Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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July 25, 2021 - 5:44am

#1401

unkle sam

Joined:
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I have them all

except 76, 77, 78, 69, 89 and first 90 box, Warlocks box and RFK, . The rest are all gold. E72 is my favorite, followed by, TOO, I know, but the sound quality on that release makes it a top 5 for sure, even though the song selection is limited. TTATS is a close third, what a great box that one was. I will probably order this down the road some, but after PNW, I will wait to hear it. The best box in my opinion is E72. Hands down, best price, most complete tour and just some fantastic jamming.
Hey Dire wolf, I was a sailor, so I get a bit salty sometimes, sorry but I didn't mean any disrespect.
July 25, 2021 - 4:51am

#1402

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

winner's podium

Gold: TTATS/E72
Silver: May 77/May 77 GSTL
Bronze: July 78/June 76

I know, pretty crowded up there :-)
July 25, 2021 - 12:13am

#1403

carlo13

Joined:
April 26, 2017

Al

I thank you for the 5/21/74 - 46 min. PITB reminder. It has been a while since that behemoth song was played.
July 24, 2021 - 8:45pm

#1404

alvarhanso

Joined:
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Re: Daverock and vinyl

You've recommended the 5/19/74 vinyl quite a bit, and I finally took your advice, opened it this evening and put on beginning with China> Rider, and the show is hitting me much more now with vinyl warmth, even at a lower volume due to neighbors, than it had previously. Many thanks for another reminder of something that had been sitting upon a shelf looking pretty, but sounding silent. This reinforces my decision to have ordered Light Into Ashes, because that sequence on Plangentized Normanized vinyl ought to be thrilling to listen to! I loved the sound of 5/3/72, it sounded richer than the last listen I gave it in the car, albeit in mp3.

The China has a patch I hadn't recalled, but the patches aren't bad, heard another in Weather Report Suite. But the show sounds fantastic, and I'd recommend searching for this vinyl on walmart, I saw it pop up at a low price recently, definitely worth having, especially if you didn't get the PacNW box, which I'm surprised to see several people say they passed on. Surprised because of 6/22/73 and 5/19/74 alone being in it, not to mention the 5/21/74 known for its epic Playing in the Band (also released as a Record Store Day vinyl, and which I foolishly passed on at 20 bucks not once, but twice), and to me I would just think of 6/24, 26/73, and 5/17/74 as bonuses. But then '73-74 is some of my favorite Dead. I wouldn't mind 6/22 or 6/24 being released on vinyl someday, the Bird Song, Here Comes Sunshine, and He's Gone> Truckin'> Other One> Wharf Rat of 6/22 and 6/24's Dark Star> Eyes> China Doll deserve vinyl treatment, though 6/22 would be 7 or 8 LPs depending on how they track it.

I lack the Europe '72 box and Winterland '77 and the Spring '90 boxes (though I had the The Other One prior to a wonderful swap for FW '69) and give Gold to 30 Trips and Europe '72, Silver to GSTL and PacNW '73-74, Bronze to Spring '90 TOO and Giants Stadium. Reason for my subjective rankings is the breadth musically and the supplemental material which is of lesser value to some than to me. I like the denser reading material, and bumped Giants Stadium because I like that book a lot. They also mixed the hell out of that box, it sounds phenomenal! I didn't get Spring '90 for a variety of reasons, but I lament not having it for the book that came in the box, but not a fan of the mixing and the decision not to use the 24 track mix, which they rectified for TOO. And added color prints, and other ephemera. Winterlands '73 and '74 and FW '69 I left out because it's 3-4 shows, and booklets. July '78, June '76, and May '77 are also all booklets and nothing else. Since it's a once a year splurge, I feel like the bells and whistles are part of the attraction, and not a detraction. I can see the other side, though, and for that, we do have the Dave's Picks series, which should be having an announcement in the next few days I would hope. No shipping notice for me as yet.
July 24, 2021 - 8:23pm

#1405

proudfoot

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Dylan

Hwy 61 rev
Bringing it all

So good
July 24, 2021 - 8:22pm

#1406

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

I'm sure each member and estate gets a cut

I bet they are very happy so much got recorded over the years.
July 24, 2021 - 6:58pm

#1407

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

2.6 Mil....

....I often ponder what portion of the sales go to the remaining band members. 30%? IDK.
July 24, 2021 - 4:47pm

#1408

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

No disrespect...

..but 13,000 x $200 is 2,600,000, so I think their doing alright, which is okay, if the quality and service are there...
“nothing comes for free”

😂 “that’s not really a sport”
July 24, 2021 - 3:24pm

#1409

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

I hate cuts in segues almost as much as I hate viruses....

....so I have no issues with the out of order Kiel tracks.
July 24, 2021 - 3:12pm

#1410

darkstartheoth…

Joined:
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Out of order

The second set jam basically takes all the third disc but it looks like there was enough room left over on disc two to put the final couple of songs there. They put a lot of time and money into these box sets and I can't imagine that there's a huge profit margin. Adding an additional disc would've cost more for them and the last 2 to 3 songs can be fit at the end of disc two so that's fine.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Whoops

The dreaded double post

Feb 74 mini box

Would of made sense. That’s the problem with only one box a year though.
I think they’d have no problem if the did a big un and a mini every year, but hey I’m a full on addict now ; )
One BIG box, one mini, 5 Dave’s, and another, low budget “cassette master” series, with the occasional stand alone.

There’s still at least hundreds of good shows, what are they waiting for, their market to be Dead…and I don’t mean gratefully ; )

Pink Floyd live shows released

Just read on uncut that Pink Floyd has released 10 or so live shows from 1970 to 72. Atom Heart Mother, Meddle and Obscured by Clouds covered. Awesome

Pink Floyd

I just went to the site and it didn’t mention the live shows.
But the most recent update, from yesterday, says that Pulse is coming out on BluRay 2-18-22.
Awesome, I have the DVD but have been wishing for a BluRay rerelease.
I saw the same show as on Pulse at the Pontiac Silverdome.

Edit:
Googled it and the live shows are currently only on streaming services.

In labyrinths of coral caves................

Yo! Rockers!!

Before anybody starts losing their mind over this....................

The Floyd shows just "released" on streaming sites are all widely circulated and have been for years. I should know, I have them all.............

These "new" releases are all audience recordings. Repeat---audience recordings, NOT soundboards.Not so bad for what they are, but if anybody was expecting better, sorry, no. And it's not clear that they used the best source material either. Best/worst example---the Montreux shows.

Guess they figured that if King Crimson can do it, so can we!!!

Have followed the Floyd taping/trading scene for decades. Soundboards are exceptionally rare, very little was actually recorded by the band. Alas, their best work, especially in the pre-DSOTM era, was never recorded professionally. I do have these "new" releases if anybody wants, but caveat emptor......

I say this as somebody who was very deep into Pink Floyd years before I got on the Dead bus....................

Rock on!!!

Doc
Over the mountain watching the watcher
Breaking the darkness waking the grapevine
One inch of love is one inch of shadow
Love is the shadow that ripens the wine
Set the controls for the heart of the sun

always need a little more room

"Pink Floyd's cool"

- Butthead

and a billion other crazies

Pink Floyd SBD’s

A lot was released as part of the Box a few years ago. Maybe that was most of what they had?
I was able to get all the small Boxes that make up the big Box, except for the bonus material that came with the big Box. But, all the small Boxes were only about half the price, and I didn’t really need all the bonus schwag.
I recently watched all the video from those Boxes and there is some good stuff, but a lot of the 67,68 videos are them lip syncing to the studio recordings.

10/17/72

Working my way slowly through the box, and finally just now hit disc two of the first '72 show. Whoa. The rippin' Cumberland, then the brain-melting Playin'! Then they open set two with a hot Greatest, then dial it UP a notch with a smokin' Don't Ease!

On top of this I've been listening for the first time to the shows I attended. My third, fourth, and fifth shows were 9/4-6/91, and I'll be DAMNED if they aren't REALLY HOT!

Have a Jerry Christmas, and a Happy New Weir!

Pink Floyd Early Years

I still dip into this box-I played the first cd from 1970 only last night, which starts with the band playing Atom Heart Mother without the orchestra at Montreux and ends with the same piece live at the Beeb with the full monty.

The cds are much more satisfactory than the blu ray discs for me in this box, apart form the clips from 1966-1967 with the mighty Syd. The ones from 1968, with other band members lip synching to pre recorded playbacks of Syd Barretts songs are a bit ridiculous, unfortunately. They look embarrassed while they are doing it. As indeed they should.

I wonder if these new live Pink Floyd releases are radio broadcasts. We are inundated with them in Britain.

The blu ray of Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets looks tempting. Even if they are a cover band.

which one's pink

thanks doc for the info, interesting that they would re release released live shows that are audience recordings. I also read that there was a change in the copy write laws in England and Europe and if you don't use it within 50 years, you lose it. Dylan released a bunch of stuff before the 50 year threshold was reached so I guess they just don't want their recordings going to public domain.
I have a couple of Pink Floyd shows that were released back in the 90's "Rhapsody in Pink" comes to mind. They don't sound so good. I stopped buying any of their live stuff due to the recording on that cd alone, pretty shitty.

Green is the colour of her kind......

Yo! Floydians!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong........

If memory serves me well, those shows were never offically released in the USA. They are not true "line recording broadcast over the airwaves". Can't speak to the UK details......

Pretty much all of the high quality live stuff was released on the early box set. I think there's some tiny fragments of different stuff floating around, but otherwise that's about it for now........

Back in the day, almost no bands routinely recorded live shows unless they were preparing for live album releases. So what was preserved by the Dead was a major, major gift to history---and to us also.

Rock on rockets!

Doc
Following the path as it leads towards the darkness in the north
Weary strangers' faces show their sympathy
They've seen that hope before.............

Whew

And good morning to you too Captcha. That was like 20 pictures for no apparent reason. Forgot what I was going to say.

Pink Floyd SBD

I recently got the DSOTM remaster which has a 2nd CD with a live DSOTM from Nov. 1974 Wembly.
Sounds really good compared to the AUD recordings I have.

Free games for may

Yo! Pinkies!!!

That Wembley "Dark Side show"---which had an Echoes encore----is from November 16, 1974, and was broadcast on the BBC. Echoes was later included as bonus material on the Early Years box set. Great stuff..........

Psychedelic rock on!!

Doc
When that fat old sun in the sky is falling,
Summer evening birds are calling.
Children's laughter in my ears,
The last sunlight disappears.

Child of the Moon

Psychedelic rock on indeed! If you are in any doubt - it's Keith Richards 78th birthday today.

I just got back from Spider-Man - No Way Home....

....what's going on? The Floyd? Cool.

@Daverock...

Not Just Keef's birthday but the late great Bobby Keys Birthday Anniversary too...crazy that these two share a birth date...

How is Keef still alive?

I mean...how?

Nappy rags

Yes, well said - a major omission - Bobby Keyes birthday too.

I can't think of anybody else who embodies the joys of cocking a snook better than Keith Richards.

It's Like Willie Nelson Sez

“It’s time for young people to start thinking about the world they’ll leave for me and Keith Richards," sez Willie.

Keef reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Mr Burns gets a physical and doctor tells him he has "everything": he has so many different diseases that they're all somehow in perfect balance. "So, what you're saying is, I'm invincible?" Burns replies.

Good ol' Keef. I loved him like a father, I loved him like a friend, I knew his time would shortly come, but I did not know just when.

Crow Told Me told me about Keef....

....but seriously. To piggy back Proudfoots take, I think Richards is like a rock and roll mummy or something.

Keef is a...

rock and roll zombie

or animatron

Have you ever seen an image of him without a cigarette?

Keef is a...

rock and roll zombie

or animatron

Have you ever seen an image of him without a cigarette?

Postin' double

lol

Lions beat Cardinals
Wtf
Thats incredible

My son and I have an inside joke for lameness that has an inflection that must heard not written

but anyway

"Liiunz"

Health and Safety

I don't know how he does it either. No one I know still eats shepherds pie.

Daverock...

Just don't bust the crust!

Shepherdspie

Im making one now...

shepherd's pie

Sweeney Todd had Shepherd's pie peppered with actual shepherd on top:-)

If I miss it,,,

Merry Christmas one and all.

Keith

I just got around to listening to this all---I hope KeithFan is happy---Keith is all over this, both in his relative prominence compared to other recordings, and in the number of times he is given 'lead' while Garcia lays back or disappears. Much, much Keith, and in great form.

Too All

Have a safe and enjoyable holidaze,
and a Festivus for the rest of us!

Celebrate Festivus

with the "weeds of strength" "processed" through a metal pole

Best to all

Hi all, I just wanted to wish all you grate people on this forum the best of christmases, restful holidays, and a wonderful, safe and healthy new year!

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: I really enjoy the conversations here, I learn a lot about other music to check out, and I feel like this is a place where there is interesting, informed conversation about the best band in the world, and my favorite band. Thanks, all!

Feliz Navidad to all!!!

Hope everyone here has a fine holiday whatever it is you do......now if you'll excuse me, It's just started snowing and I need to give my short ribs some love outside...

Ribs…

I think BillyTK will be right over!

I love BBQ ribs

But I'm cooking up spaghetti, and tri tips on the bbq. With lots of 1969/70 Dead & great blues music. Also lots of Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout. Merry Christmas to all the great people here on the forum.

Christmas is the day that holds all time together......

Yo! Rockers!!!!

Christmas is the spirit of giving without a thought of getting. So if anybody out there needs some 1971 Christmas joy in their stocking, you know where to find me! The excellence of a gift lies in its appropriateness rather than in its value........

Christmas to a child is the first terrible proof that to travel hopefully is better than to arrive.........

Happy and safe holidays to all, and rock on!!

Doc
Christmas is a season for kindling the fire for hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart......

well said Nitecat

and I concur, have a great weekend all.

Merry Christmas, everybody!

wherever you are....

Merry Christmas!

To MaryE, for always being there.

To all the others, who make this such an entertaining place.

Merry Christmas

Yes, Merry Christmas to one and all.
And special thanks to Marye for helping me out again when I asked for it.

Merry Marye

Thank you for all you do, Marye!

Keith Richards

Who said Keith is alive. Bela Lugosi’s wondering how he does it

Merry Christmas...

...Happy Boxing Day!
Whenever 12/26 comes rolling around, I'm really missing the end of year runs. 12/26 & 12/27 1980 on today's schedule.

Wachet auf, wachet auf

es kraeht der Hahn
Die Sonne betritt mit goldene Bahn

Phish had to cancel their NYE shows at MSG due to covid....

....but, lo and behold, they are going to play a 3 set show on NYE without an audience on their app and YouTube channel. Starts at 5:30 pm EST sharp.
Did I mention its free??
Pardon my French, but that's pretty fucking cool of the band. They remind me a lot of the Grateful Dead in that they just want to play. And appreciate their phans which is payed forward.
Oh, and it might snow in Vegas tomorrow lol.

Good music will always be recognized in the end…...

50 years ago today.....

December 31, 1971
Winterland, San Francisco, California

Set 1: Dancin' In The Streets-Mr. Charlie-Brown-Eyed Women-Beat It On Down The Line-You Win Again-Jack Straw-Sugaree-El Paso-Chinatown Shuffle-Tennessee Jed-Mexicali Blues-China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider-Next Time You See Me-Playing In The Band-Loser-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Me And My Uncle>The Other One-jam>Black Peter-Big River-The Same Thing-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Encore: Casey Jones

This is deadicated to Scott Wiseman………

Ah, shut the f*ck up for a minute. What happened to the FCC…………..?

For years the Lanum FM was the only commonly circulating copy of this show, until Charlie Miller released his fine FM and SBD remasters in 2018. Both are recommended. And while this may not be a “classic show”, it is, like many Dead New Year’s shows, a “fun show”, and it does have its moments, especially the Dancin’ opener and the fine second set. A great way to end a great year of Grateful Dead music. But was it really the end of 1971………………?

The world in which we were called to exist was an absurd world, and there was no other in which we could take refuge…….

Rock on!!

Doc
That, for me, is the only real legacy: the idea that one has left a lingering trace in people's memories…..

I went down to the depot

Well I never got there on time

I went down to the depot

I never got there on time

12.31.70

And that train is rolling down ,,,

Dave L.SD FIre up a Sugaree ; Cassidy Cold Rain & Snow triple combo. Send it out 2022

Wachet Auf.....

Proudfoot, ein neuer Tag. Beautiful!
Jeder Tag ist gleich lang, aber unterschiedlich breit.
G.

GG

I learned that song in 1972 or 73 while we were living in West Deutschland for 18 months while my Dad worked at Max Plank institute in Heidelberg. I attended a Grundschule

Thanks, Doc!

Doc, Thank you very much for your deadication to 1971. Many years ago, my collection of live Dead consisted of "Live/Dead" 2WS-1830, the 2 LP set; "self-titled" or "Skullfuck" 2WS-1835, the 2 LP set; and "Europe '72" 3WX-2668, the 3 LP set. Skullfuck seemed to be the best ticket for my entry into my understanding of the Grateful Dead and it still does. 1971 holds a special place in my heart and mind in so many different ways.
It is now the dawning hours of 2022 and "playing" the 50th-anniversary "game", 1972 comes into play and we will have many great Grateful Dead shows and that "Europe '72" 50th-anniversary thingy to commemorate. In 2011 the "Europe '72: The Complete Recordings" was issued.

Again, thanks for re-jogging my interest in '71 Dead!

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