Grateful Dead

How about 7-18-89 on DVD for those who missed it in the theater. Hell, do it for us that saw it too!

Yes this makes too much sense a complete every note box set of the Fillmore boxset 1971...2nd which i heard it's not all available source wise is the complete 1980 Fall tour with the acoustic sets...either the Madison Square run or the San Francisco Warfield run...beyond that i can't think of something where every note of is mandatory of a run...i could think some more and probably come up with a few more...i like the idea of the acid test box set.

I have asked for all the "new" songs in the past and the idea doesn't seem to meet with much enthusiasm. I understand why. Still, I believe there is enough interest from the late bloomers and others like myself who dropped away from the scene in a major way after 91 to hear the Boys at their best in the latter years. So here is yet another idea to showcase that: A box set of the complete two best shows from strong sources with best possible playing. I have some ideas. Three Rivers in 95, Chapel Hill in 93 but I don't know what the sources available are so whatever suits me just fine. I'm sure there are strong shows out there from these years that deserve to be highlighted. I hope they are and I think it would be a welcome addition to round out a lot of collections.

Spring tour 1990 the whole thing as a box set.

If my vote counts for anything, then please, please, please limit the size of releases to one show or a two or three disc compilation of an era. One of the things that always separated the Grateful Dead from other bands was the egalitarian way they treated all of their fans. By coming out with these multi-disc releases that retail for hundreds of dollars, they are creating two classes of Deadheads--those that can afford the music and those that can't--and that is not what the Grateful Dead was, or is, about. The music should be there for as many people as possible. I bought the Europe '72 box (even though I really could not afford it). And even though I felt personally burned when they finally released them as individual shows, I was encouraged by what appeared to be a return to the good old Grateful Dead egalitarianism of yester-year. For something that supplied so much spiritual juice for so many of us for so many years, it is saddening to see the music become the property of only those who have hundreds of surplus dollars laying around. I believe that the model that began with the much beloved Dick's Picks series is the one that should take precedence. The vast majority of Heads can afford a release that's $20 to $30, and we're damn glad to have them. While there is a lot in the new 1990 box set that I'd love to hear, I just can't justify dropping $200 for it all; whereas if these shows were released individually over a period of time, there is a chance I might get them all. I also have a lot of trouble with the idea of limited releases. If this is something the Dead and its affiliates have to do for economic reasons, I can accept that. But again, it seems it is creating two sets of Deadheads--those with, and those without. I think I can speak for the great majority of us here when I say that the music the Grateful Dead created transcends mere entertainment. In many respects, experiencing the Grateful Dead held certain spiritual dimensions. To deprive a fair amount of the Deadhead community our musical mana just does not seem right to me. And I'm not one of those "music should be free" fools that were so well captured in the "Festival Express" movie--I am more than willing to pay for my proverbial ticket so I can take the ride. I just feel that there is a Middle Way here that the Dead did a great job of holding to for many, many years (and should be commended for it). All I am asking is that they should stay true to the principles that guided them so well for so many years. I've bought a great deal of amazing music from the Dead organization for many years (going back to the early 90s), and I hope to continue to do so. But there may come a time when I can't afford to, depending on how things go with the releases. Please Grateful Dead family, "let there be songs to fill the air!"

yea the winterland 2/22-2/24/74 miami 6/22-6/23/74 europe 74 yea we got a dicks picks for two days but we need more!!! and the full 10/16-10/20............ a spring 73 or summer 73? run.

These are two kick-ass shows from a very unrepresented year. These two complete shows would fit on six discs. They don't need a bunch of useless crap with them -- just digi-trays, an essay about each show and high quality CDs in a nice slip case without cowboys and indians artwork. Make everybody happy and sell it for 39.99. Please? You're killing me with deluxe, souped-up $200 editions!

Hello Everyone, Brookvale Records just announced they are releasing the Dick's Picks series on VINYL!. www.BrookvaleRecords.com Full story here: http://brookvalerecords.com/the-grateful-dead-dicks-picks-vol-1-vol-2-n… I am new to this FORUM - can you guys help me spread the word?

I'll second those '80 shows mentioned a couple posts back.

now that i've digested this beast. I love it, the music is top notch and now that you exquisitely marketed the hell out of it and got your $200 bucks a pop it's time to release the rest of the shows from each stand at the going rate. Everyone here knows there wasn't a bad show that spring, by the Summer Tour they were about to self combust (RIP Brent). The last night of the stand mentality was okay but, let's have the rest of the best... I've been seeing the band since 2/4/78 and continue to see FURTHUR as well as spend my hard earned coin on the products, so Europe put me into having to work overtime hours to afford it and though it was great and the setlists were somewhat static I love it! I'd love to be able to purchase entire runs from Uptown Theater,Chicago or Spectrum, Philly. Red Rocks, Greek, Frost etc hell It would be nice to have to the option to buy any show from 1989 and where are the videos man? You guys gotta have at least a couple of spot on 92-95 shows to share!? The cover bands in that AVMT night out at the movies were fantastic, release that Alpine show with the covers project bonus disc...Let's keep talkin' about August 1972 will that movie ever get released? What the hell happened to the JERRY GARCIA BAND SHOWS??? How can you guys not want to collect all of this bread man... take my money please. Give some of that church/warfield 90-95 jGB. RANT MODE OFF NOW. Thanks for the extremely expensive offerings that I will continue to buy. Gerry

2/5-8/70 – Fillmore West;2/11-14/70 – Fillmore East (Let's be honest, Dick's Picks, Vol. 4 doesn't really do this justice); 4/4-6/71 – Manhattan Center; 4/25-29/71 – Fillmore East; 6/9-10/73 – RFK Stadium; 7/27-28/73 – Watkins Glen; 2/22-24/74 – Winterland; 6/22-23/74 – Miami; Anything from Europe '74; 10/16-20/74 (how about this ~15 disc set for October '14?); Pretty much any multi-night theater run from '76; 3/18-20/77 – Winterland; 4/25-27/77 – Capitol Theater; 12/27-31/77 – Winterland; 7/17-19/89 – Alpine Valley; 10/11-15/89 –East Rutherford (in fact, go for any run on this tour); The complete MSG '90 run, or Europe '90. Take your time, though.

Hey Gang,We are releasing Dicks Picks vol 3 and 4 on vinyl March 19th. You can pre order now at www.BrookvaleRecords.com These are from the original tapes and mastered for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman. See below for his comments. Thanks for your time. FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES! Mr Norman talks about mastering vol 3 and 4. “I was excited to get the chance to remaster the early Dick’s Picks’ releases for vinyl…they were originally mastered for CD in 1995-96, and I was looking forward to hearing the 1/4″ source tapes once again, 17 years later. What I didn’t expect was the dramatic improvement the new mastering gives to these classic releases. The original CD resolution is 44.1KHz/16bit (as is any released CD), while the mastering I am now doing for the vinyl releases is 96KHz/24bit. I’m now using a state-of-the-art analog to digital converter (Pacific Microsonics Model 2)….and I’ve probably gotten better at doing this over the years! I used the original CDs as a guide for the new mastering, but when listening to the CDs I feel like I’m listening in black and white, while the new mastering feels like I’m listening in color. It’s very exciting! A few observations: the mixes for Dick’s Picks Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 couldn’t be more different. The Pembroke Pine show (Vol.3) is quite bass strong and powerful. The Fillmore East show (2/13-14/12) on the other hand is very bright and a little bass shy. Both represent the ears and interpretations of the mixers at the time (Betty Cantor Jackson at Pembroke Pines, and Bear at the Fillmore East), and both capture the quality and excitement of these shows. I did some equalization on both shows to enhance the presentation but kept true to what the original mixers intended. As typical of all Grateful Dead shows, both these two shows are very dynamic….there’s a wide range of volume from quiet to very loud. I tried to keep the dynamics intact, with very little limiting, using limiting mainly as protection against digital overs. In choosing the songs for each side of vinyl, the goal was to be true to the flow of the show and keep the fidelity as high as possible. There is a physical limitation to the length of a vinyl side….if it gets too long there is a loss of bass and level. Ideally the sides would be no longer than 20 minutes, and for the most part that was accomplished. However there are a few sides that are longer than ideal, but because of the way the music lays out there was no way around a few longer lengths. Also because of those side length constraints, there are some songs that had to be split in two (i.e. Vol.4 Dark Star, The Other One, and Lovelight)…sorry, you’re going to have to flip the record to get the entire “good stuff”. Considering that these tapes are 40 years old (in the case of Vol. 4, Fillmore East), they sound phenomenal! There are some issues on the original recording that can’t be fixed (i.e.. L/R movement side to side in Vol. 3 Eyes of the World), but that in no way takes away from this great music.”

But the idea of flipping in the middle of a song (3X no less) is totally hack, though I do understand the limitations.

These two shows would make an excellent box set along with another show on the tour with a good source.

i need a fix...............cuz i'm goin down!!!

like yer thinkin up to 74!!! LOL!!

Listening to Classic Vinyl on my Sirius (very rare I move from the GD station) and I hear that wed morning 9 EST David Lemieux is doing a 90 min special on the GD station for the new MAY 1977 BOX SET!!! 5 complete shows (they didn't say which ones). I feel like Ed Grimley at Christmas.... I couldn't be more excited!Sure hope it wasn't just a wishful flashback :-)

Would love to see the spring 90 box set released without the fillers.wouldn't mind a rerelease like the Europe 72 box set. Had to miss out on the original box set.

I'd like to see a box of all the shows Branford Marslis did with the dead. To my memory, those were3/29/90 12/31/90 9/10/91 12/10/93 12/16/94

You pick 'em: February, March, May, October. Got enough from Nov-Dec. July/Aug ?

I am hopeless but I must say that I would love to see summer of 1990 shows released especially 7-21-90 at Tinley Park as well as the other Tinley shows and the Deer Creek shows. Also, the entire 1972-1974 era.

Spring '87 Ultra-Matrix recording's box set? Hampton March 22,23,24, 1987 Hartford March 26,27, 1987 Philadelphia March 29,30,31, 1987 Worcester April 2,3,4, 1987 East Rutherford April 6,7, 1987 Chicago April 9,10,11, 1987 This tour ripped and I know the Ultra-Matrix Cassette Master's sound Amazing!!!!! ;-) ;-) ;-)

I'd love to see a box set of the summer of '76. Ideally, it would include the Orpheum run plus Colt Park and Roosevelt Stadium. If that's too much, the Orpheum run by itself would be enough. Even better would be the whole year or the 2nd half of the year from July on.

I think a 1976 box would be great as well! But I've been listening to several '82 and '83 shows and feel those years deserve a box also. Especially since the Dead turned in some great versions of West LA Fadeaway, My Brother Esau, Throwing Stones and Hell In A Bucket...

Several people below mentioned a box set of the Orpheum Run of '76.That would be my "White Whale"! I have copies of each show but none are tremendous quality...

Some of the best PITB's ever played in November

Should be that time of the year for announcing the next box? Anyone got any hint that something is on the way?

I will echo the thoughts of Jingle Jangle... LOVE fall '72!Would make an excellent box set...

The Texas shows would be just exactly perfect...11/18/72 through 11/26/72 5 shows in all... Bird Song from that period!

How about a box set of all the "bonus discs" that have been released so far????? I have talked to a bunch of people and everyone agrees: It is great to give the bonus discs, and we always love getting them, e.g., the one with the newest Dave's Picks was great. But, we all also agree it is infuriating not to be able to get them after that. I have some, I've missed some. I want them all. I was just on Amazon a few minutes ago and a bonus disc from a Road Trips was being offered for $140 bucks. Ouch. I don't know about everybody else, but I would much rather the Band get a chunk of my money than it all going to a reseller. So, how about putting out a box set with all the bonus discs issued to this point? You could charge a fair amount for it and it would still be worth it. Plus, you already have the CDs worked up -- it would be cheap to produce. Then, in the future, you could put out another box set-- Bonus Disc Box Set Vol. 2 -- with the bonus discs issued from this point forward. Now you need to release more stuff faster so that it is not too long a wait for the future bonus discs. Or you could do with the future bonus discs what I am suggesting below for the future releases: Cheaper by subscription to begin with, then the price cranks up to a lot after that. And the Fillmore 1969 box set . . . . I missed it-- I was getting married and moving during that time and didn't even know it was being released until they were all gone. But holy cow, who WOULDN'T want that? If you are going to want one thing . . . . New ones sell for $750 on Amazon now, used ones like $440. Frankly, I already have all the shows, but that doesn't mean I don't want the box set. Not only do I want it just because, but I want to buy one so the band can get some money for their incredible music. When you do these limited releases, all you are doing is diverting money to resellers rather than the money going to the band. Generally, I try to buy everything you all put out . . . . so you will put out more. Rather than making things unavailable after limited runs, wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense to instead jack the price up? For example, you could do the Dave's Picks subscription for $150 for the year (charge at least that much--they are worth it--whole shows, great shows, great packaging and information,etc., keep up the great work!). Then, if you don't get a subscription, make the individual Dave's Picks available a couple of months after the subscription release them but sell them for something like $60 bucks each. Everyone is happy if you do it the way I suggest. Right now all you are doing is putting money in the pockets of resellers that would otherwise be going to the band. I don't like that and I don't like not being able to buy everything that has already been released, particularly in these days of CDs, when they can be easily produced again. Thanks for your consideration.

Now this IS a good idea too. If you have a SBD of the San Antonio show in the vault, please do release it! Or even just SBDs of the ones you do have. Or hell, release all the Texas shows you have in a box set. Or two box sets, early and later. Now, about the California box set . . . .

Gotta be something big for the 50th, yes? And while I do love the big box sets (Fillmore '69, Winterland '73 & '77, Europe '72, Both Spring '90s) I have to say that I couldn't afford 2 of them at the time (Europe '72 and Fillmore '69). I hope if they do something big for the 50th they at least release the individual shows later. How about picking the best show from each year that hasn't been fully released and round out the set with Wildcards. Break it up. Release #1: '65-'72 Release #2: '73-'78 Release #3: '79-'86 Release #4: '87-'95 Release #5: Wildcards Include Rio Nido '67 and some of the '87 east coast stuff: Greatest > Devil with a Blue Dress > Good Golly Miss Molly > Blue Dress & the Good Lovin' > La Bamba stuff. That was sweet. Or the Santana '87 shows. Anyway, just thought I'd put my ear to the ground on the 50th.

There were four shows, two dark stars, and you could add the San Jose show 8/20 as filler.These were some of my first shows, and this was the run where I got it - these guys were playing great stuff, and were doing different sets each night. After this run, I started going to every show in a run. Soon I started traveling to see shows in other parts of the country. Never regretted it.

How about a box set of complete shows with Multi-track masters. One from each year of the 70s. That would be phenomenal, as we love the sound to be just exactly perfect. There has to be something from '74 that sounds as good as the GD Movie Soundtrack. And are any of the other 3 shows from '75 available on multi-track? And anything with Keith and Donna from '79?

What would be really good would be a box set of Europe 90 - nearly 25 years and nothing so far. Presumably the powers that be don't believe it would shift enough units Stateside to justify the effort.

Please Please release 5/4/79 on CD!!!!!!!

I wish they'd re-release the 3 RSD lp releases on cd - Dark Star, Winterland May 30, 1971 and Live At Hampton Coliseum. The one coming out on 11-28 might make this happen. I HOPE !!!

Is it just me? Man Oh Man would I like nothing more than a good long drink of that era! Something that you can really sink your teeth into. I just can't get enough of it! I gotta believe that I'm not alone on this. To me, this is a no brainer! I just don't hear much chatter at all about a box set from this period. Does anybody else feel the way I do???

Box set of Philly Spectrum sell outs, break it out into decades. Kind of like the seasons idea, spring, summer, fall to keep boxes a little more affordable. Second the emotion of 73-74 Wall.

Passenger.08 I'm from Philly. I did not miss a Spectrum Show. I have always said that TPTB @ dead.net should take a good look at those shows for release. THOSE PHILLY SHOWS were especially awesome at THE SPECTRUM and were usually always SMOKIN' HOT! They ALWAYS played real good for Philly. Any decade. A box of SPECTRUM SHOWS would be a big money maker for sure. A Fine Suggestion Indeed!

Best of 80s gd. More Brent outside of spring 90

Focus on years not released.

Don't forget to include LOVE, the word is that BEAR recorded the opening acts this time around.................but there were no early shows................ HA HA

lONG OVERDUE.............an oversight that needs to be rectified

Did anyone else see this yet? http://truckinuptobuffalo.com/ I've been waiting for this Buffalo show on vinyl. I pre-ordered my copy and noticed the price already went up once.

Non-FE April 1971. "Mini-boxes": Manhattan Center 4/71 Felt Forum 12/71. SUNY 10/30-31-70. Boston Music Hall 4/71 and 12/71. Rock on, Doc

First, I'll second the recent Wall of Sound shows box set request as a good choice- absolutely love '74- including a full 6/18/74 and 6/23/74 in a box set, for example. Or perhaps a good '71 box. Even more so, though, I'd like to see releases from the first half of the 80s, which have been so neglected in the Dead discography- some greats include 8/28/81, 4/19/82, 9/21/82, 4/16 and 4/17/83, and 7/22/84. Plus of course a bunch of '85 shows. And speaking of '85- Spring and Summer of '85 had so many great shows- the band was crisp and energetic- 3/25, the Nassau shows, 3/31, Meriwether- 6/30/85! Great shows from later in the summer and early fall, too. And while I do love '68-'74 most of all, and '77 quite a lot, obviously the early 80s have been so underrepresented (and are my favorite Dead era after those above)- not sure if it's simply the quality of the master tapes or what. There's enough strong and unique playing from that era to merit these kinds of releases. Still, a re-release in some form of the Fillmore West 1969 Complete Recordings box set would be EXTREMELY APPRECIATED by many people here who missed getting it during the extremely brief period before it sold out- and from what I recall, it was fairly affordable by Dead box set standards. Finally, on that note- please no more $200+ box sets, unless like Europe '72 the shows can be ordered individually!!

Probably a silly question. Are the July 4.5.6 shows going to be released on cd/DVD/blue ray ?