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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Butch - I agree with most of your post - I'm not sure I'd go along with remixing a show and dropping a musician that was there out of the mix ( Brent) however irksome his contributions became.

    I enjoyed a lot of live music in the 1980's that doesn't stand up to close scrutiny now. I saw Hawkwind loads of time in the 80's and always enjoyed it - but I wouldn't recommend any of their live albums from that era. You really had to have been there - and I suspect it's the same with Dead shows. Maybe they will concentrate on souvenir shows from now on - ones that the greatest number of people attended, which would necessarily mean concentrating on 1980s-1990s.
    Not good. This could be the first year when I haven't wanted any of the Daves Picks shows that have come out.

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    Yes, September 11, Dennis.

    Yes, it has been a different couple of years for Dave's Picks, but put me in the camp of wanting more variety, not less. There are tons of great shows out there from all eras. But, not everybody will be happy.

    For me, the Frost shows were my favorite so far and that was a surprise to me, but I really like them and keep listening to them.

    Based on sales, #49 is the only one that is actually sold out. You still have three from last year that are still available. Maybe they should cut it back a few thousand. Not sure that will happen.

    My least favorite of the year was #51, sound quality is not very good.

    I haven't heard the Santa Fe show yet, looking forward to it.

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    Could not agree more with Butch's comment about how poor these releases have gotten, and this is coming from a huge fan of the Brent years. David, why do you continue to keep so many of the great, classic shows bottled up and give us this bull instead? Holding it all for the inevitable $5-600 GD60 Box?

    Even worse than the choice of show for Vol 52 - how could anyone confidently expect a quality product from these clowns when the FOTD set was such a flaming pile of trash?

    At my last count nearly 40 tracks in the set are totally unplayable, with no solution from Lemiuex and the crew but a refund - if you take the time to reach out and ask. No one from Dead.net coming out and saying, "hey - don't buy this it doesn't work properly." Very shady if you asked me but oh well, on to the next release of "top notch Grateful Dead music," so who cares! I wonder if/when enough of us heads will realize that these "archivists" are really just grifters ripping us all off.

    My recommendation to anyone reading; buy a cheap external hard drive and fill it with free, high quality FLAC for less $ than you're spending on one or two of these bogus releases. Stop giving David Lemieux your money for nothing of value in return.

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    I see 11 & 40 on the birds,,, I assume the 40 is mick's birthday. Is 11 the date?

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    I'm done subscribing. There is so much good 60s and 70s material in the vault, and half the releases these days are the band on the decline. Doesn't matter how many people were buying tickets for the shows (thus is always the argument for the 80s), the recordings suck. I don't how people can stand listening to that keyboard player's bar band vocals. Sure the concerts were great live and in person, but so were the Stones this year but I am not listening to a recording of them in 2024. It's no secret why sales are down. There used to be so many subscriptions that these things would sell out in less than 24 hours. It goes to show hiw few people want a subscription where they're getting two Brent shows a year, usually with bad audio. I would remix Spring 90 without his vocals or most of his keyboards. Dude, learn when to stop playing. Oh, but he made Jerry smile onstage. Never mind. Keep them coming.

    We had 1 show from before the hiatus in 2024, including the box set. Dave, Rhino, and Pinkus don't deserve my money when they're holding back great material from 68-74. There won't be 25K Dave's Picks per release next year. They got cocky and tried to mix in too much after hiatus music. The Dave's Picks titanic is sinking. Shame.

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    For my money, the best tour between the end of 1978 and the Summer of 1987.

    LOVE the cover art!

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    A fun release! Wish I could of seen these two shows cause its NM (an adopted state - work there, all over the state, on a regular basis) and Santa Fe (beautiful fascinating town with deep history - famous for good reasons), and yeah, they're smoking outdoor shows with awesome high desert weather. Really love the racing roadrunners!! NM state bird - always happy with a roadrunner sighting!

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    Always love the anticipation of a new release. Hope we have it by the end of next week.

    Dave teased #53, which we will know soon, as an era they don't hit much and it was between two shows. Okay, that is interesting. What era could it be?

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    You cant always get what you want

    I want both dates

    But

    I will take what theyre givin'

    Very glad for the three tracks from 9 10 83

    Love the Jimi reference, DMCVT

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    Thank you for including the Cumberland....

    ....from the night before!
    It's like TPTB were reading my mind.
    Extremely excited for this one.
    Bring it on.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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Enjoyable, but forgettable pick.. Too bad "He s gone >U.S blues was not kept complete on disc 3. 54.. I am hoping we get the first 80s bonus disc - Red Rocks 82.. come on Dave..

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Easy to go with Jim Morning Dew. The crashing crescendo at the end of the 80's period, wow.

But Stella Blue could easily slide into that postion, I think the lyrics are more touching.

For years I thought Stella Blue was a woman, then in some show, some tape, somewhere the lyrics hit me like a hammer. Now the only wonder is he slipping in to sleep or death?

Brit shows - me and a buddy can talk in Python clips (I have another friend whom I speak Honeymooners and Abbott & Costello talk). Shows we watch until lines become understood statements between friends are like conversational short hand. If you know Faulty Towers, then Manuel's "Eventually" will be understood. "Say No More".

But my favorite and I think one of the greatest tv shows ever written is "The Rise and Fall of Reginald Perrin".
The original one with Leonard Rossiter, NOT the remake. This show has 21 half hour episode that are so tightly written that if you laugh at one line, you miss 3. I didn't get where I am today without knowing a great Brit show! Neither Mrs CJ or I have ever missed a Reggie"

On latest troll, may we seen the last of them. At least Vguy gave him whatfor, useless I agree, but you go Vman.

xtra - that Scarlet-Fire from yesterdays 30 days is very nice (from 89)

Let's hope all that want DP 3 have good hunting tomorrow.

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But has anyone seen the release date for Dick's Vol 3 vinyl. Sure, we can order tomorrow, but when is it coming? I believe it was experience that kept us on the hook for over a year on some release,,, it did come, but you really had to wonder for a while there :-)

Hi Dennis, if past experience is any guide, the Real Gone vinyl version of DiP 3 will be released on its "for sale" date (which is Nov 14). I've bought a couple other Dicks from RG and they have shipped within a couple of days. I want to say they arrived within a week of purchase.

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Like that Vguy. I'm with you, the grieving is done, the time to start mercilessly mocking every stupid thing that happens over the next for years has begun (but not here). The sun never sets on some a$$holes

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JimInMD, I can’t argue with your twofer of “Morning Dew” performances if we’re including songs Jerry and the band covered. I should have made it clearer that I meant ones he co-wrote.

Now I think I’ll go listen again to that great version of “Stella Blue” from Hamilton on 11/4/77 (DaP 12), and then maybe "Wharf Rat" from . . .

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It's nice to see Bless Its Pointed Little Head getting some love. I have always love love loved that record.

It might be heresy to say so around these parts but I have it on pretty darned good authority from someone who was actually THERE that before 1969 Airplane was a better live band than the Dead. Listening to BIPLH this seems entirely plausible. Great playing from Jack and Jorma. Great tunes. And Gracie was unbelievable then. The Airplane crashed and burned and the Dead went on evolving and eventually became the greater, more influential band. But man, they were fun while they lasted.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to find a shrubbery.

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If your a Jazzhead, check your collection - Roy Haynes is on it.

Stopped buying after #50, for a lot of reasons, but based on what I’m reading about 52 here, this is a great one.

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How come we can't get squared up cover art for Dave's Picks? That angled picture is not really useful in any application or device.

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My favorite version is 4-22-78, in Nashville - Dave's Picks #15.

That whole show smokes....

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Send me your e-mail address in a PM and I can hook you up with the cover art.

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Wow, I go out of town for a few days and it took me five times more time than usual to catch up on this thread! Now that I have the gist of this current conversation, I will follow someone's advice and scroll through the politics.
PS I love this release!

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I enjoyed this release more than I had expected. That said, I have only played it once so far as I am still working my way through the Friend of the Devils box.

As for the rest, it's shaping up to be the greatest shit show on earth.

That was all inferred, as the person I was replying to didn't specify what the exam was, and neither did I, though he did seem to imply it was a similar experience to what we should expect for the next 4 years. I thought my comeback was pretty funny. All it shows is that you guys can dish it out, but you can't take it.

But that's not even what I was referring to by "selective censorship." I was referring to a different post in which I provided ADR report numbers for several different common drugs and vaccines. The data I posted comes directly from the World Health Organization website.

That post was deleted, but for what purpose? It insulted no one. I find that interesting.

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I still like the version from Skull and Roses. Maybe because it was the first one I ever heard. It's damn near perfect.

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'Veedon Fleece' - Van Morrison
'Boomer's Story' - Ry Cooder
'Know What I Mean?' - Cannonball Adderley w/Bill Evans
'Texas Cannonball' - Freddie King
'The Complete Quartets with Sonny Clark' - Grant Green

As always, your mileage may vary.

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....positives people. Positives! 😁

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No side nose scratchin' here! We're knuckle deep up in that {proverbial} nostril!
Anyways, yeah! I am Gratefully satisfied, loving that full Help~Slip Frank's Tower with a subtle segue into an excellent Let it Grow! Admittedly, I start the pick at Hell in a Busket, and not because of sonic patches in the duo of Alabama~>Promised Land.
I have to say, after hearing the Alabama Getaway from Dave's #47, St. Louis at the Kiel, I can't hear any other versions.
In conclusion I love this autumn '83 pick, and am ecstatic to learn it was an old gold Taper's pick back in the day, I can understand why. The melange & melody of songs after an excellent Drums~Space is truly stellar, with extra long segues between the tunes.
I've got this pick blended well with the Dave's #39 'Philly' pick from the spring tour and the 1983 MsG box shows on a mega playlist. Dick's 6 fits in well all the same, as does the 10/31 bootleg I've got.

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First off I kinda think I understand what this is even supposed to mean. Too bad I forgot which Dead thread I saw this on, probably this one because it got WaaaaaaaaY buried in the weeds. But anyways, as far as my collection goes which is many iTunes digital and Dead.net stuff since 2018~ish I would throw out there this.

Dave's #31 Chicago 12/3/79 to Dave's #47 St. Louis 12/9/79 {match up the extra 12/4 filler from each pick and place it accordingly} .....then on to Dick's #5 Oakland 12/26/79 and Road Trips Vol.3,No.1 12/28/79.

The June 1990 Eugene, OR Dave's #44 pick to the July Deer Creek Dave's #40 double show release pick would qualify as a mini box too I would imagine?

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You got it RYXS. And while I was specifically referring to closely related releases in the DaP series you can expand it to include all the archival releases from a particular period.

In the thread for Friend of the Devils, for example, I mentioned "Turn on Your Lovelight: 11/2/69 to 2/2/70"; you could add 11/8/69 (DiP 16) to that one, as well as some shows - two I think - from the Download Series. (I don't own any downloads).

I know Dave gets a lot of stick for his spiel about "well this show was almost released back in ___ instead of ____". But perhaps some of these DaPs were originally meant to be part of a box set. Whatever the case I'm glad we now have them. And I'm looking forward to the third DaP from "Summer 1990" whenever it gets released.

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Totally off topic but, who you got tomorrow? Mike Tyson or Jake Paul? Anyone else curious to see how it goes? Those early Tyson fights were something to see, he just knocked people out quick. Wondering if he can pull it off at 58 against a 27 year old. My 26 year old son argues that Tyson has no chance but given that I'm pretty much the same age as Tyson, I like to think he could win it. I may have to sign up for Netflix so that I can watch, could be interesting.

I really like this West LA, particularly what Bob is doing throughout :)

Man, I love those two late December '79 releases, to my ears they are unique and much better than even the beginning of the month.

The RSD 2019 Warfield disc is on Amazon for 20 bucks, which is confusing, but I was happy to finally get one. I don't think it's a reissue.

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on the Tinley Park '90 videos. I know we all like to get completely immersed in the sound, but for me, seeing Jerry's fingers up close and doin' the work is about as good as it gets.

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That was a brutal ten pages to scroll through.

First off, I like this pick fine. I had always written off 1983, but the Boise show and this one are pretty solid. I don't care for the Spring Philly show though or the Philly 1984 show. I think I am going to pass on the subscription this year for the first time since year 3 and pick up shows a la carte as needed. I was never a completist in my show collecting, just wanted good examples from years and I am feeling a bit saturated at this point. Plus, I sense economic headwinds on the horizon and collecting Dead shows may be a sacrifice to be made. Hope I am wrong about that. We'll see, maybe once they announce #54 I will change my mind.

I like the list of favorites in the DaP series. The Wichita 11/17/72 show was one I actually didn't expect to like and it is one of my favorites. One of my favorite moments in the series is in the Philly Spectrum show 1973-- what I call the 'Backwards Dark Star.' They do the 'space jam' after Truckin' and transition into a short little 4-minute Dark Star. The crowd seems to understand what they witnessed and roars after the verses. Love it.

Oh yeah, Wharf Rat-- that Nashville one is the very best, but the Scranton 1971 release reminded me how very fine the early versions are with Pigpen's haunting organ. Don't get me started on ballads, not a big fan. That said, I never considered Wharf Rat one of Jerry's ballads, just a good rock song.

Stealth boxes-- love that late March and early April 1973 one. He also put out a Fall 1977 stealth box with Colgate, Dekalb and Binghampton over the course of the series, plus there is at least one show in early November 1977 in the Dick's series. Lots of shows from Fall 1971 in the DaP series, too-- Felt Forum, Ann Arbor, Albuquerque.

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DiP 3 is one of my favorite releases. Will sound great on vinyl!
Listened to it often when all I had was the first 25 DiPs. Then I got a computer and all hell broke loose. Now running out of room for it all, lol.
Cheers
And I see Dennis is in too (on other thread)

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A couple comments

First, I am a sucker for underdogs. Second, I'd like to think Mike Tyson today is a different man than Young Mike Tyson. He appears to have turned a corner at some point, probably when he was in prison. Not saying is has aways been a terrific human, but the new Mike is a little bit likeable.

He has been seen at least once hanging out with Bob Weir, which sort of ties this conversation to the band beyond description. Finally, there is at least one story floating around that he died while on acid and of course came back home probably with a different view on the details of life.

Plus, there's his cameo in the Hangover. I'm pulling for Mike.

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....seen recent videos of him training on TV. He's still a beast. Plus, Paul is a lil' bi*ch!
Edit. Tyson is a self-admitted shroom indulger.
Edit again. DiP 3 is sold out.

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Dick's Picks 3 is one of the greatest releases by any band, EVER!!
Just my two cents, and it ain't worth one.

Makes me sorta wish I had a turntable, though.

Be Well People!
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Grabbed the Warfield 2019 show. Much, much, much Appreciated!

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Finally Dead.net sent a new one. Just received, haven't had chance to listen to it but looking forward.

Thanks TPTB!

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Hey Jim. Got excited today because I ordered Dicks 3 on vinyl. Haven't been here for quite some time and generally miss it. I miss the banter with you, Vguy and some others. Anyhow....hope all is well. Good to see all you good folk are keeping it alive. Be good.
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The vinyl was for RSD but I don’t think that the CD was ‘limited’.

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Right on Brother. And right back at you! I assumed you were one of the ones we lost building a tunnel under the vault on the Fee the 1968 Reels project.

It seems the closer we get to the vault the more they look like the roadrunner and the more we look like Wile E. Coyote.

Great to see you man. Been years.

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You'd think Deadheads would be on board with this...

"FDA’s war on public health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean foods, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by Pharma. If you work for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you: 1. Preserve your records, and 2. Pack your bags."

- RFK Jr. Oct. 25, 2024

He was just named as the next Secretary of Health and Human Services.

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....apparently the DiP 3 vinyl isn't a pre-order. Just got a shipping notice.

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Pembroke shall be mine.

In other news Dicks 33 on vinyl $152 Amazon. Just came today.

Incredible upgrade from cd. Highly, highly recommend. I'm drifting sweetly away and casually melting.

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Agreed. One of the best releases of either series. Nothing short of sublime. Thank you all for the heads up. Grabbed a copy and can’t wait until I purchase a turntable.

Many, many years ago I went to Fort Lauderdale for winter break. Towards the end of the week, we found ourselves on an extended bender at some generic tiki bar drinking mai tais by the gallon. Towards the end of the night, some obnoxious dude settles in at the bar and starts bothering everyone. Spewing nonstop about BS that nobody wanted to hear. I reached into my pocket to purchase another drink and realized that I was down to my last one dollar. Realizing my dilemma and assessing my options, I placed my one dollar bill on the bar and calmly slid it over to our unwanted guest. “Please go away” is all I said.

HCS - I ask the same of you.

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This is not the place for this. Really, it is not. Take your shart like retoric and go away or I shall be forced to taunt you a second time.

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.....$155 for 8 records? (checks site).
Dayum.
Also one of my favorite releases.
Purchased.
I knew getting a record player a couple of years ago would be detrimental to my credit card. 5% cash back though!
I'm going back to New Mexico for an hour or two.

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Pretty, pretty good

Nice companion show to 9/11/83

Of course, 9/10/83 would have a TRUE companion show

If they only had asked me

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