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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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    Thank You!

  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    just noticed this says sold out. Its about time. I don't know what took so long. This is a fantastic box set.

  • eyes43
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    The first two listening days players are mixed up, on the main page for the July 78 box set. Just thought admin might want to fix that! Peace!

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    marye , could you have a look at my order number if you can 137400000224478
    ordered on nov 27th and still nothing . any help would be appreciated .

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    Hi just an bit of info for people who were in a similar position to me: I ordered the Box Set (as part of a larger order) on 9-21-19, and it arrived today, so a little over 3 months later. I had written CS once (on November 26) and received a reply on December 3 from Warner Music Group Customer Service which read, in part:

    Due to a complex warehouse move we now have a significant backlog of both customer inquiries and shipments, and as a result we haven’t been able to deliver at the level that we pride ourselves on.
    For those waiting on their orders, while we wish we could give you an exact estimate as to when your order will ship, we are still awaiting the exact order status details that we urgently want to get to you.
    We are putting 100% of our focus and dedication into a solution to this shipping delay, and are currently working with our warehouse partner to send out outstanding orders.
    We wish we had been able to have communicated this to you sooner, but we had relied on assurances from our warehouse partner that they would be able to quickly resolve the backlog of orders, and they haven’t been able to honor this commitment. We must again apologize for this delay in reaching out to you.
    While it is not our place to be making requests of you, we do hope that you will continue to be patient with us, as we work through these issues and work with our current partner to ship out your order as soon as possible.
    We are genuinely sorry for the delay and inconvenience associated with your order, and we thank you for your patience and understanding to date.

    HANG IN THERE FELLOW DEADHEADS!!!!!! AS ALWAYS IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT.
    However, I don't see the Box Set currently listed for sale on the Dead's site right now either? My S/N was 091xx of 15000.
    Peace and Happy Hanukkah!

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    Merry x-mas to you too. Now the july 78 box completely disappeared from the site which makes me nervous. There were still a bunch left too.

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    I feel for you, man. I made the mistake of ordering a simple CD (Terrapin Limited--3/15/90) for a Christmas gift some three weeks ago. Alas, it still sits in a "processing" status. Email requests have been answered with the same "robo-response" bullshit. And what makes it even more frustrating is dead.net had absolutely zero problems charging my credit card the day I ordered it...that portion of their logistical process seems to run flawlessly! And by comparison, I ordered other Christmas gifts from the Foo Fighters, Rush, and Pearl Jam websites the same day as my Dead order, and holy shit, like magic, all their merchandise arrived, as ordered, in less than a week.
    This "we're moving our warehouse" excuse has grown pathetic and old...any logistical issues dead.net is having should be transparent to the customer! But allow me to end my complaints with a few suggestions, as I'm the kind of person who won't complain without bringing some solutions to the table....: (1) SHUT DOWN ALL SALES UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO COMPLETE AN ORDER! (2) DO NOT CHARGE THE CUSTOMER UNTIL AFTER A PRODUCT SHIPS!

    Merry Christmas All---and Carlo, if you're really Jonesin for those 78 shows, PM me (if it works) I'm sure I have a copy's I could share

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    It may take a little time be patient.

    "Due to a high-volume of email traffic, there will be a delay in response time".

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    Wish I knew. I was hoping to confirm that the order will be recognized instead of forgotten. So I tried Dr. Rhino and got the same robo-response/apology as regular customer service email. These responses include a reminder that multiple inquiries may further delay an order...so handcuffed, LOL! But I can still play the shamisen and there are far worse things. It's all good.

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    I also ordered this box 7 weeks ago and still nada. I am waiting patiently because it will eventually ship. I will say it will ship on Dec. 22. What date do you think.

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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Hell yea.. Keithfan.. you surprised me on this one. If its primal, I do like complete shows.. its an experience thing. I recently listened to 2/14/68 and it blew me away like it was a first listen. I'm with you in spirit man.. its my soft spot. Just don't mention the word Pigpen three times or you invoke the spirit of HendrixFreak. Once that shit is out of the bottle, its very hard to put it back in. Just sayin'.
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....my first three day run, met Bill Graham briefly, David Lindley and Los Lobos opened. My first Lobos experience. Have seen them approx a dozen times since. Awesome scene. AM fog in the campground every morning. Gels and goonie birds everywhere. A complete Playin' the first night. A China -> Crazy Fingers-> IKYR and Smokestack out of Space the second night. Hildago sat in for Rooster and West LA in the first set Sunday. Last Start Your Engines (grate Brent tune). Morning Dew ended the second set the third night. When it started it was blazing hot, then the sun set mid jam. By the end of Dew, it was chilly cold. Timed perfectly. Midnight Hour encore. It was my tour buddy's birthday (Karsten. You still out there buddy?). I recall several Peanuts Pigpen dust clouds all three days from all the dancing. The next morning, I couldn't find my car keys. After frantically searching for an hour, another buddy had them in his back pocket the whole time. Then found out someone siphoned the gas from my tank. Had to push (comes to shove) my truck down a grade to the gas station. Grate times. Wouldn't change it for the world. These NEED to be released....
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KeithFan: I'm familiar with 99% of that GD music mix you put together...a masterful job! I got a flashback just reading it! Excellent taste, sir! JiminMD: You mention how Eyes Of The World "pulled you towards the light." Are you aware that Eyes Of The World is taken from the title of a book by "Longchen Rabjam" (1308-1363) one of the greatest masters of "dzogchen," the "great perfection," the highest level of ecstatic Tibetan Buddhism? Eyes of the World is one of his books! Extremely enlightening stuff...though my favorite book by him is: "A Treasure Trove of Spiritual Transmission."
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Jerry started out the 6-22-76 show at The Tower Theatre in Philly with US Blues, There was a huge US Flag by Keith's piano. When He was playing lead, He would face it. I liked Mars Hotel, I have a copy on cassette tape.
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Haha, yeah, I'm pretty much a one trick mule, but I do have one or two tricks up my sleeve. If you think this was a surprise, just wait until my Throwing Stones Reprise urge kicks in (circa Pine Knob '91) and I unleash an 80s/90s playlist! It's funny, I usually do go for shows, not mixes, but as I browsed my library, I saw so many Pigpen nuggets I wanted to hear.... Pigpen Pigpen.
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Coming up on 40 years of "doing" Dead. Last month on my way to Yosemite, coming out of Needles, CA heading across desert, had a kick ass eyes playing, got to the last line, "sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own" and the tears were running down my face, so yeah, Inspiring shit indeed sir!
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Happy B'day Sir Paul.
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Did they really play Lovelight twice on 4/27/69? It's kind of weird how this release was edited. It looks like a large section of the 4/26 show was left off, but the entire 4/27 show was included in its entirety, giving us two long Lovelights. I wonder, since there do not appear to be concerns about releasing partial shows, why not edit out one of the Lovelights from 2/27, so that more of 2/26 could be provided? Or why not add a 3rd disc and release two complete shows? I can only assume audio problems with the missing 2/26 material. Does anyone know anything about thsee questions? It would be cool if they drafted up some detailed liner notes for Dicks Picks releases... Edit - Note: this post was brought to you by the letter "e" (entirely in its entirety). Double Edit - As I listen to this, I can kind of answer my own questions. It looks like they didn't so much play Lovelight twice, so much as they played a big-ass 100 minute medley, in the former of a Lovelight sandwich. It's more like this release is the 4/27 show, featuring bonus material from 4/26, which has been included first, for which are now obvious reasons. At this point, I should really just delete this post, or edit it down to "Dick's Picks needs better liner notes".
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someone sent me this woman, do a youtube search for Jess Greenberg. Just her and an acoustic guitar in bedroom. pretty sweet.
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as i recall, the open with it, transition around, and then end the show with the reprise. 6/14/69 i think has lovelight interspersed with other stuff three times. me love you three times.
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Since D. Duryea reminds us of Paul McCartney's birthday, I was wondering...has anyone ever "judged" someone as being compatible to you (or not) based on their Beatle preference? For example, if someone tells you they like Paul better than John and/or George, do you automatically rule them out as someone you can get along with?
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Really have been enjoying the 78 box. It is quite tasty indeed. Was quite fascinated that on 7/5 they divided the lysergic jam sequence. I had never noticed them doing that before. Does anyone know how often they did that? Then I became completely intrigued by the fact that D&C did that again last night. Maybe the first lysergic jam sequence in 30 plus years...and to divide the jam sequence is very fascinating and I am guessing a tip to 78. Glad to see the cryptical messaging is going forward.
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Only if they say they like Yoko best.
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too funny. I have never even thought about that before. Hmmm, guess it is time to question my close family, friends, and associates. I mean, after all, you gotta be careful in whom you trust.
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Happy Father's Day to all the Wonderful Father's, and to the surrogates and to those trying their best. Thanks for all you do as it appears to be harder than ever to live up to what is expected these days. Hope you have a great weekend!
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Rules (the nomenklatura lives!):  Entries must include date and venue of concert.  One guess per screen name via PM to me only, and your screen name must have been created prior to 6/16/2016. Duplicate entries will be ignored.  Please keep this fun by not posting your guesses on any forums here. Embrace the mystery!  Entries will be reviewed in the order they appear in my inbox.  The first person to correctly solve the riddle will receive a Dead-themed piece of original artwork of my choosing created by a well-known artist (largely dependent on how much old vine Zinfandel I’ve consumed at the time!).  Here’s the Deal…the riddle for this Grateful Giveaway will not appear in this particular forum: you just gotta poke around. Have fun!
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Thanks Bolo, poke around sounds fun. Although I am a terrible Riddler. Sir Paul, happy birthday. Turned it by MTVLive (formerly Palladia) and they are showing Paul and Wings: Rock. Grooving to that right now. Must start poking around... Edit: Guess I would be the riddlee?
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Yeah I went and checked her on YouTube So that's how it's done now eh? Full makeup and tatas jumping out! All that for YouTube? Wow! I guess it is a global platform.............things have changed for sure .....haha Let me toss ya one. Nikki Talley. She just won 2nd place at Telluride Bluegrass yesterday! Nikki lays it down like a real blues mama. But hey that's just my take!
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Good question. I came close in the old days and now explain to youngsters how it went. 1st was were you a Paul or John fan. In my eyes John fans were more out there, troublemakers whereas guys who were Paul fans were anachronisticly a bit light etc. But it goes further were you a Stones fan ( 60's) or Beatles with the same personality breakdown. Some won't agree but growing up in the 60's that's pretty accurate
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Oh yeah admiting you liked Yoko would get you beat up
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Good news - I don't think it's harder to live up to paternal expectations than in the past - I think it's easier. Why? Because there are so many more books and studies and workshops on good fatherhood than ever before. Also, there are clear expectations and norms nowadays, where in the past, there were very murky guidelines, and inadequate means of measuring success. A simpler way of looking at it: in the past, you had to figure out the correct strategy, learn the playbook, AND execute it. Nowadays, all you have to do is learn the playbook and execute.
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I hear jrf will point you in the right direction for a cold IPA and a kind veggie grilled cheese sandwich. I'm a still looking for this god forsaken riddle.. might have to finish in the am.
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For Father's Day I got a box containing various Asian beers. Some I recognize, some I don't, some I have heard of, some I haven't. Only one have I ever tried before, Tsingtao from China. I drunk some in China in 1988 when the rest of the beer in China (and believe me there was an awful lot of it) was of dubious quality at best. One of the most surreal sights I have ever seen was a Chinese beer convoy rolling south across the desolate Tibetan plateau. Maybe 50 trucks all loaded with beer travelling in a long line, witnessed almost exclusively by herds of disinterested yaks. Ah, memories of pleasant times gone by.
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Since it costs a lot to win, and even more to lose,You and me bound to spend some time wond'rin' what to choose.
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Big shout out to Space Bro for bringing up the 88 Laguna Seca shows! I have been enjoying the hell outta em' all weekend! You the (Space) man!
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....hope your day is a grate one. My cousin is visiting Vegas. My cousin in arms. Spent yesterday lounging at the Hard Rock Hotel pool, drinking smuggled vodka and cranberry and enjoying the two-piece views (wink, wink). The Dan tonight is our focal point for the day. Stay kind you old farts.....did someone say Laguna Seca?
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I think I'll get two. One for downstairs and one for upstairs.
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Get two of those and you would have to have eight arms, then you would qualify as an octopus, no?
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First off, happy Father's Day to all the Grateful Dads out there. That, in turn, reminds me of the 'Make America Grateful Again' Jim brought up. That's hilarious / awesome, any political thoughts one way or the other aside. On the Youtube gal, I'll give her props on her pipes (Vocals that is..dirty minds). I haven't kept up with the latest sensations, but here's a few of my favorite non-professional female Youtubers: Fine & Agatha - Two French (I presume?) gals covering Tom Waits, among many other good ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPM7kyoPhs Kiersten Holine, Boots of Spanish Leather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9cxMT0Rro I love the title of this one, Punk Accordion Player and some Nuns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0P0EvJOfRQ Lilania Rose..Some may say she's reminiscent of Joan Baez, but she reminds me of Elvis. Battle Hymn of the Republic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js_hFNpaS38 And to repeat myself (again), this gal doing Highway 61 in ASL is super cool: https://vimeo.com/30210906 On July '78...finally finished my first run through the box, with several repeats in between. 7/7 is the one that does it for me so far...maybe it was just the aftermath, but 7/8 was rather lackluster to me. Onward to repeat listens. In regards to our Stephen King discussions, started The Stand earlier this week. It is the uncut / bonus scene version from what I gather, about 60% through so far. It has certainly held my attention in a weird, gnawing, apocalyptic way, but not one where I would say there is any character that I actually like so far. Maybe the mute... Really liked the CBS Morning Show link that was posted, thanks. I love that show, but rarely think to catch it lately. Lastly, any bets for tonight, Splash Brothers vs. The James Gang?
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Saw your post about listening to the Dead uninterrupted in Heaven. I'm hopingfor a Heaven where we can actually see them live, any year, any show. Behind door #1, Sunshine Daydream, Veneta, OR, 8/27/72; behind door #2, Rockin' The Rhein, 4/24/72; door #3, Fillmore East, 2/13/70, etc.....kind of like time travelling, only without the Delorean.
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Lost as well.. I am just getting to my first guess. Ken Goodman / Eyes of the World - I did not know about the connection, but it doesn't surprise me. Cool stuff. Finally.. today in Grateful Dead History on SiriusXM is featuring one of the FE shows from 6/20/1969. I am not seeing the setlists on Setlists.net.. interesting stuff, its a Bear cassette during the transitional period.. some rare stuff, Pedal Steel.. some Pigpen. It just wreaks of that era of the Mountain Girl returned tapes that I feel we will be getting soon.. Perhaps never done before is a hybrid acoustic/electric show(s)?
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After CAV's historic victory, I've observed an equanimity of joyousness throughout the city, clear through the usual divisions of race, age, gender, etc., a beautiful afterglow that (at some level) will never go away. I wonder if the same euphoria, transcending race, age, gender, etc. will be evident at the upcoming Republican convention. lol!
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You spoke of time travelling; in a Delorean???? That's just crazy movie bullshit. EVERYONE knows you need a Police Box to time travel :-)
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I checked out your picks, the accordion player was neat, I think she was playing "hurray up she's rises/early in the morning". I like that stomping on wood style. Here's a nice link to a great accordion display of the "indifference waltz", guy really uses instrument to max effect. That Roland FR7 electric accordion is amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjCfBo-R38 Agathe & Fine was nice, what shocked me most was the fullness of the bass sound when the second woman started playing the guitar. Didn't know if it was the recording or she had a bass string on her guitar. Kiersten Holine, Boots of Spanish Leather was VERY good, I thought she was going to cry near the end, her voice was so full of emotion. I watched several of her videos. I laughed to myself though because I wondered if she was really playing a guitar since I never saw one :-) I also wondered who sang with her. Lilania had nice voice, The Battle Hymn only moves me so much (though it's one of the songs I sing to myself). Didn't see an Elvis connection. The Highway 61 in sign language is neat to watch, I've seen that one before.
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hey any chance you can recommend some Bob Dylan shows from 1975, I have one official release Bootleg Series, I think its called "Rolling Thunder" I am seeking more from this period, purchased this when it was released and it got a ton of spins. A few years ago this release took total control of my car stereo and it did not eject for months also looking for more stuff related to "Another Side of Bob Dylan" album , probably my favorite
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Found the riddle as well; got past the 1st clue, which narrowed things down to a dozen shows. I picked the wrong one though.
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Happy Solstice to all... Caught Dylan at Red Rocks last night, second row, center. Great music, great band, Bob did rockin', boppin' versions of many classics (Tangled Up in Blue, She Belongs to Me, Blowin' in Wind, Early Roman Kings, too many for instant recall, plus ballads off the latest digression CD)... But, I digress: JimInMD mentioned DaP 19 guess/wish: "Mountain Girl returned tapes that I feel we will be getting soon.. Perhaps never done before is a hybrid acoustic/electric show(s)?" MDJim, we did get the one-disc 4-18-70 with that beautiful Pigpen set and I'm thinking the preceding band material was a hybrid acoustic/electric ensemble, but I'd have to check. So, "something different" is hard to pin down.. we've had returned tapes (check), we've had a sample of the Mtn Grl tape stash (check), we've had returned Bettys (78 box, check), we've had misc returned tapes that made a show whole again (DaP 10 Thelma, check), we've had the bulk of two shows in one release (DaP 18 and others, check), what's left for uniqueness? I doubt it's an 80s show with DVD (if worthy, that'd be a standalone release). I still like the notion of several 75-min shows in chrono fashion in one DaP, which could be a 3-night stand from 68-70 era (if that ever happened), or 3-disc release of a one-disc 68, one-disc 69, one-disc 70, although that's far-fetched... I"d say Bolo parachuted in to rile the masses just before an announcement... Not that there's anything wrong with riling the masses -- I mean, that's what rock 'n roll does, right? Help me out, people. As long as there's some grease in DaP 19 and ya know what that means!
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I just got this. I can't believe how good this is. I was sitting through the first show on 11/9/73, thinking OMG I can't believe people don't talk about this show more (highlight was Here Comes Sunshine), and then 11/10 was next, and it was even better than the 9th (really love the Playing / UJB / Morning Dew / UJB / Playing, and then to top it off, 11/11 had that great Dark Star / Eyes of the World and Loose Lucy. And even better, I got it for $99, same cost as it was here. If you don't have this, you should grab it while the price is low (you know it won't last!) Anyone else love this box set???
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One of my favourite box sets as well. The bonus disk is killer too. Of course I love 73 Dead.
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Its been 3 months and not sold out yet - I had said it'd still be available - they haven't even done the "only 500 left" banner. Specifically I wrote "15,000 copies? 15,000 sounds aggressive, especially since they will be available as cheaper digital downloads as well. And the setlists look indistinguishable from May '77 box just 10 months before (except for Werewolves) since the Shakedown Street material didn't debut until a few months later...". I also mentioned TTATS box hangover and the fact that '78 doesn't loom as large in GD live show mythology as the top years.... Winterland '73 is incredible - 1973 is sometimes my fav year. Sometimes.
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