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The May 1977 Box Set took 8 months to sell out 15K. July 1978 has only been on sale for 3 months, so there is plenty of time for it to at least match May 1977's performance, if not beat it.

Thanks for the response. I am not a parent. It did not occur to me that with the expansion of technology and knowledge that it would be easier to gather a ton of information from people that have already walked those paths. Gave me a completely different perspective. I was just trying to say thanks to the fathers that really try to put their kids first because I am sure that is a tough stressful job. Thanks again!

Our PBS stations have been running the 50th Anniversary Show of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. If you get a chance to watch it, I am sure you will enjoy. It is from the Ryman earlier this year. I am going to buy the dvd for sure. Ties in with the country and Nashville discussion a few days back. More on that shortly.

Hi Gary, Thank you, I sure did appreciate your comment (as a Dad). I understood you were well-wishing, and as I look over my post, I don't think I conveyed my appreciation at what you said, sorry for that. I have a more difficult time than most, I think, conveying my thoughts on a public site like this - it never comes out quite the way I intend it (or I wildly overstate things in my attempt to make sure I've properly expressed my thoughts). Anyway, I was trying to say that I think guys like me have it easier than our Dad's before us. I would have no excuse to be a crappy Dad (and I hope I'm not!)

Any time a release is available in download form, the sale of the physical product will be slowed considerably. Look at May '77 and Spring '90 TOO. Both are about as good as it gets musically, but with more & more folks opting for the downloads, cd sales will be slower then if the downloads were not available. I am an old fart so I will always opt for the physical product. The Mrs. is not happy! As far as Winterland '73, it is just AWESOME! Each show is better then the one before it. I spoke to DL2 on this and he puts one show in the top 5 all time, and the other two in the top 10 all time. Tough to beat that score! Rock on

As for Winterland '73.. it goes down as one of my all time favorites. I think I just spoke highly of it a couple weeks ago perhaps on this thread. Good job, LJ. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Unique set lists, inspired playing, Deep Space 9 on that Dark Star > Eyes of the World.. the 5th and 6th To Lay Me Down's, and they are touching.. Someone years ago posted that the Big River's alone (there are three) made it worth the price of admission alone. Can't say I think that's the high water mark of the box, but he did and they are excellent. Great stuff, I don't have a bad thing to say about Winterland '73 (or Winterland '77 for that matter). Ahh.. I got HendrixFreak to pop out of the woodwork. Have they done an acoustic/electric Dave's Picks? I think the April 18th, 1970 Family Dog was all acoustic. Correct? I am still channeling Returned Tapes. They have em.. we know they are releasable quality and now they have more. And I am guessing they are around 1970 also.

LJ, thanks, I didn't realize it took that long to sell out. SUCH an amazing box. Each show on that box is great - like Europe '72. I put 2 '77 Box shows in my rotation last week and they were both fan-tastic.

....back on the "something we've never done before". I'm still on my guest artists/WelnickHornsby release soapbox. The pendulum swings both ways. Steely Dan was great, but is it a sin to say Winwood's set raised an unattainable bar? He simply killed it. He pulled out Band of Gypsy's "Changes" and dropped my jaw. The Dan's drummer was spot on every tune however. Keith Carlock. Remember that name people. A rhythm machine all night.....

I came here to sing the praises of the Winterland '73 box (which I am listening to right now), and '73 in general, which has always been my favorite year, but see I am just a few posts too late ;) Happy coincidence, huh? I was even prepared to open a can of worms in order to profess my '73 love. But glad to see I am still plugged into the collective Dead consciousness sometimes, and tonight specifically, and we're all in agreement. Nothing else need be said.

There must be something in the air, as I too have been playing this box set constantly in my car. I was a little put off by the "flat" sound of the first few songs on the first disc of 11/9, but by the time they hit that quick "TLEO," I stop noticing it as much and then the INCREDIBLE playing, (and the incredible "Playin's") take over. While it is tough to call, I would have to say that 11/10 is my favorite right now, with disc 5 being one of my favorite discs of GD I own. Perhaps it was the coinciding of the Summer Solstice and the Strawberry Moon. You know the last time that happened? 06/21/67 Polo Field, Golden Gate Park - San Francisco, CA Now, if anyone knows that setlist... - - I bet it was groovy and GREASY. Peace all!

Dead and Company killed it last night. Highlights for me were All Along the Watchtower and the insane jam during Eyes of The World. Everything still tastes like beer and smoke.

I personally would love a 90's release, especially if Bruce is along for the ride, always loved those late 90's 91 shows, Bruce really added something to the band that hadn't been there for years. Dead and Co. love Bobby and Mickey and Billy, but I like my Dead with some mystery and magic, which this band does not deliver. Best part of the shows? Drums and space. Saw Bobby on Sunday morning a few weeks ago, talking about his legacy. Said he had a dream and saw a 20's something guy doing his job, can't think of one person who could fill Bobby's shoes, just like there will never be another Jerry, there will never be another Bobby. I prefer Ratdog over any of the other reincarnations of the band. The Dead and co. pasteurized and filter dead, Further, just pasteurized. Didn't really care for further either, but they had the music in them and they just had to play but no X factor. Bobby looks bad with the beard, and he looks like he doesn't take care of himself very well, unkempt and looks like a bum. Doesn't really fit him well, but I'm sure he doesn't think about it much. The beard, well, I always thought a beard just meant that you were too lazy to shave, or in some cases, can't shave (skin condition). Which do you think is Bobby's reason for not shaving? A close friend just died from cancer, does anybody know how Phil is doing? Heard he had a brush with the big C, hope all is well with him (not that I'm a big fan). Recently Cancer has reared it's ugly head among some of my circle, it's usually a killer, some last a bit longer, but it usually kills you fast. There was a saying or a quote or something like that that said, live life to the fullest everyday, you never know when the grim reaper will appear. "no one here gets out alive" make everyday grate, call or visit loved ones, kiss all the babies and turn on as many as you can to this wonderful music, it's the best thing that you can do.

I too feel that we are in for a release from the 90's.Bring it on! Rock on

Just got a mail from the Garcia Store stating that my copy of GarciaLive Vol. 6 has shipped.

I haven't gotten mine yet, but am very excited about this release.

Two shows on the same day at the same venue,on luxurious DaP 19, either a 69 or 70 offing, gone off the idea of an issue with guests etc,royalties and other issues would probably make this more suitable for a Rhino general release. Love all those Bob Dylan Bootleg Series,I'm quite partial to the Tell Tale Signs Vol 8. Still working on the 2nd listen to the July 78 Box,too much to listen to,so little time,I can't help but feel guilty sometimes for neglecting those other wonderful boxes. Maybe the next Box is a 70 or 71 run, I can hear Steve Winwood singing 'Changes' in my mind although I don't recall hearing him sing this before, I wish I had been there,time to unearth my Traffic and Winwood solo debut vinyl.

I too am stoked for the new '73 Garcia release. It's partially because those releases are so much less frequent, but I tend to listen to them again and again, while I listen to GD releases once or twice. Maybe I am just in a GD lull, but after hearing 500 hours of live GD releases, I seldom come across the "this song/moment/segue/whatever is worth the price of admission right there" moment. Not that I don't appreciate them releasing sweet Betty boards, or MG '70 stashes, but I'm at the point where the incremental value of the next GD release is reduced by me having 15 official shows from '77, 30 from '72, already.* OTOH, there have been relatively few releases from JG side projects, and releases like Keystone Companions, I keep coming back to again and again. I just love that stuff and Saunders/Garcia/Kahn & Vitt is completely different than Reconstruction or JGB with Nicky Hopkins, or JGB with the Godcheaux. Just my opinion....not meant to be a downer about GD, which I still listen to most days. lol * - numbers have been made up and may not be representative

One of my all-time favorite releases. The original double LP was great, and the Keystone Encores added to that, but the complete Keystone Companions is just so good it defies description. IMHO.

we are lucky to have that little box, aren't we? My Funny Valentine, Like A Road, etc., just love it. And now we have a show from earlier in the week to whet the chops. I simply can't believe all the riches we have to listen to this July whose anniversary dates are either brand new or recently released. !!!

Just got my shipping notice, perfectly timed for the well received hype. Yes.. deadicated, a great time to have a mailbox with a stealie on it.

Dennis - That electric accordion is sweet. I've been thinking about getting an accordion...I have more or less developed a habit of trying every folk instrument in some capacity or the other. Dulcimer was the most recent..and I haven't exactly quit my day job yet, we'll say. Mbarilla - The Rolling Thunder Bootleg Series release is probably my favorite of the bunch too, and probably my favorite tour of his, period. It's a compilation from alot of the shows in the Fall '75 tour that was the first phase of the Rolling Thunder Revue, through the northeast. In terms of official releases, I think the only other one you'll find is the live album Hard Rain which is from the second leg of the RTR, spring 1976. It was a very different tour in terms of mood, musical style, arrangements and even songs played. Hard Rain has some great performances (Idiot Wind) and generally good reviews, but I generally much prefer the first leg from Fall '75. For bootlegs then, the most well-distributed is probably "The Knight of the Hurricane" from 12/8/75 at MSG. This was the last stop on the tour and was a benefit for Hurricane Carter, with several guest appearances, including Muhammad Ali. Can read more here: http://www.bobsboots.com/CDs/cd-k04.html There are several good ones, though not all great sound quality. Another of my favorite is the second show of the tour, 10/31/75 in Plymouth. Last one I'll mention just more for a historical prespective, Toronto 12/2/75 is the only one I have of the full Revue show. Over 4 hours..Bobby Neuwirth, T-Bone Burnett, Steven Soles, Rob Stoner, Mick Ronson, Neuwirth again, Ronee Blakely, Neuwirth again, Ronnie Hawkins, Joni Mitchell, Neuwirth again, Ramblin' Jack, Dylan, Baez, Dylan & Baez, Roger McGuinn, Gordon Lightfoot, Dylan and the whole band, etc. Don't think I've ever listened to it all at once, but it captures what they were going for. On that note, would highly recommend the book On The Road Again with Bob Dylan by Larry "Ratso" Sloman. He traveled with the group and is probably the most in-depth on the tour. Also, Dylan recorded the film Renaldo & Clara on that tour. Lot of bizarre plot / attempts at acting with the whole group, but lot of great live clips in there as well. It's on Youtube in pieces, and probably whole somewhere too. Also check out "The World of John Hammond" segment from September '75, before the Rolling Thunder tour. He did three songs with some of the group he recorded Desire with and would include on the RTR. First live performance of Hurricane and Oh, Sister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8obt4YNUe0 Regarding Another Side and 1964, one of my favorite albums too. The Bootleg Series Vol 6, the one after RTR, is a live release from 10/31/64, which is about four and a half months after Another Side was recorded. I like that one, but some people can't handle his particularly nasal vocals on that one. It includes several of the new Another Side songs, as well as some from the forthcoming Bringing It All Back Home. Don't think people knew what to make of Gates of Eden and It's Alright, Ma for some of the first performances of those. He's also talking alot and cracking jokes. There aren't many other good bootlegs for live performances from 1964, though absolutely check out Chimes of Freedom live from the Newport Folk Festival that year on Youtube. Probably the best bet for that year is to acquire the legally released (but in very small number) 50th Anniversary Collection: 1964. This was something they started in 2012 for the 50 year copyright of the songs from 1962 that hadn't been released, and basically have continued all the way through 1965/2015 so far. I have them all but haven't even scratched the surface. Not all is in great quality, and others have been heavily bootlegged already, but there are new gems in there. Here's 1964: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_50th_Anniversary_Collection_1964 Let me know if you want any of the ones that are legal bootlegs, I can upload and send a link. Anyways sorry to ramble. Though that was the short answer. :/

Are you kidding? 7/8/78. The whole second set? What about 10/29/77? 6/10/73?, um, 3/9 and 10 '81. 9/2/80? Wha?-edit- Unless, you're saying you're not impressed by what has been released so far. I feel like they have a lot left in the bank...

I have to side with Wilfred on this, but to Syracuse's point.. I am not getting in the multiple listens on releases I used to. I also am very psyched for this Garcia release for a multitude of reasons, high on the list is the era, how well they were playing during this period and diversity. Speaking of second listens.. I think its San Diego '73 for my after work bike ride. Its the longest day of the year, for the most part still a strawberry moon and a glorious evening in the eastern foothills. No cars, great vistas from the ridges.. I highly recommend it. Off I go.

The discussion of conveying thoughts on this board is something I have discussed with several in PM's. So it is fitting that you spoke of this also. It is so difficult to convey tone and texture of nuanced conversations on a 2d medium we use around here. Your thoughts are my thoughts for sure. I need to slow down and do a better job of proofreading and all. But who has time for that??? I just believe you are an awesome dad!!!

On Saturday I wrote about the 7/5/78 division of the lysergic jam sequence. Did not get a single response. I am trying to figure out if there was no interest in the post or whether some folks do not know what the lysergic jam sequence is? Especially because, even though I am not a huge follower of D&C, I found it very interesting that they did another lysergic jam sequence and divided it on Friday night. Any help would be appreciated.

Some inspiration there, indeed...P.S. Went for 12/28/79 post-Space tonight for a taste of some Good Lovin'

I read that and was intrigued if it was a specifically named jam sequence or just the euphoric peaking as the music ebbed and flowed on one of those glorious trip shows. That show is the least listen to from the box. I was so looking forward to this show just from Orboros' story... I have to dig deeper into it when I can listen to it as a whole and properly gestate it. And as we all know there must be a balance in the universe so when there's the peaks there's also the dark crevices requiring a visit to Charon to see if one can make it back. Most people do...

Yeah I know everone knows that... L azy Lightning S upplication D eal or Lost Sailor/Saint So Friday when D&C also played the jam I was intrigued to see it. Especially as it was a 2nd Set opener of Dark Star. Have not had a chance to look yet. (Edit: to look and see if any post Grateful Dead group has played that, I am sure Phil has??? And when was the last jam sequence, seems like it may have been 1986) Obviously, Grateful Dead never played that form of the jam. Nice. I will have to listen to some of it...

Lazy Lightnin' Supplication Deal Just to clarify for boblopes

I am there also. I am drowning in official releases. I cannot at this time add all of the Jerry releases everyone is discussing. That will start hopefully later this year. I am loving this problem, however. The house is constantly rocking, a good thing. Sometimes I wonder if I made it back or not...

For me, Muleskinner, a legal Dylan bootleg (though I enjoy many) doesn't have that magic feeling of being a "true" bootleg. Some of my favorite actual Bob bootlegs are--"Born Again Bob"...a compilation (I made) of some of his amazing Christian performances, like in Toronto, etc. "A Bird Nest In Your Hair" Extremely strong, soul-shaking London performance, 6/29/81. "Almost Went To See Elvis: Nashville bootleg with Charlie Daniels on bass. "With Johnny Cash": From which the immortal Nashville Skyline track "Girl From the North Country" is taken. The rest of the CD is bizarre! Sounds like they're stoned, drunk & tripping. "Freewheelin' Outtakes" with amazing minor-key ballad The Death of Emmitt Till. "Knight of the Hurricane" although in my purchase, CD 2 is identical to CD 1, so I missed out on half. That's what happens with bootlegs! "Live At Palaeur" (Italy) with Mick Taylor, fresh out of the Stones. 2 Fantastic CDs. Great version of When You Gonna Wake Up. "Ring Them Bells" (Oh Mercy) outtakes 1989. Love it because I love the song Ring Them Bells. Quite a few others...

Will listen intently! Thanks everyone! Found my bedtime music for tonight!!!

Are you kidding? 7/8/78. The whole second set? What about 10/29/77? 6/10/73?, um, 3/9 and 10 '81. 9/2/80? Wha?-edit- Unless, you're saying you're not impressed by what has been released so far. I feel like they have a lot left in the bank... I'm not saying that they have released everything that is great or release-worthy (like sponge-worthy). I'm just saying that I tend to listen to the new GD releases, a lot of which I've heard many times before (77/78 and 7/8/78 for instance) a couple of times. 7/8/78 is a great show, but it's not like hearing a completely different band than I've heard on, I don't know, 25 or 30 shows that have been officially released that took place within 12 months of it. Hey, my first show was in 1978. And I still love them 38 years later. And I saw 2 out of 3 of the FTW shows. They are a BIG part of my life! But when you have 500 or whatever hours of live GD that has been officially released, and most of it is from the late '60s to the late '70s, new releases start to have diminishing returns. Has any other band released 10% of the # of live shows the GD have? Other than the last few years where bands sell every single show? It's just logic.

but as others have said, that one would likely be a general release due to its mythical stature and sales potential. I would also expect a little snake-like figure with a camera or eye at one end hidden somewhere in the cover art, when 6/10/73 is finally released. Speaking of, I went to doctor the other week, had to have some tests done, anyway he tells me, "Remember, only clear liquids after midnight tonight." I said, "No problem. So vodka is ok then, right?"

Is 5/14/74, Missoula, MT. The second set scares me and gives me nightmares if I listen to it after dark. We will see if I make it to the end. Syracuse - nice Seinfeld reference.

I don't believe that. The man who kayaks class v rapids at dusk while listening to Dark Star fears nothing ;)

Ha.. I had a rough spring this year and learned a valuable lesson about doing serious stuff while listening to scary dark stars. ..and yes, it was after work and a quarter to dark. I took such a beating and the music was so intense as I was getting hammered (the atonal part of 4/8/72's Empire Pool show).. that by the time I swam to and got back in my boat the music had totally spooked my grove. I had to fast forward my way right out of that show and into the next. Even then I had to drift forward into the set list until I found a seemingly soothing '73 Eyes of the World before I could get my sh*t together and finish the river. The rest of the evening was uneventful except for the resulting pucker factor and the whole in my dry suit where my elbow once was. It was one of those days.. My elbow still hurts. I take my Stars much more seriously now.. what's that Hot Tuna song, True Religion? Now I see the light.. it was just like that D. Lemieux mountain biking video where he ran into a bear except in my case it was caused by the 4/8/72 mayhem. Wisdom, religion, who knows. Speaking of kayaking, anyone seen Kayak Guy recently?

I've never been there like quite like that on the river, but I feel it, nonetheless, when you tell the tale. I was always more the backpacker, exploring the trails. When someone on my job starts talking sheet about how tough he is, I ask him, have you ever spent even a single night alone in the woods? No? Then stfu, you have no clue, "tough guy" in the city, phone call away from help, would probably piss your pants hearing a racoon rustle the leaves at night, lol, stfu ;) Sorry to rant. Also, vodka is to blame! Just one question...should I pour another?

My favorite backpacking story was doing the AT through Smokey Mountain National Park my Sr. year in high school. There were rules (I hate rules) that you had to sleep in the designated shelters and had to sign up for them in advance. well.. said the straight man to the late man, we got off schedule by a day, so we arrived at the shelter on our last night a day late and it was pouring rain as we arrived. It was also full. ..but the kind folks there made room for us to sleep and we were bushed.. but there was a catch.. The shelters were basically bear proof shells with a tarpaper roof if memory serves, and they could sleep 12, 6 on the bottom, 6 up top. The bunks were essentially logs with wire cage type material that made the bed. We were given the three 'bunks' just above the ground but they had a family of skunks that set up home just below my wire cage business that I slept on. It took a tired, weary soul and the observation that these skunks were used to people to sleep there that night.. plus the fact that it poured all night and there was no where else to go. In the am as people left and we were making breakfast, (yes. we were the last to leave, how do you think we wound up being a day behind schedule in the first place).. the baby skunks came right up to us wanting food. It was a crack up.. we ended up feeding them from our hands and took pics (sorry, I now know this was wrong, but..) I remember it was Kodak disc camera that my folks let me borrow for the trip. I'd kill for those pictures now. I wonder where they are. Anyway.. all three of us were heads, still good friends, we were young and cutting our teeth with the same stuff we still do today, except I have graduated to a boat instead of comfy hiking sneakers and Dave's Picks instead of hissy tapes. oh and grass is now on its way to being legal. My how the world has changed, yet its still the same. Cool trip. The Smokey's rock.

11/9/73 Eyes is pretty amazing, I must say. And China Doll after likewise really hits the spot. Good night, all.

I never made it to the Smokeys (I remember reading about those chain link fenced lean-tos you had to stay in because of the bears), but did a good bit of the AT mostly in the Northeast...most of NY, all of CT (probably my favorite stretch), lots of PA, MA, VT, and even did a week down in GA. Maybe someday I'll tell ya the story of the "witch's song" I heard on the trail that seemed to be trying to draw me off the trail and deeper into the woods...

We're all ears. About the Appellation Trail, I always thought I would do the whole thing one day. How's that song go? All the things I planned to do... I only did halfway? I doubt if I made much more than 10% of it. Now parts of it are thick with deer ticks carrying Lyme disease and my feet begin to swell and hurt by the start of the second set.

It was a youthful dream of mine to hike the whole thing at once, but it never panned out. And now it's way too late in the game to even consider...even if financial constraints weren't there, I don't think the wife would put up with me being gone for 5 1/2 months, lol. Anyway, I was about 18 or 19, on one of my AT trips for a few days to a week, I was hiking alone, don't even remember where now, but in the NE. And as I'm hiking along the trail, I hear off in the distance what sounds like a cross between a woman crying or singing. It's hard to explain, I can still hear it in my mind, but it has a very sad quality to it, and I'm drawn towards it to find out what it is. I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it all these years later, that sing song mournful voice. But there are no houses nearby, nor towns, im in the middle of nowhere, and I hear this woman crying/singing off in the woods. So I start to leave the trail in the direction of the singing/crying, and after hiking for a while in the direction I thought the sound was coming from, all of a sudden it comes from what seems like deeper in the woods but from a slightly different direction, and so I adjust my course accordingly, and set off in the new direction. This happens a couple more times, and I keep heading off in different directions towards the sound, and as I'm now strugling with more and more dense brush and now in a bog (swamp) area, it starts to dawn on me that quite a bit of time has passed in a sort of dream state and I'm never actually getting any closer to this singing/crying woman sound, but Im now quite a ways off the trail and halfway into a swamp. I turned around and somehow found my way back to the trail and got the phuck out of there. I'm convinced to this day that something was trying to lure me off the trail and deeper into the woods and not for any good reason (and I'm not one who has a problem with the woods at all, but this was different). Anyway, that's my AT ghost story.

Since I quit getting any semblance of work done over an hour ago and Missoula is into the placid part of Dark Star, the first verse is beginning now.. I had best get to sleep before the atonal madness starts or I will surely have nightmares. Haunted, witches nightmares. I heard some strange sounds camping in Glacier National Park once that remind me of your story, they sounded like a screeching witch or a big cat in heat but that's a tale for another night. We never did figure out what they were but they scared the crap out of us, we were in the middle of nowhere. My brother was along on that trip, I will have to ask him all these years later if he knows what the hell they were. Uh oh.. its starting, what a great Dark Star.. but nightmares for sure.. oh my..

I know all the strange sounds out there. For example, a black bear cub can sound just like a human baby crying. I know the difference. But this was something completely different. I don't know of any animal that sounds like a women alternately crying and singing/moaning an atonal song with no words. Do you?

The thing we heard at Glacier was spooky too, kept us up all night. It sounded like it was a mile or two away but it was loud and filled up the entire canyon we were sleeping in. We had our food tied up high, far away from where we were camping, but I recall not changing clothes before we went to sleep, so we didn't totally bury our scents. We were in the middle of nowhere too.. We never figured it out, but none of us slept a wink that night. It sounded like a witch moaning, that's the only way I can describe it. We talked about it the next day a lot, the only thing we could figure was cougar fighting or in heat?? but I that is just a guess. I bet someone out there can speculate better than I am 25 years after the fact. Never heard anything like it before or since. That was a great climbing trip.. The beginning of what became a successful ascent of Devils Tower. Back when we were young and invincible with no responsibilities to speak of whatsoever. Was Donna into backpacking? (kidding, hold the rotten tomatoes).

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Late October/early November. Location, northern Michigan and off season in a campground void of anyone else. Middle of the night. Light rain pattering on the tent....by myself, alone, sleeping.... and then I was shot awake by a blood curdling Khali goddess scream that echoed primal and wretched through the bleak anonymity of the forest. And then I heard it again... and again... and again.... My heart started pounding on the outside of my chest, yes, like 4/8/72 Wembley Dark Star (while dubbed over The Conjuring). My nervous system became a taught pole of terror and petrification. And the only thing that kept me from insanely packing everything up into the back of the car like a madman and hightailing it back to the city 200 miles away was fear that the commotion of doing so would give me away and result in the supernatural flaying of my much loved corporeal self (so in other words, a simple a lack of manly courage, I suppose). But in the morning I woke up, alive, sun shining, leaves lightly falling... so I decided to just forget the whole freakish event. Life is strange ya know? And you can’t give credence to every bump you hear in the middle of the night . Only a year or two later did I lean that the blood curdling shrieks I heard were foxes fighting for winter territory, as they do that time of year.....

This show presents constant and repeated epiphanies and for me. It's one of THE most exciting releases of all-time. There's something new and fresh with each listen for me. And, I have been a fan since '93.P.S. Turning it up loud helps.

Since we're running thru camping stories..... We once camped with my wife's entire family in Savoy State park in Massachusetts. Her father grew up in North Adams and this is where he spend a chunk of his youth. Two things happened on this trip.... First my brother-in-law, a Jersey City boy, who never spent a day in the woods was all worried about bears. My father in law assured him he had NEVER seen a bear in Savoy. First hours there, bang a bear wandering down the middle of the road! (still make jokes about it to this day!) The second thing on this trip... Now were here with entire family, mom/dad and all the siblings. Saturday night about 11:30 at night the camp site next to ours. Everyone is sitting around the fire when this woman starts moaning about how great she's getting fucked, LOUD! Starts off with the low moaning and worked right up to the "fuck me, fuck me". And once again this is LOUD! This went on for a good 10 minutes. Her parents just kept acting like no one could hear this. Me and my brother in law still laugh about campsite #13!