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    18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

    We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

    For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • Atron
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    DaP 40 (7185) makes it to the maritimes.

    Pretty much a week ahead of schedule as per the other releases this year, on a day off no less. Had a full spin and a half through. This is my first subscription and I have to say I am very impressed, a few in and out of the box picks, filling in some holes in my collection. Different flavours, a great selections of tunes. Maybe too early to make an informed call but #40 might be my favourite. Glad they kept the DrumsSpaces intact, I love all the MIDI madness.

    How would you folks rank the 2021 picks?

    Looking forward to 2022.

    Take care.

  • unkle sam
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    pheew loud

    Seen a lot of them
    Loudest, can't say, Black Sabbath loud and heavy, like a barbell on your ears
    Foghat, believe it or not, these guys could rock and rock, down front, nothing but sweat and sweet loudness
    Thin Lizzy, started the show with Jailbreak, 4th note blew out the fuses 20 mins later back but not as loud
    The Who, very loud, even in a stadium but not ear shattering
    Saw a band recently who opened for Captain Beyond, can't recall their name but everyone, everyone, even me and I'm almost deaf, left the venue, just ear bleeding loud that almost made you barf, Captain Beyond was great, Bobby Caldwell is still out there playing those great songs.
    Ted Nugent, he sucked but it was sooo loud, nasty loud Brownsville Station opened that day, then Mahogany Rush, then Cheap Trick, then Ted, everybody was better than nugent. Talk about the neighborhood complaining, not only was it loud, it was nugent
    Saw a band named Nektar back in the 70's, loud but clear as a bell, great light show all though the sound may have been compromised by the venue, basically a tuna can.
    Agree about the good old Dead, they were loud but really good loud, and clear as a bell, love that Mac sound even today. Zero distortion
    Spirit in 1974 at the Peabody Auditorium in Daytona Beach, Loud Spirit of 76 and then Kaptain Kopter music, raunchy in your pants loud.
    Uriah Heep in 1970 very loud competing with Deep Purple that wah-wah on Gypsy was incredibly loud, still remember the front rows being literally pushed back by the sound
    Im sure there are more, just the ones I can remember right now loud seemed to be "in" back in the 70's

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    '79 - Saw Twisted Sister in the Gemini, a bar on the west side of the Hudson River. Stood right in front of the right hand side speaker stack. Could not hear much for the better part of a week
    Rock on

  • daverock
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    Poor sound

    I couldn't objectively verify it, but I would think the quality of the sound was quite poor for all those loud British hard rock bands I saw in the mid 70s. Maybe I just got used to it, but I saw quite a few punk bands around 1976-1977, and I can't remember ever thinking they were particularly loud. Similarly with the next wave of bands - Echo and The Bunnymen for example - I never came out deaf like I did in 1973.

    The Dead weren't noticeably loud in 1981 - loud enough and a very clear sound. I saw both Black Sabbath and Deep Purple in 2017 after a 40 odd year gap, and again, I didnt think about ther sound at all - it was probabaly much better than it was in the 70's.

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    Late as always, lost internet!!!!

    I'm always amazed at peoples memory. I couldn't think of a 'loudest" show. Dead show were always "loud", but as HF points out there's a difference between loud noise and loud clarity. Dead were always top shelf for my years (80's) in the sound system department. Saw Peter Gaberial for his tour in 83? Outdoor amphitheater, we were maybe in the 20th row about middle,,,,, GREAT sound, full and clear, sounded just like the live album turned up.

    Anyway, last night I remember a show, and the damn thing wasn't that long ago, but that memory.......

    Lockn a few years back finished one night with My Morning Jacket. They came out ear blistering loud, that level of loud you'd swear had blood coming out your ears. The crowd thin fast. I just stood there and faced the music as it were. Now I'm pretty green at this point, but I get a focus on the sound and to me it was this HUGE cloud of distortion, LOUD, but then I finally hear at the heart of this cloud of white, this guy playing a clean guitar line, that is crystal clear and a bright light at the center of white and this cloud is huge, in my mind it's a 60' high sphere.

    And while he's climaxes in the jam, the sound sucked down to a human size piano and him playing (crystal clear, no distortion field), I like to teach the world to sing......

    THAT was a moment, that was loud.

    Maybe it was the green!!

    I learned the song was "steam -> Teach the world to sing"

    A couple of years later on some college station, I heard he was touring again with the "distortion" tour, but without the distortion,,,, called it clarity or some such. I thought maybe it wasn't all green :-)

  • proudfoot
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    Ol' Man Jenkins is currently listening to...

    Metallica's "Justice" on my phone.

    I feel the energy without PAIN.

    My lawn is mighty green...

  • hendrixfreak
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    My conclusion

    Okay, so high volume goes with rock and electric blues, yet there's a crucial difference. As John Hammond Jr. once told me about seeing Hendrix after the latter's career had taken off, "too loud is too loud." The bands long ago indulged in it and, not knowing any better as a young person, I went along for the ride. But over the years (yes, I'm old now -- but only if you're young) it's become clear that loudness alone can really spoil the music. If you can't hear what's going on, or the volume is so high that it becomes an issue in itself, then the musical artistry is lost and pointless. I see this in local venues that are known for being "loud." The volume is simply too high to relax and enjoy the music; the volume becomes an issue in itself. And, to be sure, I like loud music. So I was always, er, grateful, that my favorite bands -- the GD, ABB and The Band -- back in the day were into quality sound systems, though that didn't necessarily account for the venues and their acoustics. Among them, as far as I know, the GD were the only ones who plowed significant resources, constantly, into the science of their amplification medium to achieve the cleanest live sound they could get. That to me says alot about this band.

    And the thing is, "too loud is too loud" was true when I was young. I was just too young and too stupid to move when it was an issue.

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    again from ol' man Jenkins

    I like rock n roll
    I like the energy
    I like the grooves
    I like the riffs

    But if I want to attend a show by a band, I do not want my eardrums ASSAULTED. (I just flashed on the sequence in 2001 where Bowman is shaking in his helmet).

    I never experienced PAIN and "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" during or after a GD show.

    I'll just listen to my stuff on my front lawn...stay off, you punks!

    JENKINS NATION!

  • KeithFan2112
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    Loudest Band

    Couple ways if looking at it in my mind, and I am biased due to my stake in this discussion: 1) the bands are loud because they love it loud and they hit a dB mark that happens to distinguish them; and 2) same as #1, except they're aware of the "bad-assery" of being the loudest band, so they kick it up a few dBs to take the crown.

    I've been a major Who fan since I was 10 yrs old, hence my stake in this discussion. I heard along the way that The Who were renowned for being in the Guinness Book of World Records as the loudest band in the world. That was some bad-assery I passed on to many a Who nonbeliever.

    Maybe this is commented on already - I haven't read far enough back in the posts to see where the discussion began. The history of it is, Deep Purple, who I believe falls into category #1, set the record originally, I guess in the early 70s.

    The Who had been a notoriously loud band throughout the 60s and 70s, and were commonly regarded as the loudest band in the world, if only because Pete Townsend said so (and had the hearing loss to prove it). Eventually Guinness sought them out and caught them at the end of their 1976 tour at Charlton. They broke Deep Purple's record and held it for the rest of their pre-Farewell Tour career.

    Sometime after that I believe things get sketchy, because bands were falling into category number two, where they kicked it up a few notches to gain the notoriety of being the loudest band in the world. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone held the record as long as The Who, and because there was a shot at making Guinness, I think there were bands who didn't really come by it honestly. So I'm going with The Who :D

  • simonrob
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    The loudest band in the world... Allegedly.

    Grand Funk Railroad headlined a free concert in Hyde Park in July 1971. They were advertised as being the loudest band in the world. It would have made no sense to try and promote them on the basis of their musical prowess. Almost nobody in England had any idea who they were. Heads, Hands and Feet were the opening act who I remember nothing about, unfortunately. Maybe I arrived too late and missed them. Second up was Humble Pie with one Peter Frampton on guitar. A great performance, they ensured that GFR would never be able to top that and indeed they didn't. An endless selection of standard riffs seemed to be all they were capable of. The world's loudest? Hard to say because it was outdoors in a park.

    I think I only saw Deep Purple once and mercifully that was also outdoors so my ears were spared. I remember little about it due to being chemically compromised at the time. It was either 1970 or 1971.

    The loudest band I ever heard (indoors, naturally) was Black Sabbath in May 1970. People living miles away complained about the noise which gives an idea of the volume levels involved.

    There were other gigs that resulted in hearing problems the following day but I can't remember them all.

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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I will always remember this as the release where Dave got his first remote control. I suspect he is playing with it at this very moment.. hey look.. when I press this button the little red light on the recorder across the room comes on. Is this thing recording? Great Scott!! it is recording! This button records in slow motion, I can make my own 6 million dollar man videos. Look, Squirrel.. This thing is great.. hey mom, check this ooote, I taught it to turn the TV on and off. (note to self, delete the video of the squirrel and mom before I send it to Pinkus).

Wow.. I don't have to clap to turn the lights on and off anymore.

Looking forward to this, especially the Desolation Row.. I guess I have a soft spot for this song, how did Bobby remember the words for this time after time but Truckin', forget about it...

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These latest releases have really got me high. Can it get any better than this? The ST. Louis box and this Dave's 40 is really hitting the GD spot, thanks to all who participate in this never ending constantly evolving music that is the Grateful Dead.

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These shows are a welcome surprise to me, and a needed one. After the monster box set we just got, it is great that we are going to the 90s with Brent. I like that my future listening will be comprised of great shows from the 70's abd then the 90's, merely for the change up. The vault still has a lot to offer, and Dave and company keep giving it to us.

Now I say great shows because in regards to the 7/18 & 7/19 I have not heard them. However, I will take everyone's word that these shows are great. It also nice to see that many heads that have commented here and elsewhere where at these shows. I think it is safe to say the 89-91 time period was a sweet spot for the band and these shows fall in the middle of it, even if these shows are part the end of an era with Brent. I only wish I was on the bus a few years earlier so I could have seen the band then.

Also any time we get 2 complete shows for one Dave's Pick, that is always great. The more Grateful Dead that is released, the better. I think initially that was never in the plans, but it seems like they took the great responses to double 87 show release and applied it. Maybe this will open the door to a double summer of 85 show Dave's Pick. That would be cool too.

I am really looking forward to hearing these Deer Creek shows.

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It should just be made available as a download.
It can’t be filler next year on a release if the release is not a Brent show. I like Brent but don’t want a DaP that ends with 20 minutes of Pigpen grease then goes into a 90’s Useless Blues.
Just saying. It would be a jolt.

I’m looking forward to these, I got 7-19 on cassette in the summer of 92 and it was one of my better sounding cassettes at the time. Played it so much back then that I rarely play the digital copy I currently have.

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That's exactly what I thought.. make it a download and call it a day. Perhaps it's cheaper to just toss it at the end of a CD than setup a webserver to make a download available.., but I'm with you cone kid.

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Would be another great twofer. Better yet a West Coast 90 box that also includes Carson, Cal Expo, and the other two Shoreline shows. The bridge between the legendary Spring 90 and Summer 90. Every one of those are top notch.

A non butchered RFK 90 would be nice. Why they used that for filler on the RFK 91 release instead of getting it's own release, for perhaps the biggest show of summer 90 was an odd decision. The same for 9/20/90. The first sets from those shows are amazing.

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Considering they were a blues band for the 1st part of their existence I’ll take useless blues all day long

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My bet is he'll include it as part of 30 Days. He couldn't say so outright as that would be too much of a Dead giveaway.

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Sometimes encores only make sense in the context of the show in which they are played in. If this is such a one, and I suspect it is, maybe it would be better left alone. Better if it could have been included in the release of the recording of the show -but as it can't-no great loss.

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I generally agree with that, but being it as it may that we are now in the digital era, one could simply insert the encore into their DaP 40 folder for 7-19-90 and the context is thusly restored... :-)

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Somewhere along the line Dave mentioned that if it's a good show, and the tapes are in shape, the show will be released. So I knew it was just a matter of time for July 18 to come down the pipe. And Voilà! Here we go..... And wouldn't you know, this past summer while at Deer Creek seeing Phish, I found myself talking to a head about what a great venue Deer Creek is-- when you are seeing a show there, you know there is no other place on this earth you would rather be. Which is great, great feeling. We were also both in agreement that the first night of the run was a 'grateful dead' show. Truly. 7/18/90 specifically came to mind.

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I never made it to Deer Creek, but it looks like I'll be going back in time at least in the space between my ears. And I'm all for it. After another 70's box (man am I loving this one!), a shift to the 90's is totally in order. Something for the folks who prefer later-era Dead having only had those experiences, and something for those of us like myself who enjoy all the eras.

I love this series. Whenever I think the annual subscription or box set announcements are coming, I check the site multiple times a day so I can immediately place the order, and relax, knowing I won't be missing out or paying overinflated reseller prices (Ticketbastard, anyone?) for some of the best music in the world.

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This entire tour was great. It seemed like the Dead were really hitting their stride when tragedy struck. I thought this tour should have been the boxed set over the Spring. It's nice to see a couple of these shows finally see the light of day.

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Anyone else think that when I ask for certain shows and complain about others, my brothers and sisters three states away are loving those shows I am complaining about??
I’m sorry, but we Heads are so blessed, it seems we lose all perspective at times. There are a small handful of Dave’s that I wasn’t pleased with and don’t play anymore, but I just set those aside and play the ones I do enjoy.
Also, I agree with almost everyone that it is a real kick to have a show that I attended be released. I’ve had this happen with other bands, but not the Dead(yet).
I look forward to receiving this one, with the knowledge that if I don’t love it, I don’t have to play it a second time. There’s too much music out there for me to waste time complaining about the tiny fraction I’m not in love with.
It’s like the girl you dated once, and decided that was enough, time to date someone else.

Rant officially over. Peace and love to all.
Thanks Dave!!

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This one (7/18) happens to be my sister's 15th birthday show. Not a raving dead head like we though...

P.S. edit... The shows the GD played on my birthday (that there are tapes of) are 1970, 1978, 1986, 1992 and 1993. Can anyone guess the day? A little brain teaser for y'all on a Sunday... :-)

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Yes, Mr. Ones. Totally.. Great point.

I'd hardly call that a rant, the comment was noticeably polite.

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The Grateful Dead played 5x on my birthday: 12/15/71, 12/15/72, 12/15/78, 12/15/86, and 12/15/94. I went to the show on 12/15/86, it was Garcia's first show back , the Dead played great and the place was rockin!

I can indeed say it is a thrill to have a show you attended released. I was lucky enough to be seeing shows from what some (most) call the last peak era of dead (1989-90) and so, I have had numerous shows I was at released in some form (video, CD, etc). Giants '89, Alpine '89, my Spring '90 stops (Hartford, Copps, Atlanta), Pittsburgh '90 (with some KY added), Copps '92, and now these from Deer Creek. Very cool. If you count Meet Up at the movies, a couple more (more Alpine '89 and Foxboro '89).

Was also fortunate enough to see the Dead on my birthday, which I share with Pig (9/7 and 9/8 in Richfield) for my 21st. No better way to turn 21. Also got the 9/8/73 release this year. To my knowledge, Dead on my birthday: '67, '69 (OK, 9/7, but they had to go after midnight, yes?), '73 (released this year), '83 (Red Rocks), '85 (OK, 9/7 but maybe after midnight?, Red Rocks again), '87 (9/7, 9/8, 9/9 Providence), '88 (Spectrum), '90 (Finally able to go), '91 (MSG), and '93. Possibly In Room in '65. Again, fortunate. Wasn't really able to road trip for most of them as school was in.

MR Ones: glad you received your box, good comment, interpreted no rant.
It’s like someone? Billy? said once about playing certain songs: if even one person didn’t want to play it they wouldn’t. Figured there were so many songs they actually wanted to play, why bother otherwise.
I love everything they’ve given us, but I do feel sometimes Dave picks the right neighborhood and street, but goes to the wrong house…

BDAY SHOW: 11/9/79 only one : (

ENCORES;US Bloooozzzzeee. Sure it’s nice to get complete shows, but we have soooooo much music out now that I don’t mind occasionally missing a song or 2.
LOL, except for perhaps messing with the flow, I wouldn’t miss a Me and My Uncle now and again ; )
Perhaps he has plans next year for another late 80 or 90 show to tack that onto, and not just wherever there’s space for it?
I rip the discs then store them, so I wouldn’t mind it showing up randomly though. Dead air is Dead air, I’ll take all the music he wants to give us! Loving the twofer again to end the year. Hopefully we’ll see more!

The Creek. Never made it. From tour scuttle, didn’t seem like head friendly place to be?
BITD, that I 90 drive through Ohio, Indiana and Illinois could be pretty scary. Ohio State patrol would pull ya for going 1 or 2 over the limit, and that was in the 55 days. Excruciating for a young Cassady wanna be lol.
Nassau always seemed to be referred to as the unfriendliest head scene, what with the po po basically trolling to Fill the dungeons they built below, probably just for heads!

I liked summer 90, but it felt like they had peaked in the fall 89 and spring 90, and though summer was a great tour, it felt like something was a tad different? But tge band was definitely at a high water mark and it’s interesting to think what might of been if ole Brentski hadn’t checked out?

EDIT: what about 7/12/90? That puppy needs to see the light of day fo sho!

DBL EDIT: after perusing summer 90 shows, perhaps my above thought was influenced more by “history” and some limited notion, than reality, cause there were some shows! So if these truly are the best of the tour, that’s saying something!

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Everyone loves to get shows they were at!
To me it adds a level of excitement knowing you were there, even if you can’t remember LOL

- 11/9/79 p/o (part of)
- 9/2/80 p/o
- 4/15/83 (2 songs/bonus material)
- 10/14/83
- 7/4/86 (Farm Aid etc)
- 3/26&27/87
- 7/4/87? (D&D?)
- 3/27/88
- 7/2/88
- 4/2&3/89
- 7/4/89
- 7/17/89
- 10/8&9/89
- 3/20&21/90
- 3/24, 25, 26/90
- 6/16/90
- 6/20/91 and 6/19/91 p/o
- 3/20/92
- 6/23/92 (1 song)
- 7/9/95 (1 song)
With 7/16/90 Shakedown stream, and bits of 6/9/91…

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....may the four winds blow him safely home.
The only officially released Dead show I attended is View From The Vault 1. Anaheim.
There are a few Phish ones.

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My fathers birthday was 12/15 (1929). This vein of the family seems to like the 15th. I'm 1/15,,, my son is 6/15 and Dad was 12/15.

It's a nice middle of the month date.

Anyone ever had shingles or shingles vax?

I juuuust now got the first shingles vax.

Youch!

I understand shingles is to be avoided

Dad hadem
Brother hadem
I dont wantem

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Ain't ya gonna listen to it again? I always wondered that.

Anyway, be well all. :-)

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Let me see..

10-9-76
12-29-77
12-31-77( bonus disc closing of Winterland)
10-21-78
12-31-78
12-26-79
12-28-79
12-30-79(Road Trips bonus)
10-9-80

JGB: Bay Area '78

I think that's it; can't think of any other post 1980 Bay Area release. Until they release Greek '81 or Frost '82.

43 years ago tonight: 1st "From Egypt with Love" show - great run!

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Ok, color me a lil jealous... Holy cow. Wow! Them's are some good shows to hit...

Any photos. Memories?

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After finally going through both Spring '90 boxes in order this spring, I started wondering what other treasures lurked in 1990, so just a few weeks back I finally cued up 7/16/90, which always appears near the top of the "favorites" lists . . .

That show kills it, so these two shows, which immediately follow that one, should rock hard!

And yes, Hit, I wonder if Summer '90 isn't a titch better than the spring tour . . .

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No photos - only memories, mostly music related.
12/29/77: loudest cheer I've heard when they broke out China Cat, even louder than the Dark Star the following year. Dance floor was literally bouncing, and plaster was coming off the walls.
12/31/78: longest show ever, got there around 6 right for Animal House showing. Left around 8 the next morning, our car was one of three left in Winterland's "parking lot", if you can call it that. I had found street parking nearby earlier, but was heavily "discouraged" by a local resident
10/21/78: loudest Jerry ever for the wind up at the end of The Other One, and the following beautiful Stella Blue.
Nothing else stands out except the shows themselves; we were local, so getting to and from the shows was uneventful, which was fine by me.

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I hope that they remaster and re release some of the Dick's Picks: 2/13 & 14/70, 5/2/70, the 1968 Lake Tahoe shows, and others. I would much rather have these put out as complete shows, cleaned up and remastered, then any shows from the 1980s or 1990s.

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Turned on the oldies station to give my wife her fair share of audio time and the first song up was Elvis' Suspicious Minds with Donna and the rest of the Muscle Shoals crew really belting it out on background vocals. She is easily picked out as the loudest (on key!) and most distinctive background singer on this and I think some other Elvis tunes as well. Next song, Hair. With the reference: it's not for lack of bread... like the Grateful Dead. We are, and were, everywhere. Cheers

Proudfoot- a no brainer to do the Shingrix. We got ours in January with zero side effects. The wife had done the previous one a few years ago and was told the Shingrix is much more efficacious and long lasting which apparently the first one was not. Smart move.

Unbelievable list of released shows Cousins.. I can only imagine there are a few you have seen that were not released that were equally amazing, thinking especially some of the small venue JGB shows. Still, some of these are legendary.

BTK, could not agree more. I would love to see some of them remastered too, as I think they have gotten better at that.

Were we talking birthday shows on this thread too?? I get them confused. Got to see one show on my birthday (a Hampton) and missed one by that much (Morgantown, saw the night before).. why I didn't take the drive the next day I still cannot figure out.

I think I have seen four (?) shows that have been released. I had some great, up close pictures, but they disappeared during my last move. So great memories and in a way I came of age seeing the GD. Learning how to negotiation my life and still see shows, I certainly learned how to read a road map and drive across the country, a skill that is lost in the younger generation.. how to fend for myself when the vehicle broke down in the strangest of places under the strangest of circumstances.. made some great friends and had a great time.

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I agree that I'd love to have some of the "partial" releases released in full. A lot of the early Dick's were not full shows. 2/13-14/70 would be sweet. But those 2 (plus 2/11) seems like a box set rather than a Dave's. Too many discs. I guess you could do them one at a time, but most of the show is already out (Dick's #4 + Bear's Choice). Still, I am with you, there is a lot of territory that I'd like to see released in full that has only been partially released (2/13-14/70, 10/16-20/74, 4/25-29/71, 7/17-19/89, 6/26&28/74, Dick's #3, etc). Again, some of that is more box set than a single release. And for some, most of the show has already been released, so a Box would allow more new stuff in there.

FWIW, those King's Beach shows on Dick's #22 are the full shows. Both nights. 5/2/70 is pretty darn close. I can recall something about 1 song the tape was unusable (Cold Rain). Other than the cut at the beginning of St. Stephen, everything else is there.

Dave has been throwing more filler on his releases lately. Usually some from a night at the same venue or some such. But I wouldn't mind using filler to "complete" some previous releases. He said he was going to do that with the US Blues encore from the 2nd night Deer Creek. Finish up 5/22/77!

As for 2/13 & 2/14. both 2nd sets appear in full on Dick's #4 save for the 2/13 Bid You Goodnight. The only song from either early show that has been released in the Dark Star from 2/14 (LST). A tad less than half of the acoustic sets is on Bear's Choice. A little of the short Electric 1st sets on either Bear's or DiP#4.

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Went to the Atlanta Dead Co show. No encore that night and people bitched. There was an encore planned that was blacked out on the official set list. Setlist.fm suggests that it was to be US Blues - maybe so maybe not - but either way so what?! We got an 18.5 minute Shakedown, a 15 minute Let it Grow, 10 minute Deal, a 20 minute Playin in the Band (including the reprise) and a 28.5 minute China>Rider. I'll take the extra helping of jam over a US Blues encore any day! I will apply that logic to this release as well!

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My only b-day show was my 21st at Riverport - 7/27/94. My (now) wife and I celebrated her 21st the year before at Deer Creek - 6/23/93. She got the better show (Terrapin>D/S>Dark Star>Wheel with Jerry out for all of D/S as I recall!). Funny thing though, no one asked to see our IDs when we ordered drinks anyway.

My buddy has been couch touring and raved about this show.

He sent me a copy this morning and I plan on listening tonight at the store.

I agree with you, I'd take a 20 minute playing over a us blues :-)

FYI - the Joni Mitchell vinyl lp's pushed back from 10/31 to 2/15,,,, quite a pushback.

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the only time i saw them on my bday was the hampton 86 box of rain break out, that was pretty cool, i was a little tired and chillin' high up in coliseum cuz i had had a big night there on 3/19

Cold Rain was on the vinyl edition of 5/2/70 that came out a few years ago. If you haven't heard it, you have missed nothing. I think it was deliberately left off the Dicks Picks cd because it was so out of tune. They did things like that in the early days of Dicks Picks

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Cousins, you did most of the research for me, with your list, as I was at those shows, also. I would add:

8/25/72
10/16-20/74
10/10/76
6/7-9/77
10/21-22/78
10/10/80

Never fortunate to experience a birthday show.

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Perfect opportunity and place to thank you for making me a copy of 12/10/71 back in...1980, I believe. It was my favorite GD show then, and still is now. Thanks Scott for this one, and other shows you kindly shared with me!

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50 years ago today…..

October 19, 1971
Northrop Auditorium, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minnesota

Set 1: Bertha-Me And My Uncle-Sugaree-Beat It On Down The Line-Cumberland Blues-Tennessee Jed-Black Peter-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Brown-Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Comes A Time-Playing In The Band-One More Saturday Night-Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin'-Ramble On Rose-Me And Bobby McGee-Brokedown Palace-Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Cryptical Envelopment reprise>Wharf Rat-Sugar Magnolia-Uncle John's Band-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Deadicated to jiminMD, dantian, kayakguy, spacebrother, icecrmckd, Sixtus, Jack Baller, Billythekid, alvarhanso, and angry jack straw, because change……….

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!

Doc
He who rejects change is the architect of decay, the only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery………

attended
6/8
6/9 (Cassidy...:))))
6/10
6/23 (the tether show)
6/24

I bet I'll like this release

even though anything after 86 I tend to relegate to "I'll listen someday".

I tried spring 90 bootlegs and just couldn't get into it.

"but I try"

"trip or trip not
there is no try"

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Real Gone Music is having its annual CD sale with several Dick's Picks and Road Trips discounted.

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My pleasure, Pierre. I'll have to dig that one out and give it a listen.

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. . . for $17,640.00 . Per Relix Daily: 'Grateful Dead T-Shirt from 1967 Sells for a Record $17,640 at Auction'. Previous record was a Led Zeppelin tee from Knebworth '79 that sold on eBay for 10K

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...and can you believe it? It's sized too small.

I'm having one of those days.. Deep breath.

Crap, now I spilled coffee on it.

Proves there are just too many people with too much time on their hands.

Edit: No really, it's not me.. it's sized too small.

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5/26/77

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You beat me to it Nitecat. Went to the Real Gone sale to fill in some gaps in my Road Trips collection and only came away with the 6-8-76. Even at sale pricing it was hard to justify paying that much for things I already have on burned copies. But couldn't resist a $6 Willie Nelson and $13 Booker-T & the MG's. It's not so much the CDs that will cost me but the additional furniture to hold them. Most of my GD is currently spread out in three different places including bottom cabinets that make it difficult to read what's there. Honey, can I buy another CD cabinet? Why do you need that? Well there's a lot of Dave's yet to come and I want to be ready. Yeah, that might work! Maybe.
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