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    18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

    We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

    For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Roger Waters had excellent sound in Philips Arena the 3 times that I saw him there.

    D&C had good sound in 2015 (I was 3 rows in front of where I was for Van Halen 2007 in the same seat, aisle, section to the right of the soundboard). D&C sound was far better than VH.
    D&C 2017 sound was even better because I had GA floor and stood in the sound sweet spot for set 2. I was up by the stage for set 1 and the sound seemed muffled.
    There’s video of both.

    Look up DeadFloyd69 on utoob

    The Roger Waters 2017 video on that channel is not from Philips (it was being renovated) but from the minor league hockey arena in the burbs. You can tell how good Water’s sound system is because that video and audio were recorded on an iPhone.

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    ...I asked! Surprising that I had owned at least two of those; Focus-Moving Waves and Hawkwind-Warrior on the edge of Time. Record stores that took trade-ins were like drug dealers, they had me. Tangerine Dream and King Crimson were also favorites from a friend's collection. Renaissance, It's a Beautiful Day too. Genesis also held interest with many great band members. Thank you all for your input. I have some research to do.
    Cheers

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    I did not know Martin was producer on Long Strange Trip...

    That was probably the last documentary I can handle unless there is still a lot of 60's film footage that has never been released; and there may be.

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    A movie that no one asked for

    I guess the surviving members and estates are ok with it...

    but...ugh.

    Do they need the income? I haven't seen Bob Weir at the end of an offramp holding a "will strum guitar for food" sign.

    why would I watch a movie where I get to see Jerry disintegrate again?

    I'll keep cranking up shows like 12/6/73, 6/10/73, etc., thanks.

    THAT'S ALL ON THE SUBJECT FROM ME.

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    I have been meaning to write about sound pressure and stereos or my stereo in particular. I am now shopping for a db or sound pressure meter. My stereo currently has a total of 1350 watts in a slightly under 300 sqft room. Can you crank it all the way up? Not a chance in hell. It allows me to have the headroom to play at much much less volume. The point being, the way I have my set-up, I can feel the music as much or more than I hear it. That is the whole point to me, it is much less sound pressure on the ears, but can make bowel movements much easier. Haha, jk, sorta. I do have proper bass traps deployed to absorb the strong low end, both on the floor and on the wall behind my sweet spot. All of this talking got me thinking, maybe I should actually measure my db level.

    I have an old friend that spent almost 20 years working for Clair Brothers as a traveling sound mixer, and he still mixes loud. (Although I am a Meyer Sound guy, Clair Brothers were the first professional business in sound reinforcement after Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons asked the brothers to go on tour with them in 1966. I may be wrong but to me they rip off the John and Helen Meyer Sound, or maybe they pay a licensing fee.) I am going to track him down and ask him about tinnitus and SPL. Years ago we had a 4 hour debate on line arrays, he was opposed. Then I got him to read about line arrays in an article I posted here six years ago from Prosoundweb. The article was about "Fare The Well" and the latest Meyer Sound line arrays. I think the article was removed as I did not find it last November when we were posting about Don Pearson and Dave's First Show Release (Dave's 36?). I posted part of the article which was on the Meyer Sound site last November.

    Any way, all the talk about volume and my wanting to protect my ears as much as possible, caused me to do some deep thankin.

    1350 watts is about 5% of the WoS Macs etc.

    Dang, I do love the subwoofers and bass. That comes from the respect I have for the Africans love for bass, which caused the overall hz-khz average to move down closer to median or below. There love came in the mid to late 80's with the release of the 808 drum machine. OK enough ramblin, dang my ears are ringing. Anyone of interest can watch 808 on Amazon, a documentary about the machine. Of course Meyer Sound for FTW had multiple banks of 15 and 18" subs. Think it was icecream who said D&C sounded great indoors at Atlanta Stadium???

    Last thing, if you listen to music thru headphones, think about it seriously.

    G

  • icecrmcnkd
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    I don’t know who Jonah Hill is

    I suspect that is to my benefit.
    Guess I’ll find out eventually when Martin cheeses up the Grateful Dead’s good name and reputation.

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    Google Scorsese grateful dead Jonah hill....

    ....when you have time.

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    Another Hawkwind Recommendation

    Hall Of The Mountain Grill, my personal favourite, great songs and some great sounds. Concur with both Quark and Rotter's Club, excellent.

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    Can I add ‘Quark, Strangeness and Charm’ to the Hawkwind list.
    I’d also recommend Hatfield and the North especially ‘The Rotters Club’ and National Health. For the more adventurous I suggest Henry Cow and The Art Bears although Dagmar Krause’s vocals can be an acquired taste (I love them).

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    As Simonrob says, there's plenty of it that barely gets a mention today. I went through a Prog Rock phase in my late teens, but not much of it stuck, but Caravan did, or to be more specific two or three of their albums. They were part of the Cantabury scene that produced Soft Machine, Kevin Ayers, Robert Wyatt and many others. Both "In the Land of Grey and Pink" (1971) and the wonderfully titled "If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You" (1970) are particularly outstanding and their eponymous first album (1968) is also highly regarded by many, although, for me, it's not quite up to the standard of the others. Sadly, after 1971 Caravan went off in a different direction which, aside from the odd bright spot, never really worked for me.

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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Blows Against the Empire
Plunkt.Vert.Plastik - Somet
The Record Company - Play Loud
Otis Redding - Live at the Fillmore
William Parker - Painters Winter and In Order to Survive

Bonus - Terry Reid - Superlungs
Latest Dead - 12/10/71-BK is the man - excellent drumming

Need some very good high value headphones? HiFiMan headphones has been running some excellent clearance sales. Re400 Waterlines were $100 and now can be had for $19 - great for travel and working around the house. Also the HD 400 line - on par with Sennheiser 600. Be sure your orders are available in your part of the world.

Take care ...

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Fav of your 5's - Estimating profs Gary Burton Eberhard Weber Passengers. So good. Saw Gary and Chick in '76 era in Boulder. Fun with Fungi.
Everyone's jazz references have me starting a long put off project dividing all the vinyl into categories. I need to be able to go to what I'm in the mood for, not what I may be lucky to find alphabetically. A heretical thought but it must be done. I just can't remember all that's there anymore.
Starting my next 5 in the ECM label area.
Cheers

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Hudson, Dejonette, Grenadier, Medeski, Scofield
Coltrane - A Love Supreme, Live in Seattle (!!!)
Humble Pie- Live at the Fillmore
DP 34 Rochester, NY 11/5/77
Light into Ashes Lp 10/18/72. :-)

Music filling the days

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50 years ago today…..

October 26, 1971
The Palestra, University of Rochester, Rochester, New York

Set 1: Bertha-Playing In The Band-Sugaree-Me And My Uncle-Tennessee Jed-Big Railroad Blues-Me And Bobby McGee-Cumberland Blues-Cold Rain And Snow-Mexicali Blues-Loser-Beat It On Down The Line-El Paso-Comes A Time-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Truckin'>drums>The Other One-Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to Nugent7453, Lovemygirl, 1stshow70878, CaseyJanes, Born Cross Eyed in 1956, 80sfan, Vguy72, jminner, and woodstock950, because Tuesday’s gone……..

For some reason, there was a weird dip in western New York…………

Solid, if unspectacular, first set, followed by a weirdly short second set. Go figure,,,,,,

For some strange reason, in 2005 it was officially released as part of the Digital Download Series. Go figure…,.,..

Still, the Truckin’ and Other One are nice. Here, Garcia’s tone and approach are different than the usual creamy smooth late 71----ragged, jagged, angry, chaotic. Not first tier, or even second, but still worth an occasional listen…….

Rock on!!

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I'm not so sure I would welcome more 1977, my self. I think I've got all that has been officially released so far. Having said that, I dimly remember both 10/1/77 and 10/2/77 as being shows I liked back in the day. Very long Casey Jones to open the first set at 10/2/77 as I recall.

I wonder if 1972 will be celebrated next year in any way, it being 50 years since it passed. Given the recent box, maybe not. But that is one year I never feel I have too much of. A trip back to the 60s is long overdue, too, of course.

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Notification. Either this is on its way to me and I’m just not going to get an email, or I’m getting royally screwed.

Either way, I’m done with dead.net.
It drives fu%^*++ing crazy

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GD - 6/10/76
Misfits - Static Age
Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
Harvey Mandel - Games Guitars Play
Harvey Mandel - Cristo Redentor

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Otherwise known as our supermodel ex girlfriend. Yea.. she was great but after a while...

I do love and respect 1977 GD and do look forward to 5/26/77 Baltimore getting released, which would make a great season opener.. other that.. Dave, some 1968 please, immediately followed by some 1969. How does that song go, we haven't seen that spirit here since...........

1968 in 2022 or we storm the vault and free the reels.. last warning, we are gathering pitchforks and torches as I write this. 1968 or bust.

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Isn't it cool they still call it "shipping"? You know, like it was going on a ship? Across the water? Anyway...

No shipping for me. Yet. And that's FINE (as mom used to say).

Lately, I seem to get stuff from dead.net about a week after the official release date. I get a shipping (shipping!) notice about two days before the release date, and then it sits in the warehouse for a 3-4 days, and then when it finally starts moving, it gets here in 3-4 days. Could be worse. It kinda surprises me that, being in California, it still takes that long. But, it do.

Ah well. Still working through the StL box anyway. Not to mention Road Trips 4/4, which I ordered when it was on sale at Real Gone, came yesterday. Just kind of filling in a gap in my collection with that one. Listened to disc one yesterday, which was solid.

One man gone and another to go, my old buddy you're movin much toooo slooooooooooow.

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Says mines arriving Friday. I'm really looking forward to this one. I have a couple of decent versions on tape but look forward to an extra crispy copy directly from the masters. It's so sad that these are among the last of Brents performances, but he went down at the top of his musical game. He pushed the band at this time in their history into some truly transcendental jamming. There are other great shows from this tour that should also be released.

The term "shipping" is one modern use of terminology born of of seafaring. Downriggers and those who work the rails in theater still use nautical terminology.

50th of 72 next year should be interesting. The big enchilada being E72 should have some good company from some of those monster Summer shows.

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Hey ADedhed68, haven't gotten my notice either and just like the last 3 releases it seems the show will only be sent out the day of (or a day before) the official release. Super disappointing, I know, but my best success has been to either directly message Marye or write to the Daves Picks Priority Service email. By no means will it hurry it up but at least you can get confirmation that your Dave's Picks is still on the way. Hope this helps quell any worries but I totally feel the frustration :/

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Thanks for your comments man! I appreciate it

Thanks to all of you. I sent Marye a PM

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For some reason, shows from summer of this year tend to be a bit off my radar-apart from you know what. I divide 1972 up into Europe and the New York shows leading up to it, and then Fall. So....definitley a yes for me for a summer 1972 box next year.
Currently listening to 9/24/72, from 30 Trips. I never particularly rated this show - which is a bit perplexing to me now. I don't knpw what I was looking for and didn't find. Maybe it was because the 1967, 68, 69, 70 and 71 shows in the big box ar so transcendent that this one seemed a bit disappointing. Anyway - it hits the spot now. Better late than never.
Friend of the Devil is much more pleasant to me at this faster clip.

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Love the Harvey Mandel in your last 5!! That dude is soooo overlooked. I have about 6-7 of his albums, and they are all fantastic.
Don't need Dave's 40 just yet, I still have 1 '72 show, and 2 '73 shows to plug into my brain.

Music is the Best!!!!!!

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cant believe it's been 30 years since that day. Last 5 have been San Francisco bands in his honor, he did kinda start the whole thing rolling:
Quicksilver Messenger Service Happy Trails
Grateful Dead 50th Anniversary of Skull F@*k
Santana Abraxas
Jefferson Airplane After Bathing At Baxters'
Jefferson Starship Blows Against the Empire
Thank you Bill Graham for that San Francisco sound.

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#41. 12/12 & 13/68 Avalon Ballroom, #42 2/5,6,7/70 Fillmore West, #43. 4/27,28/85 Frost Ampitheatre, #44. 2/9/73 Maples Pavillion.

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I haven't received a notice either.

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to tunnel into the Vault. He's got the right ideas, or at least 3 out of 4 ain't bad. BTW, I have an outstanding bootleg of 10-12-68 that is advertised as from the broadcast, but it sounds more like a soundboard.

Did anyone on this forum ever buy (and receive) the cartoon book ("graphic novel") that included an LP of an October '68 show? (Unsure of the date.)

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here go to The Bill Graham Memorial gig at Golden Gate park???

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....I was busy courting marriage to a psycho. Long story.

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50 years ago today…..

October 27, 1971
Onondaga War Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse, New York

Set 1: Casey Jones-Me And My Uncle-Deal-Jack Straw-Tennessee Jed-Beat It On Down The Line-Sugaree-Playing In The Band-Comes A Time-Mexicali Blues-Big Railroad Blues-Cumberland Blues-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Bertha-Me And Bobby McGee-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Brown Eyed Women-Truckin'-Not Fade Away>drums>jam>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Deadicated to stopbath, sherdeep, Butch, Syracuse78, unkle sam, snoone, seabird17, iGrateful, baltimoretool, and Erikandjenn , because hump day…….

Even an “average1971 show” has its high points…………

Speaking of which, here the Dead start off high. Decent doses of country-western-Weir-Bakersfield. Fine, hard rockin’ conclusions to both sets. Maybe not classic, but certainly worth a listen!

Rock on!!

Doc
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37 years ago today, I was at the B.C.T. for the start of a cool run of shows with the Grateful Dead. Rick Griffin put out a great poster for this set of shows. Going to see the Dead in Berkeley was always nice, because we would go to Everett & Jones B.B.Q. after the show.

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Check Dead Net just opened to preorders but releasing in April of '22 looking very cool! Would love to see those shows also released on streaming platforms but I'll wait. Also Dave revealed Dave's Picks #41 and I should say it is a mighty fine show. Looks like it's gonna be a great year!

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Inquiring minds want to know.

Saw Phish last night. The crowd was high energy (Molly), and they did a nice Sneakin' Through the Alley with Sally, and an Oye Como Va jam. Not too familiar with their tunes, otherwise.
By my count, there were more Dead shirts than Phish shirts.
Vegas is next with a four show run. Recommended. Two thumbs up.

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Boooo!
Oh well, can’t win em all.
Hey,I know Jim’s been waiting on this one so there’s that at least ; )

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I'll never say no to some clean-sounding Spring '77.

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I think I'm going to go ala carte this year. If I find out that Dave's #42 is two shows from 1968, 1969, or 1970, I may jump on board and subscribe.

No, I take no credit.. it was wissinomingdeadhead that pulled this one seemingly out of thin air. I just seconded that emotion.

Good pick. If we get a '74 in the second slot.. well, that would be humorous and formulaic.

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I received my shipping notice...we shall see...

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J/K:

Saw 14 shows of Phish from 95-03.

Been meaning to catch another just haven't done it. They hit Nashville and places around me almost every tour.

The city closest to me is building a $45 million new amphitheater. It is a classic Greek amphitheater like Berkley.

Ben Lovett of Mumford and Sons is the artist representative on the board. A year ago he discussed that this will be one of the greatest musical venues worldwide. He said he has played everywhere around the world from the toilet, i.e. diver bars, to the greatest theaters arenas and stadiums. Paraphrasing at best from memory. The audience is going to be blown away, but the backstage amenities will draw even the biggest of acts. Rumor is Phish will be grand opening act. That would be nice. Who knows this old fart may go psychedelic if that were true (maybe).

If anyone wants to read more, do a search on Mumford and Sons' Bob Levitt discusses new amphitheater.

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Got a shipping notice for DaP 40. Of course, when it will show up is another matter.
I think Listen To The River is splendid!!! I could criticize the flaws and inconsistences. But considering the tapes were made fifty years ago without the intention of producing them commercially, I'll gladly take we have.
Got permission to order Dave's Picks subscription for next year. You folks in relationships know what I'm talking about when I say "permission." ;D
Great time to be a Dead Head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Monday. I am not married I am single. I do have a girl friend with benefits. I don't need permission, but I am very reasonable with myself.

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50 years ago today…..

October 29, 1971
Allen Theater, Cleveland, Ohio

Set 1: Truckin'-Sugaree-El Paso-Loser-Playing In The Band-Brown Eyed Women-Beat It On Down The Line-Brokedown Palace-Jack Straw-Tennessee Jed-Mexicali Blues-Big Railroad Blues-Casey Jones

Set 2: Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Me And My Uncle>The Other One> Cryptical Envelopment>Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Ramble On Rose-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away-One More Saturday Night

Deadicated to rivrain, direwulf, helena buckett, hockey_john, 101874winterland,
rdevil, samthardman, wjonjd, and wharfratwhitey, because the past……

No rough road here, this is a wonderful combination of smooth, rockin’, country/western, and Bakersfield. Fellow rockers, I have to admit I love this show!! It’s one of my great guilty pleasures from late 71, although nobody should feel guilty about liking a show as fine as this!!

Really fine Truckin’ to open the very Bakersfieldish first set. The Dead come charging right out in the second set with a great big jam, and wrap things up nicely with a solid NFA suite followed by Bobby’s new-at-the time rocker One More Saturday Night.

Possibly the best of the October shows, and worthy of official release!!!

Rock on!!

Doc
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40 landed here yesterday, I've taken-in the first show in an inaugural listen.
The mix is a bit rocky out of the gate, which is unfortunate cause I love me some Help- Slip -Franklin's opener; things get pretty dialed-in by the time Slipknot rolls around. Bobby jumps into Franklin's a fraction of a moment too soon, but it doesn't ruin anything at the end of the day. Things move along at a decent clip and the first set is enjoyable; a notable Peggy'O with just the right amount of reverb on Jerry's hauntingly beautiful solo and a nicely jammed Cassidy paired with a rocking Deal close out set 1. I really dig the Chinacat and the transition swells and builds multiple times until Bobby nudges Jerry into the climax before it settles into Rider. The Looks Like Rain is actually really good, with some great sound techniques being utilized. The Terrapin is sprawling and the little jam coming out the other end is definitely interesting - was that Mickey who prompted that entire little run at the end there? One of the drummers coaxes this jam out of the band and it's cool. The Other One doesn't let up at all once it gets going with a couple of raunchy Phil Bombs in there for good Measure; followed by a typically epic Dew. I always loved The Weight, so it's fulfilling to see it pop on a Dave's as an encore.

Looking forward to the 7/19 show, it shall be spun today.
Happy Friday Deadfreaks.

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