Grateful Dead

I remember a guy posting that you couldnt be a deadhead unless you saw them before 1970. I feel bad for the fellas for wasting their time after that. I know Jerry pondered opening a flower store. Probably would have been a better use of his time.

there is a parable in a certain religious text that relates to this, but it would take a while to 'splain. You just have to "get it". I'm a Deadhead you're a Deadhead wouldn't you like to be a Deadhead, too? be a Deadhead, just be a Deadhead... (Matthew 20 1-16) no matter when you got or get on the bus, welcome.

trying to order this gem, but I click on Add to Cart, and it fades to processing...and stays there. I don't need another copy of AOTS, but I certainly want this release. Try again later, stoltzfus; try again from home.

My "original" remixed versions have the old olive green WB label and the Warner/Reprise beige inner sleeve with a picture of Burbank on it. The Anthem cover has a colour picture on the back.

Guess the old copy’s jun... wait a tic... Oh no you don’t!! There’s no way I’m buying Two From The Vault again, haha!

https://youtu.be/UBmEkqoPQbkThis one is really good....

Dead.net, I'm in... What about Pembroke Pines?

I went through at least two copies of the LP because the pop and click infiltrated not to mention skips. I bought a copy of the tape for my car before I had a tape deck to copy the LP. Bought the CD when it was first available. Got another CD in one of the GD box sets with some bonus tracks. Do I get it again? Of course! Buying the flacs because I have enough stuff in my life. Best GD "studio" album ever IMHO.

I spent years wondering where Pembroke Pines was. As it never says sportatorium on it. Then I realized it was the old hollywood sportatorium. My freaky friend and I saw Rush there on the Signals tour. Did some research, seems that it was not called Pembroke Pines until the early 90's, I think, as that area north of Miami expanded. The fact that Dick's 3 sounds so good is a testament to Betty's skills and the fact that Bear figured out long before of an up channel split for her own mix. That place was a wild place back then, but was a dump. We were 17 and on a school trip. We snuck out to buy the tickets several days before the show. The day of the show, we took a city bus probably 10 miles north out of Miami. We then got a cab to take us further north. As we got close to the sporto, traffic backed up, and I mean for miles. There was only one way in from the south so all Rush heads in Miami were in that jam. We were poor as Shite. So the cab fair got to be too expensive. We jump out and start to walk/hitch hike. Fortunately some other freaks picked us up and were heading to the venue. They were also nice enough to burn a few and sell a few. We got up close so sound was decent. Wehn the show ended we were 20 miles north of our hotel with only a little bit of money. We got a ride that got us about 10 miles out from the hotel. Then walked close enough to where we could make it by cab. We got a cab made it to with a half a mile of the hotel. Paid the cabie out last bit of money. Got to bed around 4, had to wake up at 7 to eat breakfast and get on the school bus back home. We were truly young and stupid but the memory lives fresh. Very glad we did it, and were successful. http://www.hollywoodsportatorium.com/

Please send me a PM so we can get things just exactly perfect, or at least a little closer!

https://www.rush.com/tour/signals/ Nice setlist, although it was the same for the entire tour.

Rush Signals. It was an excellent tour. We also saw them earlier on that tour in Nashville at the old Municipal Auditorium. Probably still my favorite single venue that I have been too. Saw many concerts there starting in the late 70's. It is a round coliseum like Madison Square or Oakland with no internal columns, all supported by steel girders overhead. Sound in that arena is spectacular. Plus since Broon's Bane was still around (i.e. Terry Brown - engineer) their live sound was spectacular. They seem to go down hill after he left. The last time I saw Rush was 1997 in Charlotte when I was in grad school. It was still very good. But the early years smoked. I saw them about 12-15 times between 79 and 97. Saw Yes on the 90210 (or is that the tv show) and the Big Generator tour in that Nashville Coliseum. Dozin oh so well. By the Big Generator tour, we were hooked into the folks that got us pure mothers milk. My freaky friend prepared us some cubes. He said one of the 7 is a double. Turned out they were all doubles but one was a triple. Zowie. So back to that old coliseum. Jeff Beck plays there this fall. I am trying to figure out if I am healthy enough to go. First, to see Beck, but also to be in that old coliseum where so many memories have been made. Man, look at all those dates. Wow Geddy could still do it.

....you know you are having a good year when Casper, WY and Pocatello, ID are on the tour.

Great idea, 9/2/68 is worth releasing for sure. I had some family attend that one, and the entire Sky River festival sounded like it would've been worth documenting on film/tape. The lineup was interesting and varied, not just music groups. Apparently it all started/began with an event where a piano was dropped from a world record height, and people at the festival where having giant balloons strapped to them to jump around with. Besides all the interesting historical background and my personal connection with the show, I would also say that its a great listen, the show took place in what may be my favorite period of the GD, august68-april69. On an even more trivial note, I also think this show is the first we see/have photos of Jerry looking like the Jerry most people know and picture in their heads when his name is brought up.

I do my best not to get pulled into side discussions on politics or religions, and usually other bands as well. But if anyone has never heard the Rush Live Counterparts disk recorded in London in 1977, you need to look that one up. I think I have the name of recording and place right. Wanna hear Geddy sing those early songs in his true squirrel voice, he does it. It is an awesome disk. Matter of fact, got to track mine down, I have not listened to that in decades. Wow, maybe like 1998. Edit: haha, Pocatello, Idaho

That's excited album have ever release.

....looks like someone got into Jim's toad collection and started licking away.

There is a ton of confusion about which Anthem mix is where -- even within this thread. I'm banking on DeadBase having the accurate goods on this issue. At this point it doesn't matter much, because we are about to get both on one CD. They'll probably do the same with Aoxomoxoa next year. That one is way less confusing. The only recent release of the original mix was on the vinyl box of all the Warner's studio albums that Rhino put out. That mix is very different from any that you've been hearing on CD all these years.

Great New Potato

1994, not 1977 Gary, don’t worry about discussing Rush on this board, The Who vs Doors debate went on for days. I saw the Counterparts show at The Palace. Turns out it’s on YouTube, think I’ll watch it. https://youtu.be/2FSRdWYaXMU https://youtu.be/3-K63kpZERE

The "new" Neil Young release just arrived. Tonight's The Night Live, they call it from the Roxy in the Seventies. It's sloppy, in that perfect Neil Young way. This one has gotten a lot of attention in the build-up. I can imagine you people liking it. Just sayin'.

Here is the live recordings I was talking about. Me confused, although some of it is from Counterparts. I think the inside art work has some counterparts sketches, like a 3d type blue print art. Not in 3d, more like how architecture drawings look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Different_Stages_(Rush_album) 1978 disk is from Hammersmith Odeon. Edit: Oh yeah I will watch that!

....my son came to me tonight and asked me if I've heard of Johnny Cash. Needless to say, The Man In Black is in the house tonight....

.... original release date 7.18.68. The Doors Waiting For The Sun release date 7.3.68. Double Suns. I was born on 5.21.68, but not on Tatooine. Probably opened my eyes soon after, looking or waiting for the sun. It all comes together....

from wikipedia Remix and alternate cover A remixed version of Anthem of the Sun, supervised by Phil Lesh, was issued in 1972 (with the same product number, WS-1749), and can be identified by the letters RE after the master numbers. The remix particularly differs from the original in terms of segues, use of live recordings, and stereo imaging. For example, the original mix starts with vocals and organ panned wide, while the remix has them centered; Bob Weir's studio vocal on the first track is doubled with a live recording on the original mix and solo on the remix. "Born Cross-Eyed" ends with a power chord in the key of E on the remix, whereas the original mix has an earlier fade-out. Around the same time Jerry Garcia supervised a remix of the Grateful Dead's following album Aoxomoxoa. While the Aoxomoxoa remix was used for original Warner Bros and subsequent Rhino CD issues, the original mix of Anthem of the Sun was chosen for CD reissues. Alternate cover of Anthem of the Sun In 2013 the Grateful Dead studio albums were remastered again for listening in digital high resolution. The 2013 download is the first digital issue of the Anthem of the Sun early 70s remix. Confusingly, the promotion for this reissue emphasized the use of original mixes (particularly those of the Workingman's Dead and American Beauty albums which had been remixed for previous high resolution digital releases).[9][10] However, Anthem of the Sun and Aoxomoxoa appear in the 2013 HD release not in their original mixes, but in remixed form, as released in 1972. As remix masters were not sent to the UK, vinyl pressings of the album in this region (and probably other foreign markets) continued to use the original mix after 1972.[11] When the album was reissued in 1975, Warner Brothers changed the background color on the front cover from midnight blue to white, and the stylized title was changed to a standard font. As the band had not approved the change, the following pressings reverted to blue.[12]

i have a SBD copy of 6/25/95 and its missing "Picasso Moon". wondering if anyone can help me complete my show.

Rhino any Merch for this ? I hope record shops in my area get some promo stuff to help sell this release. Was looking for some stuff from RSD but local guy said there was none. Best promo Merch from recent rhino release was Red Rocks 1978 show Bonus disc selection of 10.22.67 ~ Winterland is not much of a surprise. Got this performance in Jeeb's Stash. Definitely a show that will stand the test of time as well. Rhino is there any remnants from Columbus November 1968 performance stocked away in the vault ?

I just got around to ordering this release thru Warner Music Group, passing themselves as dead.net. I guess I am supporting this community and dead.net/Grateful Dead Productions, so it's a good thing. I have a nephew who has a great tech job at Amazon who knows I love the Grateful Dead and that I'm a non-stereotypical Dead Head. He'll probably just smile and say that's OK. I'm very pleased that the 1st disc will contain the original 1968 mix and the 1971 remix. However, neither will sound exactly like their original vinyl releases, because vinyl sounds a bit different than CD, with its "warm" sound. The compact disc has no surface noise, no pops from scratches, no sounds of dirt/dust in the grooves, but a slightly harsher sound. It will be great to compare the mixes with the convenience of one single playback medium of the compact disc. I'm glad that 10/22/67 was selected as the bonus disc as I never heard this show until recently via archive.org, and I really fell in love with it. I'm sure Jeff Norman will do a great/outstanding/excellent job with these recordings. The show itself was a Marijuana Defense Fund benefit event. As I said earlier on the DaP26 thread, I don't use marijuana as I once did. I really don't need any mind/mood altering substances to enjoy the music of the Grateful Dead, if the occasion arises to get high/drunk, well that's a different story, and I take it one day at a time. It's the magic in the music itself that gets me in a good mood and high at the same time.

I just got around to ordering this release thru Warner Music Group, passing themselves as dead.net. I guess I am supporting this community and dead.net/Grateful Dead Productions, so it's a good thing. I have a nephew who has a great tech job at Amazon who knows I love the Grateful Dead and that I'm a non-stereotypical Dead Head. He'll probably just smile and say that's OK. I'm very pleased that the 1st disc will contain the original 1968 mix and the 1971 remix. However, neither will sound exactly like their original vinyl releases, because vinyl sounds a bit different than CD, with its "warm" sound. The compact disc has no surface noise, no pops from scratches, no sounds of dirt/dust in the grooves, but a slightly harsher sound. It will be great to compare the mixes with the convenience of one single playback medium of the compact disc. I'm glad that 10/22/67 was selected as the bonus disc as I never heard this show until recently via archive.org, and I really fell in love with it. I'm sure Jeff Norman will do a great/outstanding/excellent job with these recordings. The show itself was a Marijuana Defense Fund benefit event. As I said earlier on the DaP26 thread, I don't use marijuana as I once did. I really don't need any mind/mood altering substances to enjoy the music of the Grateful Dead, if the occasion arises to get high/drunk, well that's a different story, and I take it one day at a time. It's the magic in the music itself that gets me in a good mood and high at the same time.

I just got around to ordering this release thru Warner Music Group, passing themselves as dead.net. I guess I am supporting this community and dead.net/Grateful Dead Productions, so it's a good thing. I have a nephew who has a great tech job at Amazon who knows I love the Grateful Dead and that I'm a non-stereotypical Dead Head. He'll probably just smile and say that's OK. I'm very pleased that the 1st disc will contain the original 1968 mix and the 1971 remix. However, neither will sound exactly like their original vinyl releases, because vinyl sounds a bit different than CD, with its "warm" sound. The compact disc has no surface noise, no pops from scratches, no sounds of dirt/dust in the grooves, but a slightly harsher sound. It will be great to compare the mixes with the convenience of one single playback medium of the compact disc. I'm glad that 10/22/67 was selected as the bonus disc as I never heard this show until recently via archive.org, and I really fell in love with it. I'm sure Jeff Norman will do a great/outstanding/excellent job with these recordings. The show itself was a Marijuana Defense Fund benefit event. As I said earlier on the DaP26 thread, I don't use marijuana as I once did. I really don't need any mind/mood altering substances to enjoy the music of the Grateful Dead, if the occasion arises to get high/drunk, well that's a different story, and I take it one day at a time. It's the magic in the music itself that gets me in a good mood and high at the same time.

Having bought the vinyl WB box which includes the original mixes of both AOTS and AOXOMOXOA, I can tell everyone, definitively, that I have never heard any CD version with the original 1968 mix. All American pressings have used the 1971 remix. When I first listened to the vinyl original mix, my jaw hit the floor. It is quite jarring to ears that are accustomed only to the remix. In a good way.

"Celebrate the 40th Anniversary of Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty with THE WARNER BROS. STUDIO ALBUMS, a five-LP boxed set. The collection contains The Grateful Dead (1967),Workingman’s Dead, the original mix of Aoxomoxoa (1969), and American Beauty (1970), plus the original mix for Anthem Of The Sun (1968), available on vinyl for the first time in nearly 40 years."

...I am completely confused. I don't know which mix is which. I would think that the folks in charge here would know (like DL), but perhaps this isn't the case?

"The original mix was later planned for CD release, but the original master tapes could not be located. When the masters were finally found, years later, they were used for The Warner Bros. Studio Albums vinyl box set, marking the first time the 1969 mix has been available since the 1971 remix replaced it, in 1972. The 2013 high definition remastering for download uses the remixed version - even though promotion related to this release declared "produced from the original analog master tapes in 2013, using the original album mixes"

The first version of Anthem I ever heard was bought by a family member at a used record store in the late '60's. My first version was a standard mid '70's issue. His was different than mine. When I first bought a cd player back in '87, my first purchase was Anthem and we compared the two records to the cd with headphones. The cd is derived from the mix that was from his late '60's copy. The most obvious example is after Born Cross-Eyed which on '71 remix, ends with the note blast.

I "got it" when listening to it on New Year's morning 1983 or 1984 after being up all night on the Rose Parade route. A very green night. "Alligator!!! Alligator!!! Alligator!!! Alligator!!!" :)))

So just recently I purchased my first ever Grateful Dead studio albums. Ever since I got on the bus it has only been tapes and live releases for me. I picked up the Golden Road box set which has all of the albums up to Bears Choice. Anthem is in there. That release has bonus material from the Shrine in 68 which I believe is what is now included on 2 from the Vault. So with the new anniversary release I had to buy it as well. I am looking forward to the different mixes. It will be neat to compare the two. More so I am looking forward to the 2ND disc with the 10/22/67 show. Can't go wrong with that or this release in general. Still I find the irony that after being on the bus for over 25 years, I have made studio album purchases for the first time within a few months of each other. Only the Grateful Dead can do that for me.

Am I the only one having trouble placing an order for the 2 CD set? I clicked 'add to cart' and it has been 'processing' for 20mins now. Ugh. I want the fancy special 'lenticular cover' that only comes w/ early order. Memories of Barton hall May 77 box set returning.

she's your best bet.

I am interested in comparing the 2 versions of AOTS, but am even more excited about the 10/22/67 release as the great sounding Charlie Miller treated recordings on archive have the Lovelight cut.... THE REAL QUESTION IS: DOES THE DEAD HAVE THE ORIGINAL MASTERS OF THIS SHOW IN THE VAULT?, AND IF SO .... DO THEY HAVE THE ENTIRE LOVELIGHT? If they don't have the full lovelight, then I can just keep listening to CM's treated recording. I have a midnight blue vinyl copy (I always thought it was purple) of AOTS and now I will have a reason to re-listen to it and check for 'RE' in the dead wax. I also have an old CD version. If it turns out that I have both mixes already,then the question of the Lovelight cut and the Jeff Norman treatment of 10/22/67 will be the reason to buy this for me. I don't listen to the studio stuff anymore, so this will be a good excuse to go back and relisten to this one. The best thing about this release is that I am finally going to get clarity on the 2 different mixes. Thanks DEAD.NET!

I did things the opposite way round-more by necessity than choice. I collected all their studio and officially released albums first, and it was about 12 years later that I got into collecting tapes. Of the officially released albums, Anthem was the first to really turn me on, and I still think its great. Coming from a background of listening to British and German prog/heavy/psych bands, Anthem seemed more accessible. As opposed to more conventional sounding albums, like Working Mans Dead, for example, which sounded more like trad American music. It all worked out in the end.

being released. Hope they do the same with Aoxomoxoa. If you get the 50th Anniversary + the Golden Road versions of the 1st album, you also have the original release (50th) plus the restored tracks to their original length (Golden Road). With the 50th releases of Anthem and Aoxomoxoa, hopefully both versions will be there. Kudos. Very nice cherry with some very rare 1967 stuff. Only the 2nd full show from that year, and the other is on the 30 Trips.

The funny thing about my experience whith this recording (Aoxomoxoa) is that the first copy that I had it was an American vynil that a older brother bought to me while he was studying in New York in the early eighties. It was the remixed version. A few years after, in a local record store sale, I saw a cassete tape of Aoxomoxoa that named the band "The Greatful Dead', it turned to be the original mix, it was way different. And that was in the mid to late eighties.I suppose, that Warner Europe released a tape using a copy of an old original vynil or something like that. Lately, I have bought the vinyl collection box, and I have to say that the original Aoxomoxoa recording is way different to the remixed version. Tbe original AOS isn't that different. Now, how much copies of these recordings I bought? I don't know for sure...

I'd listened before to Mars Hotel, Blues for Allah, Europe 72. But for me that during a long time only listened to official albums, the holy grail, or trinity, were AOTS, Aoxomoxoa and Live Dead. Later Workingman's, and American Beauty. But those three records had the best representation of the most innovative music by this band.

Just listened to 7/7/89 Blow Away. Wow, that's a great song!

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At Peaches Records in Atlanta around 1976, I ran across a new LP of Anthem that had the white background on the cover, which is how the original cover painting looks, according to an interview with Jerry Garcia. Stupidly, I didn't buy it, since I already had the album. I still shake my head at my lack of sense in letting it go by. I guess I assumed that would be the new standard cover art, that the inaccurate blue background had finally been corrected. On the other hand, I am overjoyed that Phil's 1971 remix is finally going to be on CD. I had been hoping and praying for that, as the anniversary approaches. The irony about all this is that the remix is being touted as "the one everyone is familiar with," which is only true in the vinyl world. Since it came out on CD just a little over a decade after the LP remix version, using the original 1968 mix for the CD, the 68 mix was at first the novelty of the CD, and interesting to hear, but it's now been the standard version on CD for over 3 decades. I'll bet more fans are used to the original mix after all these years. I've always preferred Phil's remix, and I am overjoyed that we can have it on CD. I like the acoustic guitar on That's It For The Other One instead of just the organ, I like the closer-up drums that kick off the live portions, and I like the full ending on Born Cross-Eyed instead of the fadeout. The bonus track of Cross-Eyed on the Rhino reissue a few years ago added a much different final ending, much longer with more feedback, so I'm glad to have it done "right." This is a joyful occasion indeed!