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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    This board is dying. What's Jerry's best album?
    WTF happened to this board? Been gone for a week and I come back to read the recent posts, and it's 15 minutes of my life i'll never get back. Minimal thoughtful commentary re: the music. Instead it's dominated by indignant era-griping, indignant Phish promotions, indignant gripes about shows outside the US, douchey trolling, direct personal swipes, indignant retaliations and politically-tinged rants. 90% waste of time and energy - why am I here??? Tempted to drop off like so many others have recently because it just doesn't seem worth the energy. How about we ALL ignore the noise and emotional jockeying and JUST focus on GD music? :O The spirit of this board is to share intelligent feedback re the DaP series and the Dead's music overall. Let's focus, people. SO - In that light.... (deep cleansing breath...) I'm curious what folks think is Jerry's best album? While i love all of them, I go crazy (good crazy) every time I hear "Compliments" (with Let it Rock, Turn on the Bright Lights, Russian Lullabye, Mississippi Moon, etc.) To me this is Jerry's most personal, intimate album. It's what "Thanks I'll Eat It Here" is to Lowell George, or "Laid Back" to Gregg Allman, or "Storyville" to Robbie Robertson (Storyville is a MUST-OWN!). It just feels like a departure from every other album - like a personal diary, doin' it just for you. Can't get enough. PS: I just realized Doc's post below! Hiya Doc! Yes, it's just getting MUCH worse, isn't it? I may join you shortly. I think, like college, it's natural to move on after 4 years and grow up. Pop in for the occasional alumni day.... There's only so much you can gleen from anything - my cup may be full.
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    good question
    all of the box sets released since the return of the Betty's uses the Plangent processing.in Dave's own words the new box set sounds like new tapes compared to the unplangented versions. the one exception has been the July 1978 box which still hasn't sold out and people think sound sort of meh. only Dave's Picks put out unplangented reels and that is because they aren't in the budget. the new ABB sonic journal is a good example of how the old GDM set has been improved by a Plangent processing of the same reels used for the GDM release.
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    Are there any two track releases besides the Winterland 1973 box set that utilized Plangeant? I've read a lot about their technology, and a lot of comments indicate that there is a very specific type of audio anomaly that it corrects best, which I'm sure everyone here has heard of, flutter and wow. From what I've read Plangent is only really necessary when you can hear the deficiencies on the master tapes. It sounds like it is almost a necessity for multitrack sources, but not so much for two track sources that already sound good to the ear. By good to the ear they indicate the absence of flutter and wow, as well as the ability to listen to it loudly without distortion or changes in pitch. In other words, it sounds like you're almost always going to need it for multitrack sourced shows, because it would not be cost-effective to listen to 16 or Four 24 tracks all the way through in a concert to inspect for audible problems, and even if you did have the time, good pitch on one track might not match the pitch of another track which also sounds good to the year. Then when you mix it you realize you have two instruments that are not playing in the same register. It would be cool to compare a soundboard of a two-track to a two track release that's gone through plangent.
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    The more things change, the more they stay the same
    LMAO Rock on!
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    Bear's Sonic Jounals
    they are a vast upgrade to what was out there. maybe it is the Plangent processing of the master reels? if they can sound that much better, imagine what the GD portion of the GD February Fillmore shows could sound like? i'd pay for a box of Fillmore 1970 GD sets to replace the Dicks Picks and Bear's choices compilation sets. nonPlangent processed reels are a remix waiting to happen, lets start here.
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    The new bear sonic journals with the ABB are golden! Thank you Bear, gotta love someone that demands from thenselves that much intention, attention and presence in whatever they do. Great recordings from the maestro himself.
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    how about back to the real problem here and the fact Dave's picks is wasting the reels on non plangent processed releases? join me in lobbying for a new series. Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series. this is an appeal to the powers that be for a new subscription series of 3 times a year of Plangent processed returned "Betty Boards" available in limited edition CDs and digital download forever. the series can start with 2/26/77 Winterland, which would be a sin not to have Plangent processed and instead used for a Dave's Pick release. as shown with previous releases from the "Bettys" the Plangent process significantly improves the sound from the tapes. by offering limited CD and unlimited digital versions it allows for maximum return of investment for the additional processing costs.
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    so you want to talk about D & C in Mexico? What a huge ripoff, I was checking the prices, really? to go to Mexico? Bad drinks, crappy weed, no inspections of public facilities. A woman I worked with back in the 00's was electrocuted in a pool in Mexico, no inspections so the wiring was faulty in the pools lighting, she dove in and ZZZZappppp, found her the following am. oh and good luck with any legal action in Mexico, forgetaboutit. Here's a question for the boys, why the hell do this in Mexico? why not Fla or Calif., or somewhere in the good old USA. To go, don't you have to get a passport? plane fare, cost of the show etc... 5 grand easy, are you fricking serious? Another stinking money grab or is it so Bobby can go on vacation? I would laugh if no one showed up. On another subject, phish, they can't hold a candle to the Dead so don't even bring them up, they just ain't that good, plain and simple. Now Fish, there's a band, I hear Barry M. is an attorney now and does a lot of pro bono work. Always loved the way he played. Speaking of Country Joe and the Fish, today is 49th anniversary of Woodstock opening day, they did an awesome set and you can see some of it in the movie. Good times (those were the days, my friends). Any old timers out there got any Woodstock stories? I have one but it would probably burn off both your ears :)
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    This thread is getting salty. Even Jim done got pissed off. I was having a sort of relevant convo with Oroborous (check your PMs my man :) about this Phish / Dead "controversy". When I started going to a lot of shows in the late 90s, I would see the Allman Brothers religiously (really Terrapin?), Phish, Widespread Panic, String Cheese Incident, moe., later on Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Tauk. These bands all have their loyal fans. What they all have in common is that practically all of those fan bases also are into the Dead. The Dead were like the common denominator of the jam band circuit. Hell they pretty much invented the jam band circuit. I got more interested in the Dead from talking to all these other fans at other shows. Go to any other jam band concert and count the folks in Dead T shirts. Some of them probably weren't born yet to have actually seen the Dead. When I was younger, I really liked Phish. I loved their zany, goofball irreverance. Now that I'm less younger than I used to be, I think I appreciate a little more reverance. Dead songs, for the most part, are earnest. They say what they mean and mean what they say. Phish songs are often ironic. They aren't intended to mean anything except as a vehicle to jam out. When I'm scrolling through here, its usually with my morning coffee, or during lunch, and I'm never going to stop reading and watch an entire concert video, of anyone. I just want to read what other people think about whatever inane topic we're on at the time. That's all. Oh and I still like, but don't love Dave's 27. It is neither the disgraceful embarrassment that some paint it as, nor the most amazing 2 1/2 hours of music ever put down on tape. That's enough for me to keep subscribing. Peace.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Of course, Live Dead D-Star is amazing, so so familiar, too, from back in the day. My favorite, though, has gotta be 8/24/72- just a couple shows before Veneta. First heard that D-Star->Dew on a dead hour so many years ago....amazing stuff. Interesting that Phil recalls that Boise show, huh? And you're right, not so much for the show as for the time period, etc. He's definitely amped for that one, as you can no doubt tell from his opening "announcement."
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2/27/69 (Live/Dead version) is etched in my soul due to the sheer number of times I've heard it in my life but it's still a little undeveloped for me to call it the best. 2/13/70 is the best Dark Star of all time. Rounding out my top 5 would be: 4/8/72 9/21/72 5/11/72 8/27/72 There are obviously several great 73-74 versions of this song (the one on Dave's Picks 9 in particular), but 72 was the peak for me when it comes to Dark Star.
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I can't imagine picking the best 68-74 DStar! 2/13/70, 5/11/72, 8/27/72? Yes! But all the others are great too! I do think DStar is THE song that epitomizes "The Grateful Dead". So, what about the 80s/90s DStars? There's: Oakland Auditorium 12/31/81 Greek Theater, Berkeley 7/13/84 (probably the weakest pre-92 DStar) Hampton 10/9/89 The big return. I dig it! Brendan Byrne 10/16/89 Miami 10/26/89 My personal fave of this period. Oakland 12/31/89 Nassau 3/29/90 Washington, D.C. 7/12/90 My second favorite. (8 with Brent, 5 released officially) NYC 9/20/90 Berlin 10/20/90 London 11/1/90 Denver 12/12/90 Denver 12/14/90 (part 2 of 12/12) Oakland 12/31/90 Greensboro 4/1/91 RFK, Washington, D.C. 6/14/91 Giants 6/17/91 Chicago 6/22/91 Denver 6/28/91 (really just a tease) Shoreline 8/16/91 Shoreline 8/17/91 (part 2 of 8/16) Richfield 9/6/91 (really just a tease) MSG, NYC 9/8/91 MSG, NYC 9/10/91 Boston Garden 9/24/91 Boston Garden 9/26/91 Oakland 10/31/91 Landover 3/9/92 Hamilton, Ontario 3/20/92 Richfield 6/8/92 Charlotte 6/18/92 Pittsburgh 6/22/92 Oakland 12/12/92 Oakland 12/16/92 Landover 3/17/93 Deer Creek 6/23/93 Philadelphia 9/13/93 MSG, NYC 9/22/93 Rosemont 3/16/94 Atlanta 3/30/94 (approx 27 with Vince, 4 released) The 92-94 DStars are all under 15 minutes (12/12/92 is 18 minutes, but in 2 parts). Even with the 80s/90s DStars, my favorites are really just ones that I am more familiar with or heard before my memory bank space for "fave DStar dates" filled up.
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Ditto
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...it's been a while...thought I would repost this one from a few years back, while on the subject of this majestic monster... 4/8/1972 - Wembly Empire Pool, London - 32 mins; intense/fast paced first leg up til about 10 mins then returns to DS theme for 1st verse; spacey post-verse til ~17 min, then pace picks up for a few minutes, followed by a brief meltdown; additional spaciness around 24 mins followed by another full meltdown; interesting groove established around 28 min that has hints of Sugar Mag (into which it segues, flawlessly). No second verse. 4/14/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 29 mins; loose first 10 mins not overly spacey; gets spacey around 11 mins; interesting groove establishes around 16 min to head into first verse w/interesting beat; heads off into intense nearly 7-minute jam inclusive of a very tight and fast Feelin Groovy jam; final 3 minutes are a meltdown. No second verse. 4/17/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 31 mins; spacey opening to about 7:30 when first DS theme emerges leading to 1st verse at 9:45. Spacey post-2nd verse tries to take off but melts further around 19 min; returns to a partial groove around 24:30 and closes out with spaceyness in the last 2 mins. No second verse. 4/24/1972 - Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf, Germany - Split by Me & My Uncle; 26 mins 1st half, 14:30 second half. Spacey opening until about 8:45 where it coalesces and falls into first DS theme around 10:15 followed shortly by 1st verse with slow, sparse notes. Spacey feedback following verse until 15:45 and then picks up into an intense, fast paced jam for just under 2 minutes before it becomes dissonant again leading to major meltdown which eventually heads into Me & My Uncle with ease. Second half: spacey reintroduction persists until about 7 mins, where Keith leads-in with some piano phrasing and then the band follows into a tight fast paced jam where Jerry plays some lines back and forth as if in conversation with himself and then maintains an intense level effortlessly segueing into Wharf Rat. No second verse. 4/29/1972 - Musikhalle, Hamburg, Denmark - 30 mins; spacey opening for ~5 mins, then enters a groove and Phil hints at the Feeling Groovy jam until it finally is joined by Jerry a minute later until about 8:00, then the floor drops out into space. DS theme appears at 14 min which leads to first verse. Spacey post-verse noodling leads to major meltdown, settling in at 22 mins with a fat, fast-paced Keith-led groove. Final 4 mins are spacey & lead to major melt #2, dropping into Sugar Mag as DS finally melts away. No second verse. 5/4/1972 - Olympia Theatre, Paris - Split by drums; 19 mins 1st half; 17:34 2nd half. Spacey opening til about 6 mins when fast paced jam kicks in until 11:20, slowing down then resurrecting the DS theme into the first verse. 4 mins of space leads into drums. Second half post-drums is very spacey until 7 mins, then kicks into overdrive with a very high energy jam leading to a phenominal Feelin Groovy Jam for several minutes before settling into the second verse. DS dissipates into the Sugar Mag from E'72. 5/7/1972 - Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, UK - 19:49 mins; decent, coherent jamming for the first several minutes that congeals nicely around 8 minutes. Bottom falls out around 10 mins and leads to some light noodling, cymbal fills and space. DS theme emerges at 14:23 and heads into 1st verse. Space fills the air through the remainder of the song until it totally breaks down into drums. No second verse. 5/11/1972 - Rotterdam Civic Hall, Netherlands - Split by drums; 13:45 mins 1st half; 30:34 mins 2nd half; Opens with a light, airy jam that persists to congeal into a decent groove as it treads in and out of spacey phrasing. This settles into a mysterious sounding jam that grows with intensity without a return to the DS theme before dissolving into drums. Emerging from drums, Phil and Billy duel for 2 minutes before Jerry joins back in with some complimentary thoughts; the DS theme appears around 5 min followed by 1st verse. A few moments of spacey feedback give way to spacey noodling that devolves into a full blow chaotic meltdown, only to emerge around 19:30 into a very nice, fast paced groove that hints at Caution and PITB jams. This eventually dissolves and a light, sparse outro ends the song as it heads off into Sugar Mag. No second verse. 5/18/1972 - Kongressaal, Muenchen, Denmark - 28:20 mins; almost 2 mins of noodling before opening notes from Phil; a loose jam ensues around the DS theme for the next several minutes and then decays. At ~9 min an interesting jam emerges, which eventually settles back into the DS theme and 1st verse around 14:30. The remainder of this DS is borderline chaos as it treads in and out of varying degrees of a meltdown until it settles into Morning Dew. No second verse. 5/23/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 30 mins; Spacey opening minutes lead to tight fast paced jam commencing around 3:30 for two minutes and then it settles into another spacey jam digressing to almost…nothing. Billy and Phil then have a small duel until ~13:30 when the rest of the band fills back into a delicate groove which grows to into a jam reminiscent of the post-Truckin' foray from E'72 until about 17 mins, when they drop into the DS theme and 1st verse. Ensuing is additional delicate spaciness that transgresses into a frenzied meltdown madness, and eventually settles into Morning Dew. No second verse. 5/25/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 34 mins, out of Wharf Rat. Strong opening with a groove almost from the beginning, no noodling around here in the first 7 minutes. Then turns very spacey until 15 mins when DS theme appears, and heads off into 1st verse. Post-verse finds a Billy, Phil, and Keith duel for several minutes. At 21 mins, Phil institutes a mellow Feeling Groovy jam, soon joined by the rest of the band until ~25 mins. Final minutes are dominated by space and then a monumental meltdown before heading off into Sugar Mag. No second verse. 4/14 and 5/4 do it for me... Hope all are Well in Deadland. Sixtus
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I like this list. Adding 10/31/71 and 2/18/71 (including the Wharf Rat and Beautiful Jam sandwich because you can't yank them out). That's one late era DS list, Seth. I question whether I have even listened to them all??? Sounds like a project.
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Daawwwwkkkk Staaar Jeeeerrrryy! So many DS’s, so little time, sigh...2/27/Live Dead has to rank on anyone’s list, no? Gotta love 4/8, hell all E72, especially that 5/11/72, and yaaasss, 8/27/72 even with pole guy! Personally I love the big spacey ones the best, but I never met one I didn’t love!! All y’all have turned me on to some nice, relatively, shorter ones also, like when you don’t have all day but you need a taste o the Star... Really like 10/19/73, hell that whole show just keeps getting better and better for me. SETH, great list. Made me realize I’ve seen besides 1/20/79; - 10/9/89 - 9/6/91 - 3/20/92 and - 6/22/92. Hey I know, not 72-74 quality, but better than a sharp stick in the eye, or a pesky troll up our arse ; ) KAYAK GUY, SIMONROB etc, thanks for the great Bonus list. Like others here I’m awaiting a Real Gone order, including V4 #3 and hoping it would have that 12/6/73... I believe I read here awhile back that these rereleased versions don’t have bonus discs, so won't hold my breath. Really jonesing for that 12/6/73 since those last ten shows of 73 are a bit grail like for me....when are we going to get the other FLA show/DS? JIM; 83. I don’t know, I’ve always really dug that 10/14/83 show, not so much the release. I know I’m extremely biased by being at the show etc. I used to think it was one of my top shows, or at least experiences at a show, (lights, sound, band, us, everyone seemed to be “on” that night) I like the Dicks well enough, but it, like 3/27/88 DL just doesn’t really transpose or come through to me. If I hadn’t been at the shows I wouldn’t know the difference. They just don’t seem to really represent to me anyway, how good these shows were.... I wonder if any one else has experienced this with any releases they attended?
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I've noticed considerable differences between shows I've attended, and the live recordings of them I've heard after the event. Not so much for the Dead, but for many bands. It might be fair to say that a live recording bears the same relationship to the show being recorded, as a photograph does to the object or person being photographed. Thinking about the few Dead shows I have seen and then heard - the recording of the one at Halloween in 1990 at Wembley actually sounded like a better show to me on tape than it did when I was there. When I was there, my mental state and position in the hall-to the far right looking down-on Bruce's side of the stage-interfered with my perception of what was going on. Bruce's piano sounded about 4 times as loud as everything else to me-but on the tape I later heard it seemed mixed in more appropriately.
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That's a great post-thanks. Also a helpful list of post 1989 Stars, form Seth.
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I’ve had that to, show memory is meh, than you hear a decent recording and your like wow.It’s funny how the experiential factors bias us so much, even so many years later..... The piano volume you mentioned was probably due to the hard stereo panning Healy used. I remember Bear always bitching about that and other unwanted side effects of going stereo versus mono point like the wall. But that’s a whole nother looong item that one can look up if interested....
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I like your spirit.. nothing wrong with standing up for what you like.. and you certainly have a valid reason. It could simply be that of the three, Boise was the last one I listened to. On a weird tangent.. not sure if there are any fans of the Freak Brothers out there.. but I just let my cat in from the sweltering heat wave we seem to be in the middle of. One of the revolving Freak Brothers jokes was if you mistreated Fat Freddie's Cat, he would poop in your shoes when you weren't looking. My cat, Bagheera, just tossed her cookies in my birks when I wasn't looking. I'm sure I did something to deserve this, perhaps dissing one show in favor of another? Karma. Certainly made me chuckle.
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Speaking of, check this version out by RW2C- vintage 99: https://www.jambase.com/article/robert-walters-20th-congress-covers-gra… Lovin’ it! Robert Walter: “This is an old recording from 1999 during pre-production for my album Money Shot. We used to play “Dark Star” at the early 20th Congress gigs. It was a good vehicle for long improvisations and actually reminded me of a lot of the jazz and funk records I was listening to. Cheme’s electric sax adds some Eddie Harris influence to it. I didn’t really know too much the Grateful Dead at the time, despite my parents putting them on quite a bit. Playing this song was a gateway for me to get into their vast and unique catalog. I included this to add a little perspective to what I’m doing now.”
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If your cat is seeking revenge, check your headphones before putting them on!
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I have just remembered a sequence in the Dead Movie where Jerry describes a similar feeling about live performance to the one I was trying to decsribe. I think he was talking about the 2/14/68 show, and he describes feeling really disappointed with the performance, and angry with Phil-even throwing him downstairs after the show-only to hear a tape of the show later, and recognise that it was "crackling with energy"-if memory serves me well.
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Daverock, perfect example! Jim, remeber what fat Freddie says, “getting drunk, theeen getting high is like pissing in the wind” Aaah, good ole Gilbert Shelton. Shakedown Street cover artist! Actually have some T-shirt’s by him that my buddy from Austin gave me. Something like “has everyone gone crazy except you and me” Have one copy of T,F.F.B. comix stashed away somewhere? Actually picked it up in a head shop in Virginia Beach during the Hampton run one year. You know, typical dumb ass northerner “it’ll be warm at the beach, it’s march!” Like it’s Fla or something lol idiots! Yeah the last story ended with some wild bonfire debauchery with everyone dancing in a circle round the fire signing “let’s all get drunk and naked, let’s all get drunk and naked, let’s all get drunk and nakeeeeed..... and lie in a great big pile”...which is reasonable ; )
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A bit belatedly, I've noticed that the Dark Star from 4/5/72 from Paris is available on vinyl. Its still possible, just about, to get a copy, so I am hovering. I wondered, if anyone has it, if it has much better-or different-sound to the one on the cd.
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Earlier I listed my top 5 dark stars, none of which appear past 1972 (though as mentioned, there are plenty of great ones in 73 and 74). I loved the late era list as well. However, I think the last "great" dark star came on 10/18/74. While there were really cool or fun or historically significant dark stars post hiatus (NYE 78, 84 encore, 89 breakout, and first one with Branford Marsalis), none of them really blow me away the way the pre-hiatus one do. As much as I love 80s-90s dead, those dark stars were always more cool than great if that makes sense. If anyone can recommend a version that might change my mind I'm all ears! Forgot to mention...loved that Europe 72 Dark Star breakdown! I'd love to see one for The Other One as well. As much as I love the dark stars from that tour, some of the versions of TOO are absolute all-timers...
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Yes, again.. ditto. How could we forget that one. I will toss in 11/8/69 for good measure, but it's the UJB, Eleven, Caution that sizzle in the Dark Star dominated suite (they come in and out of three times that night). We could probably go on with this well into the fall. There are still quite a few out there I have not even listened to yet.. Didn't somebody out there say So Many Dark Stars, So Little Time? So true. Dark Star - Played 231 times. The Other One - Played 587 times.
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if you have a 12 hour fight or insomnia this is a handy composite of 1972 Dark Stars. sort of like Greyfolded without the folds. https://archive.org/details/DarkStar_1972 Version 2: This is V2 of the original 10 hour 1972 Dark Star mix. It has the following benefits over the V1 mix: better mixing - I reviewed every cross fade and adjusted many correct order - a listener pointed out that the V1 had some out of order added missing Dark Stars - added 4 of the 5, one was very poor in quality and not included 10/23/1972. includes Verse 2 vocals 1hr 42min longer! Playlist: 3/23/1972 New York [includes Verse 1] 4/8/1972 London 4/14/1972 Copenhagen 4/17/1972 Copenhagen 4/24/1972 Dusseldorf 4/29/1972 Hamburg 5/4/1972 Paris 5/7/1972 Wigan 5/11/1972 Rotterdam 5/18/1972 Munich 5/23/1972 - London 5/25/1972 - London 7/18/1972 Jersey City 7/26/1972 Portland 8/21/1972 Berkeley 8/24/1972 Berkeley 8/27/1972 Veneta 9/10/1972 Hollywood 9/16/1972 - Boston 9/21/1972 Philadelphia 9/24/1972 - Waterbury 9/27/1972 Jersey City 10/18/1972 St. Louis not included 10/23/1972 10/26/1972 Cincinnati 10/28/1972 Cleveland 11/13/1972 Kansas City 11/19/1972 Houston 11/26/1972 San Antonio 12/11/1972 San Francisco 12/15/1972 Long Beach 7/26/1972 Portland [includes Verse 2]
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I'm ashamed to admit that I walked out of the 2-26-77 Swing Auditorium show in San Bernardino thinking "meh" as I drove back to LA...WTF was wrong with me...listening to improved boards through the years I feel like such a schmuck...I'd like to try and blame extenuating circumstances/distractions but it boils down to me being in a wrong state of mind that night I guess...Jerry should of have tossed me down some stairs....
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September 21, 1972. The Spectrum in Philly. It can be found on Dick's Picks 36. I consider it my fine China. I break it out ever so once in a while...whew! Man, does it just take me away. It has it all. Jazz, acid, blues. The first notes to me I'm being sucked though a terrific vacuum off to a place where everything is going to be strangely all right. And everything is all right. But there's a solid journey in which to partake where drabs of doubt break through. Flowing over sonic waves of fluid emotions permeating from some heavens I am gently guided back down safely one note at a time. Thanks to all have been posting their faves! Cheers all!
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I do have a favourite... but the date/venue escape me presently. It might take a minute or a month to sift through the archives, but I know how it goes and I can cue up parts of it in my head, like a jukebox. When I'm hiking in the woods, I'll play songs, silently, in my head. But is it silent, or just hearing by bypassing the ears? Many mornings I wake up with a song in my head. It's odd, but I like it. And if I don't - I change the song.
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The only CR&S->LLR I know. https://archive.org/details/gd1980-08-30.sbd.miller.110152.flac16 Set 1 Feel Like A Stranger, Peggy-O, Cassidy, Friend Of The Devil, Minglewood Blues, Cold Rain & Snow-> Looks Like Rain, Easy To Love You, Althea, Jack Straw Set 2 Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, CC Rider-> Ramble On Rose, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Black Peter-> Sugar Magnolia, E: One More Saturday Night
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Hi All! I came across this just the other day: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2017/06/dark-star-catalog-guest-post.html A while back I had a plan to try to time all of the Dark Stars. It was ambitious at best and not likely since I was going to do it on a stay-cation which ended up being cut short. I should have known that someone would have beaten me to the punch. So this link gives one of the best if only comprehensive Dark Star resources I have ever come across. It doesn’t give grades which I will agree with what some have said -that is an impossible task. Anyway this link can be used as a guide if anyone gets wild and decides to go down this path and try put a grade and/or rank on all of them.
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Thanks for posting that link. Fascinating looking at how often it was played, and how its length expanded and contracted. I couldn't pick a favourite version, but the ones I have enjoyed most this year have been the ones played in 1972. The peak years are definitely 1968-1974 for Dark Star, for me. As stated by 80sfan-the versions of "The Other One" were also phenomenal throughout 1972, too. Incredible that they played either one or the other, to such great effect, at almost all their shows throughout the year.
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Ditto on that awesome Dark Star list. That same blog is a 'Go-To' for all things GD-related....so wealthy in knowledge. Looking at the list, one thing caught my eye, early in the listing: it was somewhere between March and June of '68 that Dark Star really started to stretch out - during this brief time, it pretty much doubled in length; starting from roughly the 5-7 minute range (avg) to then up to 15 minutes and well over 10 mins subsequently. A trigger musta popped in there with an epiphany to say, hey, let's jam on this one how 'bout? The overall list is impressive. Those two mentions of '79 Dark Stars also pique my interest - I should listen even if just an aud source methinks. Happy Holiday weekend to USA folks - summer literally has gone by in a snap. Some major things changed on my end over these few short months - for the better - but still, wow it's been quick. Be well All. Sixtus
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Cool indeed. Thanks gratefulhan
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Boise pulled me on quite the enjoyable 80's tangent. I'd probably still be on it except a few of my devices are more geared to 60's and 70's.. this morning the temperature finally broke and I took advantage by taking a long bike ride. My companion was Dave's Picks 19, 1/23/1970. I had forgotten what a fiery China Rider starts that show.. and we have a cryptical, TOO, Dark Star to start what I think is the second set. It had been a while since I listened to that one. Great sound.. maybe not the best 1970 show, but some of the previously released shows that year are giants among the giants. What a nice show. I can't wait to get to disc 3, overflow songs from the next night. 1970 Cumberland Blues anyone? With all these great shows I can't help but think of the a quote from the movie History of the World Part I, "It's good to be the king."
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....I cannot stress enough that you fine people check out that Dark Star from The Family Dog i posted lower down yesterday. Listened to it twice last night and blew my mind each time. Simply dripping in acid. Incredible....
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Looking forward to tipping libations in the rust of summer's evening within the fortnite, my friend. Summer Time, come and go, my oh my! Taking suggestions for a week of luxuriously unrushed stay-cation birthday PTO. Got a bottle of magic-jack and two bucks in my pocket. I'm ready!
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Took DaP 8 out for a spin this afternoon. I forgot how well-played that show was - 3 hours of blissfully loud fun on a beautiful Friday here in the Bay Area. This pick certainly bolsters the case for more matrix releases. Mai Tai time!!
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Yes Vguy72 this is an incredible beautiful performance of Dark Star, and, moreover, the power of the original concept St Stephen - William Tell - The 11. St Stephen particularly great with wailing feedback during the instrumental break. It all comes together during the 11 intro jam, incredible synergy. Potent! Also great by the way, Dave's 10 bonus disc LA 12/11/69
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Bolo is right, that pick is a real good one, but....what about the day before? What about Gainesville? Also, if you liked 8-30-69's dark star, check out 9-1-69's.. in Louisiana of all places, great stuff.
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....I friggin LOVE it. Just listened to it again. Is that a Beautiful Jam they launch into? I believe it is. Impeccable version. These guys never fail to cause my jaw to hit the floor.edit. Checking out the 9.1.69 show now. But what's even more amazing than these Dark Stars, is that they played in SF, then NO two days later. True touring troubadours....
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HI All! I am glad you liked that link to the Dark Star guide. Sixtus is right that the whole blog (called Grateful Dead Guide) is excellent. The creator of that blog has put in some serious time to gather facts about so many things. There are lengthy posts about anything and everything- missing tapes, song debuts, show reviews, etc... Whoever the author is of that blog, I am place them right there up in terms of Grateful Dead Jedi Mastery with the likes Dick, Dave, Mr. Miller, and Voodonola among many others. Wouldn’t it be great to find out that the author of that blog is regular here? I have that tendency like many of you to learn, research, and yes organize things about the Dead. So that blog and all of the content appeals to me for many reasons. I have just begun a little project that I am hoping that if good enough I can submit to that blog as a guest poster. We’ll see if I ever get around to finishing it though. Just in case anyone needs this a link to the blog here it is: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/?m=0
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....the Dead would be a college course I would take. I would probably end up with a solid B however, because they are a tough nut to crack.I'm apparently stuck in 1969. TC makes them a totally different band. See how it is? One could break down months, let alone years. Always evolving and morphing.
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I love this 1970 release too. Keithfan put together a new track order when it first came out and made it available to people who already bought it. Goes like this: Cold Rain & Snow Me & My Uncle I'm a King Be Mason's Children Cumberland Blues China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Black Peter Hard to Handle Mama Tried Dire Wolf Good Lovin' (mixed bothers versions) The Other One Dark Star St. Stephen Lovelight Feedback And We Bid You Goodnight Dancing in the Streets I like it because it puts all the short rockers together in the "first set" area. Also gets rid of yellow dog and the maddeningly cut short Casey Jones. Highly recommend.
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I remember that reordering job KF did. The best part is it cut out the teaser licks after each song that was out of order, so it flowed so smooth. LJ, you still have a copy? My phone with it died. I bought the orig.
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"This is all that is currently available from the soundboard" CM Grateful Dead - November 29, 1980 Alligator Alley Gym - Gainesville, FL Recording Info: SBD > Multi-Gen Cassette (Maxell XLII 90) Transfer Info: Cassette (Nakamichi CR-7A) > Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.8 MHz) > KORG AudioGate 4 > Adobe Audition CC 2015 > Samplitude Pro X3 Suite > FLAC/24 (1 DVD FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller September 12, 2017 Patch Info: (FOB) Beyer M160 > Cassette Master > FLAC (shnid=132457) supplies: Truckin' (4:18 - 6:04) (8:10 - end of track) Drums (0:00 - 0:02) Good Lovin' (0:08 - end of track) Encore Break (complete track) U.S. Blues (complete track) Notes: -- Thanks to Sean Kutzko for the tape -- This is all that is currently available from the soundboard -- Thanks to Jim Wise for the patch source -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his input on the pitch correction -- This is 139321 24 bit -> 16 bit Set 2: 01 - Shakedown Street > 02 - Franklin's Tower > 03 - Estimated Prophet > 04 - He's Gone > 05 - Truckin' > 06 - Drums > 07 - Space > 08 - The Other One > 09 - Stella Blue > 10 - Good Lovin' Encore: 11 - Encore Break 12 - Casey Jones Hope there is a complete sbd of this show in the vault. If not this will never be released. Jim Wise has been re-transferring a lot of audience tapes from 80 and 81 in 24bit so I hope there can be more matrix-mixes from this era in the future.
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9/1/66 GD move to 710 Ashbury house 9/1/75 "Blues for Allah" released 9/1/77 "What a Long Strange Trip It's Been" released
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Vguy, thanks for the heads up on this Dark Star. Great one, especially the final 5 minutes. Strange, no vocals on the Eleven - reminiscent of Feb 11 at the Fillmore East.
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