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  • billy the kiddd
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    1968 The Great Northwest tour box set

    It's comming, some of the tapes are in the vault, the rest are in Owsleys boxes. It's gonna be a knockout!

  • Dennis
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    Daverock and Hawkwind and No Experience Vinyl

    Hey Dave, got email from Experience vinyl's christmas sale. I saw they had a Hawkwind LP for preorder (we are looking in on you too). Thought it might interest you.

    Further note, I laughed when they show 3 from the vault being released in two day!!!! (right)

    1 and 2 pushed back till next year (again)!!!

    And the hits keep coming!

  • hendrixfreak
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    What is the format and timing for a '68 release?

    Just an exercise to see if my logic is still working... (Admittedly, there's a short distance between "logic" and "rationalization.")

    Releasable shows from '66 to '68 must be considerably rarer than the rest of the '69 to '95 period. Strategically, for the long haul, Dave wants to preserve a few "surprises" from '66 to '68 -- whether that really serves the "legacy" or just the business of the legacy. Yet when an unusual tape is uncovered (think 18 April '70) Dave has shown interest in kicking up dust with a release outside of the annual box and DaP series.

    I see three basic avenues for '68 release(s) or other oddball tapes (think MG's now-near-forgotten stash return): the annual box, DaP, and one-off RSD or just a special one-for-the-fans. (Although I was underwhelmed when they coupled a '68 release with that cartoon history book. C'mon! Why dangle a '68 to sell effin' cartoons??)

    If it's a box, do we think that Rhino is going to green light a more focused version of the porch crusher and go with a 10-CD collection of '66-'70? (That's what I wanted and they threw in '71-'95.) You know they're not going to release a 20-CD box from that span.

    A 3-disc DaP would seem friendly to, say, two or three '68 shows and I'd soil my diapers for that route.

    Or they do a one-off with the newly discovered June '68 tape from Owsley's banana boxes; even a short, limited edition release would cover its costs and reinvigorate the die-hards (that's us) belief in the almighty Vault's potential. OR (coffee!!) TPTB let the OSF release '68 GD.

    The recent MSG box demonstrates that there's plenty of great rock 'n roll in the Vault, but what percentage is really of keen historical interest, by which I mean transitional shows early in the band's development? I think it's telling that Dave commented, I think, on the PNW box (might be another box) that he proposed a 10-12 CD set and Rhino said make it a 20-CD set -- so the latter must be a sweet spot for production margins, meaning profit. (Ah, the word "profit"! I have no hang-up with that: no profit, no Vault releases.)

    So I see a potential '68 release(s) as a one-off in the DaP series or a special release. And I think it's key to create some Vault-related "excitement" because here's my personal calculus: I'm 65. Been a devoted customer of the recordings since 1971, live shows from '72 to '92 (so, 50+ years). Quit the scene in '87 after the band (Jer) ran out of steam and at age 30 I was actually evolving -- not mutating, just evolving... Over time, as with Jimi, the ABB and other favorites, the recordings replaced the defunct band as my foci. But as you may surmise from my recent news, I am switching gears and considering new ways of approaching life. In other words, if Dave is planning another, say, 15+ years of releases, shouldn't they front-load it with those great, transitional early shows? 1966 is fun, but '67 and '68 are typically ferocious. Will I still care about '68 tapes in five years? In 2027, the band will have been defunct for 32 years. I know the "kids" (20s and 30s today) love this stuff but I don't think they "get" '68. Just a guess.

    So many roads, so many words, when I could have just said: More '68, NOW!

  • dmcvt
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    Fancy boxes, 1968

    Here's another vote for simple packages, i.e. like Winterland box sets. Three-four show runs with 10-12 discs priced under $100 postpaid. Simple. Bet they would sell well, easier to produce. Shelf space is an issue here, as much as might like the fancy boxes with extras, they just sit on a shelf, its all about the music. On CD. Speaking of which and in HF reference to 1968, how about that Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm 9-2-68, Sky River Rock Festival show.

  • Nick1234
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    Daverock

    😊

  • Nick1234
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    HF I agree. All that packaging crap is one of the reasons that I rarely buy the boxes these days. The Winterland boxes are classy, really nice, easy to store and use, let's go back to that format. And why are they so expensive? Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue box was 14 discs for £50.

  • daverock
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    That was never a goal

    Nevertheless, I am sure I speak for football fans the world over when I say I hope... Japan win.

    I think the England team are benefitting from the fact that no alcohol is allowed in the stadiums. They play much better sober.

  • proudfoot
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    Songbird is indeed a phenomenal song.

    It can be interpreted from multiple perspectives.

  • Nick1234
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    What's going on?

    Belgium out, Germany out, England score 6 and then 500 on the first day. What's going on?

  • hendrixfreak
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    Feelin' bett-uh

    Vibes much appreciated, trust me.

    Hey, I ordered the new Petty 4-CD box Monday, it just landed. It is a model of minimal packaging while still being a fun package. I know that Dave & Co. love to work up each year's box and I have no complaints, I have argued that the effort on the packaging lends dignity to the music release. But environmentally I wonder whether a new more minimalist approach would be welcomed on GD boxes.

    Just a thought... Hitting the couch now. Many thanks for the support.

    DMCVT: look for a gray-ish shirt with tiny white dots! Gawd, that was an experience, especially at my age back then.

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It's a good thing there is a new thread to comment on. I was not going to let that disrespect of the Second Set of Augusta slide. Tragedy narrowly averted.

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The lights are supposed to be out in this room.

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I spent the last week and a half with my parents.. at one point I had to pull out a Garcia quote from, I think, Harpur College, 1970..

"Now, now kids, don't fight." It worked perfectly until one of them asked for their allowance.

Once they turn out lights and everybody leaves.. it's so much easier to fire up a fattie. Just saying.

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Don’t make me come down there!

Once while home with pops before he went into assisted living…usually after I’d get him his dinner/meds etc, and he’d go to bed early. That was my time to make a fire in the basement family room, put on some dead, spark up, and finally be able let it all go and relax.
Well one day just as I’m getting ready to fire up, I hear this huge crash and then hear all this yelling and banging etc. Turns out he got up for some reason and the rug slipped out off the hardwood floor and he fell and split the top of his head open. Needless to say we called 911, which sucked, but would have been a whole lot worse if I’d just fired up and had tunes playing lol.
Besides making him wait in ER all night, he just needed a few stitches and he was fine. The upshot was that it lead him to decide to go to assisted living. He Being a safety consultant, I’d been trying to work the whole “it’s not safe being alone anymore” and “what if I hadn’t been here” angle on him. This unfortunate incident finally, literally, knocked some sense into him ; )

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Reminds me of childhood vacations

The rents and four kids in an old station wagon on a cross country trip...

We never made it out of the neighborhood before somebody would fart, then immediately got punched in the arm.. Mayhem would always ensue and with either end with a parent reaching his/her arm to be back seat and smacking the crap out of someone or god forbid pull over. .... and that's how it would usually begin....

Let's not even get into the tunes... FM radio at it's finest.

I was around for the poorer part of family life and never went on vacations.

My younger brother and sister went every year. (at some point mom said they were going away every year no matter what!,,,, I was 16 and working so I didn't go.

Years later my sister was singing along to some of the Polish Prince (Bobby Vinton), and I was like how you know this shit. Turned out the old man made a 6 or so 8 track tapes with a recorder I bought him. On these road trips they would listen to those tapes over and over and over. Sorry NO FM radio!!!

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The smell of a freshly lit Parliament cigarette is good.
Not so much after the parents exhaled that first puff.
AM radio only in our cars then, and it was never on.
Same trip every year. Always on or near July 4. Virtually all fireworks were legal then, even M-80s. St. Louis to the Ozarks, then to Van Buren, MO where the other G-pa lived. Big Spring State Park was cool. And floating on the Current River (now part of the Mark Twain Nat'l. Riverway), very clear water and you could see to the bottom. Now all you can see is beer cans down there.
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Ha,1stShow, I canoed the Current and the Buffalo several times ca. early '70s with my scout troop out of the Chicago suburbs. What gorgeous water. Like you say, so incredibly clear. For the record, you could see a whole lot of beer cans on the bottom back then! It's a strong memory. Like good scouts we were wondering if any them were full! And then all the cool caves, including one you could canoe into.
A blue Ford Country Squire wagon was the family vehicle in the late 60s into early 70s. Some raucous cross country trips with the siblings in the back of that beast.. No memory of the radio though.

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My cousin is renovating the farm. Can't be sold except to the N.S.R.
G-pa's Rexall store was right on the river in Van Buren. (pop. 723)
Bob the black lab sat in a rocker on the porch "counting cars".
The side of the family that had bootleggers. I'm so proud!
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