Grateful Dead

Hurts Ne Too!!

oh yass he killed it.

Limited edition BS again. Pumping this all weekend on Sirius, telling us to go buy it but it's totally sold out. Jokes on us. Ha ha ha. So annoying.

Still wading through the box, I've been bouncing around, but holy guacamole the first set in Santa Barbara is chef's kiss. Race Is On through Playing is all A+.

I'm assuming this show has never circulated widely, because Headyversion doesn't have anything from it that gets high marks. Have to figure that's lack of ears on it, not lack of quality in it.

If you have received your box set, could you let us unlucky people know. Thanks.

How/who to contact for replacement discs? I have never had this issue in the past?

One for me and one for my brother. He was at the Kezar show. I'm having a bbq today, so perfect timming.

Must be out of the loop, but a band that has recorded no new songs/music in 8 years, plays the same ol' songs for 8 years.......isn't that a cover band ? So happy for the younger generation that gets to enjoy the music that the Dead made, but,....well, I got nothing more to say. Drummer Bill made the right decision to enjoy Hawaii.

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Be sure to mention in any communication that you have become aware via Internet forums etc that this is a widespread problem with this release.Almost certainly caused by very poor and totally inadequate disc handling procedures somewhere in their chain.That the only acceptable solution is to give you replacement discs even if that means remanufacture.
Do not accept offers of discounts on future releases.

I got my box set this past Friday and I immediately went to ripping them especially because I read some comments from others who had some issues. I got lucky as all of the discs came snug in the cardboard sleeve. So the good news was that the discs were not floating around in the package during shipping. The bad news was that I had to carefully remove them from the cardboard sleeve- I have had a few discs get scuffs because they were so snug in the sleeve that the seam was separated by the disc. That runs this risk of the glue getting on the disc and damaging it so I was worried about that.

Anyway I keep all of my CDs in those plastic clamshell cases just to keep them from going back into those cardboard sleeves and possibly getting damaged. I had no issues ripping any of them and I as soon as each was done being ripped, it went into one of those clamshell cases. I have been slowly listening to the shows, and I came across a few anomalies which I attribute to various Dick's caveat emptors sated for that series as that also applies here.

Hmph.

I mean, I have serious wood for this release.

Tomorrow holiday so no delivery.

Wednesday I am at work all day.

(I just don't want some asshole to steal it while I am away if it's left on front porch).

UPS or USPS?

Hang in there, Proudfoot. Hang in there. Steady....

So I have to say that that this tour has been quite an improvement over recent years. I completely understand the criticisms of this band, especially the tempo issue. However not only have they picked up the tempo they are playing with more vigor on this tour. I miss Billy, but Jay Lane is tremendous drummer and I really dig his style. I am couch touring the Folsom show right now and they sound good. Except they just announcing that are having a lightning alert so they stopped the show for a bit.

Lightning notwithstanding, I am glad that this is the last tour. 8 years is long enough and it seems like they are playing some of their best music for the last tour. So they are seemingly going out on top at least when compared to some of the previous years to my ears. Good times!

....yeah. Disc inserts shouldn't be this frustrating. I usually trim my fingernails extremely tight. Let Them Grow!
Regarding replacements? I used something called damage control when one of those Libby glasses came shattered. Is damage control still around?
And apologies now for my non-music related rants at times.
I'll do better.

A cover band cannot have any original members of the music they play Dead and Co, Furthur, The Dead, Phil and Friends Any of Mickey's or Bill's bands Are not cover bands Dark Star Orchestra is a cover band

Anyone who preordered the FLAC download have any luck yet? I've heard nothing back from dead.net "customer service" since the automated reply (received Sunday AM, after I sent a request for help with my non-existent download Friday PM), suggesting that I read the FAQ page :(

I know it's a long holiday weekend, but this should be an easy problem to fix, especially given that plenty of people seem to be having trouble with it... I'm really looking forward to listening to this music. But needless to say, I won't be preordering again.

....so cool.

Complete total blissful smoking crater

I would think you would need at least two original members of a band to move it out of the cover band category. Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets, for example, could not be, and wasn't presented as Pink Floyd. LiveDead69 feel like a cover band, despite having Tom Constanten on keyboards. Both good bands - but basically cover bands.

The only time such a band could be passed off as the original article would be if members left gradually over a period of time while the band in question was still working, so that there was only one person left who was there at the beginning.
There is only one original member of Hawkwind left, but as he has been carrying the banner consistently for 54 years, no one seriously suggests that he should stop using the name. When he hangs up his hat it remains to be seen whether the others will carry one as Hawkwind. Gong have, under similar circumstances, and that works.
Ironically, concerning Hawkwind, circa 2000 there was another band gigging who featured about 4-5 original members - yet they were considered the cover band while the one with the lone original member seemed like, and was, the real thing.

to see these shows released: 9/20/70, great acoustic set, 2/17/79, Keith & Donna's last show, the Dead played fantastic, 9/11/81 my favorite Greek Show, you kinda had to be there, 7/13/76, seeing the Dead in the tiny Orpheum Theatre was very special. 6/17/75. the Crazy Fingers opener was worth the price of admission.

Just to keep the record straight.

Rupert Holmes porn soundtrack showed up yesterday,,,, guess I made the first 200,,, got an autographed copy!!!!

If interested the first 15K takes it! You know this is the one you've been waiting for.

Happy scare your dog day and Vguy I don't mind a political poke or two. Just for the sake of argument. :-)

I usually monitor the site every day and was watching for an alert regarding sales. For example: Only 1500 left. . .. Order before midnight tonight! Unfortunately, after logging in this morning, the 17 disc box is sold out. Serious bummer. Well, anyhow, I am on the "notify me" list if more become available. Universe bring me this box. . .. Happy July 4th to everyone! Wave that Flag!

New account from longtime lurker. Been buying/collecting commercial Dead recordings since One From the Vault at The Wall Music store in Piscataway (I think), NJ back in ‘91. Sometimes I go full boat for hard copies, other times, I go digital, especially if I don’t need any new tenguies, LOL. Usually, I find the attention to the product pretty good. Great, actually. However, I bought the HCS ALAC late on 6/30. Files downloaded fine. As good as the shows are, there are, unfortunately, many, many “frustrating omissions” in the files as the old DP caveat emptor used to say. Some prevent burning tracks to CD others burn with dead air. Made some adjustments/replacements to burn CDs and just finished listening to Kezar and I’m up to a total of 16 corrupted tracks. It’s mostly a track here and there but the content of disc 3 from 5/20/73 UCSB was almost completely corrupted. If anyone cares, I can get more specific when I finish “working” on all 5 shows. Otherwise, I’ll save it for Rhino customer service.

I’m gonna guess it’s got something to do with AUD patches that didn’t take in the files because I’ve seen comments mentioning one or two specifically that are problem tracks. Plus, I didn’t hear any of those echo-y transitions. Some of the corrupted tracks even make a sharp electronic buzz when they stop, like what I imagine it would sound like if some wasted roadie kicked the tapers plug out of the soundboard.

I have an extra copy and in the spirit of things in this thread, if someone wants it at my cost, $99.99 plus postage and its yours. afperrone@liberty.edu.

....I can attest to that. We have two. Our male will sit with us on the sidewalk and watch the fireworks go off with laser focus.
Our female? We'll be lucky to see her before noon on the 5th.
Mayormarionbarry with the good vibes!

Whatever you do, do not purchase the FLAC. You have your best shot buying the CD box on the secondary market. Still haven't heard a word from Dead.net regarding my FLAC pre-order. No product. No refund. Nothing.

Ribeye steaks, garlic bread, potato salad, lots of chips and salsa,
lots of ice cold Sierra Nevada beer, Grateful Dead and red hot blues music. Happy July 4th. ,

Mine arrived last Friday.
No fuss, no muss.
Not a disc out of place.
Nary a scratch, smudge, or scrape to be found.
All 17 ripped without a hitch.
My ear sockets have been in a state of bliss ever since.

Nonsense!
A cover band is people who did not write or perform the music themselves.
It’s others “covering” what someone else wrote and performed.
Last I checked Bob wrote his songs, and was part of the creation process on JGs songs.
And their not calling it The Grateful Dead, it’s called Dead and Company for a reason.
The shit people get uptight about shhheeessshhh.
How bout just listen to the music, ya might like it, if not, that’s cool, perhaps base opinions on the music, not what it’s called?

VGUY: imho you can post what and as much as you like!
Wish we had more VGUYs here…

BLUECROW: another good show, though it seemed comparatively more laid back and at times (ie., He’s Gone) a slight regression to the slow plodding Han mentioned from recent past. I enjoyed this year so much I might consider The Gorge and/or Shoreline. I mean $100 for 3 HD shows in Auro 3D immersive audio in giant leather chair with everything needed a few feet away…still seems like a value to me?
What’s one concert ticket, with fees, parking, drinks etc,….not including “fuel”…

....both online and in person can confuse what is actually concern with supposed anger.
I'm not angry, but I do shake my head a lot.
One of my favorite lyrics of any song is from Phish's Bathtub Gin. "We're all in this together....(and we love to take a bath)".
I even have a Pollock print by my front door that says that to remind me every day.
Happy Independence Day everyone! We will survive.

Ordered the HCS box set on May 2nd and have a confirmation email. I haven't received a shipping email but see this on the order status page. Not sure what it means.

Date Ordered: 05/02/2023 9:04 pm
Order Status: In Progress
Shipped to: (my name)

So it shipped? Or is shipping "in progress"? Where's the confirmation email? Where's my item?

Something went off the rails with this release. I read here many people have had issues with shipping communication. Many people have had issues with digital downloads. Many people have received damaged discs. The release has been handled poorly. After many successful releases why would they suddenly have a bunch of issues like this? What a mess.

....and to also quote Talking Heads.
"Same as it ever was.'
Oh. And The Sphere here is doing test runs on the exterior display. Looks pretty awesome. There's a couple of neat videos of it on you toob. The news says they are going unleash its full power tonight.
Currently watching the Marlins/Cardinals game. Baseball is cool. Liking the pitch clock when originally i was against it. Arraez still flirting with a .400 batting average.

Release date was 6-30. I wouldn't sweat it yet. I'd wait til next week to start freaking...

Until then, freak freely.... :-) :-) :-)

Every freakin' time.

My only issue is, like I said...I don't want a scumbag stealing my box set from my porch.

I would be more patient if I knew its delivery were going to be safe.

Meanwhile...what about Dave's 47???

"Mowr, mowr, mowr"

- Bill Graham

....just caught one in the junk. Ouch! I feel ya bro.

Oro - mind blowing show. Whole bunch of folks flying eyeballs deep. Magic and more magic all night long. Couldn't ask for more. The Playing > lightning delay > crazy dark clouds just to the north moving so slow with a few big bolts > early Set Break > Playing > Uncles Johns > Playing Reprise was dream time stuff. Then Help > Slip > Frank > He's Gone > Other One verse 2 into drumz. No fucking way. Watchtower w/ Dave Mathews was absolute complete craziness. Nights 1 and 3 were my favorites - where Momma hides the cookies - and Night 2 damn fine also. And yes V-Guy there were the drone Space and it was super cool - "what is happening??!!" They kept flying the drones after the show was over - at one point they read "Please Be Kind" I'd write more but hitting the road now. Should be passing through Eagle in next 2-1/2 to 3 hrs if traffic up mountain ain't bad.

Wishing everybody a happy and safe July 4th with abundant good food and icy drinks and the company of family and friends.

Denver '73 Road Trips is my driving music right now.

....That's. The. Entire. Point.
Congratulations man.
You got the goods. Drive safe and enjoy the beauty that this county has to offer.
She's a beautiful.
I was just looking at Oracle Park tix. But, I shot a huge wad to see the Cup.
Ebbs and flows.

Seems ironic that this is the first release that has sold out for a while, and most of the posts about it on here concern problems with shipping and/or packaging. Not exactly a recommendation for prospective buyers of future releases.
Maybe they should take more care about the way discs are stored within a box, and less on what the actual box looks like.
These box sets are sometimes referred to as "works of art". If they are, then this surely because of the music, not the packaging.

Like I said, I'm so glad that the folks who were not there when we were lucky enough to have been there can enjoy the music now, but the same 50-60 songs for the past 8 years from D & C ???? .....so much more to choose from. Seen one Dead and C show, you seen them all.

Received mine at the beginning of the weekend. Shows no movement but estimates it's arrival on Saturday. No sweat. Would have been surprised if this box didn't sell out before the release date. It contains at least a couple of highly coveted shows and perfect companion shows to go along with those. Any shows they performed with The Allmans are essential.

Hope Dave hits on a choice '91 show for a pick this year. 4/1/91 and 9/26/91 are two gorillas in that room.

My copy of HCS arrived via UPS on Sunday, just a couple days after the official release date. Had a good time yesterday listening to the Kezar show (which I've heard, but never in such excellent sound) and now today checking out the first RFK (which I've never heard before). The music's great, of course. The Dead could do no wrong in '73 (unless we count Seastones, right?) and they are playing and singing at a creative peak here. But you knew that.

Sorry to hear that along with the standard shipping woes some folks have also encountered issues with corrupted discs. So far so good for me through 5 discs (and counting). It always worries me when I get a big box set that I might not get to some of these discs for weeks or months, so if there's a problem I might not figure that out for a while. But I have to say the one time I did have a problem (the June 76 box) TPTB sent a replacement quickly.

The fi is especially hi on what I've heard so far. I love it that KG is so nicely audible. He was really contributing to the jams during that period: check out his "dialogue" with Garcia on the Kezar TTO. And I always love it that Bob's guitar is equally well represented as it is here. Vocals are often a little low in the mix, but if you're like me, that's just fine as long as you can hear each individual instrument at any given time. Which, praise ye gods, is what we get.

So, big kudos and a giant THANK YOU to EVERYBODY who was involved in choosing and remastering and shipping this material. Now, on to the petty gripes!

Not super thrilled with the packaging. I prefer it when it's easy to grab an individual show and take it with me on a long car ride (such as with the NW box for example) and I don't like it that much when the CDs are stored in thin card board slip cases that are both unwieldy and flimsy (as with Spring 77 and this set). Kind of surprised there's no booklet with none of the insightful essays we've gotten with some other sets, just flimsy inserts with brief notes on each show. And it takes a lot of shelf space, which is an issue for me: I'm going to either have to stop buying these boxes or get a bigger house.

I suppose I could go with the FLACs, but those orders seem always to be plagued with technical problems, and they're almost as expensive as the physical product, for some reason. Seems like they should be a lot cheaper. Seriously, it's been a great run with all these lavish boxes with deluxe packaging, but I'm getting to the point where I might prefer cheaper, less lavish, cheaper and more compact physical editions. Just sayin.

Wah wah wah, right? Let me return to my origin point: I am beyond stoked to have this music, which is outstanding in every respect, in my collection. We're so lucky these recordings got made, and that there's this reissue program that brings them to us in such good sound. I was thinking about it the other day: Zeppelin was the biggest band in the universe during the time these concerts were recorded (and played Kezar shortly after the Dead did), and how many quality live recordings do we have from them? How much would Zep fans love to see a reissue program like the Dead has? But alas, you want live Zep (so much of which is outstanding) you have to listen to somebody's 50 year old cassette recordings and use a lot of imagination.

OK, I'm done. Back to the BBQ, IPA, and GOGD. Have a great Fourth y'all.

Sorry you feel that way, but certainly understandable and your opinion is always welcome.
Sounds like we both agree that it’s nice the “music” lives on, especially for those who missed out!

....exactly that. Isn't it grand?!
I love seafood.
My wife doesn't.
But we both love biscuits!

Seastones is great! (I do seem to be in the minority on that opinion...)

And Seastones was 1974, not 1973.

Not really mad. Just impatiently waiting for the box set.

Y'all be cool, CTM.

and Spacebrother...maybe a '91 will indeed happen.

WHAT ABOUT GAINESVILLE???

....or '92.
There's treasures there.

It has been 38 picks since our one and only 1980…
But It’d be cool if they did 6/22/91 (especially with video) since they did some kinda work on it to show it, and a 68 for number 48.

Apologies if buried below as somehow a freaking DeadCo discussion and debate erupted in a thread about a 73 box set, but is anyone else noticing a whole mess of errors with the downloads? There are tracks that are corrupted and cut off and even a few tracks, notably 5/20 Other One Eyes, for fukks sakes!, that are listed as not available in your country, which is something considering I am in the US. I have tried downloading multiple times to see if perhaps the process created problems, but nope. Same crap, different download. I have been a loyal buyer of everything, I mean everything, in terms of DP and box sets and releases the past 20 years, but this is the first serious issue I have encountered outside of the annoying shipping delay, and one "never arrived" situation which was rectified very promptly. Its somewhat outrageous that this product gets delivered so haphazardly. Anyone else having these issues, assuming of course you even received your download, which seems to be another gem of a hiccup with this release.

....talk about melting faces.

Sorry to hear of bad discs with the new box. My box is SFSG. One disc was loose. I did my usual quick visual check of each disk, no scratches or smears. After reading about the discs, I realize I must do a quick test of each disc in my player. Will do as soon as I get back home.
I admit the disc sleeves are oversize and cumbersome. Personally I am impressed with the artwork. I think this box is one of the most beautiful boxes I have ever seen. I will proudly display it in my box bookshelf, which I admit has run out of space- need another bookshelf!
Besides mini books for each concert, there is a booklet for the overall box, its just smaller than usual.