => Caution => Johnny B. Goode. The Dark Star is one of the best of the eleven that they played on the tour, I think even better than the one they played at Tivoli on night #1. The main theme noodling and improv jamming that goes on in the first ten minutes is melodic and superb; the vocal section is fine as can be; the post vocal improv section is melodic and up-tempo; the Space section and subsequent discord is sharp but not overcooked; and then there's the final movement, which is this great jazz piece with lots of cool double-time on the ride symbol from Billy underlying these great piano leads from Keith (which is all decorated with some of that well-timed Hammond goodness from Pigpen, and additional embellishment from Bobby, Phil and Jerry). The transition into Sugar Magnolia on this night is a Face Melt Special with extra How Do They Do This. So...extra melodic thirty plus minute Dark Star without overcooked cacophony section, featuring one of the best transitions into Sugar Magnolia ever - check. Sugar Magnolia is a thing of beauty in 1972. It reached fruition on the Europe '72 tour and sustained that magic through Veneta; but it slowly began to change, and by 1973 it was not quite the same creature. It was still a great song by any band's standards, but something elemental had been lost - perhaps it wilted in Pigpen's absence. It no longer evoked the Sunshine Daydream itself, only reminded us of what that dream had been like. In any event, it's still all caught up in sunlight on this night. The transition from Dark Star is ushered in with some rare non-chordal organ notes from Pig, which fade out as each band member joins the high times of Europe '72 Sugar Magnolia. For fans of the Billy drum fill, he goes with the smooth roll on the floor toms on this one. Caution is incredible. If this show were available on Dead.net still, I would say just buy it for Caution. It goes on for 23+ minutes and showcases one of the rarest (and greatest) elements of the McKernan years: the Pigpen-Godchaux double-barrel keyboard extravaganzational assault. I don't think the keyboards ever sounded better than the Hammond-Steinway / organ-piano blend that they achieved with these two onstage, and the Caution jam is where it climaxed. With only four or five performances the entire tour, and Pigpen's sporadic presence in the mix, this might be the best of the best. Don't miss the trademark Caution bomp-bomp-boms at 18 minutes or so; it's actually kind of cool that Pig raps over them on this version, as it's customarily an instrumental passage. If nothing else, Pigpen demonstrates his versatility as a lyricist here, as he manages to incorporate some stanzas about a certain demure young woman we heard him woo during his Good Lovin' rap the previous night. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) with lady who still has her leg up against the wall - check. Inventing a new adjective - check, check. I usually turn off Johnny B. Goode, unless it's Three From The Vault or this show. It's really good here (and the only performance from the tour). There used to be an hour of a great quality video footage on youtube, but alas, it's been taken down. There are however, still a couple of tracks still up there - He's Gone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-yDZdHn6mw
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    I bought this LP not long after it was released in March of 1975. About 10 years ago, I transfered it to CD-R. It's clean sounding, but you can tell that it's from vinyl. I listen to it from time to time and I do appreciate it. If you have a copy on hand, read the credits on the back cover. I see "Published by Artists Publishing Collective except: ..." I wonder if this has anything to do with why this album has not been released on CD yet. According to bizpedia.com: Artists Publishing Collective, Incorporated is a California Domestic Corporation filed on January 23, 1975. The company's filing status is listed as Suspended and its File Number is C0729867. The company's principal address is 1016 Lincoln Avenue, San Rafael, CA 94902. Hmmm...
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    I finally got to listening this officially released nugget again. It's only my 3rd time from this box. I know this show quite well from previous unofficial recordings - cassette & CD-R, but this 3rd disc containing Dark Star> Sug Mags> Caution> JB Goode really shone brightly this morning while listening to it. It's as if I heard it for the 1st time - excitedly and with no expactations.An amazing great show, but all of Europe 72 is like that.
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    I may be wrong but I thought that it was Keith's untimely death that caused the "break up". It is a shame that the Keith & Donna album is pretty much the only Round/Grateful Dead catalog release that has never been reissued on CD. Maybe one day it will happen.
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    Not that it matters to the music...but I wonder what caused Keith & Donna to "break up?" Probably an intriguing soap opera there.
  • KeithFan2112
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    Day 5 / Europe '72 / April 16, 1972 This was the first show I bought from the E72 box set. I had already owned RTR & HYH since they'd been released, but never the original E72 LP/CD. After a many-years layoff from the Dead, I saw Sunshine Daydream in the rack at Barnes & Noble, and was impressed by the hype sticker that indicated it was the most requested Dead show ever - and I bought it. The rest is history. In my search for something to rival the fantastic Veneta show, I looked online and found a Rolling Stone article that listed 4/16/72 in the top 20 best Dead shows ever. Soon after, I ordered it from dead.net and the addiction that had taken hold with Veneta was firmly underway. My first impression was very positive. RTR was THE music that pulled me into the Dead's orbit many years before, and HYH was high on my playlist as well - so expectations were running high. I was still in the phase of cherry picking "best of all time" song performances, and I was looking forward to the extended jam version of Playing In The Band without Donna, and the extended jam Truckin'. The Greatest Story opener is solid; however, my trepidation about Donna has long since dissipated, and I miss her "cool clear water" vocal, which is now the highlight of the song for me. Sugaree is one one my favorite pre-hiatus versions, because there's some subtle reverb from the barn's acoustics that treats Jerry's guitar line nicely; but more still, Pigpen's organ is great accompianment on this song, and he's (thankfully) up in the mix on this show (not always the case). There are a couple of great tour rarities played here - Cumberland Blues and Dire Wolf. At the time I bought this show, I considered them both throwaways; today they're an integral part of my listening experience, and an element that makes this show a little bit special. Jerry is in prime Bluegrass picking mode during the solos on CB, and Billy drives a swinging no-nonsense rhythm train through Dire Wolf, with plenty of off beat fills that make this slow folk tune sound like an up-tempo rocker - all Billy. China Cat Sunrider is one of my favorites of the tour. There's not much more to my liking it than Jerry & Bobby's sharp crystal clear picking throughout - not that they don't always play it well, but between the barn acoustics and some x factor I can't put a finger on, it's one of the versions I turn to most often. Good Lovin' is a 20 minute affair, and let's just say - she's a bitch dog in heat who got to turn her oven around so Pigpen can smell it (did he really say that?). Tennessee Jed is great - I get the feeling this was one of their personal favorites to play, because you can feel it grow throughout the tour, not so much in arrangement, but in intensity. The jam that leads up to the final chorus of the song seems to get longer and stronger with every performance, and everyone gets involved. Compare to 10/21/71 and you'll hear what I mean. Deal I love best in '72, and while I used to talk up Veneta the most, this 4/16 version has caught my fancy lately (despite Billy coming in late at the beginning - drummers, always late). Jerry's solo, wah wah, and stretched out vocals are what hit the spot. I like this Loser a lot, the harmonies are perfect. The second set jam is worth the price of admission: Truckin' => Jam => TOO => Me & My Uncle => TOO2 => NFA => GDTRFB => NFA2. What can I say, other than they're all top rate versions if you break them up and listen to them independently (but why, right?). Everything is stellar - the sound, the immaculate execution, the energy, and the symbiosis of the musicians in their craft. There aren't any naysayers in this audience, so there's nobody to convince; but even for the Dead, the transition between TOO and Me & My Uncle is so smooth and unheralded, that the uninitiated would swear it's a rehearsed move they've practiced no less than a dozen times. Really, don't miss it. NFA and GDTRFB is equally impressive, though I can't make the same argument about rehearsals:-) The Other One is much shorter than usual, and there's no Sugar Magnolia for the only show of the tour - almost as if to say, next time at least clear the lunch tables out of the cafeteria before inviting us to play (it was a 700 ticket party in the University cafeteria). Playing in the Band is better with Donna. Pigpen may actually be the star of this show. I get the impression his stage time on songs he didn't sing lead on was inconsistent throughout the tour, as there are long stretches during some shows when I don't hear him playing or singing harmony (or even shaking the maracas and tambarine). Not the case at Aarhus; he's all over everything, especially the Hammond. While he's never going to be mentioned in a conversation about the best keynoardists, greatest lead singers, or innovators of rap music, he's the goddam best utility player to grace a rock 'n roll band. His chops during this show augment the rhythm and melody in all of the right places, which is the true sign of a great band musician - knowing when to play. Long live Pig. He was and always will be, one of the Grateful Dead.
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    Day 3 / Europe '72 / April 11, 1972 I like how the liner notes compare Newcastle to playing on Mars. I look to this show for the fantastic Truckin' (nearly 20 minutes, longest of the tour, although 4/16 kind of breaks it up into two tracks and calls the rest Jam) => Drums => The Other One => Comes A Time. Only two Brokedowns on this tour and I love them both - this one is has this nice piano bit in the beginning that actually comes out louder (along with the crowd applause) on the Steppin' Out mix, but it's still nice; one nice "cool clear water well you can't ever tell" from Donna (sometimes you get two); I also look to this one for the set list of shorter rockers - Greatest Story, Beat It on Down, Jack Straw, Deal, Tennessee Jed, Big Railroad Blues, Brown-eyed Women, Ramble On Rose (ok maybe not a rocker, but one of my Jerry favs in '72, where this song LIVED), and shit what was the other one from Jerry....anyway, a little higher in hiss than some shows, and turn up Bobby for fuck's sake. Would have been funny if he unraveled the T-shirt after the fan got tossed, and it said MARRY ME MARK! mule_skinner - Glad you liked the post, true story. Was at my parent's house DJ'ing the poolside tunes about 10 years ago on the 4th of July, had just purchased it and thought Ladies & Gentlemen would be perfect for the occasion with all of my relatives. On comes Good Lovin' and Pigpen doing his "I'm a bidness man; What kind of bidness? Are you a refrigerator repair service man?; Why you got a refrigerator?; No, I was just asking" Funny right, except he went on to pimp him a girl so ugly, she was mistaken for a Jersey cow (what'd you want, you only had a dollar and quarter). Lesson learned.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Rbmunkin, while in some respects 1977 WAS the last great year for the Dead- chiefly in the reliability of their musicianship, according to what I've heard from later years- it certainly wasn't their last great year for many listeners in terms of many, many great later performances. To put my bias in context, my favorite Dead years are 1969 and 1972-'74, so I'm not an '80's deadhead, though I attended the bulk of my shows during the earlier part of that decade and love many of the shows from its first half.I have both the May 1977 box set and the July '78 one, and to my ears the 1978 one is substantially better. I say that because while the 1977 performances in that box are all reasonably strong, they're not always particularly exciting to me. The band, and Jerry in particular, strike me as being in a more predictable, professional mode at the shows in this earlier '77 box release (though I expect the new '77 box to be substantially better performances, based upon the bits I've heard). I find the improvisation more raw, energetic, and dynamic in the 1978 box, and to me that's what makes shows stand out. Also, the song selection is a bit more varied, which I appreciate. While 1978 may be weaker overall as a year (and I haven't heard most of either year), I find these performances to be better than much of what I've heard from '77. Similarly, according to what a listener likes, great boxes (if not great recordings) could be put together of performances from the early 80's or even the Spring/Summer 1985 tour, I believe. One slight drawback of the 1978 box is that the recordings have a bit less depth to the sound, but that goes with the territory of later 2-track soundboards. If you like the '78 sound, definitely get this box while it's still around! I think that they're all (and not just the Red Rocks shows) excellent performances and better ones than the Dave's Picks releases from '78 so far.
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Yup, 0ver 80% of the run sold in about a year; at this rate, the rest will probably sell in the next two to three years. Based upon what I've seen buying modern cd and lp releases, it's not unusual for a run to take a few years (and sometimes up to twice that time) to sell out, even for many popular releases. In that respect, wadeocu, yes, Rhino knows its customer base quite well. Nearly every other Dead limited edition/limited release has sold out relatively quickly (from a few days to several months), and even the slower ones, like the second Spring '90 box and the May '77 one, sold out within a few years or less. Believe it or not, Rhino's goal is probably not to make sure that these sell out in a heartbeat, but to sell the greatest number without multiple production runs or endless inventory. I for one am glad that people don't always have to rush to immediately buy one or have to otherwise search for it on ebay at inflated prices. Recently Rhino sold over $2 million dollars worth of the new box set (before the all-music release that followed) within three days, even with the first marked by technical difficulties- by any standard, that's pretty impressive nowadays for physical media.As a follow-up to my recent post below, finally got a chance to hear my Winterland 1977 box again (I have a huge listening backlog) and came away much more impressed by it than by the first May 1977 box, with the exception of the latter's 5/13 show, which is excellent and the best of them. I still do think, though, that overall the Summer 1978 box outranks the May '77 box in quality of shows.
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I agree Dschian on each of your points. I think it is noteworthy, however that this one is dragging on with 17% of the inventory still left after a year. I think they planned on this one moving faster and I don't blame them. I would have thought that 3 totally uncirculated betty boards and two classics with one only circulating in mono would have generated more buzz. I suspect Rhino and Co. thought the same and thus the 15k. It seems like each release gets core customer sales in the 10k range. That number represents those of us who are so pathetically obsessed that we buy everything no matter what. Then the remaining 5k in sales are the "investors" and occasional buyers. I think that dependable 10k in sales per release is pretty clearly indicated by the numbers set for the FW69 box, early DaPs etc. I think the DaP numbers have gone up only because of the demand created by the second hand market. I do find the hue and cry over limited editions a bit exasperating as I think I understand the considerations being made here and the need to limit stock on hand and warehousing. Really, if we would dependably buy 100k per release they would gladly print it; I'm sure of it. We cant blame the manufacturer for trying to avoid inventory warehousing expenses. This release is a clear indication to me that they have the number set just about right to accomplish their goal of printing and moving releases on a continual release schedule.
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You all have good guesses, as good as mine, which is. The real reason this is still available is the meltdown of Music Today shortly after the release, the website going to comments only mode for months until the Dave's subscription was announced, when NOTHING was available for purchase, and the still cryptic hint above that at some point it will be available digitally "on release day". Its very likely there are 2000 people that would have bought the box if it was the only option, but waited for the digital version instead. Add to that some short term memory loss and short attention spans and you have over 2000 copies left of this box set which I like much better than the Spring 77 box. I love this artwork and would have spent lots of dead presidents on T shirts, posters, and other schwag if offered. I also feel many people pay attention to their browsers and for months this site has been unsafe and I have to click through 2 browser warnings just to log in that say the site is bad for my internet security. NO where else on the internet do i have to click the 2nd "Are you Sure?" dialog box. What's up with that, someone saving IT money by waiting for a new interface, maybe ROAR as the core in the fall? Meanwhile the site limps along on, unsecured until the next explosion when Dave's 22 goes on sale shortly before May 77 part 1 ships and people find out if they got a limited edition or music only version. I bet that will be fun times on the board ;)
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Why has this not sold out, its fantastic. Yes.. music today and the constant Russian Hackers is a big part of the reason, the other part is beyond an initial rollout strategy, they have no involvement. For the longest time this thread faded was not even prevalent from the home page of dead.net. I'm not complaining, I have mine and love it.. I just come to this thread from time to time and think wtf?
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This page for a while was filled with hackers posting away. when i translated some of it through google before it was cleaned up, it was polish slang for "i like this place" and "these people are funny". This set rocks BIGLY, you should consider yourselves lucky its still available for cost and still numbered editions. If you don't have it yet, it's worth the money and the artwork is fantastic, in the style of a graphic novel. Compared to other recent boxes that feature Normanized versions of Betty's that have been in circulation for 30 years, This July 78 box has 4 unreleased Betty's, well 3 and a Stereo upgrade from the mono that circulated. This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated. Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy? In any event if you haven't got it yet, you really should grab this box before it sells out and it becomes speculative on ebay, if just for the box and artwork.
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"This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated.Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy?" This is very insightful indeed. I can see no other explanation for the disparity.
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I can only answer for myself, and it's very simple; DiP 18 and, if i felt I needed any more than that, Red Rocks is available separately. on a separate note; does anyone know, is Betty getting her dues; I and several others have asked, and I haven't seen any kind of response at all. If not, surely a Pledge page would be good; or is there already one up? Anyone know?
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Here's the show before the box for some added motivation for giving the box a 2nd thought while it's still available. Listen to Jerry's FAT tone on the Estimated Eyes and Ken Babbs adds some Prankster Wierdness. Grateful Dead Live at Autzen Stadium, U. of Oregon on 1978-06-25 Promised Land, They Love Each Other, Me & My Uncle, Big River, Candyman, Passenger, Peggy-O, Minglewood Blues Samson & Delilah, Friend Of The Devil, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums*-> Not Fade Away-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> Around & Around, E: U.S. Blues *W Ken Babbs https://archive.org/details/gd1978-06-25.sbd.130649.MrBill.flac16
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Hmmm something GD related... One of the few 1977 shows that doesn't circulate as a SBD and might be one of the few still missing SBDs from the Vault. Grateful Dead Live at Robertson Gym, UC Santa Barbara on 1977-02-27 Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, Ramble On Rose, Estimated Prophet, Peggy-O, Good Lovin', Mississippi Half Step, The Music Never Stopped, Scarlet Begonias Samson & Delilah, Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Drums-> Terrapin Station-> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia, E: Johnny B. Goode https://archive.org/details/gd77-02-27.bertrando.vernon.10378.sbeok.shnf Taped by Rob Bertrando, who if we made people Saints in the hobby would be one.
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Looking for the stuff some record shops got for the Red Rocks release 7.8.78 Rhino and Warner Bros had the same stuff. I got the wristband from local record shop when it came out , but he didn't have the shirt and water bottle available Help Rhino / Warner Bros !!! Heck I will even pay for it and the shipping cost ! Add on tax and let's call it a deal Also missed out on the grab bag my local record shop had for Cornell release party on Cinco de Mayo. There was about 12 grab bags and around 20 people even though about half were toddlers Lol with parents that won. I wanted to buy Cornell LP to get free print like marketing sign said but apparently Rhino kept the vinyl stock , so it wasn't even possible. I bought the big box set , so I didn't really need the cd version of Stand Alone Cornell show. How do I get a print ?
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I'm confused as to why this box hasn't sold out at the increasingly rapid rate of comparable releases here. It's an amazing set. I love the song lists, the packaging and artwork are through the roof awesome. Anyway, this is a fantastic set and the box, book and slip covers are treasures. As I live in Denver and bask in the luxury of downing stellar margs at the Morrison Inn prior to annual Red Rocks invitations, I am over the moon with this. Thank you.
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A few reasons this didn't sell out: 1) Even the original May 1977 took 8 months, and 1978 does not have the reputation of 1977. Definitely a factor. 2) The 7/8 standalone release, I think, KILLED sales for this. There is a percentage of casual fans out there, and they reached for the rumored best show of the lot, for much less money 3) The songs are repeats. There are oodles of versions of these songs from roughly the same period, so appeal is limited somewhat to the hardcore fans.
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Finally picked up this set on eBay for 125.00 brand new. I have been on the fence on this set for a while. Now I'm really looking forward to it. Kind of glad I skipped the new release though. Sounds like a disaster, and faulty product.
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Hey this is that new cryptolock that's taking the world by storm.don't click on the links. Beware of the MALWARE.
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Good guesses from KeithFan2112 on why not sold out. I'll add a couple in having purchased the box set: 1) I think Rhino is amassing a reputation for poor quality control. Like others, I have a disc that skipped. I followed the instructions on how to return it. About 6 weeks later, haven't heard a word on replacing it. 2) Perhaps by 1970's standards, recording quality is great. However, against today's standards for live CDs, it's not all that great. 3) Donna's vocals are grating for most of the materials she sings on. Would have been preferable to limit her singing to material that works for her limited range.
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No questions about it; this set put the "everybody already has it" issue for sales potential to rest! Of course the power that is already new that a long time ago. Eskimos will always want their ice and the rest of the world outside of that hardcore 10,000 or so folks will just get the highlights/legends. Remember the Fillmore 69 release? There was a reason it was limited to 10,000. They just didn't account for the fact that those shows have legendary appeal!
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...after a lot of chatter on these boards about this one still being available, and after seeing how gorgeous the GSTL box set is, I decided to pull the trigger before this one went the way of the dodo, (or Fillmore 69.) I suppose I hesitated for the same reasons KF and HaGizMo mentioned. Also, I feel like 78 often leaves a lot to be desired. The two DaP from 78 are both in my personal bottom five, (though I recently ordered DiP 18, and I have heard nothing but good things about that release.) All of that being said, this box is GORGEOUS! and unlike the GSTL, it is very sturdy. As many have mentioned, this is simply some of the best artwork the band has put out in a long time! The book has some good pictures, though the essay doesn't really have a lot to say (It seems N. Meriweather had to come to grips with his own ambivalent feelings towards 78 to write it...) But this artwork!.... I am on disc 2 of the Arrowhead show, and aside from a brief skip in Bertha (on the opening song of the box! C'mon!!!) this is sounding really great. I have known 7/8 for some time now, but I am excited to get through the rest of these shows and check out the upgraded sound. (I'll just be sure to skip a couple Werewolves... ouch!) Happy Weekend, DeadLand! Peace
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I understand about 1978 but I'm not of the opinion that nothing good came out of 1978. I see it as a gateway year. Having missed out on the May 1977 Box, this one is actually the first physical box I purchased and I was really pleased when it arrived. The design is beautiful, and the sound....a lot more refined than what I had been listening to for the past umpteen years. I don't think it's a mistake at all to own it. While some people love the Red Rocks, I really enjoy the St. Paul show. It sparkles in my opinion, and the Stella Blue speaks to me deeply. Happy listening.
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I just logged on to say how wonderful this box set is, and you already did it for me :) I didn't intend to say that nothing good came out of 78... this box is a perfect example, and it is A BEAUTIFUL BOX SET!!!! Probably the most impressive looking I have seen! Peace, and 78 LOVE all around :) (Still hate Bobby's slide practice, on-stage...)
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... THIS is what kills 78 for me. He is terrible at slide guitar. Sugaree? EDIT: He got better, but I usually don't like his slide playing... he's such a good guitar player, it hurts to hear him F' it up with that damn slide...
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Blame it on Lowell George.The thing about Bob's slide playing that always got me was after all that practice every show for 17 years, he never seemed to get any better at it ;) Bob's new toy aside, this is still a great box set, great artwork, and the band seems to be having a great time. Listen to the growls in Werewolves and try not to laugh along with Donna as Bobby goes out of his way to bait her. These are fun shows of a band in transition while they were recording Shakedown St. and getting ready for the trip to Egypt.
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Otis I wasn't insinuating it was you saying nothing good came out of 78, but I do hear a lot of flak about 78 shows around the 'hood. The Dead were peaks and valleys throughout their 30 years which is to be expected by such creative human beings. Not every show can be 5/25/77 or 8/27/72, which makes me love and respect the band even more. There is so much joy in the experimentation and just the act of being in the moment which makes them so freaking appealing. Listen deeply, listen freely, listen often. I'm looking forward to the documentary film release on Thursday. I'm going to be at the Jacob Burns Film Center in Pleasantville.
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I love how Bob "practiced" playing slide live on stage. In standard tuning... slide is hard as hell. Not everyone can be Joe Walsh or Duane Allman. John Mayer has said that Bob is fearless, and I admire it. He gives it a good shot, but when he misses the mark or flubs a lyric or two it just rolls like water off a duck's back. We should all be so stoic in failure. Love, love the 1978 set. The artwork is the best ever. Only critique drums and bass a bit woofy/boomy but everything can't be just exactly perfect all the time.
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This is a great show that is mixing quite well with the mood I have going right now. These shows have wonderful energy. Nothing is ever going to come close to the feeling of outdoor Dead at Red Rocks. Cool breezes under the stars in a pristine-sounding natural amphitheater. The sound bounces off those rocks in a way to make the music surround you. All captured beautifully on this recording and production.I was lucky to have made a few pilgrimages to this special place during the 80s. Many of the details are fuzzy, or invented, or altered somehow. But there are a number of clear ones that stand out, the first being Chief Hosa campground, hitching a ride there from the show with a motorcycle dude for the rush of it, and drinking from a jug of electric kool-aid (or something that resembled kool-aid). I also listened to Springfield 5/11/78 last night. I might venture to say one of the greatest Fire on the Mountains I've heard, or at least in a while. And that goofy Dancin' in the Street..... Also 1978 brought us Egypt stories and Hamza El-Din, new rhythms, and Jerry pig tails.
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"Not every show can be 5/25/77 or 8/27/72, which makes me love and respect the band even more." Very well said, and I totally agree. (Also, I love that you name drop 5/25 in that comment :) I also agree with LedDead's point that slide is hard as hell, and that Bobby deserves respect for being so fearless. I will always have MAD respect for Bobby - - but KayakGuy also has a good point that he never really got any better at it, and 78 seems to suffer the most from it. That slide work on Sugaree just makes my soul sad... I am steadily working my way through July 78 and mixing it up with DaP 22 and GSTL - - It's a fun mix of different era Dead. (Oh, I've been throwing some of the 82 Greek shows in for good measure - Lordy, there is some tremendous playing there too!) So far, my favorite 78 discs are Arrowhead disc 2, St. Paul disc 1, and disc 2 of the second Red Rocks show. All of them are worthy shows, and I am very happy to have this set. Hope everyone has a grand week! Just found out my wife was offered a job as a principal of a K-8 school here in the city! Down side, I will be seeing a lot less of her :( Up side, I usually have to turn off the music when she gets home, so more listening for me :) Peace
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Was this show ever offered up digitally or do they have to sell out the boxset first? anybody know? Thx
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This 78 set is just a step over the wild edge from 77 and its a much better mix - Jerry's guitar isn't hidden underneath drums, bass and piano. The Peggy-Os are all great too. Downside is all those Rhythm Devils tracks.
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I agree, get it now if you still can. This is one of the best boxes ever. I'm in my second round of listening to the box, half way through. I call this the Muscular dead. Jerry is playing with a little louder and a little tougher. The rest of the band is top notch. You can hear Kieth really well. Perhaps the drums are a little loud. I like this better than 77 boxes, although they are a good listen too. I just like the raw energy of this 78 box.
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Love this box set. Can only imagine why it has not sold out. The sound is so good and the shows are great. Set list with the exception of 7-8 2nd set are not all that unusual and the set is one of the best from '78. 7-8 1st set is fairly average and really a bit uneventful. Jerry breaks a string apparently on the 7-7 FOTM, preventing that version from being incredible. Overall still a great release. The overall packaging is far superior to the most previous May '77. I love the '78 sound it is loud and robust and my Klipsch speakers are just made for this stuff. Anyone looking to upgrade your amps? Consider Odyssey custom Khartago extreme plus. These mono blocks are relatively affordable and are crystal clear balanced power houses.
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If you're on the fence about whether to get this one let me help you out a bit. This box is smoking. On fire rock and roll from the good ol Gratefule Dead. 7-1-78, 7-7-78 and 7-8-78 are on fire. Omaha is a great show that hasn't been heard before this box. St. Paul has its moments. Get it!
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If you're on the fence, pick this one up. As mentioned, the artwork is fantastic, and probably the best artwork for a release, especially a box. Get Shown the Light is a little overwrought, and flimsy for something that you would reach for a lot. This set, on the other hand, is nicely housed and sits on my shelf proudly displayed, where GSTL sits in its shipping box closed up, and 30 Trips sits in my closet in its box (perhaps I need a better organized display in the music room). The thematic covers are top notch artwork. I'm not a comic book guy, liked them some when I was a pubescent, but the comic stylings married to the Dead themes and venues is fantastic. The best part may be the booklet cover being a nod to the rained out Summerfest show. The music is really good, too. Like many have said, '78 isn't really my year, but I still ordered fairly close to the day it went onsale, thinking it would be a madhouse, which I did for May '77 as well, where I was likewise shocked at it taking over a year to sell out. Not sure Bob's slide is the killer for me for '78, but it doesn't help. The setlists are fairly varied, and my biggest problem with '69-74 is no Terrapin, no Scarlet> Fire, etc. Conversely, '77-78 lack Dark Star, 20 min Playings, and Other Ones that extend past the 10-15 min mark. But what is played in this set is very good stuff. Not as tight as May '77, not as exploratory as '72-74, '78 is a beast of its own, with fiery guitar work being the primary sonic signature. The Jack Straws, Music Never Stopped, and Wharf Rats have a great intensity. 7/1 is the revelation of the box to me. I prefer it to the legendary 7/8. 7/8 is the show I've listened to least in the box, less than 7/3. Hard to believe more fans haven't snagged these, especially given they were the first fruits of the return of the Bettys, and brought out 3 UNCIRCULATED tapes. 130 bucks plus shipping is a really good deal, and it has the best packaging and artwork of any box set I own (I don't have the Steam Trunk) as well as some really good Dead.
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My brain can't understand why this box hasn't sold out when others vanish in hours. This is really god sh*t. I need to consume it by the gram, it's that potent.
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Get 'em while they're hot.
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icecrmcnkd, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Or in this case, you can lead a Head to the Promised Land, but...you get the picture.
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1984What you waiting for? Time to get it now Time to let it in your life. (apologies to Randy California)
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