30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 22, 2016 - 7:18pm

#131

Sun King

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30 Trips

Now that both versions have sold out, and TPTB have said they will not sell them as individual cd's, I wonder how long until they will be sold individually as downloads. I'm certain it will happen.....
February 22, 2016 - 3:06pm

#132

Kayak Guy

Joined:
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RE: Broken Boxes

I agree with Space on this, the more boxes that get cannibalized, the more valuable my complete box will be. As a collector I have learned to buy whatever dead.net offers the day it is announced and think about it later. This habit started with Dick's Pick 1, years before i got my first CD player for DP 4 to hear the Other One without a cut, and hasn't stopped yet. I sometimes buy 2 copies and open one, rip it and give it away to a friend, keeping the sealed one as my master. As Rhino moves to a more digital friendly distribution, I feel the number of limited edition CDs will get even tighter as they tweek the number needed to pay for the release and then be able to distribute digitally forever. To see this in action look at Robert Fripps DGMlive as a perfect example of commercial digital distribution of an artists archival releases. What is this ebay thing people talk about? ;)
February 22, 2016 - 2:23pm

#133

Born Cross Eye…

Joined:
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@ reijo29: 1975 Trip - Harmonica player

That's Matt Kelly a friend of Weir's, later a member of Kingfish. Also he plays on Beat It On Down The Line. Low in the mix, bummer.
February 22, 2016 - 2:08pm

#134

Born Cross Eye…

Joined:
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USB BOLT SOLD OUT!

YAHOOOOO! This edition of the 50th anniversary box FINALLY SOLD OUT!The last time I checked here and tried to buy 15 bolt USB's was Sunday 21 February 2016, I could not buy more than 11. It took some time but dead.net finally sold "every last one" There may be some returns, but essentially they're gone. I bought the 80 CD big box and I love it. Although I was familiar with most of the shows prior to this official release everything sounds like a new suprise. Since there was a delay with the USB package, I wish the 11/14/73 San Diego show was presented in it's correct playing order, as opposed to the CD version and that the Drums> Space on several shows did not have fades. That would have made this USB better than the CD version. Oh well. I now believe that GDP / Rhino know what they're doing. Kudos on a project done well!
February 22, 2016 - 11:51am

#135

reijo29

Joined:
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1975 Harmonica Trip

Just made it to 1975. Did anyone notice the harmonica playing in the Music Never Stopped? The liner notes do not refer to anyone sitting in
February 22, 2016 - 5:25am

#136

hbob1995

Joined:
June 26, 2007

@Unklesam re: ebay

On your $200 profit you forgot: ebay & Paypal fees are approx. 10%. So your profit is now down to $90. Is it really worth it? You would have to create 30 ebay listings, and make numerous trips to the post office. I myself would not put that kind of effort into making $90. Rock on
February 21, 2016 - 9:00pm

#137

philledawg

Joined:
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PURCHASING MUSIC WHILE IT IS AVAILABLE...

I will say no more than this...Sorry, Gotta do this up in CAPS! ;) 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN WAS AVAILABLE FOR WELL OVER 5 MONTHS @DEADNET. Shows, are not an excuse. Purchasing extra music, esp. if it's available for AMPLE time......OUT. ;)
February 21, 2016 - 12:54pm

#138

SPACEBROTHER

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Broken Boxes

Breaking up these boxes is a non-sequitur imho. I wouldn't do it because I'm not so era-centric to deny myself the enjoyment of something that was put together as a timeline project. On the other side of that, the more boxes that do get cannibalized will only make the complete sets more valuable, if you're into commodities. If you purchase a show from the box that happens to have a bad disc, good luck getting that replaced.
February 21, 2016 - 10:12am

#139

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

limited, collectors items, making profit

There are a lot of people who have always profited from the grateful dead. Jerry didn't mind, look at the parking lots in most dead shows, full of people who made a living from selling stuff to kind folks related to the band and band members. There will always be a demand for these great recordings, limited or not, there will and is a way for the masses to get these shows, if not from a friend via a cdr, then from ebay. There are a lot more people out there nowdays who do buy and sell just for profit on ebay, and why not? Where are you going to get such a great return for your initial investment? Breaking up the boxes and selling each show for, say, 30 bucks, that's a quick (within a week) profit of 200 bucks. Where else are you going to make that kinda of cash for sitting infront of your computer and posting shows? Seriously, if one had the money, could buy up as many as you could afford, hold them for 6 months until sold out, then put them up at twice what you paid, there is no where else anywhere that you are going to get that much return for an investment so fast, nowhere, certainly not the stock market. I know several people who have been doing the resale thing for a few years, first with old lp's that they acquired via estate sales, garage sales or record store buyouts or when a lot of folks "upgraded" to cd's back in the 90's. I for one did not do that, I kept my old records and bought the cd's to play, but that's another story cause cd's don't sound as good as lp's in my opinion. They still do it and with the limited editions of most music nowdays, it's money in the bank, especially dead music. There is money to be made from these kind of investments, one person I know does only that now, puts all up on ebay and makes a tidy profit, all from doing what they love, finding old classics and first issues of old records, clean them up a bit and resale. It's a good thing, a lot of these old original recordings would end up in a dumpster if not for what they do and I salute them for that, they are like the American pickers of the music world. Back in the day of 1.99 records, I would spend hours looking thru stacks of lp's, it was a blast. Next time you got a minute, check out ebay, look what they are getting for old tshirts and old bootleg cds and lps, first press cd's and out of print recordings, there is a gold mine out there in peoples garages and attics and most don't know what they have as far as music recordings and rock and roll memorabilia goes. Back in the day a lot of dead memorabilia was free, but as we all know, there aren't too many free rides left in this country. 4-9-91 is worth a relisten, that second set is smoking with a great foolish heart going into drums and a great TOO>wharf rat coming out of space. Not too bad for an added on show as the first 2 sold out in minutes, so they added the 9th.
February 20, 2016 - 1:03pm

#140

Spoyball

Joined:
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Broken boxes

I have a few questions on the individual shows being sold on eBay. Does a seller make more selling shows individually? Seems like a lot of work if it's 30 different buyers at once too. By the amount of boxes being broken does that make the 30 trips box unbroken more valuable, being that there's less than 6,500 then? I have no problems with the secondary market, I would have never heard Pure Jerry full series without secondary market. I personally have no desire to sell my 30 Trips but my wife asked if I'd ever sell it and it was a easy no, but my only saving grace with my wife is I tell her my constant GD purchases will always hold value. I recently saw a 30 trips box start at $650 and sold for $1,080. That's holding value. To me, $300 profit isn't worth the " it's all about the music" because I like the the extras, my wife asked about me selling Winterland 73' box my reasoning was it has the lil good ol grateful dead pin, no way I'm selling.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Zuck

Now THAT's a bucket list! ;) sorry,couldn't help it

Next Prediction

Barton Hall 5/8/77 will be announced as a single release on June 23, 2015.

Cornell

That's pretty specific-why June 23rd? Eventually, it should be released just for posterity. (My copy was always missing beginning of Minglewood anyway)

My Money Is Going Fast

Living in Australia and having to pay so much for the concert tickets was brutal and this was the last thing I needed...still got it though. Looks like there will a fair few more 50 hour work weeks.

David Lemieux Video

Any guesses as to how many more inaudible videos he'll continue releasing until he figures out you can shoot video indoors?

Windscreen

All I can say is....windscreen.:)

Release Video & Seaside Distractions

It used to annoy me, the seaside distractions, wind, how a tsetsi fly can yank his mind from a killer Scarlet>Fire to, "Hey, look, a boat and a sea gull" Now it just cracks me up. I actually look forward to them. We should make a drinking (or toking) game out of it somehow. It wouldn't be a release video without the outdoor distractions and C- production effort. It would be like the year they did Saturday Night - "not live." Remember that? Didn't work. Just my two cents.

Loving it!

Been a lurker but finally decided to join in. I cut my teeth on the Dead about 2 years ago and have been loving every minute of it. The music really is a conduit to whatever you want it to be. The fact that there are so many shows and so many ways to listen to them is mind blowing and I have a long way to go on my GD journey. This thread has been great, yes there has been bickering and some whining here and there, but overall, it's been a great teaching tool. I love when people mention show dates or versions of songs that they love, it gives me things to research and brings out the nuances of the music and differences in people's taste. Trying to find a copy of DP19 now, thanks for that info. There was no question for me, I had to have the box. I can't wait to see what this behemoth is going to look like already. Let's go Dave, show us some pics! "When you gotta shoot a video, you gotta shoot a video." And to add to the decade debate, I find myself gravitating to the energy and youthfulness of the 70's but there is something about Jerry's voice in the 89-90 run that I can't get out of my head. (FYI, the TOO box is worth the purchase.) The warble, the reaching...something magical is happening during the show's where he's on. I'm obsessed right now with Cold Rain and Snow from the 7/4/89 show. I thought it couldn't get any better until I recently heard his backup vocals on Desolation Row from the 7/19/89 show. Unbelievably haunting and beautiful. Can anyone point me to other versions of Row like this one?

Dave Lemieuz Videos

50??, He likes it.

Great choice of shows!

Fantastic! I´ve been listening to a handfull of the shows selected for the BIG BOX. They´re all great! I found them on archive.org, and I can only believe that they sound even better on CDs. There are many shows where Phil exels: Greek theatre, Parc des Expositions, and many others Being a bassplayer myself, it give me enormous pleasure to listen to them! If I could afford the box (and my wife would allow it: -When you´re gonna listen to them all? -You have everything else...hundreds of CDs!..&c) it I´d buy it immediatly.

Des Row

3-24-90, on Postcards of the Hanging

{{{hbob & vguy}}}

Thanks - I missed the heck out of the old Eleven crew...that and the black hole gravitational pull of The Box wouldn't let me permanently escape deadnet's orbit. RD - Re: the "precursor" series - after burning a few videos for posterity sake, I sold almost all releases on ebay for a handsome profit. Unfortunately, having requested a comparably aged spouse, I had to dump him at a deep discount as that 80's stuff just don't sell as well with deadheadz. peace, K

Trade 30 trips for Europe 72 + Dave's 1 & 2

Long time lurker... First post. I'm thinking of buying a second box with the intention of trading it for a Europe 72 trunk + Dave's 1&2 with bonus. I would consider other combinations like Europe all music + Dave's 2012 complete. Pm me if you have any interest and I can order the box to be shipped directly to you. Possibly interested in some road trips.

1970-04-15

Pretty happening... Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment ->

Miracle

I have all the other Boxsets even the Fillmore set. Unfortunately I wont be able to bite the bullet on this one this year. But if someone wants to Miracle me one Im sure I have some music I can trade. :)

Pig speech ... where is it?

Seth says: "I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing!I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality!" Dang! I would really like to hear this speech. A friend of mine swears that some choice banter that was on his 10/30 or 31/1970 tape didn't make it over to the digital realm. Perhaps that is the issue with 5/15/70?

@deadhead12

I just sent you a PM :)

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

that's all

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

anyone know how many left? I was goofing with my wife last night, told hear about the 30 trips box. I said to her, oh, didn't you say the charge on the credit card? it should show on the card any day... Her jaw dropped... again, I did not purchase, but was curious to her reaction... good thing i didn't pull the trigger! dog house for sure...

Sold out

It's sold out. Sold out Thurs. when u go to checkout will say " basket contains item sold out or " item cannot be paid with V .me

Sales

Hey Keithfan. They just dropped below 1900 left, so 4,600 out the door. They seem to be clicking along at 50 - 100 sold per day. So while it is not as fast as the E'72 box, it will sell out, probably end of June, early July. So that will give some folks more time to collect their coins. Rock on

Not sold out

Nope. I can still add to the cart. Must have been an error on Thursday.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I can. It's 700 bucks! That simple fact alone will keep lots of fans like myself from even considering purchasing this. Any way I shake it I just can't pay that much in one shot for a box set of cd's no matter how badly I want it.

Also Ridin that train

I'm with you, it's 700 bucks! Many of my buds were in shock when we heard that last week. I also can't believe that so many have actually sold. It's just out of reach for me but it sure will be something special. Spent all of Saturday night early Sunday revisiting the May 77 box. Loved reading the booklet & getting deep into the Alabama show.

Desolation Row always a treat to hear. Check out - 3.8.92

A few other killer ones 12.31.86 4.11.87 2.17.88 6.15.90 7.19.90

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

Me neither. Talking about Veneta. I am shocked that thing is still available. I jumped on it the first day it went on sale. I consider it a top 5 all time show, it's incredible! The slipcase packaging is very cool, I display it next to my Todd Mcfarlane Jerry Garcia "action" figure. :)

let's pool our money and buy lottery tickets

then after we win we can each buy a copy . So many good shows that deserve the official treatment, yet it is beyond my grubby little dollar colored fingers. Send me your dollars, and I'll play Lotto for you. Stoltzfus 169 Please Road Fatchoad, NE 0U812 cash only

Good news

Looks like the 50th Anniversary T is back in stock... I can afford that! ;)

PASS BIG TIME

IF I was to buy into this "thing" I would prefer to pick my own 30 Trips. That would mean so much more to me. If I say any more I would just get a bunch of people pissed off. So I would rather pick my own 30 trips and lets just leave it at that.

good news indeed

Maybe I will get that shirt for Father's day, Ha! My dog Sugaree would love that stoneware bowl to eat her chow from. Honestly if I am out and about and I see something cool Dead related I will usually buy it, but I rarely purchase stuff like that online. I only think about the music when it comes to dead.net

So would I James

...but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for THAT opportunity.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I figured with Venetta, at least maybe the reason was because it's commercially available in (I assume) large numbers. Does anyone know how many Sunshine Daydreams were pressed? Was it limited edition? I bought mine at Barnes and Noble in April of 2014, and that's actually what got the ball rolling on me spending 1000s of dollars on Grateful Dead music, as my collection went from about 20 to 200 in the past year. We shall see how 30 Trips does. I hope it sells out.... With regard to comments that it hasn't sold out because of high price - I think the litmus test was E72 - wouldn't it be the same buyer pool? Are we saying that E72 was significantly less expensive, or significantly better? Or has it just not been enough time? Anyone know how long it took E72 to sell out of the original trunk limited editions?

Is there Anyone Interested in?????

I will give you this $700 box set and you give me in return The complete Fillmore box with the bonus disk possibly some road Trips and some (I repeat SOME cash) Let me know. Thanks

I can believe that this thing hasn't sold out yet...

I have the idea that this box is not really attractive to scalpers, so they haven't been buying it up en masse. Most limited editions seem to sell on eBay for at least three times the original price, but how many people will be willing to fork out $2000 or more for this in 6 months or a years time? Not that many is my guess and I think the scalpers know this. Their other possible strategy is to sell individual shows but by doing that they risk getting stuck with a bunch of less popular shows. Furthermore, buying a whole bunch of these to sell later is going to cost a buttload of dollars with less certainty of a (quick) return on the outlay. Sure some copies will show up on eBay etc., but I would not expect to see as many of these as there are examples of (much) cheaper sold out limited editions.As I recall the Europe '72 box sold out in a matter of days, maybe 4 days. That certainly surprised everyone.

I know I'm a greedy cuss

but this would without doubt have given me cardiac arrest: 7/03 & 11/19/66 11/10 & 11/11/67 10/12 & 10/13/68 2/21 & 2/22/69 9/18 & 9/19/70 12/14 & 12/15/71 9/23 & 9/24/72 2/09 & 2/15/73 6/22 & 6/23/74 6/17 & 9/28/75 10/14 & 10/15/76 2/26 & 2/27/77 7/07 & 7/08/78 10/27 & 10/28/79 11/28 & 11/29/80 But what would one call it? Dead to die for? sheesh

A summer release?

There is something to be said for a mass market release before the Chicago/California shows. This seems like a great opportunity to release a show that fans could pick up in person. Or maybe they'll be selling copies of the shows fans just attended.

Europe 72 Box Sales

I am fairly certain that the limited edition box of Europe 72 sold out in less than 48 hours...

About those 17 shows after 1978

I have a little bit of a different perspective. I only got into the Dead a few years ago, and while I've never seen them, I love the music - we're talking non-stop tunes in my house. My uncle had hooked me up with a starter set of Ladies and Gentlemen, Go To Nassau, Dozin' at the Knick, and Hundred Year Hall. I didn't even know who was who in the band other then Jerry and the good looking other guy. I immediately stayed away from Dozin at the Knick because I sensed something different in the keyboards, and that something was Brent Mydland's sound. There is something very distinctive about his sound that I can't even describe, but it's not a classic grand piano sound like you get with Keith Godchaux's playing. Even today I can't tell you what the difference is in their equipment, but Brent's keyboard is very abrasive to me, and I mean his piano synthesizer, not the organ like sound that he sometimes uses in the early 80s (Hammond?). Anyway, I kept buying shows, Crimson White and Indigo was another, so was Closing of Winterland, and the pattern with the keyboards seemed to follow Brent Mydland, so I began to steer away from those CDs. I also don't care much for his voice. He does not sound good at all when he tries to harmonize with the others, and I was in chorus for 5 years in my youth, so a high level of discordant singing is very apparent to me. I guess if I had to sum up my position, it is as an unbiased historian. I've never seen the Grateful Dead, I wasn't around when they were making music (for the most part), so I am simply replaying recordings as an unbiased listener and observing that there is a huge discrepancy in the quality of songs when you compare a live performance of a song like let's say Cassidy or Jack Straw or Scarlet Begonias between the 70s and let's say Spring 90. What I hear in 1990 is a tired Jerry, an out of tune, gravelly voiced Brent, and these piano sounds that sound loud and out of tune with the rest of the music (and by out of tune, I mean it doesn't mix in well like Keith's Grand piano sound, it doesn't make a "whole" full sound, the audio frequencies do not mesh to create something bigger than the individual parts). So, I don't find myself putting on anything after 1978 too much. I try from time to time, in the interest of discovering something, or "getting past" my hang-up, but it always goes back to the fact that comparatively speaking, the music doesn't sound nearly as good after 1978 as it does before. I get some enjoyment out of songs that were new to the 80s era, such as Feel Like a Stranger, Alabama Getaway, etc, but that's about it. I can understand why some people like it - I think the people that like it were probably introduced to the Grateful Dead in the 80s or 90s, or followed them out of the 70s and into the 80s and 90s. I think these folks probably saw a lot of the shows or at least shared in them together with friends when the shows were originally played, and so there is an emotional investment that makes these shows more appealing. I even get the "pre-hiatus" people, as there was a tectonic shift in the music after the hiatus that is clearly the result of having two drummers - gone were the days when the Dead played Dark Star, and the improvisations always went so far!

new addition

Looks like they've got the new Best Of on vinyl.Good price too.:)

KeithFan2112 , QUACK QUACK Scarlet > Fire

Does 10.2.77 QUACK QUACK ?? Some solid nuggets going around 10.16.74 - Cumberland Blues ; Row Jimmy The Cumberland Blues is Killer.

Trunks

I believe E72 Trunks sold out within a few days could be wrong

Today's listening habit:

Sydney Bechet "The Best of" (Blue Note) 6/08/39 ("Summertime")James P. Johnson "Snowy Morning Blues" 6/08/44 Roland Kirk "Introducing" 6/07/60 Gigi Gryce "Rat Race Blues" 6/07/60 Grateful Dead Winterland 6/07/77 Set two Scarlet > Fire > Good Loving Bob Marley "Easy Skanking" 6/08/78 Boston Music Hall What?

"She never stumbles..

11.21.85 ,, Some incredible stuff here Crazy Fingers > Playing In The Band > She Belongs To Me > Drums

She's go no place to fall."

Agree.

Some dude on Reddit....

seems to think the mass-market release is going to be 8-4-76 w/ DVD. Anyone else hear this?

Do I...

Want to go there, yes I think I will. From what year will DP 15 be? I say 1976. HAPPY MONDAY DEADLAND, so glad it's (almost) over!!!! Peace

E72 Trunks

If I remember correctly, they were gone within four days.

I am also thinking 1976

i would be happy with a lot of offerings from this year, but a few standout.. 7.18.76 - 2nd set jam fest Might As Well Samson & Delilah Candyman Lazy Lightning-> Supplication-> Let It Grow-> Drums-> Let It Grow-> Wharf Rat-> The Other One-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Saint Stephen-> The Wheel-> The Other One-> Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia, Encore: Johnny B. Goode 1st set also worth checking out with a great choice of tunes

Orpheum run

Yeah, 7-18 is 24K.I would love to see the entire Orpheum 76 run get the box treatment, or at least compiled as a solid compilation with 7-18 as the centerpiece. I'm still thinking 73 for Dap 15....3-16 would fit the bill nicely.

Europe '72

http://www.dead.net/features/europe-72/holy-s-it’s-complete-europe-’72-box-over-60-discs Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

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