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    Blair’s Golden Road Blog — IWAAJ, Or Was It?

    “It Was All About Jerry.” If you’ve prowled Deadnet Central or other Grateful Dead message boards/sites through the years, chances are you’ve encountered “IWAAJ.” During what has become known in Dead Head circles as “The Days Between” (Garcia’s August 1st birthday through the day of his death, August 9th), I seem to see that abbreviation pop up in discussions even more, as folks weigh in and ponder Jerry’s passing and his impact, etc. But year-round, fans drop “IWAAJ” into online conversations in a variety of situations, perhaps most often as final punctuation in discussions about the relative merits of post-Garcia bands—as if that abbreviation, in and of itself, explains why RatDog or Furthur or any other group doesn’t possess that fully magical Grateful Dead X-factor; i.e. because Jerry is not part of it.

    Well, duh! There’s no question that Garcia was the dominant creative force in the Grateful Dead. As an improvising guitarist without peer, passionate singer, chief songwriter, de facto spokesman for the group and possessor of an incredible mind and wit, Jerry left shoes impossible to fill. He is the major reason I spent 25 years and untold treasure going to see him at every opportunity, and why I have scribbled more than a million words (literally) about his exploits. I echo the sentiment of the bumper sticker I see occasionally: “I MISS JERRY EVERY DAY.”

    But I don’t believe IWAAJ. One song into my first Grateful Dead show back in 1970, it was abundantly clear that there was a very special chemistry going on within the band and that each player was an integral and original part of the group’s overall sound. I had never heard another bass player like Phil Lesh, nor a so-called “rhythm guitarist” like Bob Weir. What the drummers were doing behind them was unlike the standard rock rhythms most bands trotted out. It was deeper and more complex. As I saw the band more often (13 times in those first two years), my appreciation of the uniqueness of each of the players and his contributions to the overall gestalt grew exponentially. And while that was happening, I was also learning that the Grateful Dead’s following was an audience unlike any other in music and that the atmosphere the band and crowd created together was its own wonderful thing. As the years went by, the specialness of the Dead audience (compared with other bands’ fans) and its bond with the band became even more apparent.

    One reason Dead Heads are so obsessed about sound is because it was not AAJ. I clearly recall griping after some shows (especially at Winterland) that the band played great but I couldn’t really hear Phil as well as I’d like, or noting that Healy had Weir turned down way too low at many shows in the early ’80s. (Alas, the tapes confirm that assessment.) Sit on the extreme right or left of a hall during the later Healy era and you risked either being deafened by Brent or losing him for the most part. I always wanted to hear every instrument clearly and balanced, not just Jerry, and I certainly wasn’t alone in that sentiment.

    When other players in the band had “off” nights, a spectacular night by Jerry helped but usually could not completely elevate a show to true greatness — all parts had to be in sync and moving smoothly for that to happen. Conversely, having everyone in the band playing really well except Jerry — as happened so often during the more disturbing portions of 1994 and 1995 — didn’t really do it, either. But I give the guys major points for heroically trying not to let his diminished capacity drag the music completely down. At a lot of those shows, it was AAEE — “All About Everyone Else.”

    So, now we’re 16 years into the post-Garcia era, and there are still many folks who have no interest in hearing the ex-Dead members playing together, or they’ve checked it out and been disappointed (by its lack of Jerry-ness!). My feeling, though, is that so much of the Grateful Dead’s essence and Garcia’s spirit is ingrained in each of the surviving players, and within the songs themselves, that it isn’t at all hard for me to accept those players in new combinations reinterpreting this music I love, sometimes in radical ways. In the early days after Jerry died, it was the original Missing Man Formation lineup of Vince Welnick, Steve Kimock, Bobby Vega and Prairie Prince that first showed me I could feel that Grateful Dead spark again—that it didn’t take Jerry being there to get me off. So I’ve always tried to be open to whatever new lineups of players have come down the pike investigating and exploring the Dead’s musically egalitarian methodology (everyone is important!) and seemingly boundless repertoire. (It’s too bad it took Jerry’s death for us to hear everything from “The Eleven” to “Viola Lee Blues” to “The Golden Road” to “Mountains of the Moon” splendidly reinvented for modern times.)

    All of the guys in the band are still playing fantastically well and seem to be dedicated to constantly reinvigorating the Dead canon. I’ve left shows by The Other Ones, The Dead, the Mickey Hart Band, Phil Lesh & Friends, RatDog, Furthur and other Dead-connected groups positively glowing, and that’s all the proof I need to believe that great as he was, and as much as I loved him, it was not AAJ — for me. And the crowds by and large remain a source of joy and inspiration, as well.

    God, I miss Garcia! But I’m so happy that those he left behind didn’t just fold up the tent, close shop—whatever the appropriate metaphor is—and leave their shared history behind. The evolution continues, without Jerry, and it’s still putting smiles on faces and offering, to quote a recent Phil-Hunter tune, an invitation to the dance.

    “Uncle John’s Band” asked, “Will you come with me? Won’t you come with me?” Yup, I will! Wherever it goes.

    How ’bout you?

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    Anonymous (not verified)
    13 years 3 months ago
    my Dad's bigger than your Dad.
    rkeshavan: That was an interesting second post; reading it i think i can safely say that we agree on most things. Rather more dubious was your remarks "seeing some of the comments, I see some people think they're Deader than Thou and can define what others feel or not feel because of some internet statements they make." and "IWAAJ doesn't mean because, you have decided to take a definition about what I am saying and ignore a lot of the rest that I've written about, that you are "Deader than me" and I haven't experienced the magic." You've obviously completely misunderstood what i wrote; at no point did i say or even imply a "Deader Than Thou" attitude. In fact, i think you just made that up in order prove some unrelated point of your own. What happened, my comments bring out the worst in ya did they? (Interesting that you felt you had to prove how equally Dead you were by letting us all know about the big 100). I could care less about how may shows you've seen; matters not one jot. But thanks for being concerned about it though. Many Deadheads never got a chance to see Jerry and i'm sure that some of them were touched on a much deeper level than a dude who traveled for 10 years, clocking 200 shows and getting wasted all the time. It is not patronising or displaying any snobby attitude to call the waves of people who descended in the '90's and maybe earlier, who only came to get trashed, showing complete disregard for the people around them. Witness Bobby in the Festival Express film getting agitated at the fools who gatecrashed and started attacking policemen. Fuck them. My idiot comment was aimed at the silly people who repeatedly bang on about Jerry as some kinda God figure; who get hysterical and break down in floods of tears at the mention of his name and take the "It Was All About Jerry" mantra seriously. As i wrote, i did not know Jerry personally but reading his views and from interviews from Bob, he was appalled at the idea. Now Jerry probably wouldn't have called someone these people idiots (even when at his most cantankerous and displaying his known lack of patience! Phil probably woulda though!) I think it's pretty safe to say that that eyebrow of his woulda raised up, and a cheeky wry grin would have appeared to force back the vomit. As i said, if someone's main focus was Jerry, if it was him that really gets you off when listening to the Dead, his playing and singing that gets you juiced, that's wonderful. Personally, being a drummer, i love Bill & Mickey; not all i concentrate on of course but my ears hover in their direction and their interplay with the other members a lot of the time. But if i said the Grateful Dead - "It's All About The Drummers" i would be an idiot. And the same with Jerry. Factually correct methinks. Many others here have said the same thing; bolo wrote a great piece that pretty much summed it up. Loving someone dearly and more prominently is not the same as having everything revolve around them. The comment that Phil made about the importance of Jerry could easily have been reciprocated. I doubt Jerry would have had the inclination to continue had Phil died earlier on. But anyway, the majority here thankfully are mentioning the music, the writers and fans as making it so special. I completely agree. I realise this is The Days Between and it hurts me too. They'll never be another like him but let's not be silly about it. We still have the music and the memories and no one can take that away from us. Right, i'm off to break out a Dead show; got me a taste for some 10/30/73 Kiel Auditorium action! I'll skip the Garcia tracks though.........................!
  • cosmicbadger
    13 years 3 months ago
    the band was cooking
    continuing the food analogies...... I take some fresh eggs, unpasteurised cream from the local farm, a dab of unsalted butter, some freshly ground Kampot black pepper, some fleurs du sel, freshly cut chives and parsley from the garden, add a pinch of pimenton, heat the pan and make a damn fine omelette. All those ingredients meld together perfectly. Deeelicious. Then I add some grated black truffle and transform a damn fine omelette to an omelette from heaven. So lovely that after each mouthful I have to stop and wonder at its delights. The truffle enhances each ingredient of the omelette and add its own unique, rich yet subtle flavours. Now for sure it would not be a heavenly truffle omelette without the chemistry of all those top quality eggs and herbs and stuff, but in the end it’s the truffle that makes the difference. Jerry is the truffle in my Grateful Dead omelette. You can work out for yourselves who the other ingredients are , but maybe Pigpen should be the black pepper. Feeling hungry?
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    UncleWaldo
    13 years 3 months ago
    The Proof is in the Pudding
    Gotta say, I'm sitting here listening to some '77 JGB and just lovin' it. I do listen to Garcia everyday of my life; be it in the good ole Grateful Dead, the JGB, Legion of Mary, Saunders/Garcia, Grateful Dawg. For me, I find enough variety in the man's music to satisfy my given tastes on any morning. I try to stay ahead of the curve of the music I've downloaded by listening to it before I forget its there. There's something in every show that gets me off (sometimes twice). I strongly agree that both Hunter and Barlow were influential contributors in this long strange trip. I'm enjoying my Nine Days of Jerry 2011 by celebrating the man's life and music.I've seen The Dead, the O1's, Furthur, PLF (the Q), Ratdog; and while I enjoy the live music it is not something I play in the privacy of my own home. I've tried repeat listenings but they lack the GARCIA factor. "I'll take a simple C to G and feel brand new about it!" "someday he'll be gone" So, if logic holds true...
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“It Was All About Jerry.” If you’ve prowled Deadnet Central or other Grateful Dead message boards/sites through the years, chances are you’ve encountered “IWAAJ.” During what has become known in Dead Head circles as “The Days Between” (Garcia’s August 1st birthday through the day of his death, August 9th), I seem to see that abbreviation pop up in discussions even more, as folks weigh in and ponder Jerry’s passing and his impact, etc. But year-round, fans drop “IWAAJ” into online conversations in a variety of situations, perhaps most often as final punctuation in discussions about the relative merits of post-Garcia bands—as if that abbreviation, in and of itself, explains why RatDog or Furthur or any other group doesn’t possess that fully magical Grateful Dead X-factor; i.e. because Jerry is not part of it.

Well, duh! There’s no question that Garcia was the dominant creative force in the Grateful Dead. As an improvising guitarist without peer, passionate singer, chief songwriter, de facto spokesman for the group and possessor of an incredible mind and wit, Jerry left shoes impossible to fill. He is the major reason I spent 25 years and untold treasure going to see him at every opportunity, and why I have scribbled more than a million words (literally) about his exploits. I echo the sentiment of the bumper sticker I see occasionally: “I MISS JERRY EVERY DAY.”

But I don’t believe IWAAJ. One song into my first Grateful Dead show back in 1970, it was abundantly clear that there was a very special chemistry going on within the band and that each player was an integral and original part of the group’s overall sound. I had never heard another bass player like Phil Lesh, nor a so-called “rhythm guitarist” like Bob Weir. What the drummers were doing behind them was unlike the standard rock rhythms most bands trotted out. It was deeper and more complex. As I saw the band more often (13 times in those first two years), my appreciation of the uniqueness of each of the players and his contributions to the overall gestalt grew exponentially. And while that was happening, I was also learning that the Grateful Dead’s following was an audience unlike any other in music and that the atmosphere the band and crowd created together was its own wonderful thing. As the years went by, the specialness of the Dead audience (compared with other bands’ fans) and its bond with the band became even more apparent.

One reason Dead Heads are so obsessed about sound is because it was not AAJ. I clearly recall griping after some shows (especially at Winterland) that the band played great but I couldn’t really hear Phil as well as I’d like, or noting that Healy had Weir turned down way too low at many shows in the early ’80s. (Alas, the tapes confirm that assessment.) Sit on the extreme right or left of a hall during the later Healy era and you risked either being deafened by Brent or losing him for the most part. I always wanted to hear every instrument clearly and balanced, not just Jerry, and I certainly wasn’t alone in that sentiment.

When other players in the band had “off” nights, a spectacular night by Jerry helped but usually could not completely elevate a show to true greatness — all parts had to be in sync and moving smoothly for that to happen. Conversely, having everyone in the band playing really well except Jerry — as happened so often during the more disturbing portions of 1994 and 1995 — didn’t really do it, either. But I give the guys major points for heroically trying not to let his diminished capacity drag the music completely down. At a lot of those shows, it was AAEE — “All About Everyone Else.”

So, now we’re 16 years into the post-Garcia era, and there are still many folks who have no interest in hearing the ex-Dead members playing together, or they’ve checked it out and been disappointed (by its lack of Jerry-ness!). My feeling, though, is that so much of the Grateful Dead’s essence and Garcia’s spirit is ingrained in each of the surviving players, and within the songs themselves, that it isn’t at all hard for me to accept those players in new combinations reinterpreting this music I love, sometimes in radical ways. In the early days after Jerry died, it was the original Missing Man Formation lineup of Vince Welnick, Steve Kimock, Bobby Vega and Prairie Prince that first showed me I could feel that Grateful Dead spark again—that it didn’t take Jerry being there to get me off. So I’ve always tried to be open to whatever new lineups of players have come down the pike investigating and exploring the Dead’s musically egalitarian methodology (everyone is important!) and seemingly boundless repertoire. (It’s too bad it took Jerry’s death for us to hear everything from “The Eleven” to “Viola Lee Blues” to “The Golden Road” to “Mountains of the Moon” splendidly reinvented for modern times.)

All of the guys in the band are still playing fantastically well and seem to be dedicated to constantly reinvigorating the Dead canon. I’ve left shows by The Other Ones, The Dead, the Mickey Hart Band, Phil Lesh & Friends, RatDog, Furthur and other Dead-connected groups positively glowing, and that’s all the proof I need to believe that great as he was, and as much as I loved him, it was not AAJ — for me. And the crowds by and large remain a source of joy and inspiration, as well.

God, I miss Garcia! But I’m so happy that those he left behind didn’t just fold up the tent, close shop—whatever the appropriate metaphor is—and leave their shared history behind. The evolution continues, without Jerry, and it’s still putting smiles on faces and offering, to quote a recent Phil-Hunter tune, an invitation to the dance.

“Uncle John’s Band” asked, “Will you come with me? Won’t you come with me?” Yup, I will! Wherever it goes.

How ’bout you?

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“It Was All About Jerry.” If you’ve prowled Deadnet Central or other Grateful Dead message boards/sites through the years, chances are you’ve encountered “IWAAJ.” During what has become known in Dead Head circles as “The Days Between” (Garcia’s August 1st birthday through the day of his death, August 9th), I seem to see that abbreviation pop up in discussions even more, as folks weigh in and ponder Jerry’s passing and his impact, etc. But year-round, fans drop “IWAAJ” into online conversations in a variety of situations, perhaps most often as final punctuation in discussions about the relative merits of post-Garcia bands—as if that abbreviation, in and of itself, explains why RatDog or Furthur or any other group doesn’t possess that fully magical Grateful Dead X-factor; i.e. because Jerry is not part of it.

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Roaring "Help on the Way" out of the box-amazing "Stella Blue" and "Scarlett/Fire" Jerry looking frail but sounding and playing to a very high standard. Turned out to be my last show. Now go run and see.
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sorry Blair and the rest of you, I am a firm believer that it was all about Jer, if it wasn't, there would still be a "Grateful Dead", but there's not. Seen all of the post Jerry lineups, good but not the experience that I am looking for, there is nowhere in any of these bands where the music plays the band. Jerry brought that. To deny this is, in my opinion, is disrespectful to the greatest guitar player that ever lived. No other member of this band, alone, could do what Jer did. Yes, I will agree that on certain nights, the Band was what it was all about, but only when Jerry wasn't on, when he was on, get out of the way cause I'm gonna steamroll over the rest of you and just try to keep up, many a times I have heard Phil or Bobby try and steer Jerry into another direction only to have him, some times nice, some times not, continue on his beautiful thought that only he could turn into sound. In my own mind, I like to think that the rest of the band was the greatest back up band in the world, and without Jerry, there was no direction, no leader, no Captain Trips. So, go ahead, carve this thought up but I will never be convinced that it was not all about Jerry, just listen to the music play.
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Listened to a bunch of GD last night, and came to the conclusion, that, yes indeed, IWAAJ. The jury came back with that verdict, in fact. Case closed!
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It starts with Garcia but thankfully it doesn't end there.Just keep truckin' on.....and on.
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Hey All, Don't have much to add to this.I have been the King of the Castle around here for the last 48 hrs.and I have got the old Marantz tube amp pretty hot with a bunch of GD too.We can all agree that at one place or another,say deep in the 2nd set(a certain Stella Blue comes to mind) we all stood together in the dark with stage lights filtered as Garcia was doing his trip. And in that moment ,we all agreed that IWAAJ.Remember that? shwack in nh
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I lived in Iowa for a total of 16 years. I have many friends who lived and still live in Utah , who went to many shows in thewest coast . Andone of them told me i think later in 1995 , that the Scarlet B - Fire on the mtn in Oakland on Feb 24 was the best he d ever see or heard . And hed been to like 50 + shows So those types of comments give you an accurate idea about certain times and momments , and when in relation to this band can clear things up totally if not completely ....... I also have friends who went to some of the Charlotte shows in spring . And can account that they were lively ....... * Lets be frank , this band given the day or year could make an arena or stadium shake their asses all night long . That was Jerry , capable of doing the impossible - a warrior ....... Peace I know Phil , Bob and co . know they were all evenly or more important than Jerry . As Blair said , in this band Everyone was key and important . ** In the Miles Davis quintet - to mention another quite noteworthly example - in the 1960 s , Neither musician was more or less than any of the others . Be it Miles , Tony Williams , Herbie Hancock . Wayne Shorter or Ron Carter . No one s input was more than the rest Although Ron Carter took a while to become a powerful bass player ; and a giant he was when he came into form .
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There is probably some cosmic message in the fact that this came up as the result of my searching for something else entirely on the net, coming across an awfully familiar-sounding Jerry quote and deciding to track it down, and yup, it was mine, as in, he said it to me. (Let's just say that Signpost and some of Blair and David's interviews in particular are so ingrained on my brain that I know them better than my own, so at my advanced age I take nothing for granted, I look it up.) But while it would be grossly unfair to take this remark out of context as Jer's oracular pronouncement on the IWAAJ issue, as Jerry Day unfolds across the Bay I have to grin at the timing just the same:  Well, a lot of it is because it is us, it's not me. For me it's easier to believe a group than it is a person. It takes the weight off that one person, you know what I mean? That's part of it, I think. That's certainly one of the things that makes the Grateful Dead interesting, from my point of view, is that it's a group of people. And the dynamics of the group part is the part that I trust. For me that's real helpful. (interview transcript is here)
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Some hot guitar players get so much from or become so joined to "group" identity. And some don't. Without the Dead, Jerry's music career could have turned out fabulously well, who knows he could have been even more identified with Hunter as a duo. But I'm thinking he would have been a mix of Mike Bloomfield, John Cippollina, Harvey Mandel and Glenn Phillips -- highly personal style, astounding talent, adoring if limited audience, crystal ear, and tragic flair for bad choices.
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With all due respect, unkle sam, I would like to offer that some, including me, would conversely consider the "IWAAJ" mantra disrespectful to the greatest rock n' roll band to ever roam the Earth (o.k., the Western hemisphere and parts of North Africa/Southwest Asia).
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To say it was AAJ is like loving one of you children more than the others. The GD was a family and to show more love to one particuler member defeats the essence of the meaning of family. Sure, perhaps Uncle Jerry levitated a little higher than the others.(pun intended) However, every member did their part and brought something unique and special to the table. This is called synergy. And as a previous poster noted dont forget about Hunter and other lyric writers who added another layer of depth.
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all about Jerry. It just happened that we were fortunate enough to be pulled into his orbit and hit by his coronal mass ejections in we's craniums. That includes the band. He played us all very well. Like a fine tuned cosmic banjo.
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Mary Thanks for posting that really good interview from late 1987 . I got through the 1 st page ,and saw its 4 pages long !!! I ll finish reading tomorrow probably In the 1st section you and Jerry really get into some detail on his takes on , for example how him and R Hunter would like or not like certain songs or what each one wanted it - the song - to be . That was really nice . Thanks for sharing Jaime Andrés G * To not want to leave anything out , the RK user in the beginning of this post , where he gives his idea as to what the IWAAJ meant to him is really worth reading . Thanks much Blair .......
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> [Jerry] played us all very well. Like a fine tuned cosmic banjo. That's really quite beautiful, uponscrutiny. Thank you for letting me see it that way.
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My pleasure and thanks for the compliment
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lovely image, and so true! No problem, Jaime, and yeah, it's essentially the raw transcript because I figure many people will find that worth the slog; I could have posted a much tighter edit, but you lose interesting little things that way.
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That's a great quote from Jerry, MaryE. It's a similar dynamic in any kind of jazzy ensemble playing. Take the John Coltrane quartet on Love Supreme. Coltrane drives the train, but the destination and scenery would not be as beautiful without McCoy Tyner, Elvin Jones and Jimmy Garrison. The same with the Miles Davis sextet on Milestones. Miles is the leader, but he also has Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, Red Garland, Philly Joe Jones and Paul Chambers to help him paint the musical picture. Like a great jazz ensemble, the Grateful Dead was not about one person. As Bolo24 mentioned, it was a group effort. In a live concert setting, not only does it take a group of highly connected people to uncover and expose the music, but it can't be elevated if the audience isn't prepared to receive it. It takes a great cycle of energy between the band and their family on and off stage and in the audience to get to the omega state -- the ecstatic group oneness that lifts everyone higher. As much as Jerry meant to the music, I don't think it was all about Jerry. Even though I didn't know Jerry, the music he helped create has touched me deeply and I still miss him every day.
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It was AAJ, with all due respect to the other members of the band. The Grateful Dead never could have existed without Jerry, period. That doesn't mean that the other members didn't make significant contributions and have all carried on heroically since his demise, but let's face it, take him out of the band and what do you have? A band that never would have been. I can give you a specific example of why I believe it was all about Jerry, and you can all check it for yourselves; in fact, I'd like to know what people think of this because this is a controversial point of view but one that I think should be aired. If any of you have the book " A Long Strange Trip," by Dennis McNally - and I bet a lot of you do - turn to page 23. It describes the Feb. 20, 1961 car crash that involved Jerry and Alan Trist, among others. Jerry had just been discharged from the army in January of that same year, and by February he was hanging out with a very hip crowd that included Alan Trist. Read page 25. Towards the top of the page the paragraph starts, "It was a normal afternoon in the spring of 1961 at St. Michael's Alley... Vern Gates, the owner, was tired of Jerry Garcia, Alan Trist, and their new friend Robert Hunter..." McNally goes on to describe how Trist was "enjoying a year off between prep school and Cambridge," and had the benefit of a $25 per week allowance. Later on in the book, on page 383, McNally talks about Alan Trist's association with the Tavistock Institute, which has been accused over the years of being involved in some fairly sinister mind-control type activity. One thing McNally doesn't mention in the book is that Alan Trist is the son of Eric Trist, who was a prominent member of the Institute. Which brings me to my point: is it possible that Alan Trist wasn't just bumming around the Bay Area in the winter and spring of 1961 and happened to bump into Jerry, but rather that he was deliberately sent there by the Tavistock Institute in the early pre-dawn of the Age of Aquarius to find charismatic musicians that could be groomed as possible leaders of the coming counter-cultural movement? Jerry certainly fit that bill, but how did Trist know how to find him? Did they have a dossier on him from his time in the Army? My point is, of course, that Jerry had been tagged to have a band assembled around him long before the Dead came into existence. But who tagged him, exactly, and why? There's no doubt that he was a musical genius, which is certainly why, in my mind, he was chosen. But how did they know?
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No reason why not to weigh in. For me, it was "The Music played the band".Jer was a splendid instrument who fell into disrepair fairly often but came back except for the last "go-round". Just like all of us. The rest of the musical crew and even the infrastructure family good and less good were instruments played too. Otherwise none of it would happen. Path integral -dependent reality. Sum of all histories. I play audience and am damn good at it by now. I learned from the music and the community. Cosmic banjo or harp unstrung, it is still works. When they play colors and dynamic fractals fill the soundscape. Infinite was visual qualia for a few heartbeats. None of us were THERE. We were EVERWHERE. Recordings can connect the neuronal cascade correctly fairly often. Successor bands can get there from time to time. The audience has to be in for their part. Skeptic stance is assumed. Open mind required. I always wanted David Hidalgo for another guitar/songster for the Band. HE's a good instrument. Didn't happen. And Daveed is still on the right side of the grass Pax Jer' It MUST have been the Roses Bear xiv
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From McNally's A Long Strange Trip, page 24: "Garcia limped away with a broken collarbone and bruises after being blown through the windshield by a crash so violent and furious he would never be able to recall it. All he knew was that he had been seated in a car and next found himself squatting barefoot in a field. A hundred feet away he could see the car, a lump of twisted metal which closely resembled a flattened beer can, sod and dirt drilled into its roof. His shoes were underneath the front seat." Dude got blown out of his shoes. Sounds like tagged to me.
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Thanks so much...! I am in awe with the content, connection, flow. I read it the day it was posted and was lost for words and wanted to hold off on my gratefulness as I was not sure anyone would post from that point on... ya both never stopped rockin ;) :) :)
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IWLAJ, namely, It Was Largely About Jerry.He was clearly the creative leader of the Grateful Dead But Phil, Bob, Pig, Billy and later Mickey (and all the others) completed Jerry musically. Sorry, without that perfect configuration, no GD, a musical collective. And of course, without Jerry, no GD ether. If IWAAJ, the JGB Band would be held in as high esteem as the GD, and who's willing to go there? Jerry would have been embarrassed by IWAAJ. (And remember, there are those older heads - older than me, even, jeez - for whom IWAAP, meaning It Was All About Pigpen. In their view, anything post-Pig's death was not the "real" Grateful Dead.) IWAAJ seems to me to be the product of those who came to the GD in the 1980s, influenced perhaps by the mainstream media's lazy, cliched portrayal of Jerry as King of the Hippies, who didn't come up with the band in the 60s and 70s and who knew they were just that, a band, not Jerry Garcia and his sidemen, the Grateful Dead. The Jerry-on-a-pedestal, hero-worshipping IWAAJ, arguably contributed to Jerry's death. He didn't want that kind of stressful idolatry and tried to escape it with harder and harder drugs. We all know where that led. While I can respect those with believe IWAAJ and refuse to see any post-Jerry configurations such as the Dead, Ratdog and Furthur, I disagree with them. While those lineups clearly are not the GD, they channel the GD's music and more, and honor Jerry's legacy in the process. Ultimately, IWAAJ is self-defeating. Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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So glad to see a few nods to Pigpen in this thread...it really was all about the music, and about the SF Bay Area in the '60's...and so many other things...no question Jerry was key, even The Key, but Pig was so important while he was still with us...just watching the rest of the band being entertained by a Pig rap, then launching into a jam...those jams are treasures that owed so much to the soul/humor vibe Pig brought to the show..that particular inspiration was lost forever when we lost Pig...and wasn't Jerry quoted as saying "there lies the Grateful Dead" standing over Pig's coffin? Anyway, love all the later variations, up to and including Furthur...love all the players and writers and deadheads...everyone had/has an important role in the music and everything surrounding it, and the peace and love it brings. May the four winds blow you safely home.
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highlights the reason for my exasperation: interview with Jerry Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tg3h0q-ms interview with Jerry Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuqPlKqL-mo&feature=related god alone knows how he had the patience; this is 1994 FOLKS!!!!!! and he's still asked these idiotic questions? a less patient man would've demanded the interviewer to crawl away into a hole and hibernate indefinitely. IWAAJ? case closed.
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Wow, what a great interview. How could I have missed that one all these years. Thanks for posting, jonapi!
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hey, you didn't miss it!!! the classic myinnereyemike1 channel on youtube only posted it 6 days ago! always amazes me how things can surface when you least expect it! great isn't it? i always check regularly on various sites; vimeo, dailymotion , youtube etc. an for months there's nothin'! and then suddenly......! glad you liked it!
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Yeah!- thanks again jonapi. I'm thinking that's among the very best interviews with Jerry I've ever seen or heard. But, yes, what boneheaded and unprofessional interviewers! Hehe! Glad Jerry was so patient...
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more patient than me, certainly, ha ha!! funny to see him get a little vexed at the start but he soon warmed to the subjects. gotta let it go i guess but man, what a drag is must be to reiterate the same ol' same ol'. part of the job i suppose but never should it be! nice to see him get excited about the Acid Test era and Cassady. don't forget to check ya private messages PalmerEldritch; i've sent you some links to free stuff that'll blow ya' Mind!!! have a good weekend, man!
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For me the surviving members have never come up to the level of mystery that they did with Jerry. Also after having seen them all numerous times post Jerry my opinion is only Kreutzmann seems to be able to play at the level they did when Jerry was alive. Further, don't get me started. For all the young guys in that band they play slower then the Dead ever did on a night Jerry was off. I really think the Americana music awards should give The Dead, esp Jerry an award because I think without them blazing the way the genre would not be what it is today.
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but phil & bob are getting on in years and this slowdown is not unexpected, don't blame jk or chimenti for this. look at the t-shirts closely. see those two names? it is what it is. i like it for the nostalgia of the entire experience. they aren't breaking any new ground here and, frankly, i would be amazed if they did. still, i have enjoyed myself quite a bit relaxing in a shady, uncrowded spot at a furthur show and letting the music softly play over me. i have also enjoyed the parking lot scene. even jawing with the chaperones closely hovering around their kids. the whole thing just makes me smile in a lazy way. i'm glad i caught the real thing back in the day. it makes reflecting on the current scene quite pleasant without the feeling that i've missed a single thing. enjoy it if you can. it won't be around much longer...