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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • MilesM
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    I dig this
    I for one welcome this pick. It’s a unique and different show and it fills in another gap in my collection. I enjoy all these 80’s releases and would even love something from the 90’s. Maybe 93 that would be sweet. But come on Dave we seriously need some 1979. I don’t care what show. Just something from 79.
  • MilesM
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    I for one welcome this pick. It’s a unique and different show and it fills in another gap in my collection. I enjoy all these 80’s releases and would even love something from the 90’s. Maybe 93 that would be sweet. But come on Dave we seriously need some 1979. I don’t care what show. Just something from 79.
  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    how about...
    a 1969-06-21 Fillmore East to close out the year?:o)
  • rdevil
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    Got this Monday and put it on late that night. I liked the first disc enough to stay up way too late listening to the entire show. By the time Baby Blue came on I had a huge smile on my face.My sweet spot is the Godchaux era and that's mostly what I listen to but I enjoyed this show very much. The sound quality seems to vary throughout and it's not among my favorite releases but this is what the Grateful Dead was in 1983 and it's a fun listen. At this point I feel like not every release has to be a grand slam. I have so many big time shows in my collection that I welcome an occasional release like this. Kudos to whomever made the joke about Jerry's voice in Black Peter. MHammond maybe? That's some funny shit. Having said that, i really had a good time listening to disc 3. Now...how about Feline Field '73 to close out the year?
  • Seth Hollander
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    Still The Good Old Grateful Dead
    Ain't Bettyboard quality sound, but there was more to the 30 Trips than the Betty period.Jerry ain't his 60s/70s self, but I prefer Brown-Eyed Women at this tempo rather than that slow 70s style. That was the first BEW I have put in my iTunes in many years! Micky hobbles Billy pretty much, but brings his special percussion sauce to some vital moments. If this was my first year of Dave's Picks and I couldn't afford to spend crazy money on the mostly "out of print" GD back-catalog, then this release would be an unhappy event for me. As someone who has pretty much every GDM release since the mid-90s, this DaP is what I want now. I have more great '70s GDM shows than I can actually listen to. I have nearly enough 60s GDM shows... But I don't have enough 80s/90s. (My CharlieMillers/etc cover all the gaps, but there are important things about the released-by-GDM status...) There certainly should continue to be Bettyboard releases for the soundquality-heads and peak period releases for the peakonly-heads, but there is room in the release schedule for telling "the rest of the story" for the GOGD-heads. Thanks again Dave for this DaP. Sorry it bothers some people, but I hope they can tolerate more 80s/90s releases down the road. They should remember when enjoying another 73/74/77 DaP, that Seth Hollander and others are "tolerating" it (except the included "The Other One"/"Dark Star"/"Slipknot!"/"ScarletFire" - I'm LOVING that part).
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    Zuckfun, my old friend....
    ....good to hear from you. Spot on, as usual.
  • Trainwrecked
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    Ha, I guess I'm also reassessing my "loyalty" as a Dead Head. This Deal barely made it into my top 100. It's easily the worst I have. And when I sort iTunes by song I have 99 versions. Has nothing to do with the audio quality. While it is poor, I can still hear everyone but Weir, and he's inaudible half the time anyway. This is played so fast I expect to hear the chipmunks start singing the vocals, like when you play a 33 1/3 LP at 45 speed. But that tempo might be fine if they were tight, but they're not. It's just this big garbled mess where everyone is playing something different and off time. The rhythm section is in chaos. Space Brother I don't know how you do it, but shit, you definitely like it man, good for you my friend, gooood 4 U. Wang Dang Doodle was nice. Brown Eyed Women, yikes the chorus sounds awful. In fact most of the chorus vocals sound awful, just a bunch of people shouting out of sync and resulting in nothing that sounds like harmony. Jerry slurs through half the vocals. First set among the worst of Dave's Picks. Help and Slipknot! are decent, but vocals are uneven and slurred half the time in Help, so that's a bummer. Franklin's sounds good. I feel tired and pressed by the tempo, but all the other shit I complained about isn't happening too much on this one, but really, that only demonstrates they're not so far gone that they can't manage a two chord song. It hurts to hear them like this. Estimated Prophet oh boy what a travesty, I won't even get into Brent's voice, apparently it's awesome to everyone but me. The sound is getting worse on this one. It's clear as a bell but for some reason I barely recognize what they're playing. Maybe that's the muddle, mix, sorry. Phil's laying down a groove, that's nice, oops, where'd it go. Why doesn't the output of these four musicians make music???? I'm not a musician somebody help me out, is it all in the same key or whatever? I hear four guys playing on this Estimated Prophet outro but it's not making cohesive music like on Crimson White and Indigo. Eyes of the World chorus, okay, now we're sounding good. Dig what Brent's up to on the keys, this has potential!!! WHOA Noooooo!! The patch is at the sometimes the songs that we hear verse???? And I've just been utterly kicked in the balls. That is the story of Dave's Picks 27. Right when you think they've caught the old lightning, bam! Night in the ruts. I get why Dave released it. He's got lobbyists. By rights, this historical snapshot should be relegated to the Download Series, as it doesn't hold up to the quality standard of a Dave's Picks release, either sonically or performance-wise. The DaP series would certainly not have subsisted this long on 27 picks of this caliber, but that's okay for me, because the game is to keep as many people happy as possible, and this will keep the hardcore 80s fans coming back for 2019. Wait, caught the groove on Sunshine Daydream. I better cover my nuts, here it comes. This version of the band never would played their way out of San Francisco if this was the beginning. But this was not their swan song. They still had In The Dark and Mega Dead on the horizon, and they kept it together on the road for 30 uninterrupted years, God bless them.
  • Zuckfun
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    Haven’t posted in awhile but there’s nothing like an ‘83 Idaho firecracker to ignite my two cents worth on this release. So briefly- Is the recording good? Not really, no. It’s unbalanced, lacks clarity, and sounds like- it was recorded on a cassette, because it was. On the bright side of this sonic experience, this show feels far from the best of what exists in the vault from the first half of Brent’s reign. There is however almost a manic energy to the performance itself that’s exciting at times. So, for me, it’s a worthwhile release, because it’s another snapshot of history, not a modern professional recording. And here we’re given another portrait- this time from Idaho in 83. Do I think people that attended this concert heard it like this? Not by a country mile. To me it’s no small coincidence how highly regarded the Spring of ‘90 tour is, coupled with how well recorded that tour was. The recordings are our map- our snapshot of history. And this recording unfortunately paints a foggy picture at times, whose landmarks are tougher to discern through the somewhat blurred imagery. But it’s a fun night in Idaho, sounding as best as they could make it. So I enjoy it for what it is, and regret how good it could have been.
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    Critiques of DaP 27
    As someone who listens to a lot of jazz from the 1920's and 1930's, and who came to love the Dead through cassette bootlegs, I've discovered that once the music begins, your ears adjust to the fidelity of the recordings. Issues like hiss or limited dynamic range, for me, fall away quickly. This release, though not from my favorite period (I love '76 shows best) surprised me with the energy and occasional novelties of the performance. There are downright rocking songs and Jerry gives several songs a real workout (looking at you Big RxR and Deal, among others) and some fascinating moments (Bobby's slidework, the sinister Slipknot jam, the fragile & pleading LL Rain, a spanking Minglewood, and the post-Eyes jam into drums as well as Bobby's unusual riffs in the Space portion) It's a show that deserves to be blasting out of your minibus while you're parked on shakedown watching folks spin and dance by.
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    name this band stoltzfus
    I think the song you've quoted is by The Plasmatics. I think they chain-sawed a car in half while performing the song?
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I don't care who knows it: I think think Spring 91, Spring 92 and late '93 are awesome periods.
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once in a blue moon i'll put Ween's 12 Country Golden Greats on and laugh...and laugh.. particularly Fluffy the most
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I know next to nothing about Spring 92 (Deer Creek comes to mind...had a tape that played fast of that show) 6/28/92, I believe. 91 and 93 I know a bit of you like what you like. and 91 and 93 have shows that are pleasing to my ears.
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"IN Order to save his love for Grateful Dead...he had to listen to Post Brent" Terrapin Moon in Terrapin Moon: Post Brent Hero in theaters this fall.
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After 32 days in transit my copy has finally arrived. The only thing I don't like about living in Australia is how long it takes for my Dave's Picks to arrive. (And why it goes through Switzerland is beyond me.) So for the last month I've been reading all the comments and was worried this was going to be a horrible release. For many years I've notice Deadheads are some of the pickiest most critical people ever. I've only listened to the first cd but it's exactly what I'd expect from a early 80's recording. It doesn't sound as good as other releases, but that doesn't bother me. From what Dave has said about the 80's shows in the vault and from what was released on Thirty Trips this show is as good as it gets for this time period. I want everything that's released and for me everything has been an upgrade to any copy I might have or have had. Keep em coming! Now why is it when my sister sends me a package from Toledo Ohio it takes a week/two before it arrives, yet my Dave's are now taking 30 plus days? How about for next years oversea's subscriptions their be an option for expedited international shipping? And before everyone points out the hows and whys products are shipped, trust me I'm well versed in the transport/logistic world. Finally for Vguy.... A neutron walks into a bar and asks "How much for a beer?" The bartender says "For you? No charge."
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I gave this a second listen. and the second listen went from "its ok" to "this will be in high rotation" this gives me hope for 83 shows. I listened to 10/30/83 and it just about ruined me for the Dead for awhile. shitty tape. this however has many a gem: the wang dang doodle I disagree I heard better ones in the fall '91 east coast shows. loved the jack straw, They Love Each Other, Brown Eyed Women, New Mingle Wood Blues, Love the Big Railroad Blues w/ the extended jam, Looks Like Rain, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated Prophet, The Eyes Of World even if it had a cut in it I didn't notice cuz it was that good for me, Loved the Space with the jerry and weir interplay, solid Goin' Down, great Black Peter and Baby Blue. the mix it aint perfect. but I can hear everyone at least most through out which is what I look for in decent tape quality.
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You sound as though you know what you are talking about...but I would worry if they changed the shipping arrangements. For the first few years with Dave's Picks, I had to pay a lot of additional costs to the postman on delivery of the goodies. For the last few years, though, there don't seem to be any additional charges. The Pick arrives many weeks after everyone elses-I am in England-but I don't mind if it shaves a few pounds off the cost. You're proposal might still cut costs and be quicker, of course.
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I LOVE me some Ween, and Phish is okay on their best nights but this is not the Jambands board. Dont wan to sound rude but its one thing to keep bringing up off-topics like politics, music listens etc., but the constant posting of easily findable non-GD Youtube videos, setlists of old Phish shows and upcoming info about whatever is your local area for shows is getting cumbersome. Ignore my greying gripes if you want ,I'll just scroll through it all but the increase in the amount of posts the last few months has been tedious. And what? Can't even hear the tape cut in Eyes cause it was that good for you?!? WTF kinda hyperbole is that, I LIKE this show too but come on..... This board is getting more and more zealous about this release everyday. No one's been switching to a low-protein diet, buying matching tracksuits and black Nikes have they? I JUST NOW, realized...that this show...is the key to traveling to Alpha Centauri before the alien overlords come to bring us back home as sex slaves, ewwww.
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...to the Era of Irritation: "is getting cumbersome" "has been tedious" Such low emotional thresholds these days. Szell in the PObox. Red, Starless & Sailor's boxes arrived this weekend; unopened on the dining room table. Vail is lovely in Summer, but this (business) trip got to end. Notable nature encounters: two days, two trail runs, two uncomfortably large diamondbacks that brooked no reservation at expressing their dispeasure with my proximity. Not the stuff for weak sphincters or bladders, which reminds me of a thought I'd had on #27 that will have to wait as the call for 0800 conference was just issued!
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I'll shut up from here on out.
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no, it's not my personal board. but let the thing flow and keep it open, I say. I scroll past the things I am not interested in. I do notice the splice in Eyes. pretty jarring. I recall (tell us more, grampa) tapes that had horrific cuts in them. i just shrugged and kept listening. the occasional tear did happen though. "The sun will shine in my ba-"\/\/BLURGLESHUF\/\/"-northbound train" 4/7/71 has a nasty, as does 2/18/71
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@ direwulf - not so much an old guy gripe, more an aversion to trolls I suspect. Attempts to transfer the entire contents of YouTube onto this site, along with all sorts of other unrelated detritus starts to look more like the actions of a troll, or to be more precise 2 trolls. I guess it is just something we will have to learn to live with and ignore. Subtle hints have had no effect so far. Possibly they cannot read or write as they only ever seen to copy/paste. Naturally everyone is free to post what they want here, but some things just become irritating after a while.
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Guilty as charged.. Is 24 hours of harsh self-flogging penalty enough? So long as I don't have to switch to decaf.. all should be ok.
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I also like the variety of topics, but if everybody here starts posting YouTube clips of their favorite bands, this board will become a hot mess!
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9.2.83 ~ Boise 7.12.89 ~ Washington DC Smoking Hot !! Dave's Picks Disc 2 is primo stuff , desert island dead for fans of this lineup. Help on the Way Slipknot Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World great finish to Franklin's Tower with very smooth turn into Estimated Prophet question about the Jerry vocals on Help On the Way ? was there any microphone equipment issues or issues with the tape , or was it just straight flubbsville ? Dave L. send out a primo "Brokedown Palace" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQkdaHm2FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXi5QhTIHc
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I have no interest in going, but how come nobody here is discussing the recently announced D&C Mexico shows?
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if lack of money was not a factor i would go. In 2018 i saw 10 shows Dead and Co played, payed a total of $40 dollars to get in. One miracle was part of the 10. last summer 2017 i saw at least 7 Dead and Co shows, paid approximately $150 to get in to them all, no miracles. for the asking price to Mexico a couple thousand $$, some could stay 3 months in a foreign country and hit multiple locations compared to less than a week in a similar location i would bet the band throws a bone to the folks that cannot travel international and plays a few shows in Florida again after Mexico dates, late Jan or early Feb 2019
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We have never had to pay extra down under but that may have changed. It used to be anything under $1000 was GST free but as of July 1st this year, GST is required for everything regardless of price. The only stipulation is the company selling must do at least $75000 worth of business in Oz annually, otherwise GST is not required. As a result we can no longer order from amazon with an Aussie address, we must use Amazon Australia, and most eBay transactions that are outside of Oz now have an extra "import charge" estimate based on price. I'd have items delivered to my relatives in the U.S. and then shipped to me, but the price of international shipping is cost prohibitive, and the Aussie dollar is expected to drop against the greenback so it will become even less affordable soon. I'd hate to pay for shipping twice, and with subscription I'd have free shipping to a U.S. address, but then would have 4 shipping charges to Oz. (That would be nearly another subscription for shipping charges.) At any rate I've learned to be patient waiting on my Dead items. My next bout will be when the Pacific box ships. And that was ordered prior to July so am curious if it will be flagged for GST upon entry to the country.
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Import duty, GST, VAT, BTW, whatever, these various taxes on imported products are levied in most countries. What varies is the threshold above which the tax is applied. Daverock stated that recently he hasn't had to pay any such tax. Neither have I, but the reason has nothing to do with customs or tax officials. It has to do with the fact that since Warner have taken over the sales and shipping operation, they have stated a value of $1 on the customs declaration that is obligatory on international shipments. This may seem just fine - nobody has to pay import duties and taxes on Dave's Picks (most overseas customers didn't anyway due to the comparativeley low value of the series, i.e. less than $30). The problem arises with box sets and other large and high-value product. When my copy of Get Shown The Light arrived at customs with a value of $1 stated on the customs declaration, they quite correctly smelled a rat and would not release it until I had sent proof of the cost of the item. They then sent me a tax bill which had to be paid before the order could be delivered. I eventually received my order weeks after it had reached customs. I hope this situation does not repeat itself with the Pacific Northwest box, but I have made copies of the relevant documents (order, PayPal statement etc.) so I am ready if the same does occur. One can fool some of the customs officers some of the time but you cannot fool all of them all of the time. Or something like that.
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Ok, you made your point.. but the rest of us have to suffer through this GIF too. Come on man.. give is a little break??? Please??? Edit it out.. pretty please??. As for Doodies, if I watch that bob saget GIF one more time, I am liable to doodie my pants. Sorry to see you guys have to pay customs tax just to get some great music.. but I would be right there with you if I had to. GD music is like gas to me.. I hate to pay for it, but when I really need to get somewhere.. I regretfully fill up the tank and when winter hits.. I fill up the tank before the first big snow.
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"ERR"tried again "ERR" tried 10/21/83 "ERR" tried again "ERR" Cartman sez "GAHDAHMITT!!" tried Dave's Picks 3 (10/22 and 21/71) works like a charm
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lol appropriate typo in this context irritable bowel, you mean? the pink in the GIF should be enough Pepto Bismol to help you out
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Kyle HarmonTerrapin Moon Shirdeep Same person, 3 different user names. At this point, you aren’t going to convert anybody to Phish. Try for a younger crowd.
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....I was converted in 1994. I don't need daily reminders either. But it doesn't really bother me. I just scroll on by, like a steam locomotive, rolling down the track....Choo Choo
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dead heads that hate phish are starting to go the way of the dinosaur. I won't be having to hear about it for too much longer.
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You'll be hearing it for a long fucking time, son. To even begin to insinuate - if I read you correctly - that Dead fans who aren't into Fish are going the way of the dinosaur any time soon is ridiculously short-sighted. I went to a few shows. Red Rocks. McNichols. They tended to cover the Stones' "Loving Cup" at most of the shows I saw. Trey did wail his ass off. They're very talented. They stepped into the void created by Garcia's death, and gave to many a new meaning in their life. I wasn't one of those. Fare Thee Well was a beautiful moment, but it lacked spark, particularly in the lead guitar department. This has all been rehashed a thousand times. To me, "You Enjoy Myself" and "David Bowie" off the first record are the best things they ever did. They're ok. There is a lot of cultural crossover, particularly with the younger crowd between the bands, but to even consider that their legacy is remotely on the level of the Grateful Dead is ludicrous. Like what you like, but don't get so far out of line that I have to slap you, son.
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Bye Bye content deficient, empty, hate filled, trolling posts?
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and other adolescent humor....Dude, too funny, reminds me of the old standbys in these parts...so without further ado, for Vguy! 1) what do you call a snowboarder who just broke up with his girlfriend? ........HOMELESS! 2) How does a snowboarder introduce himself? ....Sorry Dude! 3) How many ski instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? ....3, one to screw in the light, and two cheer “nice turns!” Oh, and before you cupcakes get yer panties all in a bind, I skied for over 30 years, then switched to the other side for like 15, so I can shit talk like Jim Lehey about all that! ; ) Not knowledgeable enough about Phish to have a objective opinion except to say, say what you want about musicianship etc, but the one thing they can’t even begin to come close to is Mr Robert fuggin Hunter bitches! No, STFU, don’t even go there cause there is no there! Great jams, good playing, supposedly good scene, no Hunter! No disrespect, hell try and think of the GOGD without Hunter? No can do mi amigos, so put that shizzle in Jim’s irritable bowl and smoke it!
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